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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kosmo vinyl on July 28, 2009, 10:10:13 am

Title: Constitution Hall
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 28, 2009, 10:10:13 am
 I do believe we have heard it all before with regards to this venue.  But if one truly needs to share thoughts about Constitution, post them here not the Just Announced thread. Otherwise they will be deleted from the just announced thread
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: wml7 on July 28, 2009, 10:21:51 am
i like it but only seen one show which was death cab and ra ra riot.  Pretty good show  ;D
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: walkonby on July 28, 2009, 10:26:21 am
the building reaks of pretty positions on an outside perspective when rainy, smoldering fog drifts through the city thus hiding the carts of death eggrolls, two for ten tshirts, and pizza by the slice.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2009, 10:27:11 am
mmmmmm...eggrolls
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Yada on July 28, 2009, 10:29:17 am
worst venue in the district and potentially one of the worst venues I've ever been to in my concert going career of 15 years or so.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: sweetcell on July 28, 2009, 01:58:37 pm
when i get a moment i'll search for one of my previous posts about why it isn't bad.  i don't mind it.  not my fav, but i've seen some amazing shows there and it can sound great.  to be continued.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: walkonby on July 28, 2009, 02:19:23 pm
worst venue in the district and potentially one of the worst venues I've ever been to in my concert going career of 15 years or so.

by that logic, seeing how the last time they played dc they played the same venue meaning they must like the venue, the pixies must be the worst band you have ever heard in the last 15 years.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: sweetcell on July 28, 2009, 02:39:36 pm
when it's walkonby who is bringing the logic, you KNOW the thread is headed somewhere interesting.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: fatskippy on July 28, 2009, 04:51:54 pm
I'll take DAR over a sold out/overcrowded 9:30 Club any day
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: killsaly on July 28, 2009, 05:28:43 pm
I usually have a good time at DAR. 
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Mobius on July 28, 2009, 08:09:19 pm
its like seeing a band presented as a museum exhibit . . .that works better for some acts than others . . .
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: thirsty moore on July 28, 2009, 09:15:43 pm
Walkonby's got a lolcat photo for this thread. I just know it.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: wml7 on July 28, 2009, 09:21:47 pm
of course he does wheres the cat  ;D
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Jaguar on July 28, 2009, 09:34:56 pm
Here kitty, kitty, kitty. Come on out and play, you furry little ball of lovin'.  ;D


On topic: DAR isn't my favorite venue but, as a few others have said, it's not bad with the right acts. Have to admit that I was well impressed with how well The Pixies came off at DAR. Their return should be a good show.

At least I'll go to DAR if it's a show I really want to see, unlike Nissan or any arena or stadium shows.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: walkonby on July 28, 2009, 10:40:13 pm
when i go to the constitution hall in the dc town and listen to the pixies:

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Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2009, 12:46:39 am
Pixies were great there last time!...

But the venue is just not a MUSIC venue.. its not meant for shows... Seth should build a midsize concert hall and stop cheapskating it by renting DAR...



Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 29, 2009, 06:21:08 am
But the venue is just not a MUSIC venue.. its not meant for shows... Seth should build a midsize concert hall and stop cheapskating it by renting DAR...

DAR has been a music venue ever since it opened and refused to allow black performers on stage for the first thirty years or so ... maybe it's not a ROCK MUSIC venue, but it's certainly a MUSIC venue ...
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2009, 07:56:06 am
Pixies were great there last time!...

But the venue is just not a MUSIC venue.. its not meant for shows... Seth should build a midsize concert hall and stop cheapskating it by renting DAR...





Why?  He has access to use Merriweather for five plus months out of the year.  A just how many mid-size events get booked in these parts, certainly not enough to justify the building of a venue which would sit empty most of the time.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2009, 08:35:02 am
Also it's a shame Seth can't get a sweetheart deal from some local county government in order to build a larger club in a revitalized town center area.  Or for that matter be able to book shows at the Warner Theater...
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: set1914 on July 29, 2009, 11:48:18 am
Warner is a Live Nation venue.

As for Constitution Hall every show I seen there has been a good time. They also pour a good cocktail there.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 29, 2009, 12:11:08 pm
Also it's a shame Seth can't get a sweetheart deal from some local county government in order to build a larger club in a revitalized town center area. 
No it's not. Monopolies are bad, and the Hurwitz one has lasted long enough.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2009, 12:32:59 pm
Pixies were great there last time!...

But the venue is just not a MUSIC venue.. its not meant for shows... Seth should build a midsize concert hall and stop cheapskating it by renting DAR...





Why?  He has access to use Merriweather for five plus months out of the year.  A just how many mid-size events get booked in these parts, certainly not enough to justify the building of a venue which would sit empty most of the time.

Huh?

The 930 sells out more shows than not! Its too small for the shows its booking.. I'm not saying he needs to build a venue as big as DAR but most definitely a 2000-2500 capacity place..

Merriweather is way too big and way too far..

Look, if Seth doesn't want to build another venue because he can rent out DAR then thats his business.. Likewise its my business not to attend shows in a sub-standard venue.

Also, I think anyone can see- anyone who looks at the DC market that it is missing a venue with capacity between say a 930 Club and a Patriot Center.. I am not going to include a theater with stagehand costs such as the Warner.. its simply not a viable place to host more than the very ocassional rock concert.. So right now we have DAR filling that gap.. But I dont' think I'm crazy to think the place sucks for rock shows (not just sound..)

Of course that gap is going to be filled by the Live Nation Fillmore all the way out in Silver SPring.. thats a shame and a lost opportunity by Seth.. and he knows that its a lost opportunity and a threat which is why he's doing everything he can to stop it (not much he can do).. If he'd been a bit more proactive he would have gotten on the good foot and built it himself in DC.. instead he's left to challenge someone else trying to do it.. THe argument that he's doing this for the DC consumer or the SIlver Spring or Montgomery county taxpayer does not stand up to the slightest scrutiny..

at least thats the way I see it.. So many bands that are playing the 930 are just too big for it at this point... we see bands faced with a choice of doing multiple nights at the 930 to satisfy demand, booking at DAR which I do not believe they want to do or having to go elsewhere...And DAR is often too big



Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: xneverwherex on July 29, 2009, 12:46:41 pm
Cry me a river! So you have to go to a Live Nation venue Fillmore presents in Silver Spring. At least its another option to see more bands and just a hop, skip and jump away on the metro.

Im in NYC - and Id easily go 35-40 mins to Park Slope to see a band at The Bell House or easily go to Williamsburg to see a band. Why is it so asinine to actually get off your ass and go somewhere to see a band.

What kind of music fan are you anyway? To expect someone to be in your neighborhood all the time is foolish. For me - Id rather they never book bands at Roseland and T5 no matter how close they are to me. Theres better venues and if it takes an hour, so be it. Read a book.

But I guess Sweetcell, IxpBk, myself and a few others are the exception who will go wherever we have to, to see great music.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 29, 2009, 01:00:32 pm
Basically...this and the Richmond/baltimore rant proves that Hutch is a shitty douche of a music fan.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2009, 01:17:00 pm
ANd onwards and upwards we go..

I'll go to the LN venue but I prefer IMP. IMP is a much better company from the top down.. does things better..I actually have great admiration for Seth and I think we're very lucky to have IMP to face up to the LN juggernaut.

They're not perfect but they are better than Live Nation soon to be Live Nation Ticket Master..

I wasn't trying to cry a river.. I go see a ton of shows in different places..And if its someone I really want to see I will go to Richmond or New York or Chicago never mind Silver Spring! I happen to live here since 1993 and I love this town and just want our music scene to continue to develop and improve.

It would be good for DC to have a mid size music venue that was better (and smaller) than DAR.. This is not a position unique to me. I think the DC City Council actually has the same postion. Most of my friends will not go to DAR shows much like they won't go to Nissan.. Evidently a really big music fan will go to see the band she/he wants to see anywhere...and they will likely enjoy the show.. DOes not mean they would not enjoy it more in a better venue.

I didn't realize this was a controversial position and am sorry to have offended anyone. Perhaps I'll reconsider posting so as to not earn your enmity and insults. I also didn't realize that this thread had been opened merely to collect posts by boardies praising the venue for its wonderful acoustics et al.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 29, 2009, 02:42:40 pm
Just because most of the shows sell out at the 9:30 doesn't mean that they could sell out much more than the 1200 capacity. In reality, how many times do any of us get totally shut out of a show at the 9:30? If you really want to get in, there's ALWAYS a way. Does anyone remember the days of the old 9:30 Club? Now THAT was a harder ticket to get, especially if it was a pretty big band playing. And that's when Seth started doing more and more shows at WUST (what is now 9:30 for those of you that weren't in DC at the time). Sure, DC could use a really good venue in the 3,000-4,500 capacity, but that's not the sort of venue that you could fill night after night. I think the 9:30 Club is right for what the supply/demand is for most concerts in this area.

By the way...anyone know the capacity for Bender Arena at AU? It's been a while since that's been used for a show, right? Same thing with the Smith Center at GWU.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: sweetcell on July 29, 2009, 03:26:59 pm
By the way...anyone know the capacity for Bender Arena at AU? It's been a while since that's been used for a show, right? Same thing with the Smith Center at GWU.

last Bender show that i'm aware of was snow patrol/ok go/SSPU in march 2007.  i'd guestimate capacity to be in the 4,000 range.

edit: almost - according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bender_Arena, "Bender Arena has a 6,000 person capacity for concerts."
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 29, 2009, 04:46:54 pm
All I have to say on the subject is if natural Silver Spring shows are lost to DAR, I will boycott like you can't believe!
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 18, 2010, 09:05:37 am
I'm providing fair warning...  If you have something to say about Constitution Hall, then post it in this thread or risk it being deleted from another thread, especially the Just Announced thread.  I'll say it again, the regulars around here have heard all the complaints before, but if you must continue to beat that dead horse, post them them in this thread, on your blog, facebook, twitter, etc.
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Relaxer on February 18, 2010, 10:34:40 am
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Constitution Hall? More like Constitution Hell! More like Constipation Hole! More like...
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Relaxer on February 18, 2010, 10:36:04 am
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Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: hutch on February 18, 2010, 01:22:26 pm
I'm providing fair warning...  If you have something to say about Constitution Hall, then post it in this thread or risk it being deleted from another thread, especially the Just Announced thread.  I'll say it again, the regulars around here have heard all the complaints before, but if you must continue to beat that dead horse, post them them in this thread, on your blog, facebook, twitter, etc.

So what if the regulars have heard them?

Its not about the regulars, its about the 930 CLUB and IMP hearing it!

They want to book shows at DAR fine but they are going to have to hear it.

I don't suppose it bothers them too much as they count their money though so why does it bother you?
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on February 18, 2010, 01:54:32 pm
Its not about the regulars, its about the 930 CLUB and IMP hearing it!
Really? Because then you've just given the perfect reason to never post on the subject again because they've heard it even more then the regulars.

I don't suppose it bothers them too much as they count their money though so why does it bother you?
Well you kids' repetitive whining is tempered for them by the joy of counting their money, as you highlighted. The Kosmo's and Julian's of the world aren't making any money off it and therefore don't have any cash to count, so we have nothing to temper the dull, repetitive blather of DAR-related whining. Understand now?
Title: Re: Constitution Hall
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 18, 2010, 01:59:54 pm
Seeing as the regulars include Seth of IMP among others, I do believe they have made note of hutch's dislike of DAR.