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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sweetcell on November 07, 2006, 01:05:00 pm
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before y'all get excited - this is post-Gabriel Genesis. yeay, another classic rock dinosaur tour.
Genesis regroups for tour after 15-year break
LONDON, England (AP) -- Members of the rock group Genesis are reuniting for their first tour in 15 years.
Phil Collins, 55, Mike Rutherford, 56, and Tony Banks, 56, said they planned to kick off a 20-date stadium tour of Europe next June.
The "Turn it on Again" tour -- named for one of their hits -- begins in Helsinki, Finland, on June 11 and ends with a free concert in front of the Colosseum in Rome on July 14.
A series of U.S. dates will follow, the band said.
Genesis was founded in the mid-1960s by Rutherford, Banks, Anthony Phillips and singer Peter Gabriel, who left the group in 1975 and was replaced on vocals by drummer Collins.
They became one of the biggest bands of the 1970s and 80s, with hits such as "Follow You, Follow Me," "That's All" and "Invisible Touch."
The band last toured in 1991, and Collins quit the band to go solo in 1996.
Announcing the tour Tuesday, Collins -- whose solo career has netted him a fortune -- said the reunion was not motivated by money.
"I think we are all loaded enough not to worry about where the next million or two is coming from," he said.
"I just felt now was the right time to have a go at it."
Banks said the tour would give fans the chance to hear a side of the band that went beyond their hits.
"Genesis has another side to it, a more complex area of music," he said.
"One side gets slightly more attention than the other. We are trying to reacquaint people. Genesis is not particularly a group mentioned very much these days and we want to remind people we did do a lot of things."
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/07/genesis.reunion.ap/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/07/genesis.reunion.ap/index.html)
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anyone check out "The Musical Box" at State Theater last month? I was gonna but forgot about it. It's a tribute band that recreates the early Genesis tours
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I think Musical Box is also playing at Ram's Head (or played recently).
I admit to being a fan of early Genesis (essentially anything up to and including Wind and Wuthering). They weathered the loss of Gabriel in decent fashion (Trick of the Tail had brilliant songwriting) but I think the loss of Steve Hackett turned them into essentially a Phil Collins backup band.
Their time has long gone, regardless of what the band's lineup would be. I'd consider seeing the show for old time's sake but only if Hackett and/or Gabriel were touring. Just the trio...I don't think so.
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i can't wait to go see Genesis with my dad!
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Fuck it. I'm there. I ain't gonna front, I fuck with Phil Collins. Plus Genesis got a nice lil' catalog. Their shit pumps faithfully out of the speakers every time I go to my doctor/dentist's office. :p
P.S. Say what you want, "Jesus He Knows Me" is pop music GENIUS. Yeah. I said it. This time I ain't joking . . . .
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
They weathered the loss of Gabriel in decent fashion (Trick of the Tail had brilliant songwriting) but I think the loss of Steve Hackett turned them into essentially a Phil Collins backup band.
funny how the article doesn't mention hackett at all...
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I don't know what is the worst...Genesis with P. Gabriel, Genesis with P. Collins, P. Gabriel's solo stuff, or P. Collins solo stuff. It's all pretty fucking wretched. Right up there on the worst music of all time list.
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Ugh. This is NOT what the world needs.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I don't know what is the worst...Genesis with P. Gabriel, Genesis with P. Collins, P. Gabriel's solo stuff, or P. Collins solo stuff. It's all pretty fucking wretched. Right up there on the worst music of all time list.
wow, i can't believe that i'm taking WLSLM's belly-aching seriously (really, does anyone?), but if i had to rank them from best to worse:
Genesis with P. Gabriel
P. Gabriel's solo stuff
Genesis with P. Collins
P. Collins solo stuff.
i saw gabriel in concert at the Montreal forum in '91or '92 and it remains one of the best concerts i've ever been to. the stage production was incredible, all the monitors were suspended in the air (this was before in-ear) and all musicians were either wireless or on wheeled risers - so the band moved from one end of the rink-long stage to the other. the props were amazing, like the shape that started rising out of the floor and turn into peter's face (which he was laying flat on top of while singing). the crowd was nuts - the the energy level was so high he had to come out for a second encore and play "Beko" to calm the place down.
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If I wanted "stage production", I'd see a Broadway play, not a rock concert.
And I believe it's "Biko", not Beko".
;)
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I don't know what is the worst...Genesis with P. Gabriel, Genesis with P. Collins, P. Gabriel's solo stuff, or P. Collins solo stuff. It's all pretty fucking wretched. Right up there on the worst music of all time list.
wow, i can't believe that i'm taking WLSLM's belly-aching seriously (really, does anyone?), but if i had to rank them from best to worse:
Genesis with P. Gabriel
P. Gabriel's solo stuff
Genesis with P. Collins
P. Collins solo stuff.
i saw gabriel in concert at the Montreal forum in '91or '92 and it remains one of the best concerts i've ever been to. the stage production was incredible, all the monitors were suspended in the air (this was before in-ear) and all musicians were either wireless or on wheeled risers - so the band moved from one end of the rink-long stage to the other. the props were amazing, like the shape that started rising out of the floor and turn into peter's face (which he was laying flat on top of while singing). the crowd was nuts - the the energy level was so high he had to come out for a second encore and play "Beko" to calm the place down. [/b]
Sidenote: "Digging In The Dirt" is a hot ass song as well. And I also, once in a blue fuckin' moon, will turn up "Sledgehammer" loud as fuck when there are no witnesses around. I found last year when one of my ladyfriends pointed it out to me that it's a pretty nasty song. Not Prince nasty, but subliminal nasty . . .
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I still think this is going to be an excellent show! I'm very excited. I've got the entire Genesis catalog :) Most of which I bought on cassette that has now been replaced.
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Like the dinosaurs, dinosaur rock was meant to stay dead...
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Even money says one of these Genesis enthusiast is really Weasel from 94.7 the Arrow.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Even money says one of these Genesis enthusiast is really Weasel from 94.7 the Arrow.
It's me...
I've got a radio in my finger...
MindCage
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
If I wanted "stage production", I'd see a Broadway play, not a rock concert.
absolutely, i hear you brother! when i go to see a big act for big bucks, i expect dudes to stand perfectly still and perform only music. really, who cares about lights, projections, story-telling, props, dancers... gimme corpses with guitars every time. there is no way that stage production can add to a live music show.
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Sorry, I choose not to spend "big bucks" on concerts. There are European vacations to be taken.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
If I wanted "stage production", I'd see a Broadway play, not a rock concert.
absolutely, i hear you brother! when i go to see a big act for big bucks, i expect dudes to stand perfectly still and perform only music. really, who cares about lights, projections, story-telling, props, dancers... gimme corpses with guitars every time. there is no way that stage production can add to a live music show. [/b]
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
If I wanted "stage production", I'd see a Broadway play, not a rock concert.
absolutely, i hear you brother! when i go to see a big act for big bucks, i expect dudes to stand perfectly still and perform only music. really, who cares about lights, projections, story-telling, props, dancers... gimme corpses with guitars every time. there is no way that stage production can add to a live music show. [/b]
you would have loved early Jesus and Mary Chain shows!
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Given your sarcasm, perhaps you should check out Garth Brooks or Cher the next time they come to town.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
If I wanted "stage production", I'd see a Broadway play, not a rock concert.
absolutely, i hear you brother! when i go to see a big act for big bucks, i expect dudes to stand perfectly still and perform only music. really, who cares about lights, projections, story-telling, props, dancers... gimme corpses with guitars every time. there is no way that stage production can add to a live music show. [/b]
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Sorry, I choose not to spend "big bucks" on concerts. There are European vacations to be taken.
ok rusty. . .
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UPDATE: now looks like Gabriel will be joining them, for at least one date in Portugal. From Wikipedia:
After so much speculation regarding a reunion, a press conference, held on 7th November 2006, by Banks, Collins and Rutherford announced an upcoming tour in 2007. This announcement comes as the band are about to celebrate 40 years in the music business.
The statement goes on to say that the rough setlist of songs will date back as far as 1973. This will include some longer instrumental passages, the "double drums" and well-known pop hits. There are no plans to perform the hard-core fan favourite "Supper's Ready" or any material from the last studio album "Calling All Stations". A European tour (with more dates to be confirmed) is set for June and July 2007 with a 20-date American tour in the pipeline. The tour will include Daryl Stuermer on additional guitars and bass, and Chester Thompson on drums. There are no future plans in terms of new studio material but the possibility of a live CD / DVD of the reunion tour could become a reality.
Also with this, details were given out regarding the Genesis SACD (Super Audio Compact Disc) remasters in three batches throughout 2007. They include 14 Genesis albums from Trespass through to Calling All Stations in SACD/DVD double disc formats which feature new 5.1 and Stereo mixes.
March 2007 : A Trick Of The Tail, Wind & Wuthering, â?¦And Then There Were Threeâ?¦, Duke and Abacab.
June/July 2007 : Genesis, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance and Calling All Stations.
Late 2007/Early 2008: Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
Peter Gabriel-era Reunion
According to a link posted on the Genesis official forum, Peter Gabriel will join Banks, Collins & Rutherford on stage on 7-7-07 in Lisbon, Portugal. This makes sense due to Gabriel's previous statements that he could not re-unite with the band due to prior commitments that would keep him busy for up to 6 months.
so, WLSLM, now you can combine next year's euro vacation with some Genesis worshiping :)
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Thanks, I'd certainly love to go to Portugal in 2007, but I think we'll have bigger things going on...
Originally posted by sweetcell:
UPDATE: now looks like Gabriel will be joining them, for at least one date in Portugal. From Wikipedia:
After so much speculation regarding a reunion, a press conference, held on 7th November 2006, by Banks, Collins and Rutherford announced an upcoming tour in 2007. This announcement comes as the band are about to celebrate 40 years in the music business.
The statement goes on to say that the rough setlist of songs will date back as far as 1973. This will include some longer instrumental passages, the "double drums" and well-known pop hits. There are no plans to perform the hard-core fan favourite "Supper's Ready" or any material from the last studio album "Calling All Stations". A European tour (with more dates to be confirmed) is set for June and July 2007 with a 20-date American tour in the pipeline. The tour will include Daryl Stuermer on additional guitars and bass, and Chester Thompson on drums. There are no future plans in terms of new studio material but the possibility of a live CD / DVD of the reunion tour could become a reality.
Also with this, details were given out regarding the Genesis SACD (Super Audio Compact Disc) remasters in three batches throughout 2007. They include 14 Genesis albums from Trespass through to Calling All Stations in SACD/DVD double disc formats which feature new 5.1 and Stereo mixes.
March 2007 : A Trick Of The Tail, Wind & Wuthering, â?¦And Then There Were Threeâ?¦, Duke and Abacab.
June/July 2007 : Genesis, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance and Calling All Stations.
Late 2007/Early 2008: Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
Peter Gabriel-era Reunion
According to a link posted on the Genesis official forum, Peter Gabriel will join Banks, Collins & Rutherford on stage on 7-7-07 in Lisbon, Portugal. This makes sense due to Gabriel's previous statements that he could not re-unite with the band due to prior commitments that would keep him busy for up to 6 months.
so, WLSLM, now you can combine next year's euro vacation with some Genesis worshiping :) [/b]
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Originally posted by delancie:
i can't wait to go see Genesis with my dad!
i can't wait to go see Genesis with yer grandma!
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Just what I needed......a band of menopausal "soft rock" stars that will be charging $150.00 a ticket to hear them sift thru their awesome catalog of top 40 hits from years gone by, that many couples that I hated years ago used to listen to with much frequency....I'm sorry...PASS!!
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i'm old enough to have gone see genesis back in the day.
y'all don't know WTF you're talking about.
Invisible Touch was a half good, half crap album. Everything beyond it is lame. BUT, what came before it was, and remains, amazing. Albums like three, abacab, duke, the self-titled genesis. They don't play second home by the sea on wash-fm. tony banks is a master. those arrangements are closer to YES than they are to pop.
in concert, they packed stadiums because they ROCKED. the light show was amazing, the performance, moving. phil would sometimes stay behind the drums, sometimes come out, they toured with chester thompson to help on drums and he R O C K E D.
the soccer moms and lite-FM crowd would not have enjoyed those shows. If that is what they're going to re-create, then go listen to those albums, see why they are classics, and pray that phil, mike, and tony will give you today what they STILL put out there in 1986.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Sorry, I choose not to spend "big bucks" on concerts. There are European vacations to be taken.
ok rusty. . . [/b]
I shouldn't have laughed at work so hard after reading that short response. Thanks. :)