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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Sage 703 on February 25, 2008, 02:30:00 pm
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Do we have boardies writing for Maxim now?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080223/ap_en_mu/music_black_crowes_maxim_8 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080223/ap_en_mu/music_black_crowes_maxim_8)
NEW YORK - The Black Crowes are lashing out at Maxim magazine for reviewing the band's new album â?? apparently without actually hearing it first.
The review, published in Maxim's March issue, gives the Crowes' "Warpaint" a rating of two-and-a-half stars out of five.
"The writer â?? who has not heard the album since advance CDs were not made available â?? wrote what appears to be a disparaging assessment anyway, citing, `it hasn't left Chris Robinson and the gang much room for growth,'" said a statement on the band's official Web site.
The band's manager, Pete Angelus, said the magazine explained that its review was an "educated guess."
"It speaks directly to the lack of the publication's credibility," Angelus said in a statement. "In my opinion, it's a disgrace to the arts, journalism, critics, the publication itself and the public. What's next â?? Maxim's concert reviews of shows they never attended, book reviews of books never read and film reviews of films never seen?"
A representative for the magazine would not confirm or deny to The Associated Press whether the writer actually listened to the album. Instead, Maxim released this statement in response: "Maxim will continue to provide our readers with information that is important to them, whether it is about fashion, lifestyle, technology, music, movies and more."
"Warpaint," the band's first album in seven years, is set for release March 4. The blues-rock group, fronted by Chris Robinson, has released only one song from the disc, "Goodbye Daughters of the Revolution."
The band's hits include "Hard to Handle" and "She Talks to Angels."
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If advance copies were not made available, why does the last issue of Paste contain a four star review of the album?
Did they review it without hearing it as well? Did they give an unheard album four starrs perhaps because they were putting the Crowes on the cover, and gave them four stars in exchange for the time that Chris Robinson gave to the reporter at his high price California pad?
If you read the Paste article, you without a doubt come away feeling like Chris Robinson is the biggest fucking poseur in music. Or so I did.
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That's a good question that I don't know the answer to - but I would imagine it is tied to the cover story. They likely held a listening session for the writer covering the band.
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Maxim does that a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of months (say by April's issue) they have movie "reviews" of summer movies that there is no WAY they have seen yet, like Indiana Jones or Batman.
First, the Old Grey Lady and now Maxim. It's been a bad week for journalistic ethics.
Brian
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what do you want to bet there is a ysi or torrent out there and this reviewer downloaded it illegally
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Since when did Maxim ever have a shred of journalistic credibility anyway? It's an exceedingly dumbass magazine read by moronic fratboy blockheads.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Since when did Maxim ever have a shred of journalistic credibility anyway? It's an exceedingly dumbass magazine read by moronic fratboy blockheads.
Hey! That magazine taught me to make a potato gun out of a paper towel roll.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
what do you want to bet there is a ysi or torrent out there and this reviewer downloaded it illegally
That was my first thought, but my quick look didn't find anything (I'm not on any registration required sites).
But I think the telling point is that review wasn't favorable. As Charlie points out, had the review been favorable like Paste, they would have had no questions about the writer's integrity.
What musician reads their own reviews anyway, or more so, cares enough to comment about them?
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Now that I think about it, I think the BC Paste article was not a cover story, but everything else I said was accurate...
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Correct, the cover story was about Michael Jackson
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I could review the Black Crowes without hearing it........IT'S SHYTE
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
I could review the Black Crowes without hearing it........IT'S SHYTE
This coming from someone who reveres the Spice Girls and Morrissey.
Brian
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Originally posted by vansmack:
What musician reads their own reviews anyway, or more so, cares enough to comment about them?
99% of them, I'd reckon
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Since when did Maxim ever have a shred of journalistic credibility anyway? It's an exceedingly dumbass magazine read by moronic fratboy blockheads.
you see, i would figure that moronic fratboy blockhead homophobic, yet secretly homosexual dumbasses would like the new black crowes without hearing it
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
moronic fratboy blockhead dumbasses
We're so misunderstood. You couldn't have shoehorned "homophobic, yet secretly homosexual" in there?
Brian
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Did Paste apologize for posting a 5 star review without hearing the album?
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They should apologize to anyone who bought the album based on their review.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Did Paste apologize for posting a 5 star review without hearing the album?
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
I could review the Black Crowes without hearing it........IT'S SHYTE
This coming from someone who reveres the Spice Girls and Morrissey.
Brian [/b]
Get your facts straight before making slanderous remarks.
I revere Morrissey
I want to shag the Spice Girls (except Sporty)
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Wait a minute! I thought rock stars didn't care about what others write about in the press, let alone read it. it annoys me when entertainers aren't immune from the easily offended bug.
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Hey bull930, I thought you only used your RonniStar moniker to report celebrity deaths.
Originally posted by RonniStar:
Wait a minute! I thought rock stars didn't care about what others write about in the press, let alone read it. it annoys me when entertainers aren't immune from the easily offended bug.
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Carrie Brownstein took it a step further: (http://www.npr.org/blogs/monitormix/2008/02/your_trusted_source_for_music.html)
Your Trusted Source for Music Reviews
Bear in Heaven-Red Bloom of the Boom
The latest effort by BIH, RBOTB, is a swirling, dizzying, daring, vertiginous ride. "Bag of Bags" blends angelic harmonies with toast. And "Fraternal Noon" left me wanting a warm sweater that I could then layer over a T-shirt only to be too warm and have to wear just the T-shirt.
Rating: Double Tall Sugar Free Vanilla Latte. Or, Go Bears!
These United States-A Picture Of The Three Of Us At The Gate To The Garden Of Eden.
By the time I finished reading the title the album was already over.
Rating: 2 F**ks and 1.5 Yeahs.
Kaki King-Dreaming Of Revenge
I've been waiting for this CD for 11 years and it finally arrived. "Life Being What It Is" is King at his best, while "Open Mouth" is King even better than he usually is. "Air and Kilometers" is a beautiful song about traveling in a plane in a country that uses the metric system and "Montreal" is about a city in Canada.
Rating: Happy Milkshake.
Wye Oak-If Children
This album is one, long beautiful poem beginning with the line "If Children.....". I don't even need to tell you the rest. It's Whitney Houston's "The Greatest Love Of All" except angrier and totally against mid-wives.
Rating: 7 divided by 3 times 10 plus your sun sign.
The Shins-Honey Poke Shimmy Lantern
James Mercer and crew can do no wrong. They've added the Decemberists, the Thermals, and Spoon to their lineup. Recorded inside a deer carcass, the sounds on Honey Poke are haunting and cervid. These songs will change your life back to the way it was before The Shins changed it the first time. Remember that song "Red Rubber Ball?" It's on this album!
Rating: $800
The White Stripes-Pale Pail
This album was recorded on an abacus.
Rating: Seborrhea
Tift Merrit-Another Country
Tift Merrit sings the book by James Baldwin.
Rating: Really, really fun.
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Maxim Says CD Review Was Actually "Preview"
(The Associated Press) Facing more criticism over rating albums without listening to them, Maxim magazine maintains it was previewing CDs in its March issue, not reviewing them, and the mistake was to include star ratings.
Maxim editorial director James Kaminsky told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the magazine had erred in presenting unreleased albums by The Black Crowes and Nas as reviews and judging them with stars.
"I will be the last person to mince words here: This is a mistake, "Kaminsky said. "It's a mistake that won't happen again, but it's not a mistake that appears in other parts of (the magazine's entertainment section). ... There should be no blurry line between what's a preview and what's a review."
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As far as the Crowes' reaction to the controversy, Angelus told the AP on Wednesday: "They don't really read musical reviews. But of course they are very aware of this situation, and you know, they think it's highly unethical."
klink (http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=9514)
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You be the judge on the new Black Crowes album...
http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/luisterpaal/39360082 (http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/luisterpaal/39360082)