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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: wml7 on April 05, 2009, 11:49:11 am
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I'm in for Wed. So how does Dar Compare to Warner?? Very impressed with Warner from the Morrissey show. Same setting, layout?
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I'm going.
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Im in.
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Me and my girlfriend will be there!
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tuesday night in philly. orchestra pit, second row!
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I'm in for Wed. So how does Dar Compare to Warner?? Very impressed with Warner from the Morrissey show. Same setting, layout?
Warner may be my favorite venue in town to see a show (depending on the act).
DAR is the worst venue in town, irregardless of who is performing.
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I'm in...got a ticket thanks to another awesome boardie...thanks Killsaly! I haven't seen DCFC since they opened for the Dismemberment Plan at the Club in like 2002 maybe? It's been a while...looking forward to this show.
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Now I wanna go! I am a member (for not much longer) of their fan club and if I win, I can bring +1, but need a ticket number to reference for the show. Anyone have an extra? Anyone have an extra and wanna put your name in the hat w/ me?
Also, are doors 7? Start 8 pm? Just curious of the overall set times, thanks.
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saw the show last night in philly.
rarariot: 7:58 - 8:16. their very short set was fun.
CWK: 8:35-9:10. way better than the last time i saw them (was it opening for muse at the patriot center? i forget). the missus developed a huge crush on the singer.
DCFC: 9:45 - 11:10'ish. strong & varied set that fans are sure to enjoy. played something off every album or just about. "i will possess your heart" sounded GREAT. chris walla isn't aging so well and needs longer pants. ben needs a haircut. i took a bunch of pix on my cell's crappy-cam, i'll try to post them soon.
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It looks like there are single seats available at TM.
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Hey can you bring cameras into this place how strict are they? Do they wand you or what?
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I had no problem taking a camera in for Bloc Party a while back. I took a bazillion pics and nobody said a word.
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I am SO happy I went to this show...thanks to Killsaly for the ticket. I have to say that from where we were sitting the sound was pretty excellent, and I'm thrilled about that since DAR is such a crapshoot. Cold War Kids have grown a lot since I saw them a couple of years ago with Tokyo Police Club. I'm assuming they played mostly stuff from "Loyalty to Loyalty"? As of this week I've essentially ended a relationship-type thing...complications galore, but it was intense as all hell. Some of the best times of my life, but I knew it was never going to work. Again, complications. Hence, Death Cab was the ideal band for me to be seeing right now. Opening with "Marching Bands of Manhattan" really set a tone for me because I love that song. The other highlights for me were definitely "President of What", "Cath", "The Sound of Settling" and of course "I Will Possess Your Heart" really looked and sounded gorgeous. "Transatlanticism" is a nice closer too. I had a terrific time.
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yes, excellent show! Dar isn't as bad as a lot of people made it out to be. I had an aisle seat which was a little anoying because ushers and people kept walking back and forth. No problem with the camera or anything. Was able to get tons of pics and videos. Got all of I will posses your heart. Some funny things from the show was there was this guy that sat in a row ahead of me. When Cold War Kids came on a couple of people in front of him stood up for them. He first went to one row ahead of him to tell the guy to sit down and then went a few more rows to tell another person to sit down haha. No one listened of course, classic.
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in philly i was surprised at how little they used their light set-up. they had these LED "light poles" around the stage that they lit up exactly twice - was a waste IMO, they could have been used a lot more effectively. hopefully they did more with them in DC.
I have to say that from where we were sitting the sound was pretty excellent, and I'm thrilled about that since DAR is such a crapshoot.
Dar isn't as bad as a lot of people made it out to be.
i'd just like to point out that i'm not the only one who thinks DAR can be a perfectly fine venue. all those people on auto-hate need to open their minds. maybe it's because it doesn't always sound great that people are up in arms? in that case blame the sound techs.
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I think it depends on the band and where you sit. The Pixies were not a good band to have there. Bands like Belle and Sebastian and DCFC were great...you could sit if you want or stand (most people in the orchestra were standing), and last night the sound was really clear from where I was sitting and there was a perfect balance of everyone. The bass was terrific. I was surprised at how the Arcade Fire turned that whole place into one big party. I generally am not a fan of the balcony, but again, it depends where you are sitting. When it comes down to it, I'd rather see a band at DAR than travel up to Baltimore (though I guess ultimately I'd be happy to do both as opposed to not have a band come to DC at all).
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i'd just like to point out that i'm not the only one who thinks DAR can be a perfectly fine venue. all those people on auto-hate need to open their minds. maybe it's because it doesn't always sound great that people are up in arms? in that case blame the sound techs.
Seconded. My Morning Jacket, Morrissey, Arcade Fire, and Ryan Adams (if you're into his Dead-ish stuff, which I am) all sounded great there. Death Cab sounded alright when I saw them with Franz Ferdinand. I'm sure I'm forgetting some others - but I have no big grudge about D.A.R. You just have to be mindful of what band your seeing in deciding whether to go to a show there or not.
I agree that the Pixies were a poor choice. I thought Franz Ferdinand was poor as well - too much reverb for a band that thrives on quick changes and staccato guitars.
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in philly i was surprised at how little they used their light set-up. they had these LED "light poles" around the stage that they lit up exactly twice - was a waste IMO, they could have been used a lot more effectively. hopefully they did more with them in DC.
i used to subscribe to the school of thought that the more to look at during a concert was generally a bad thing. you can be distracted by how bad a bad band is when there are all these distractions on stage. (another way to think of it: would anyone enjoy or even see a kelly clarkson concert, for example, if they didn't have all the dancing, wardrobe changes, pyrotechnics, etc?).
however, i've changed. i realize how much good lighting can really make a good band that much more awesome. the arcade fire's show at dar a few years ago comes to mind as does a lot of wilco shows i've seen.
the point of this is that the lighting at the dcfc show seemed rather amateur. in fact, the whole stage looked rather..."meh." the band played so well but the lighting didn't do anything worthwhile.
i'd just like to point out that i'm not the only one who thinks DAR can be a perfectly fine venue. all those people on auto-hate need to open their minds. maybe it's because it doesn't always sound great that people are up in arms? in that case blame the sound techs.
agreed. of the handfull of shows i've seen at dar, i've always enjoyed them. what really sucks, though, is when the show is sold out, there's a line out the door for both the bathroom and the bar, and the only atm in the house is broken -- like last night.
also, if i may step up on my soapbox of show courtesy, it drives me up the wall when people head for the exits halfway through the last song - especially in large numbers. so many people were fleeing to the metro halfway through "transatlanticism". i always wonder if they all stayed and clapped, we'd might get a chance at another encore from the band.
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i used to subscribe to the school of thought that the more to look at during a concert was generally a bad thing. you can be distracted by how bad a bad band is when there are all these distractions on stage.
don't get me wrong, i completely agree with you - good lighting doesn't make up for a bad performance. but if the cake is solid, why not have a tasty icing instead of a bland one? especially when so many so many good ingredients are on hand?
(another way to think of it: would anyone enjoy or even see a kelly clarkson concert, for example, if they didn't have all the dancing, wardrobe changes, pyrotechnics, etc?).
slight aside, but i think ms clarkson's popularity has a lot more to do with awareness and marketing. i'm not familiar with her fans but i'm not sure how many go in with the expectation/desire of seeing bright lights and sparkly costumes. so the initial decision probably isn't based on stage show, but the actual enjoyment probably is... whatever :)
however, i've changed. i realize how much good lighting can really make a good band that much more awesome. the arcade fire's show at dar a few years ago comes to mind as does a lot of wilco shows i've seen.
the light should be part of the band's over-all vision for the show. is it more than just the music? can the visuals amplify the songs? can we serve up some eye candy along with the ear candy? (nose candy optional). DCFC's lights left me with the impressions that they parachuted someone in to do them - someone who isn't even familiar with the music and didn't get much if any direction from the band. like you said, a little amateurish.
also, if i may step up on my soapbox of show courtesy, it drives me up the wall when people head for the exits halfway through the last song - especially in large numbers. so many people were fleeing to the metro halfway through "transatlanticism". i always wonder if they all stayed and clapped, we'd might get a chance at another encore from the band.
yeah, but on the other hand the whole encore thing is rather contrived. once upon a time crowd reaction might have been rewarded with an impromptu encore, but nowadays they're almost all scripted - encore songs are pre-determined and written in to the set list. a bar band might have the luxury of playing one more song but big productions depend on a lot of people that the band probably doesn't want to piss off. curfews might also play a role. huh... that gives me an idea for a new thread...
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miss p recently pointed out that ben is looking fitter than ever - he is indeed slimmer than i've ever seen him.
Running With A Purpose: Death Cab for Cutie?s Ben Gibbard and Cold War Kids? Nathan Willett are taking advantage of their bands' North American tour together to squeeze in some exercise for a good cause (http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2009/04/14/660591.aspx)
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Actually, I thought the Pixies show there was pretty darn fantastic. I think it helps to be sitting in the center there, soundwise.