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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on March 31, 2005, 03:43:00 pm
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i love the place. the staff rule, unless it's widespread panic, and then they lose all control of everything, and the sound is worse than what other places in the area? i can only think of a handful of venues that the sound might be better: birch, warner, wolftrap, and maybe state theatre, but the state is way pushing it, and i can't even begin to count how many places other than dar did the sound totally suck.
if dar sucks so much, why do acts that have played there before keep popping back up there, time and time again?
soon kali dar rule the world.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
if dar sucks so much, why do acts that have played there before keep popping back up there, time and time again?
Because DAR fills a niche for size that no other venue fills. Next step up -- Patriot Center. EEeeewwwwwww.
You named a lot of places with better sound there, and I don't know why you left 9:30 off. Black Cat is more sketcy -- sometimes great, sometimes sucky... But we're talking medium-large size venues, anyway. And you named most around town (town being D.C.) as having better sound than DAR.
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because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
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you're right. nine thirty does have a killer sound system, and yes, the black cat can be spotty at times, but i just can't understand the hatred of it. everybody always seems to go back on the, "oh the sound sucks there" excuse, and i know that's not true, from having seen so many shows there. good lord people, the almighty pixies played on it's stage!! i beleive it's because the place has the word constitution in it and because it's in d.c. you just know how people in washington always want to fuck up the constitution. :D
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
and...
because the staff has been rude to me numerous times
because the atm was broken and there was a no readmittance rule so that i could go and get money out at another atm and return to buy overpriced beers to guzzle in the atmosphere-less beer garden that reminds me of the common-area in my college dorm
because you can't stand up during shows
because bands really don't sound that great there (the sound of most bands is completely swallowed up and is especially drowned out if you're high on the balcony)
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Originally posted by joz:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
and...
because the staff has been rude to me numerous times
because the atm was broken and there was a no readmittance rule so that i could go and get money out at another atm and return to buy overpriced beers to guzzle in the atmosphere-less beer garden that reminds me of the common-area in my college dorm
because you can't stand up during shows
because bands really don't sound that great there (the sound of most bands is completely swallowed up and is especially drowned out if you're high on the balcony) [/b]
the staff of anyplace can be rude. especially if one deserves it.
you obviously been to the wrong shows at dar, because we all stand and party like there is no tommorrow at the shows we go to. we don't need no education.
and quit sitting so high up and maybe you can hear. the same rule applies at patriot
and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.
too classy??? that's a good one. i guess you enjoy seeing shows at the velvet or even better, the armory.
and smoking will kill you and everyone else around you that breathes your shit.
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I've only been there once (for an anti-landmines benefit with Willie/Emmylou/Steve Earle/Lucinda/sheryl crow) but these are all reasons I have a very positive memory of the place (not to mention the show was killer, and cost only about $25 per ticket)
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
why would not drinking whilst watching the show matter? i can see why one would not like it if you couldnt drink, but why would that make the show better, especially if there are seats (eliminates the beer spilling effect, which in like 300 shows has happened maybe 5 times to me)
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If people aren't able to bring beer to their seats, they're less likely to get up and buy beer, get up to piss, repeat cycle.
I don't care for all that unneccessary climbing over me by strangers during a show bullshit. Sit down and enjoy the music.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
why would not drinking whilst watching the show matter? i can see why one would not like it if you couldnt drink, but why would that make the show better, especially if there are seats (eliminates the beer spilling effect, which in like 300 shows has happened maybe 5 times to me) [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
I don't care for all that unneccessary climbing over me by strangers during a show bullshit. Sit down and enjoy the music.
you have got to be the most dull person i have ever encountered.
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seriously, sonick...what's with all the old farts on the board anymore?
i'd rather go to the lincoln theater than to dar. it's also seated but the acoustics are 100x better. and no...i have not encountered rude employees at other venues in this area (including the lincoln).
i refused to buy tix for morissey and the pixies because of the venue alone. dar is a pisshole.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
the staff rule,
i had an issue with one of the staff when i went and i would never ever go back.
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Originally posted by joz:
because you can't stand up during shows
wait. you mean people will yell at you????
holy crap. i mean, i can understand some places have seats, but MOST bands at least make you wanna stand up and move around....its music for christs sake.
really you cant stand up????
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You would never go back to a concert venue because you once "had an issue with one of the staff"?
Seems like you'd end up cheating yourself out of a lot of good shows.
Originally posted by distance:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the staff rule,
i had an issue with one of the staff when i went and i would never ever go back. [/b]
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I like what Josh Rouse had to say about this (though it sounds like he was wasted when he typed this out):
i just want to reply to the those complaining about the seated venues. if you dont want to sit then you can stand up! i requested seated shows because this is what i prefer, i don't like some big dude bumping into me with his beer every 5 seconds, and to be honest, i want to sit and be able to actually see the band perform. personally, after standing in one place for an hour, my legs start to get tired and my attention drifts. it's not like we are a rock group and everyone is going nuts, it's music for listening....... and dancing in the seats if you like! hah!
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by joz:
because you can't stand up during shows
wait. you mean people will yell at you????
holy crap. i mean, i can understand some places have seats, but MOST bands at least make you wanna stand up and move around....its music for christs sake.
really you cant stand up???? [/b]
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that didnt answer my question.
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The last show I saw there was Lou Reed...80's maybe??...horrible sound,horrible sightlines and an overall fucking unpleasant experience....have not set foot in the place since....and don't plan to.....especially after being in cool midsize venues like the Fillmore or the Warfield...
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i apologize if i came across mean with my last post. music has the strangest effect on people. i randomly picked out a cd to clean my home to, and drew this disk i've listened to half of once since i received it over six years ago, which was built to spill "there's nothing wrong with love." is that their official (major or not) first? listening to it made me realize that i like this and those might like that, for some reason. it makes you happy and all universally snuggly. what a strange reaction. i was flipping through the tube this morning, and on the dicovery whatever channel, they had this "'hister' and the occult" thing on, and i saw that music, namely some work by the brilliant Wagner, inspired most of what 'hister' dreamed of becoming. now that's crazy.
and i totally agree about the lincoln. i choose that place over the other two, major theatre: warner and national. maybe even my favorite place to see a show . . . other than nine thirty. i'm still listening to bts, as i'm sure you can tell. beck nailed the coffin in when he played in 'o three(?), 'o two(?).
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Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
The last show I saw there was Lou Reed...80's maybe??...horrible sound,horrible sightlines and an overall fucking unpleasant experience....have not set foot in the place since....and don't plan to.....especially after being in cool midsize venues like the Fillmore or the Warfield...
and Hammerstein Ballroom, i was there last week, and i cant wait to go back (probably for New Order if i can get tix)
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Originally posted by walkonby:
and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.
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I"m sorry but $6.50 - $7.00 for a warm, in the can, I'll pour it for you Heinekin or Amstel is overpriced. High price for beer at 930 is what, $5.00? ANd that's for the good stuff (Red Hook, Dogfish, Sierra, etc).
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Giant has a 12 pack of Sam Adams for sale for $10. Spending money on beer at concerts is simply stupid, isn't it? I might buy one or two drinks a year at shows.
Whether beer is $5 or $7.50, it's a huge profit margin.
Originally posted by LRHippo:
Originally posted by walkonby:
and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.
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I"m sorry but $6.50 - $7.00 for a warm, in the can, I'll pour it for you Heinekin or Amstel is overpriced. High price for beer at 930 is what, $5.00? ANd that's for the good stuff (Red Hook, Dogfish, Sierra, etc). [/QB]
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because you can't stand up during shows
at the pixies show pretty much everyone in the entire venue was standing
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not if i went. we went to the Prince show at MCI and everyone in the joint was standing up dancing (its prince!) EXCEPT the guy behind us with his woman, who kept asking me to sit down, finally we switched seats.
no one at the Motley crue concert was sitting except for the 2 rows behind us , we eventually stood up, no one said anything.
at the Black crowes, before they went on, girl behind me goes "you arent gonna stand up and dance around are you, cause I'm 4'11"." and this was UNreserved seating. move somewhere else bitch.
sheesh.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You would never go back to a concert venue because you once "had an issue with one of the staff"?
Seems like you'd end up cheating yourself out of a lot of good shows.
actually:
a) there is not much that comes to dar that i want to see
b) what comes to dar that i do want to see i can typically see elsewhere
c) if the building manager or whatever it was acts basically like he wants to fight you, i don't need to give my money to said building. dar can burn for all i care.
it's not that great of a building/concert hall.
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What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
Originally posted by distance:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You would never go back to a concert venue because you once "had an issue with one of the staff"?
Seems like you'd end up cheating yourself out of a lot of good shows.
actually:
a) there is not much that comes to dar that i want to see
b) what comes to dar that i do want to see i can typically see elsewhere
c) if the building manager or whatever it was acts basically like he wants to fight you, i don't need to give my money to said building. dar can burn for all i care.
it's not that great of a building/concert hall. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
if someone offends your character and/or humiliates you or whatever, i dont see whats childish about not giving them your money. Should people be allowed to treat you however they want because they have something you want?
i dont think so. I was wrongly accused of shoplifting at Macy's once and i will never go back, no matter what kind of sale they have.
and i dont feel like i am missing a damn thing, except for being humiliated and taken advantage of.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
Why is it childish?
We live in a capitalist society and one of the best ways to express your opinion is with the money you spend. If a business gives you a poor product or poor service, not patronizing that business is better than writing a letter or bitching on a messageboard.
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i dont use ticketmaster.com and sometimes i miss out on shows because of it, and sure i bitch initially for 10 minutes or a whole day or whatever, but eventually i get over it, and i'd rather miss the show then give them my money.
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Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
the Fillmore or the Warfield...
How big are those places compared to 9:30 club? I think DAR serves for a niche above -- 2500 rather than 1200. [Eww, I just thought, the 'standing' alternative to DAR is probably Nation...]
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I guess it depends on the experience.
If I had one isolated incident with one isolated employee of an establishment, and that incident didn't reflect the overarching attitude of the establishment, I don't think I would do something as excessive as "I'm never going there again." If anything, I would get the employees name, and ask to speak to management or write management a letter of complaint against said employee. Or I would let it slide as a one time bad fluke.
If the incident happened repeatedly, well yes then I would take my business elsewhere.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
Why is it childish?
We live in a capitalist society and one of the best ways to express your opinion is with the money you spend. If a business gives you a poor product or poor service, not patronizing that business is better than writing a letter or bitching on a messageboard. [/b]
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see my response to ggw.
Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
if someone offends your character and/or humiliates you or whatever, i dont see whats childish about not giving them your money. Should people be allowed to treat you however they want because they have something you want?
i dont think so. I was wrongly accused of shoplifting at Macy's once and i will never go back, no matter what kind of sale they have.
and i dont feel like i am missing a damn thing, except for being humiliated and taken advantage of. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
see my response to ggw.
Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p
I wasnt shopping there, asshole. i was walking through.
and your response to ggw was chicken shit. do you know distance's situation? what if a guard punched you in the face? you would write a letter? what a joke...
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
the issue that i had @ dar i don't think would be an issue @ 930. if a member of the 930 staff acted the way this person at dar acted, i can't imagine why they would have a job for very long. i have never seen/heard of 930 management acting in a way that this person did at dar.
and if i had a big enough issue with somewhere, then yes, i would refuse to go back. i don't live in dc, so i have to travel to go to the shows. if it means just travelling in a different direction to go to a show, so be it.
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You're right, it does depend on the situation, as I noted.
Did a guard punch Distance in the face?
I can't imagine why a guard would punch someone as dull as me in the face. But if they did, I would ask to speak to management immediately. The letter would come later in the form of a lawsuit, provided my own conduct hadn't been inappropriate.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
see my response to ggw.
Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p
I wasnt shopping there, asshole. i was walking through.
and your response to ggw was chicken shit. do you know distance's situation? what if a guard punched you in the face? you would write a letter? what a joke... [/b]
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to answer your question, sonick...before i went to dar, i was told by others that dar was a "seated" venue and that security would ask you to sit if you decided to stand. at the sonic youth/wilco show, for example, the crowd remained seated until the band invited the crowd to stand up towards the end. even then, the balcony remained firmly seated. it was really uncomfortable and inhibiting. maybe they don't want people falling off the very steeply inclined balcony?? it almost made me dizzy it was that steep.
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So what was the issue, and why could it not possibly be an issue at the 9:30?
Originally posted by distance:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?
the issue that i had @ dar i don't think would be an issue @ 930. if a member of the 930 staff acted the way this person at dar acted, i can't imagine why they would have a job for very long. i have never seen/heard of 930 management acting in a way that this person did at dar.
and if i had a big enough issue with somewhere, then yes, i would refuse to go back. i don't live in dc, so i have to travel to go to the shows. if it means just travelling in a different direction to go to a show, so be it. [/b]
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by joz:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
and...
because the staff has been rude to me numerous times
because the atm was broken and there was a no readmittance rule so that i could go and get money out at another atm and return to buy overpriced beers to guzzle in the atmosphere-less beer garden that reminds me of the common-area in my college dorm
because you can't stand up during shows
because bands really don't sound that great there (the sound of most bands is completely swallowed up and is especially drowned out if you're high on the balcony) [/b]
the staff of anyplace can be rude. especially if one deserves it.
you obviously been to the wrong shows at dar, because we all stand and party like there is no tommorrow at the shows we go to. we don't need no education.
and quit sitting so high up and maybe you can hear. the same rule applies at patriot
and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.
too classy??? that's a good one. i guess you enjoy seeing shows at the velvet or even better, the armory.
and smoking will kill you and everyone else around you that breathes your shit. [/b]
i don't smoke, but its a rock show. i like to drink beer while i watch music, i really don't think that's a big deal. it seems silly to me to go see sonic youth/wilco and feel underdressed in a tshirt and jeans
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So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?
Or does not being surrounded by smokers destroy your concert going experience?
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i don't smoke, but its a rock show. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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if they ban smoking at bars in the district, i will drop that complaint. its ok if they let you back in too
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?
people smoke in those shows anyway, last week at the black crowes EVERYONE was freakin smoking, and not just cigarettes!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Giant has a 12 pack of Sam Adams for sale for $10. Spending money on beer at concerts is simply stupid, isn't it? I might buy one or two drinks a year at shows.
that's like saying buying food at disney world is stupid.
you're an idiot.
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that's like saying buying food at disney world is stupid.
you're an idiot.
that's one way of saying it. another way would be that without those beer sales, these venues wouldn't make money/exist, and you wouldn't be able to see any bands.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Giant has a 12 pack of Sam Adams for sale for $10. Spending money on beer at concerts is simply stupid, isn't it? I might buy one or two drinks a year at shows.
I heard you can buy wholesale 12 packs of Sam Adams for $5 if you're a beer distributor. Spending money on beer at Giant is simply stupid, isn't it?
I also heard that Sam Adams fucking blows.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Giant has a 12 pack of Sam Adams for sale for $10. Spending money on beer at concerts is simply stupid, isn't it? I might buy one or two drinks a year at shows.
that's like saying buying food at disney world is stupid.
you're an idiot. [/b]
yeah, what the fuck rhett, you are an idiot.
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hopefully the parking will be as nice as this weaving cosmic string has become, floating through the dark matter.
i love concerts for the sublime fact, that you have this relatively simple production, that takes up two to three hours of our lives, and then it's over; go home. but yet the actual process of going, getting ready, planning, thinking about it, ordering tickets, bitching, is something to rant or praise on about as long as we can remember the event.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
I also heard that Sam Adams fucking blows.
It's certainly way overrated. Americans aren't supposed to be famous for beer anyway. Buy Canadian. If you gotta drink U.S, get Rolling Rock. It tastes better than Samuel Jackson, plus you save 3 bucks.
<img src="http://www.alcoholreviews.com/BEERS/rollingrock.gif" alt=" - " />
And there's even a cute horse!
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rolling rock is horrid chick beer. and that's coming from a southwestern pa native
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for good american brew, you must go to total wine in the burbs. it was called total beverage at one time. the best american i've had, though, was from that so-so restaurant, that people wait two hours for just to eat at--what a joke--called sweet water tavern. they have a beer that comes around once a year, usually about feb. or march called saint nick's weizenbock(sp?). when they first released it, it has such a high alcohol content that two down and start acting silly at the table. and best in taste for usa, i personally believe as well.
i love rolling rock. has anyone had the light version? worth buying or worth wasting?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
rolling rock is horrid chick beer. and that's coming from a southwestern pa native
If you don't like Rock, get Iron City.
Though anything Canadian qualifies for best-near-local brew.
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why doesn't this site have a spell checker? everything else does, nowadays. even happy meals come with 'em by now. i go back and scan what i write before i send it, and maybe again, because we know about being so critical. whatever happened to my punishment time from miss maple? gosh magic mirror, how i miss it. then i read what i've written in the actual thread itself, for some reason . . . just to find a mistake. or perhaps they do it on purpose, to weed out the white from the trash.
dear lord, i am addicted to the spell checker.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
called sweet water tavern. they have a beer that comes around once a year, usually about feb. or march called saint nick's weizenbock(sp?). when they first released it, it has such a high alcohol content that two down and start acting silly at the table. and best in taste for usa, i personally believe as well.
i love rolling rock. has anyone had the light version? worth buying or worth wasting?
If you looking for good, cheap beer with strength + taste, drink any 40 ounce malt liquor, or better yet, Mickey's big mouth. Tom Waits even sings it's praise!
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Haven't read the thread but saw that we might be discussing the quality of US beers? If that's the case, then for what it's worth, here you have a foreigner who thinks that this country has some excellent beers. Sierra Nevada is one of my favorite beers. Also, I remember a locally brewed beer in North Carolina that was simply excellent.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Haven't read the thread but saw that we might be discussing the quality of US beers? If that's the case, then for what it's worth, here you have a foreigner who thinks that this country has some excellent beers. Sierra Nevada is one of my favorite beers. Also, I remember a locally brewed beer in North Carolina that was simply excellent.
Sierra Nevada is a lot like Anchor Steam and other trendy brews. These are likely imbibed by bourgeoise types. Even with their high price and fancy label, they're no comparison to anything from Holland/Germany. Also, they are not meant for mass consumption, therefore they don't really count. I stand by my statement: Americans aren't known for their beer.
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Note: I'd still rather have a Rolling Rock than a Guiness.
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Who made you the ultimate source on beer? It's all opinion, dude?
I like Sierra, and I'm certainly not bourgeous. Hell, I don't even know how to spell the word.
It's about quality, not quantity. Sure, Sierra is on the expensive end, but when you drink perhaps two beers a week, why not go for the good stuff? Doesn't make me bourgeouis.
Originally posted by Y. P. Blood:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Haven't read the thread but saw that we might be discussing the quality of US beers? If that's the case, then for what it's worth, here you have a foreigner who thinks that this country has some excellent beers. Sierra Nevada is one of my favorite beers. Also, I remember a locally brewed beer in North Carolina that was simply excellent.
Sierra Nevada is a lot like Anchor Steam and other trendy brews. These are likely imbibed by bourgeoise types. Even with their high price and fancy label, they're no comparison to anything from Holland/Germany. Also, they are not meant for mass consumption, therefore they don't really count. I stand by my statement: Americans aren't known for their beer.
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Note: I'd still rather have a Rolling Rock than a Guiness. [/b]
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?
people smoke in those shows anyway, last week at the black crowes EVERYONE was freakin smoking, and not just cigarettes! [/b]
Sonick: Must have been in the b-room cause smokin' is banned in all NYC venues: bars, restaurants, hotels...etc. I was SO digging on fresh air last week: I can handle drunks, brutish behavior, but burned clothing and harmed lungs are almost NOT worth the music...BTW: I am totally curious: What DO you stand for WalkOnBy; I've supported you, and been attacked by you; and then taken an opposing pov and you've agreed...you're a hard person to figure. Can you enlighten us?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
when you drink perhaps two beers a week, why not go for the good stuff?
...German beer not good enough for you? What are you, some kinda snob?
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
Sonick: Must have been in the b-room cause smokin' is banned in all NYC venues: bars, restaurants, hotels...etc.
so is speeding on the highway. but unless its strictly enoforced, people do it anyway. we smoked at our seats, as were the guys in front of us, next to us AND behind us. the security guard didnt say anything to anyone.
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Originally posted by Y. P. Blood:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
rolling rock is horrid chick beer. and that's coming from a southwestern pa native
If you don't like Rock, get Iron City.
Though anything Canadian qualifies for best-near-local brew. [/b]
wow. you may have the worst taste in beer ever.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show
Couldn't have said it better.
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Originally posted by Sayonaro:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?
people smoke in those shows anyway, last week at the black crowes EVERYONE was freakin smoking, and not just cigarettes! [/b]
Sonick: Must have been in the b-room cause smokin' is banned in all NYC venues: bars, restaurants, hotels...etc. I was SO digging on fresh air last week: I can handle drunks, brutish behavior, but burned clothing and harmed lungs are almost NOT worth the music...BTW: I am totally curious: What DO you stand for WalkOnBy; I've supported you, and been attacked by you; and then taken an opposing pov and you've agreed...you're a hard person to figure. Can you enlighten us? [/b]
i think i have multipurpose personalities. nineteen, ninety-nine and a free set of pancake tongs. what do i stand for? i stand for everything's twin, and nothing's a sin. but sometimes i forget what i say. i beleive in happy days; i beleive in joannie loves crotchie; i beleive in swordfish. and i love mickey's big mouth, too!! good lord in heaven, that was the first beer i drank. it was two dollars and so for a sixer, and boy did it mess up your mind. i also stand for this place, which has offered me so much entertainment over the months and opened my ears to bands i would of never heard of, and of cource having people call you a complete loser and totally ignore what you have to say.
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Originally posted by Y. P. Blood:
Sierra Nevada is a lot like Anchor Steam and other trendy brews. These are likely imbibed by bourgeoise types. Even with their high price and fancy label, they're no comparison to anything from Holland/Germany. Also, they are not meant for mass consumption, therefore they don't really count. I stand by my statement: Americans aren't known for their beer.
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Note: I'd still rather have a Rolling Rock than a Guiness.
everything you wrote here tells me you are crazy, except the part about Holland/Germany making good beers, although I might limit that to Germany
and I don't think Sierra is *trendy* I've been drinking it for almost ten years...nor should one NOT like something because it is "bourgeios"...if that were the case I couldn't eat sushi because hillbilly's say it's "yuppie food"
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I guess I will have to change my screen name to bourgeoise Barcelona because I am not going to stop drinking Sierra. The taste is excellent and I don't care what people at shows might think about me for drinking this beer. As for holland and germany, i think you missed Belgium, the best beers I have ever drunk are from there.
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Favorite beer - Negra Modelo. Old Speckled Hen is another fave of mine. I love beer. I love different beers. I love trying new beers. However, there is no beer I hate more than Rolling Rock. It tastes like shit.
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I always suspected that there were a lot of bohemian pretenders on the bboard
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Originally posted by Y. P. Blood:
I always suspected that there were a lot of bohemian pretenders on the bboard
or a bunch of fuckin idiots.
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Fuckin' A !
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Maybe we should have our next gathering at the Brickskeller.
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Beers with fruit in them also suck.
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
Beers with fruit in them also suck.
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no way! Lindeman's Lambic is the best!
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word up to the lambic!! the rasperry rules over the cherry.
beers with fruits in them? how ever do they get them in those bottles? the fab five wants to know.
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I have to admit...I've never tried a lambic. I've been meaning to and never know which one to get.
Rogue Shakespeare Stout is another favorite. Especially on tap at Lost Dog.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
[QB] word up to the lambic!! the rasperry rules over the cherry.
QB]
what about peach?!?
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I get my beer from North America's oldest brewery... (http://tinyurl.com/55axr)
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I'm limited by a lot of beers that I know use isinglas or gelatin as filtering agents in the process. However, I'm a bit partial to Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout.
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
Rogue Shakespeare Stout is another favorite. Especially on tap at Lost Dog.
i like shakespeare stout with the dead guy ale, for a dead poet. a black and tan of sorts
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Originally posted by palahniukkubrick:
Originally posted by walkonby:
[QB] word up to the lambic!! the rasperry rules over the cherry.
QB]
what about peach?!? [/b]
i will try it, to see. i dunno though. peach and beer?
and property props to the good ole black and blue: 3/4th blue moon, topped with 1/4 guinness. on tap only, of cource.
and j.r.'s is the worst bar ever. i just love having guys that all seem to look the same stare at you for obnoxiously long periods of time while slowly sliding their hands to their crotch area, to see if you notice . . . while drinking bud light. good lord gay boys, get a job, and a better beer. and that doesn't mean sam adams either. can sammy even make a good beer? i think the best they've ever done, is their holiday pack. these boots are made for walking.
plus, the yeah yeah yeahs to me. i found the secret secret spot to park for shows at dar. taxi cabs drivers will do anything for a buck. whoo hoo!