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Title: APW Festival
Post by: ggw on February 21, 2008, 04:18:00 pm
Speculated line-up
 
 August 8th
 Headliner: Bjork
 Sub-headliner: The Strokes
 Others: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Broken Social Scene, The Rapture
 
 August 9th
 Headliner: The Flaming Lips
 Sub-headliner: Sonic Youth
 Others: My Bloody Valentine, Portishead, Mogwai
 
 August 10th
 Headliner: Radiohead
 Sub-headliner: Sigur Ros
 Others: Bright Eyes, Mars Volta, LCD Soundsystem
 
 Source (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/02/all_signs_point_to_tough_compe_1.html)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 04:25:00 pm
Well since Radiohead is confirmed as the headliner on 8/8 and 8/9, clearly false.
 
 Rumours that are THAT top loaded are obviously pulled out of someone's rear.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: lbcardoni on February 21, 2008, 04:28:00 pm
The Flaming Lips as a headliner supported by My Bloody Valentine...really?
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 04:30:00 pm
that would be an amazing line-up - among the best i've ever seen - but it does indeed smack of wishful thinking.  
 
 IMO, that list is an all-star line-up of bands that have mainstream pull yet also have indie/underground cred (or remnants thereof).  more power to goldenvoice if they can actually pull that off.  would make coachella east 1000% better than coachella west!
 
 who knows, maybe those "radiohead headlines two days" rumours are false and RH will play their second NYC date somewhere in the city (hopefully not during the festival).
 
 can't wait to see what the confirmed line up is... and what VFest replies with.  best outcome we could hope for: VFest is moved to another weekend, ideally in september.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 05:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Parkers are dead:
  The Flaming Lips as a headliner supported by My Bloody Valentine...really?
Yeah, I guess I don't see how Flaming Lips or Sonic Youth are bigger then the MBV or Portishead reunions.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: ggw on February 21, 2008, 05:30:00 pm
MBV had one seminal album.  Portishead are a niche band.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 05:31:00 pm
really?  i think that the lips and SY have more mainstream drawing power than MBV and PH.  although their reunions are big news, they've been out of the limelight for some time.  not many youngins will be flocking to see them, as they haven't heard of them... and, unfortunately, flocking is what festival organizers need.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 21, 2008, 05:40:00 pm
I'd bet either the Lips or Sonic Youth have both sold more albums in the US than MBV and Portishead combined.
 
 
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   
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Originally posted by The Parkers are dead:
  The Flaming Lips as a headliner supported by My Bloody Valentine...really?
Yeah, I guess I don't see how Flaming Lips or Sonic Youth are bigger then the MBV or Portishead reunions. [/b]
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 05:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
  really?  i think that the lips and SY have more mainstream drawing power than MBV and PH.  although their reunions are big news, they've been out of the limelight for some time.  not many youngins will be flocking to see them, as they haven't heard of them... and, unfortunately, flocking is what festival organizers need.
I guess I missed a bunch of youngins a-flockin' last time I saw Sonic Youth and the Lips.
 
 Didn't we all agree that Portishead was too big for 930 at this point? That Merriweather was more likely? When was the last time the Lips or Sonic Youth played Merriweather? I think the Lips/SY have more consistant drawing power in America but I think PH/MBV's first shows in the US in a decade are a one-time bigger draw. Just me tho.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 21, 2008, 05:52:00 pm
I agree that Portishead is Merriweather worthy...as an opening act, like Modest Mouse.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 07:05:00 pm
Lineup out. Other then Radiohead... massively unimpressive.
   
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Congratulations, All Points West festival! You've got an ace up your sleeves, so to speak, what with your pair of Radioheads and, now, a duo of stories in Pitchfork news within the same 24 hour period! Where can you go from here? Why, into big announcement mode? We'll join you.
 
 The All Points West Festival-- August 8-10 in Jersey City's Liberty State Park, put on by the folks who bring you your Coachella year in and year out-- has announced its initial lineup, and boy howdy, it (almost) makes a person wanna spend a long weekend in New Jersey!
 
 Apart from Radiohead and Sunday headliner Jack Johnson, we've got Animal Collective, Cat Power, the New Pornographers, Girl Talk, the Roots, Underworld, the Go! Team, Metric, CSS, Andrew Bird, Black Kids, Chromeo, Amadou & Mariam, Rogue Wave, Mates of State, Juana Molina, the Black Angels, Jason Isbell, Neil Halstead, Rodrigo y Gabriela, Youssou N'Dour, Kings of Leon, the Felice Brothers, Sia, Duffy, Little Brother, Nicole Atkins, Michael Franti & Spearhead, K'Naan, Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, Alberta Cross, the Virgins, Forro in the Dark and Your Vegas all making the trip.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: lukiedookie89 on February 21, 2008, 07:22:00 pm
So is this a camping-type dealy?
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 07:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by lukas:
  So is this a camping-type dealy?
I don't believe so.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 07:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
  Lineup out. Other then Radiohead... massively unimpressive.
wow... knocked the wind out of my sails.  mostly due to the hype raised earlier in this thread - my bad.  to be fair, i'd be excited (in varying degrees) to see Animal Collective, the New Pornos, Girl Talk, the Roots, Underworld, Metric, Chromeo, and Rodrigo y Gabriela.  not bad, but not 3 days worth
 of excitement.  and jack jonhson?  really?  apparently i need to tune in to maintream music more often, 'cause i was only vaguely aware of who is was... and now he's headlining both coachellas.  weird.
 
   
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Originally posted by lukas:
  So is this a camping-type dealy?
nope, plan on hotels.  if you're looking to save $, stay out of manhatten and look inland at anything near a  NJ Transit rail station (http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/Rail_System_Map.pdf)  - LSP is within walking distance from the PATH train, which connects to NJ Transit.  there are cheapies around newark airport, although that part of jersey is especially ugly.  if you get something in jersey city or hoboken, you can even take the  Hudson Bergen Light Rail (http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/LightRail/sf_lr_hblr_map.pdf) that run right to LSP.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: serpent boy on February 21, 2008, 07:44:00 pm
Really not too impressive. It looks like I'll be at Virgin Festival.
 
 I might have to drive up to All Points West to pull a Borat on Nicole Atkins and Chan Marshall, though.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Cash is King on February 21, 2008, 07:47:00 pm
Everybody in charge of Virgin Fest would have to die, and then their replacements die at the funeral, in order for V-Fest to not top this.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 07:48:00 pm
If they do single day passes, I'd show up Friday for the Radiohead set maybe, but I can't imagine VFest not being much better then this (Radiohead aside).
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: serpent boy on February 21, 2008, 07:49:00 pm
Hey Seth,
 Please bring us Cat Power, too. Thanks!
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Vas Deferens on February 21, 2008, 08:28:00 pm
They are really off...were they bored OR not enough "music news" to report?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Speculated line-up
 
 August 8th
 Headliner: Bjork
 Sub-headliner: The Strokes
 Others: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Broken Social Scene, The Rapture
 
 August 9th
 Headliner: The Flaming Lips
 Sub-headliner: Sonic Youth
 Others: My Bloody Valentine, Portishead, Mogwai
 
 August 10th
 Headliner: Radiohead
 Sub-headliner: Sigur Ros
 Others: Bright Eyes, Mars Volta, LCD Soundsystem
 
 Source (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/02/all_signs_point_to_tough_compe_1.html)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 08:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  They are really off...were they bored OR not enough "music news" to report?
 
Hey, buddy! You try to come up with a VFest prediction that gets 7% of its bands correct. It's harder then it looks!
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 08:53:00 pm
further details/confirmation/embarrassment, from  brooklynvegan.com (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/02/all_points_west_1.html):
 
   
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The ALL POINTS WEST MUSIC & ARTS FESTIVAL LINE-UP (as of 2/21) is as follows: Radiohead, Jack Johnson, Underworld, Kings of Leon, Rodrigo y Gabriela, Cat Power, The Roots, The New Pornographers, Youssou N'Dour, Animal Collective, Andrew Bird, Michael Franti & Spearhead, Metric, CSS, Girl Talk, Chromeo, The Go! Team, Amadou & Mariam, The Black Angels, Sia, The Felice Brothers, K'Naan, Jason Isbell, Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, Alberta Cross, The Virgins, Black Kids, Mates of State, Duffy, Forro in the Dark, Nicole Atkins, Juana Molina, Little Brother, Rogue Wave, Neil Halstead and Your Vegas.
 
 Tickets for ALL POINTS WEST go on sale Friday, February 29 at 12 Noon (ET) via www.ticketmaster.com (http://www.ticketmaster.com) only. Single day passes are $89 and three-day passes are $258. A portion of the event's proceeds will benefit "Friends of Liberty State Park."
 
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Vas Deferens on February 21, 2008, 09:09:00 pm
Here's the lineup for each day!
 
 I'm there Friday and Saturday...
 
  http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup (http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: thingsfallapart on February 21, 2008, 09:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Cash is King:
  Everybody in charge of Virgin Fest would have to die, and then their replacements die at the funeral, in order for V-Fest to not top this.
Cash is King, meet Radiohead.  Radiohead, meet Cash is King.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 10:12:00 pm
looks like there will be 3 stages.
 
 the "getting there - by train" page states The Newark Penn Station stop directly connects to NJ Transit's Light Rail, which will bring concert goers directly to the festival grounds. i'm pretty sure this is wrong.  from newark penn, one can take the PATH train to grove street and it's walkable from there  (10-15 minutes) - but that's not "directly to festival grounds".  alternately you have to transfer again to the Hudson Bergen Light Rail line and pay another fare.  again, not direct.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: nkotb on February 21, 2008, 11:04:00 pm
Meh.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  Here's the lineup for each day!
 
 I'm there Friday and Saturday...
 
   http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup (http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 21, 2008, 11:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  Here's the lineup for each day!
 
 I'm there Friday and Saturday...
 
   http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup (http://www.apwfestival.com/event/lineup)
Is it worth $89 + the drive to see Radiohead, Underworld, and the Go! Team on Friday... hmmm...
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2008, 11:27:00 pm
i'll probably buy one-days for friday and saturday too, and be ready to sell them off should VFest bring the goods.  good thing that VFest is only sat + sun, 'cause friday's underworld --> RH would be pretty damn tough to beat.
 
 breakdown by day and by stage:
 
 Friday:
 
 Blue Commet Stage:
 Radiohead
 Underworld
 Spearhead
 The New Pornographers
 The Go! Team
 
 Bullet Stage:
 Girl Talk
 CSS
 Forro in the Dark
 Juana Molina
 Little Brother
 
 Queen of the Valley Stage:
 Andrew Bird
 Mates of State
 Nicole Atkins
 
 
 Saturday
 
 Blue Commet Stage:
 Radiohead
 Kings of Leon
 Animal Collective
 Metric
 Chromeo
 The Black Angels
 
 Bullet Stage:
 The Roots
 The Virgins
 The Felice Brothers
 Alberta Cross
 
 Queen of the Valley Stage:
 Sia
 K'Naan
 Duffy
 Your Vegas
 
 
 Sunday
 
 Blue Commet Stage:
 Jack Johnson
 Cat Power
 Rodrigo y Gabriela
 Amadou & Mariam
 
 Bullet Stage:
 Youssou N'Dour
 Black Kids
 Jason Isbell
 
 Queen of the Valley Stage:
 Grace Potter and the Nocturnals
 Rogue Wave
 Neil Halstead
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: PigIron on February 22, 2008, 12:19:00 am
These are bands doing the festival circuit.  Virgin Fest is right on top of this one as far as the dates go.  The lineups are going to be similar.  Radiohead is great, but I'll wait until I see the VFest lineup.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: lomein on February 22, 2008, 01:06:00 am
$258 for this?
 I hope they're planning on some heavy additions.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Mobius on February 22, 2008, 11:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Speculated line-up
 
 August 8th
 Headliner: Bjork
 Sub-headliner: The Strokes
 Others: Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Broken Social Scene, The Rapture
 
 August 9th
 Headliner: The Flaming Lips
 Sub-headliner: Sonic Youth
 Others: My Bloody Valentine, Portishead, Mogwai
 
 August 10th
 Headliner: Radiohead
 Sub-headliner: Sigur Ros
 Others: Bright Eyes, Mars Volta, LCD Soundsystem
 
 Source (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/02/all_signs_point_to_tough_compe_1.html)
Feel free to make this a starting point for the Virgin lineup
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Sage 703 on February 22, 2008, 11:36:00 am
I'm probably in for Friday and Saturday, barring some huge surprises from Lollapalooza or V Fest.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 22, 2008, 11:51:00 am
callat, i assume you're throwing lolla into the mix b/c of cost considerations, or because you can only handle one festival per month? (old man...  :) )
 
 lolla is the preceding weekend, 1-3 Aug.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 22, 2008, 11:58:00 am
The lineups on the second two stages are much better than the headlining stages. Too bad they don't sell discounted tickets for people who don't give a shit about the bands whose presence drives up the cost of the tickets...
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2008, 12:07:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  The lineups on the second two stages are much better than the headlining stages. Too bad they don't sell discounted tickets for people who don't give a shit about the bands whose presence drives up the cost of the tickets...
oh dang nabbit I'm agreeing with Charlie on this one... also preferably presented at some time other than the middle of summer...
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: nkotb on February 22, 2008, 12:10:00 pm
That would be great if you could buy a time-allotment for tickets, or just prove your too cool for school to like the headliner.  I've probably go to a lot more of these things...
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Too bad they don't sell discounted tickets for people who don't give a shit about the bands whose presence drives up the cost of the tickets...
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Sage 703 on February 22, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  callat, i assume you're throwing lolla into the mix b/c of cost considerations, or because you can only handle one festival per month? (old man...   :)  )
 
 lolla is the preceding weekend, 1-3 Aug.
Yeah, mostly just having to pick and choose.  I can't really do two big weekends out of town in the same month.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
re: jack johnson he once played iota... apparently it was a zoo because he on the verge of breaking to the masses at that point.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Driveway on February 24, 2008, 05:09:00 pm
If Rogue Wave plays at V-Fest, I'll be thrilled!
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: xneverwherex on February 25, 2008, 06:15:00 pm
damn! $258 for this. I live here and wouldnt have to worry about finding a place to stay but that still seems ridiculous! now im just hoping radiohead plays somewhere in the city and ill be happy.
 
 i would so love to go to this because of the convenience but just trying to justify the cost on that ticket is impossible.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 25, 2008, 06:46:00 pm
xNWx - if you buy single-day passes for friday and saturday (skip sunday's jack-johnson-o-thon), that brings it down to $200 with all the fees.  dunno if that's any less scary for ya.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by lomein:
  $258 for this?
 I hope they're planning on some heavy additions.
supposedly not.  they might add a band or two to each day, but the idea is to have all performers do full sets - which means they can't pack too much more into the lineup.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: xneverwherex on February 27, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  xNWx - if you buy single-day passes for friday and saturday (skip sunday's jack-johnson-o-thon), that brings it down to $200 with all the fees.  dunno if that's any less scary for ya.
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by lomein:
  $258 for this?
 I hope they're planning on some heavy additions.
supposedly not.  they might add a band or two to each day, but the idea is to have all performers do full sets - which means they can't pack too much more into the lineup. [/b]
$200 is just as scary. I mean at that rate I might as well get the 3 days for the extra $58. In other news, Id gladly pay $40-$50 to see Verve 2 nights! I think I'll be passing altogether on APW, but there is a ferry going from NYC directly there which does make it a bit more convenient and a little more tempting  :)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Christine Moritz on February 28, 2008, 11:29:00 am
Pardon my ignorance, but have the dates for V Fest been confirmed, and if so, what are they?
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Christine Moritz on February 28, 2008, 11:34:00 am
(never mind - posted a duplicate by mistake)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Sage 703 on February 28, 2008, 12:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
   
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Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
 Pardon my ignorance, but have the dates for V Fest been confirmed, and if so, what are they?
[/b]
Yes - they are the same weekend.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Christine Moritz on February 28, 2008, 12:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by callat703:
 Yes - they are the same weekend.
Ahhh... so folks are trying to figure out if an artist who plays one night at APW might conceivably be at V Fest the next, etc.?
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
that, and/or which one to choose.  can't be two places at once  :)
 
 personally, i'm definitely doing APW on friday and am strongly considering saturday.  so depending on the VFest line-up, i could be at pimlico sat + sun, sun only, or not at all.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: RonniStar on February 28, 2008, 04:19:00 pm
Boy, this changes everything. Virgin Mobile Festival is on the same weekend as APW festival, yet they don't have lineup already. What acts will Virgin Fest, known as Virgin Mobile Fest, get this year. It shaping up to be an interesting summer concert season.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 28, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
Do the bands get paid THAT much more for playing a full set as opposed to showing up and doing a shorter set, or is limiting the bands and having them play a full set yet another way for greedy promoters to make more money?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  xNWx - if you buy single-day passes for friday and saturday (skip sunday's jack-johnson-o-thon), that brings it down to $200 with all the fees.  dunno if that's any less scary for ya.
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by lomein:
  $258 for this?
 I hope they're planning on some heavy additions.
supposedly not.  they might add a band or two to each day, but the idea is to have all performers do full sets - which means they can't pack too much more into the lineup. [/b]
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by RonniStar:
 Virgin Mobile Festival is on the same weekend as APW festival, yet they don't have lineup already.
i'm wondering if this isn't forcing IMP's hand to reveal their line-up earlier than they wanted to... they should do it soon, before too many people start committing to APW (like buying tickets, which go on sale tomorrow).
 
 kinda crazy that it's february, yet i'm planning for festivals in *august*.  i only started planning for coachella 4 months beforehand, and that included arranging flights and hotels.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Christine Moritz on February 28, 2008, 06:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
 
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kinda crazy that it's february, yet i'm planning for festivals in *august*.  i only started planning for coachella 4 months beforehand, and that included arranging flights and hotels. [/b]
On a tangential note... do you think it's too late now to start planning for Coachella?  Or would I still have time?
 
 I am thinking that since there's no guarantee that Portishead is going to do a U.S. tour, I should either try to catch them in London on April 17 (tickets currently going for $120 -- ouch!), or go to Coachella.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2008, 07:57:00 pm
FYI, there was a fanclub presale today and one-day tickets for friday and saturday went relatively quickly.  anyone thinking of single-day passes probably should grab them sooner rather than later (on sale is this saturday).  i doubt they'll be gone right away, but they won't last too long (i.e. a few days, methinks).  sucks that we don't have the VFest line-up, so no way to gauge the alternative/competition.
 
     
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Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
 On a tangential note... do you think it's too late now to start planning for Coachella?  Or would I still have time?
coachella now is still doable, espcially since this year isn't a sell-out yet and probably won't be.  PM me if you'd like a hotel recommendation, this place didn't advertize online and actually still had vacancy last year when we arrived for the festival (all hotels in indio will be spendy, fyi - "festival prices").  airfare should still be reasonable - fly into ontario airport if you can, cheap and closest major airport.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: xneverwherex on March 27, 2009, 02:53:48 pm
Just got this ..

(http://www.1019rxp.com/Pics/Newsletter/apwannounce5.jpg)
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 27, 2009, 02:57:14 pm
It is rumoured that Bjork and Coldplay will be playing APW.
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 27, 2009, 02:57:25 pm
matt pinfield is still alive?!
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 27, 2009, 03:19:45 pm
It is rumoured that Bjork and Coldplay will be playing APW.

and Tom Waits.

although isnt he always rumoured to be playing these festivals
Title: Re: APW Festival
Post by: Borealis on July 28, 2009, 01:17:16 pm
anyone is going to this festival in NYC from DC?

i can offer a free ride
and just may be you can offer a place to stay?

Line - UP

http://www.apwfestival.com/lineup/