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Title: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:05:00 am
Clearily I'm either the only one who got a Volume this month or the holder of the one with the golden wrapper.  Let me ping the man behind the curtain to findout more for those in the know.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 30, 2005, 11:11:00 am
I don't see the Super Secret Show listed on Tickets.com
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: thirsty moore on March 30, 2005, 11:12:00 am
Neither do I.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:12:00 am
well it's just gonna be me rocking out....
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:13:00 am
front page
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Post by: thirsty moore on March 30, 2005, 11:16:00 am
Done, thanks.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ratioci nation on March 30, 2005, 11:17:00 am
and there I was thinking it would be the Darkness   :(
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 30, 2005, 11:18:00 am
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Originally posted by econo:
  Done, thanks.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 11:25:00 am
is this the paper copy of Volume you speak of? or the email one?
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Post by: debaser on March 30, 2005, 11:26:00 am
Paper.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:27:00 am
What does it say about the music climate when Gang of Four still isn't soldout in NYC, where one would expect to find a shrine in every rehersal space to them right next to the ones for the Ramones and Joy Division.  The bands influence is just so wide spread these days, partly because there are different phases of their career and sound.  Newer bands seem to hone in on one particular Gang of Four element and stretch it to max.
 
 Whatever, it just means more room for the true believers....
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: jkeisenh on March 30, 2005, 11:29:00 am
let's just say that Gang of Four doesn't have the dance moves, costumes, or well-endowed members that modern audiences demand.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:29:00 am
well neither does Franz Ferndinad, etal who are "hott"
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:31:00 am
and everyone be sure to get on the Volume mailing list, give up that postal address, i can't be mr nice guy every month.
 
 Don't receive Volume in the mail? email list_serve@930.com with your mailing address (it's free, folks) and for the password.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 30, 2005, 11:39:00 am
Gang of Four, New York Dolls, Echo and the Bunnymen, Billy Idol. C'mon people, fucking evolve already. Enough of this dinosaur rock. It's like going to watch a golf tournament consistinf of Jack Nicklaus, Arnie Palmer, Lee Trevino, and Gary Player. Or maybe a Conners/McEnroe tennis match.
 
 Oh, and by the way, Jason Ringenberg is playing Sunday.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:41:00 am
well based on what Mr D. Slappy and others have said it's hardly dino rock, bevis...
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 30, 2005, 11:42:00 am
If I had the time, I would dig up the post where you said that the best music was made in the 1930s and 1940s.
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Gang of Four, New York Dolls, Echo and the Bunnymen, Billy Idol. C'mon people, fucking evolve already. Enough of this dinosaur rock. It's like going to watch a golf tournament consistinf of Jack Nicklaus, Arnie Palmer, Lee Trevino, and Gary Player. Or maybe a Conners/McEnroe tennis match.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bags on March 30, 2005, 11:46:00 am
Guess what, I got my first issue of Volume in the mail yesterday!!!
 
 Not that I know what secret show Kosmo speaks of...
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 11:48:00 am
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  and everyone be sure to get on the Volume mailing list, give up that postal address, i can't be mr nice guy every month.
 
 Don't receive Volume in the mail? email list_serve@930.com with your mailing address (it's free, folks) and for the password.
done.  i cant wait to be in the know!
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 30, 2005, 11:49:00 am
I stand by that statement.
 
 I also won't be making a tour of nursing homes around the country to seek out the artists who made that music in hopes that they might deliver a live performance for me.
 
   ;)  
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  If I had the time, I would dig up the post where you said that the best music was made in the 1930s and 1940s.
 
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Gang of Four, New York Dolls, Echo and the Bunnymen, Billy Idol. C'mon people, fucking evolve already. Enough of this dinosaur rock. It's like going to watch a golf tournament consistinf of Jack Nicklaus, Arnie Palmer, Lee Trevino, and Gary Player. Or maybe a Conners/McEnroe tennis match.
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Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 11:49:00 am
dont forget...J Mascis and his old band are touring this summer/fall, for some REAL Dinosaur rock!
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: markie on March 30, 2005, 11:57:00 am
Is it just me who does not really like the the super secret band?
 
 Maybe I can start a hipster backlash.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 11:58:00 am
yup
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 30, 2005, 12:01:00 pm
I don't think anyone here is traveling to Britain "seeking out" Gang of Four.  They are coming here.
 
 So, if your favorite pre-war artists could still play their music live and came to the area you wouldn't go see them because......??
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  I stand by that statement.
 
 I also won't be making a tour of nursing homes around the country to seek out the artists who made that music in hopes that they might deliver a live performance for me.
 
    ;)  
 
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 12:03:00 pm
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Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 30, 2005, 12:06:00 pm
Because they would be like 90 years old and couldn't possibly recreate the live intensity of the shows they did 70 years ago.
 
    Most, though not all, rock and roll artists just look plain silly trying to be rock stars into their 50's. Country, blues, and jazz can be a lot more forgiving of a performers age, but rock is usually a younger mans game. People on this board always babble on about such and such band had "such energy." Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I don't think anyone here is traveling to Britain "seeking out" Gang of Four.  They are coming here.
 
 So, if your favorite pre-war artists could still play their music live and came to the area you wouldn't go see them because......??
 
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  I stand by that statement.
 
 I also won't be making a tour of nursing homes around the country to seek out the artists who made that music in hopes that they might deliver a live performance for me.
 
     ;)    
 
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Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 30, 2005, 12:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 Most, though not all, rock and roll artists just look plain silly trying to be rock stars into their 50's. Country, blues, and jazz can be a lot more forgiving of a performers age, but rock is usually a younger mans game. People on this board always babble on about such and such band had "such energy." Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
I don't think Gang of Four were ever "rock stars."
 
 I've seen a few "elderly" shows that were excellent.  Paul Weller and Mission of Burma spring to mind.  Even the Sex Pistols show was quite entertaining in its campiness.  
 
 Perhaps you take this all too seriously?
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2005, 12:26:00 pm
Plus Bryan Ferry, David Bowie,that one in the band from Liverpool, John Mellencamp, Springsteen, Fogerty, Neil Young... I will give you that Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones are a bit to much to handle.  And I could give a Rats ass about Clapton...
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 30, 2005, 12:27:00 pm
And some people still even go to shows by the Rolling Stones, the Eagles, and Motley Crue.
 
 Perhaps you take me too seriously on this thread. My comments were meant to be light satire....though with an element of personal truth.
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 Most, though not all, rock and roll artists just look plain silly trying to be rock stars into their 50's. Country, blues, and jazz can be a lot more forgiving of a performers age, but rock is usually a younger mans game. People on this board always babble on about such and such band had "such energy." Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
I don't think Gang of Four were ever "rock stars."
 
 I've seen a few "elderly" shows that were excellent.  Paul Weller and Mission of Burma spring to mind.  Even the Sex Pistols show was quite entertaining in its campiness.  
 
 Perhaps you take this all too seriously? [/b]
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Relaxer on March 30, 2005, 12:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 Most, though not all, rock and roll artists just look plain silly trying to be rock stars into their 50's. Country, blues, and jazz can be a lot more forgiving of a performers age, but rock is usually a younger mans game. People on this board always babble on about such and such band had "such energy." Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
I don't think Gang of Four were ever "rock stars."
 
 I've seen a few "elderly" shows that were excellent.  Paul Weller and Mission of Burma spring to mind.  Even the Sex Pistols show was quite entertaining in its campiness.  
 
 Perhaps you take this all too seriously? [/b]
Just to add, the original line-up of X was so good last year. The Buzzcocks also were a crowd favorite. So the old boys can still rock it up.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 12:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
   My comments were meant to be light satire..
 
when in doubt, go with that story. energy does not equal good.  some band stand there and rock out, some run around and suck, who knows!
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 12:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
   Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
Gang of Four are in thier 50s?
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bombay Chutney on March 30, 2005, 12:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  And some people still even go to shows by the Rolling Stones
That would be me.  Rag on the Stones all you want - but they can still put on a great show.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 30, 2005, 01:31:00 pm
They were university students in 1977. That certainly puts them close to 50.
 
 Formed in 1977 by Leeds University students Jon King (vocals), Andy Gill (guitar), Dave Allen (bass), and Hugo Burnham (drums), Gang of Four (along with the Fall, Mekons, and Liliput) produced some of the most exhilarating and lasting music of the early English post-punk era of 1978-1983
 
 
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
   Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
Gang of Four are in thier 50s? [/b]
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bags on March 30, 2005, 06:24:00 pm
Okay, speaking of Volume, did anyone try today's presale?  I can't find the band listed in tickets.com ANYWHERE...
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ratioci nation on March 30, 2005, 06:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Okay, speaking of Volume, did anyone try today's presale?  I can't find the band listed in tickets.com ANYWHERE...
did you look on the front page? (like kosmo said)  ;)
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bags on March 30, 2005, 06:58:00 pm
ratio, check your pms...[Kosmo's box is full]
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bags on March 30, 2005, 07:07:00 pm
Pollard is the bomb.  Yeah, I'm secret show bound.   ;)    I'm completely dense, but with supervision can function in the world outside.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: lily1 on March 30, 2005, 10:29:00 pm
i am cursed with each every super secret sale and presale. either i get the passcode over email and then my computer freezes up, or, its the passcode that's in the mail only, which, despite signing up yet AGAIN for the volume mailing, never seems to arrive in mail box.
 
 so please. someone take heart and send me on this information? pretty please?
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: ggw on March 31, 2005, 04:27:00 pm
Gang Of Four Bolsters 'Entertainment'
 
 Out of print since 1997, Gang Of Four's seminal 1979 debut album "Entertainment!" will be reissued on May 17 via Rhino. The original 12-song track list has been bolstered with the four-track "Yellow" EP and four additional previously unreleased recordings. "Entertainment!" has also been re-pressed on 180 gram vinyl for a May 10 release.
 
 Among the new additions, perhaps of most interest are alternate versions of album tracks "Contract" and "Guns Before Butter" and live versions of the unrecorded "Blood Free" and a cover of the Velvet Underground's "Sweet Jane."
 
 Originally released in 1980, the "Yellow" EP is highlighted by the angry, brittle "Outside the Trains Don't Run on Time" and "He'd Send in the Army." The release also features the songs "It's Her Factory" and "Armalite Rifle."
 
 Although never a commercial success, "Entertainment!" has influenced scores of bands in the past 25 years, particularly the current crop of up-and-coming British rock acts like Franz Ferdinand and the Futureheads.
 
 Since 1995, the album has sold 12,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, but since 2000, an import edition has shifted an additional 14,000 units.
 
 As previously reported, Gang Of Four's original lineup reunited earlier this year for the first time in more than 20 years. The group will begin a three-week North American tour May 1 at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival in Indio, Calif.
 
 Guitarist Andy Gill recently told the BBC that Gang Of Four was working on an album featuring a disc with new recordings of old songs plus a collection of remixes, but a spokesperson could not confirm details of the project at deadline.
 
 http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000863099 (http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000863099)
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2005, 01:04:00 am
I have Volume and the password, but where's the link to the presale? Or am I too late?
 
 Thanks,
 Ed
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Yank on April 01, 2005, 02:00:00 am
Light satire or ignorance?  You insist on making comments about things you know nothing about.  Everyone on this board (and their mothers) know you don't like indie/alternative music but that doesn't keep you from acting like a complete knob!  Granted, you'd be a very lonely boy if alt-country was the only subject being discussed.  I can't wait to read your 'satirical retort'.
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  And some people still even go to shows by the Rolling Stones, the Eagles, and Motley Crue.
 
 Perhaps you take me too seriously on this thread. My comments were meant to be light satire....though with an element of personal truth.
 
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 Most, though not all, rock and roll artists just look plain silly trying to be rock stars into their 50's. Country, blues, and jazz can be a lot more forgiving of a performers age, but rock is usually a younger mans game. People on this board always babble on about such and such band had "such energy." Typically people in their 50's and 60's don't have that kind of energy.
 
I don't think Gang of Four were ever "rock stars."
 
 I've seen a few "elderly" shows that were excellent.  Paul Weller and Mission of Burma spring to mind.  Even the Sex Pistols show was quite entertaining in its campiness.  
 
 Perhaps you take this all too seriously? [/b]
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Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Bartelby on April 01, 2005, 02:06:00 am
I worship at the feet of the board:  So why are they touring? I'm going to this show at your suggestion: No new album to promote? So what's up?  ...maybe a bad divorce; kids in need of private schooling; why do you still adore 'em?
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Arthwys on April 01, 2005, 02:34:00 am
Indeed...I get the password only to discover the link is no longer on the front page.  What to do from here?
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2005, 03:03:00 am
I guess we wait for the regular sale.  :(
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 01, 2005, 05:50:00 am
The presale was schedule to run March 30th 10am to 10pm, although I think the link was still up in the morning on the 31st.  Don't if it was active then or not.  It would appear this be an easy ticket to get selling as there was no instant presale sellout, and tickets were still available on wed for the NYC shows.  
 
 Why is the band touring... Well it's a reuniting of the orginial lineu for one.  Several current bands are citing Gang of Four as influences.  Franz Ferndinand, Bloc Party, etc.  There is a bit of Gang of Four lurking in LCD Soundsystem.  The Red Hot Chili Peppers has always sung the praises of the band.  More politically then the Clash, the spastic guitar rocked by funk inspired basslines set them apart from other post punk bands.
Title: Re: Talk about your Super Secret Shows
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