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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2005, 03:21:00 pm
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has anyone heard definitely who's headlining on this tour? my initial reaction would be Mercury Rev, but someone told me they thought it to be Doves......thats absurd, but reading some articles, most mention mostly Doves and then M Rev at the end......or maybe they both play for 90 minutes or something?
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i'd really like to know this also...i'm only interested in mercury rev but i'm not going to buy tix if they're only playing for 30 minutes.
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I'm not sure how much time each band will get on stage, but Doves are definitely headlining and Mercury Rev is opening.
From Mercury Rev's official website:
Mercury Rev have announced they will embark upon an extensive North American tour that coincides with the US release of their new album The Secret Migration. Following their appearance at the Coachella Festival on 30 April, the band will be touring as special guests of Doves throughout May,
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fuck it, i'll pass. they should tour sometime by themselves later then. how weak. 3 mediocre albums and they tour SUPPORTING the best band ever to hail from Buffalo???
i dont think so.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
the best band ever to hail from Buffalo???
Better than the Goo Goo Dolls?
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Better than Ani DiFranco?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fuck it, i'll pass. they should tour sometime by themselves later then. how weak. 3 mediocre albums and they tour SUPPORTING the best band ever to hail from Buffalo???
i dont think so.
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yes and hell yes.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
fuck it, i'll pass. they should tour sometime by themselves later then. how weak. 3 mediocre albums and they tour SUPPORTING the best band ever to hail from Buffalo???
i dont think so.
your message was a bit confusing but i agree that the line-up should be reversed...when's the last time mercury rev even came around these parts?? i mentioned on another thread that this would be the second time i bought tickets for the doves only to see the opener (last time was with MMJ at the 9:30 a couple of years ago). how can such a crap band pull such good supporting acts??
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
yes and hell yes.
But certainly not better than Rick James?
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Originally posted by joz:
your message was a bit confusing but i agree that the line-up should be reversed...when's the last time mercury rev even came around these parts?? i mentioned on another thread that this would be the second time i bought tickets for the doves only to see the opener (last time was with MMJ at the 9:30 a couple of years ago). how can such a crap band pull such good supporting acts??
they were outdone by the opener when they played with Elbow as well
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Originally posted by joz:
i dont think so.
your message was a bit confusing but i agree that the line-up should be reversed...when's the last time mercury rev even came around these parts?? i mentioned on another thread that this would be the second time i bought tickets for the doves only to see the opener (last time was with MMJ at the 9:30 a couple of years ago). how can such a crap band pull such good supporting acts?? [/QB][/QUOTE]
hang on a sec...Doves a crap band??? this isn't like the Ash/Bravery fiasco by any means...Doves are undoubtedly one of the most progressive and talented bands out there.. Radiohead aside, the most musically adventurous band coming out of Britain.. they may not be yer cup of tea..but crap they are not..
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How do you define "most progressive"? What are they doing that is so progressive?
Originally posted by Fico:
Originally posted by joz:
i dont think so.
your message was a bit confusing but i agree that the line-up should be reversed...when's the last time mercury rev even came around these parts?? i mentioned on another thread that this would be the second time i bought tickets for the doves only to see the opener (last time was with MMJ at the 9:30 a couple of years ago). how can such a crap band pull such good supporting acts?? [/b]
hang on a sec...Doves a crap band??? this isn't like the Ash/Bravery fiasco by any means...Doves are undoubtedly one of the most progressive and talented bands out there.. Radiohead aside, the most musically adventurous band coming out of Britain.. they may not be yer cup of tea..but crap they are not.. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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or 10 lb cock?
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Originally posted by pip:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
yes and hell yes.
But certainly not better than Rick James? [/b]
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Originally posted by joz:
your message was a bit confusing but i agree that the line-up should be reversed...
Doves, with 3 mediocre albums. really, thats harsh, Doves is a good band, but certainly hasnt earned the right to play after (or longer than) the Rev.
perhaps if both bands are playing the same amount of time, i will go. still, its a monday in DC.....hmmmmmmmmm.
problem is, Mercury Rev never come around here.
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somehow i feel the flaming lips are laughing their asses off about it all. mercury rev should of hung it up after releasing that poop ship, "all is dream."
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Originally posted by walkonby:
somehow i feel the flaming lips are laughing their asses off about it all. mercury rev should of hung it up after releasing that poop ship, "all is dream."
have you heard thier new one? Mercury Rev owes nothing to the Flaming Lips.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by walkonby:
somehow i feel the flaming lips are laughing their asses off about it all. mercury rev should of hung it up after releasing that poop ship, "all is dream."
have you heard thier new one? Mercury Rev owes nothing to the Flaming Lips. [/b]
owes nothing? would there even be a mercury rev if the lips never existed? i have not heard the new one by mercury, because i keep hearing not so good things about it . . . but why in the hell should i listen to others? i'm going to go out and buy that thing today. man, if it sucks like "all is dream," i'm going to be pissed. i love the rev. i worshipped them at one point, so when i heard that they were playing, i didn't care if they were the opener or the opener opener, but now i question is it worth going to see a show where i've never really listened to the opener at all. should i give doves a chance? i went to see sonic youth and wilco at dar, and stayed around for wilco to give them a chance, and man did they ever dissapoint. sorry to those people who love wilco. i don't like the pixies either, so stone me to death for jehovah.
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If anything I would say flaming lips owe mercury rev
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Originally posted by walkonby:
owes nothing? would there even be a mercury rev if the lips never existed?
i dont really think its like the flaming lips came out all the much before Mercury Rev. maybe 2 or 3 years, but i wouldnt say that the Flaming Lips were some big influential band in 1990. (what were they even playing in 1985!?)
well, either way, last time i saw the Flaming Lips they put on some big dumb show with stupid stage antics and so many props, they only played 4 songs. weak.
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from allmusic -
Not so much a band as a long, strange trip, the chaotic avant pop pranksters Mercury Rev formed in Buffalo, NY, in the late '80s. Originally comprised of vocalist David Baker, vocalist/silver pickup guitarist Jonathan Donahue, guitar shaper/single-exhaust clarinetist Grasshopper (born Sean Mackowiak), rooster-tail bass flutist Suzanne Thorpe, bass explorer Dave Fridmann, and mojo stick drummer Jimy Chambers, the sextet -- always rife with personality conflicts -- interacted with one another infrequently, and their first recordings evolved simply as a means of creating soundtracks for the members' experimental student films as well as for Howard Nelson's Lite-Brite and Marco Fogg's Sugardaddy Sea.
Encouraged to further their music by academic mentor Tony Conrad -- a minimalist composer and multimedia artist who had performed with John Cale, La Monte Young, and Faust -- the loosely connected aggregate dubbed Mercury Rev (a name whose inspiration was variously attributed to an imaginary Russian ballet dancer, a sharp rise in temperature, or a revved-up auto) began to emerge, and eventually the group recorded a demo onto a reel of 35mm magnetic film. At the same time, Donahue was working as a concert promoter and scheduled a Butthole Surfers gig; after the show, he befriended the support act, Oklahoma's likeminded Flaming Lips, and soon joined the tour as a guitar technician. Ultimately, Donahue -- under the alias "Dingus" -- became the Lips' lead guitarist, and with them recorded 1990's In a Priest Driven Ambulance, an album produced by Fridmann.
With Mercury Rev effectively in limbo and its members scattered across the country, their demo tape somehow made its way to the British offices of the Rough Trade label, which contacted Baker about signing the group. Soon, the band convened to record their debut, Yerself Is Steam, an LP cut at the same time Donahue and Fridmann were also working on the Flaming Lips' major-label bow, Hit to Death in the Future Head.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by walkonby:
owes nothing? would there even be a mercury rev if the lips never existed?
i dont really think its like the flaming lips came out all the much before Mercury Rev. maybe 2 or 3 years, but i wouldnt say that the Flaming Lips were some big influential band in 1990. (what were they even playing in 1985!?)
well, either way, last time i saw the Flaming Lips they put on some big dumb show with stupid stage antics and so many props, they only played 4 songs. weak. [/b]
so, you were at coachella too?? don't forget that one of the four songs was "happy birthday" to beck and melissa ribisi...bunk.
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i do agree that wayne might be, and that's a huge "MIGHT BE" getting in over his head with the popularity of the lips. god, not another mick j.!!!! only the music will tell. the new album this summer should break 'em or make 'em even more. am i'm not 100%, but i think the lips might have started in pre-eighty-five, but i'll have to consult my yoshima blow up doll.
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Originally posted by ratioci nation:
If anything I would say flaming lips owe mercury rev
I'l second that opinion.To me the debt of gratitude is three-fold. First MR should thank Sony for signing them and re-issuing Yerself is Steam,jumpstarting a band in virtual limbo. The second being one owed to Donahue by the Flaming Lips,for coming aboard and recording arguably the Lips best albums In a Priest Driven Ambulance and Hit to Death in The Future Head.MR should also thank Dean Wareham for Car Wash Hair,the single that propelled them to exposure the likes they'd never seen.
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Originally posted by ratioci nation:
at the same time Donahue and Fridmann were also working on the Flaming Lips' major-label bow, Hit to Death in the Future Head. [/b]
so Donahue was in both bands???? interesting!
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whats interesting is that if you look up the Flaming Lips on allmusic, Mercury Rev is listed in the "See also" category. but when looking up Mercury Rev, the lips are "Similar Artists"
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Originally posted by walkonby:
i went to see sonic youth and wilco at dar, and stayed around for wilco to give them a chance, and man did they ever dissapoint.
A poor performance from which to base your opinion of the band.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i went to see sonic youth and wilco at dar, and stayed around for wilco to give them a chance, and man did they ever dissapoint.
A poor performance from which to base your opinion of the band. [/b]
:roll:
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
whats interesting is that if you look up the Flaming Lips on allmusic, Mercury Rev is listed in the "See also" category. but when looking up Mercury Rev, the lips are "Similar Artists"
wow, that is interesting.
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What's with the rolly-eyes?
If walkonby doesn't like Wilco, that's okay by me. I'm just pointing out that the DAR show was an atypical Wilco show.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i went to see sonic youth and wilco at dar, and stayed around for wilco to give them a chance, and man did they ever dissapoint.
A poor performance from which to base your opinion of the band. [/b]
:roll: [/b]
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
What's with the rolly-eyes?
If walkonby doesn't like Wilco, that's okay by me. I'm just pointing out that the DAR show was an atypical Wilco show.
sorry, i always roll my eyes when the thread turns to Wilco. :eek:
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it's not that i don't like wilco. that dar show was the only time i've heard them or seen them play. i wasn't impressed, and i have this horrible time of giving bands a "one chance experience," before i cast them to the gutter. i know i shouldn't do that. help me obi-one, you're my only hope. i never would of fell in love with everything lou barlow touches, if i wouldn't have given him another chance after first listening to folk implosion.
so tell me . . . what wilco album, or live whatever should i try to find and listen to, to perhaps sway me toward this thing called wilco.
and with the pixies, i just don't understand. i down right worship on hands and knees, the breeders and of cource, the amps, and i even like frankie black, but something about the pixies turns me cold. weird.
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For Wilco, try their Being There album.
Pixies had one great album called Doolittle, and another decent one called Surfer Rosa (which had a fantastic cover photo), but the rest of their stuff, save a song here or there, was crap.
Originally posted by walkonby:
it's not that i don't like wilco. that dar show was the only time i've heard them or seen them play. i wasn't impressed, and i have this horrible time of giving bands a "one chance experience," before i cast them to the gutter. i know i shouldn't do that. help me obi-one, you're my only hope. i never would of fell in love with everything lou barlow touches, if i wouldn't have given him another chance after first listening to folk implosion.
so tell me . . . what wilco album, or live whatever should i try to find and listen to, to perhaps sway me toward this thing called wilco.
and with the pixies, i just don't understand. i down right worship on hands and knees, the breeders and of cource, the amps, and i even like frankie black, but something about the pixies turns me cold. weird.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
For Wilco, try their Being There album.
Pixies had one great album called Doolittle, and another decent one called Surfer Rosa (which had a fantastic cover photo), but the rest of their stuff, save a song here or there, was crap.
i thought went to see the Pixies one time? something about a blue haired girl???
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Yes, on the Doolittle tour. Before their inevitable decline.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
For Wilco, try their Being There album.
Pixies had one great album called Doolittle, and another decent one called Surfer Rosa (which had a fantastic cover photo), but the rest of their stuff, save a song here or there, was crap.
i thought went to see the Pixies one time? something about a blue haired girl??? [/b]
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Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is still my favorite...as for the Pixies I'd go for the greatist hits...
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Yes, on the Doolittle tour. Before their inevitable decline.
inevitable because you saw them?
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Inevitable because they reached their creative peak with Doolittle, and there was no way they were ever going to top it. They were just bound to get fat, bald, and bitchy with one another.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Yes, on the Doolittle tour. Before their inevitable decline.
inevitable because you saw them? [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Inevitable because they reached their creative peak with Doolittle, and there was no way they were ever going to top it. They were just bound to get fat, bald, and bitchy with one another.
like an old married couple? ugh, how terrible...
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oh god, i think i started another pixies debacle.
tanks for the wilco info. now if someone can tell me where the best place to park for dar is, besides that "always full" parking deck, i'd be set. i hate trying to scour for a place to park for a show there, than any other dc locale. i'd rather try to park for a mci show. i know someone mentioned it on here before, where the best place is in some thread, a while back, but i can't find it. maybe some clues? you can be sneaky if there's no need to just come right out and say it.
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you have to take a right i think
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industrial? will nin be playing?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
oh god, i think i started another pixies debacle.
tanks for the wilco info. now if someone can tell me where the best place to park for dar is, besides that "always full" parking deck, i'd be set. i hate trying to scour for a place to park for a show there, than any other dc locale. i'd rather try to park for a mci show. i know someone mentioned it on here before, where the best place is in some thread, a while back, but i can't find it. maybe some clues? you can be sneaky if there's no need to just come right out and say it.
the parking situation is the least sh*tty thing about dar. it's by far the crappiest live venue i've ever been to. as for the wilco/sonic youth show there, it was the worst wilco performance i've seen to date (i've seen them 10+ times in lots of different venues and have never been disappointed)