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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on March 09, 2004, 06:28:00 pm
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Wondering who's going. I am having a devil of a time getting people to commit to a Monday night show.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Wondering who's going. I am having a devil of a time getting people to commit to a Monday night show.
I'd like to, but I can't.
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going
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i'm going... just ordered my ticket or else i would be likely to puss out at the last minute
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I am going.
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I'm going. Bags, come and hang out with us!
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I'm going too,,,just making sure someone I might know will be there. I'm gonna stop by and get a ticket tomorrow night -- anyone want me to pick one up, or are y'all confident it's not a sell out show?
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I'm going.
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Originally posted by Bags:
I'm going too,,,just making sure someone I might know will be there. I'm gonna stop by and get a ticket tomorrow night -- anyone want me to pick one up, or are y'all confident it's not a sell out show?
I've got my ticket. Thanks for offering, though! Glad you will be there.
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im going with a shaun ryder video and some ride cds for markie, i wonder what hes got for me :o
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hmmm. . .i probably won't be there. ooooh, intrigue. depends on how much money i spend in chicago this weekend during the st. patrick's day festival/parade.
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I am planning on being there!
Cheers
DJ Medusa
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count me in too.
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Yeah lily! If you know kurosawa, kosmo, lulu, pollard or mark, they can introduce us... Ditto skeeter.
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Saw them a couple of weeks ago for the first time and loved them. Anybody on the fence should definitely go. Thanks also for the heads up on Elefant and their new songs. I saw them Mon night in a small club after reading about their Velvet Lounge show and found them much improved and very entertaining.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Saw them a couple of weeks ago for the first time and loved them. Anybody on the fence should definitely go. Thanks also for the heads up on Elefant and their new songs. I saw them Mon night in a small club after reading about their Velvet Lounge show and found them much improved and very entertaining.
hey smackie, i found something just for you. . it's the avril lavigne secret mall tour. . .it will be in the bay area on april 9. but, they will announce the mall 2 days prior. i'm sure you'd enjoy that crowd.
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i know them all (assumming that pollard is he who is known by m---- in real life) so yes indeedie, we can finally meet. did you still want the damien rice cds?
Originally posted by Bags:
Yeah lily! If you know kurosawa, kosmo, lulu, pollard or mark, they can introduce us... Ditto skeeter.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
hey smackie, i found something just for you. . it's the avril lavigne secret mall tour. . .it will be in the bay area on april 9. but, they will announce the mall 2 days prior. i'm sure you'd enjoy that crowd. [/b]
Oh, I've already got that day off!
I'm surprised nobody asked asked me what I thought of Britney at the Oak Colisseum last night....she was fantastic, thank you very much!
There are so many shows here that I'm a bit overwhelmed. These are the show I'm considering (among others):
Thu 03/11/04 The Mother Truckers Slims
Thu 03/11/04 Pretty Girls Make Graves Bottom Of The Hill
Thu 03/11/04 Elvis Costello The Warfield
Mon 03/15/04 Berlin The Pleased The Psychedelic Furs Slim's
Tue 03/16/04 Har Mar Superstar Yeah Yeah Yeahs The Fillmore
Wed 03/17/04 Har Mar Superstar Yeah Yeah Yeahs The Fillmore
Thu 03/18/04 The Jealous Sound Switchfoot Fillmore
Sat 03/20/04 Fishbone The Independent
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Sat 03/20/04 Dropkick Murphys The Warfield
Thu 03/25/04 Calla Cooper Temple Clause The Independent
Fri 03/26/04 The Von Bondies Great American Music Hall
Fri 03/26/04 The Church Slim's
Sat 03/27/04 The Breeders Slims
Sat 03/27/04 The Saw Doctors Bimbo's 365 Club
Sat 03/27/04 The Frames Damien Rice The Warfield
Thu 04/01/04 The Romantics Great American Music Hall
Sat 04/03/04 The Mars Volta Bill Graham Civic Aud.
Sat 04/03/04 Young Dubliners Oyster & Beer Festival
Sun 04/04/04 Van Morrison Nob Hill Masonic Auditorium
Wed 04/07/04 Raveonettes Bottom Of The Hill
Wed 04/07/04 Modest Mouse The Fillmore
Fri 04/09/04 Avril Lavigne's "Top Secret Mall Tour" TBA
Sat 04/10/04 The Juliana Theory Slim's
Sun 04/11/04 The Living End The Vines Jet The Warfield
Thu 04/15/04 The Offspring The Warfield
Thu 04/22/04 The Subdudes Great American Music Hall
Sat 04/24/04 X Slims
Mon 04/26/04 Method Man The Fillmore
Thu 04/29/04 Black Rebel Motorcycle Club The Rapture Grand Ballroom
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Originally posted by lily1:
(assumming that pollard is he who is known by m---- in real life)
tis me
although you seemed to have added an extra -, unless I am known as madge in real life
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Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Oh, how many diseased corpses would I trample to go to that show?
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when will franz ferdinand come east to dc?
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Wow, smack. That's some good stuff (and Rhett wonders how we can have a list of 20 - 30 "to see" shows, not that I make them all, but they're on the 'interested' list).
Sat 04/10/04 The Juliana Theory Slim's
As a heads up, expect the Britney crowd. I have a friend who's a fan and gave me one or two albums (I had no idea what their deal was), so I went to see them with her at 9:30. Wow, we may have been two of the ten folks at the show (of only about 100-150, by the way) who could buy a drink legally. They were okay, but kind of cheezy. As it's a Sat night, not sure you want to use it for them. But, it could be fun, what the hell.
Sat 03/20/04 Fishbone The Independent
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
So does this means all three are playing? If that's the case, mother of god -- how much fun!!?!!
Wed 04/07/04 Raveonettes Bottom Of The Hill
I found their show really boring. Maybe they've gotten better; I saw them when just the EP was out. Won't catch them when they come through DC...
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Alas, Lily, that show is in San Francisco.
But shouldn't they come through here eventually??!!?
Originally posted by lily1:
oh hell yeah! black cat, i'm guessing?
when did that get announced?
Originally posted by mark e smith:
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Oh, how many diseased corpses would I trample to go to that show?
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just caught that it was part of smackie's list. my bad.
but yes, me thinks they needed to fire up the econline van and come east.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Oh, how many diseased corpses would I trample to go to that show?
You're telling me......
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Originally posted by Bags:
Wow, smack. That's some good stuff (and Rhett wonders how we can have a list of 20 - 30 "to see" shows, not that I make them all, but they're on the 'interested' list).
I purposely left the 4 times the Old 97's are playing here off the list to see if Rhett would double check my "math".
Sat 04/10/04 The Juliana Theory Slim's
As a heads up, expect the Britney crowd. I have a friend who's a fan and gave me one or two albums (I had no idea what their deal was), so I went to see them with her at 9:30. Wow, we may have been two of the ten folks at the show (of only about 100-150, by the way) who could buy a drink legally.
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Oy, Bags, that's why I'm going!
Sat 03/20/04 Fishbone The Independent
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
So does this means all three are playing? If that's the case, mother of god -- how much fun!!?!!
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My bad. The Franz show w/ the Tyde is at Slims. Fishbone is at the Independent.
Wed 04/07/04 Raveonettes Bottom Of The Hill
I found their show really boring. Maybe they've gotten better; I saw them when just the EP was out. Won't catch them when they come through DC...
My only other option is to see them open for the Strokes a week later so I thought I would check the warm-up show with just them. We'll see.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
There are so many shows here that I'm a bit overwhelmed. These are the show I'm considering (among others):
you should also check out this one:
march 30- sun kil moon at great american music hall.
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go to the frames and damien rice. do not miss that show. smackie, if you need frames or damien rice stuff let me know. i've got tons of it at home. alot of the frames import stuff and then live damien rice.
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modest mouse, of course
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Originally posted by lily1:
go to the frames and damien rice. do not miss that show. smackie, if you need frames or damien rice stuff let me know. i've got tons of it at home. alot of the frames import stuff and then live damien rice.
Thanks for your offer, Lily. Smackette loves the Frames. She has taken all of my CD's. I just recently picked up "Setlist" (the live Dublin CD) and I haven't even had a chance to listen to it because she's had since we got home from Ameoba. We won't be missing that show.
I think Damien Rice is available on Napster so I'll download it and check it out.
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smackie you utter bastard............
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
smackie you utter bastard............
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Hey lulu....you've been busy at work, haven't you?
I checked FF's website (That's Franz Ferdinand, not Foo Fighters :D ); they're not coming near D.C. ?????
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
smackie you utter bastard............
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
Ahhh, Lulu, you're too sweet. I love you too.
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Well then my math only shows four shows I would go to out there. Actually, just one Old 97's show would be satisfactory.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Bags:
Wow, smack. That's some good stuff (and Rhett wonders how we can have a list of 20 - 30 "to see" shows, not that I make them all, but they're on the 'interested' list).
I purposely left the 4 times the Old 97's are playing here off the list to see if Rhett would double check my "math".
Sat 04/10/04 The Juliana Theory Slim's
As a heads up, expect the Britney crowd. I have a friend who's a fan and gave me one or two albums (I had no idea what their deal was), so I went to see them with her at 9:30. Wow, we may have been two of the ten folks at the show (of only about 100-150, by the way) who could buy a drink legally.
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Oy, Bags, that's why I'm going!
Sat 03/20/04 Fishbone The Independent
Sat 03/20/04 Franz Ferdinand w/ The Tyde The Independent
So does this means all three are playing? If that's the case, mother of god -- how much fun!!?!!
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My bad. The Franz show w/ the Tyde is at Slims. Fishbone is at the Independent.
Wed 04/07/04 Raveonettes Bottom Of The Hill
I found their show really boring. Maybe they've gotten better; I saw them when just the EP was out. Won't catch them when they come through DC...
My only other option is to see them open for the Strokes a week later so I thought I would check the warm-up show with just them. We'll see. [/b]
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Nevermind, I'm having a rough go of the board today. My monitor is on the fritz and I can't see athe color red in my RGB scheme. It's brutal.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
you should also check out this one:
march 30- sun kil moon at great american music hall.
I should have stated that some shows have been removed due to my schedule. I saw that show but unfortunately I will be in LA Mar 29-31.
You know how it is, when you live in a world that revolves around, well, you.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
You know how it is, when you live in a world that revolves around, well, you.
i know exactly how that is smackie..............but how exactly does that affect you...........?
i'm confused
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
i know exactly how that is smackie..............but how exactly does that affect you...........?
i'm confused
Gosh I miss the wit of you and Markie.
Just Monday at the Elefant show I was heckling the opening band, The Pleased, for being gawd awful and looking like a bad Tim Curry in Rocky Horror and the SF crowd was looking at me like I'm a freak. The lead singer was just a complete tool. He kept playing with the mic like he was Tim Curry from Rocky Horror (or maybe he was trying to be Diego from Elefant) and at one point the top half of the mic stand slid down into the bottom half because he slammed the stand down so hard. He couldn't get it out so he had to finish the song out on his knee so he could play guitar and sing the song.
So the club tech guy/roadie waits in between songs to go up there and fix it and the lead singer yells at him (mind you this is the Pleased's equipment, not the clubs) and I started telling the lead singer to stop acting like and ass and these things won't happen. The crowd just stood their in awe like "nodoby talks to the band". They were terrible and didn't even play their best song - "Another Disaster".
Anyhow, when I was chatting up Elefant between songs Diego was stoked and offered me one of those coveted Jadetree hugs, but I passed and the gay guy next to me got it instead. I don't care if you are a local band, your respect is earned.
Guess which one I'm talking about in this pic:
<img src="http://www.thepleased.com/visual/images/031023_nyc/IMG_4010.jpg" alt=" - " />
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So what makes heckling a band so cool? Seems pretty juvenile to me.
I mean, the crowd was probably looking at you thinking what an ass you were, not looking at you in awe or anything like that.
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Originally posted by Ballster:
So what makes heckling a band so cool? Seems pretty juvenile to me.
Who said anything about it being cool? I didn't.
I was defending the stage hand and letting the Pleased know that despite everybody's back being to you and chatting throughout your gawd awful performance, some of us are here to see you too (even own the album) and that you should give a little better effort. I'm sorry that Elefant isn't quite Berlin and The Psych Furs (who they are also opening for), but with an effort like this you should be lucky they haven't dropped you.
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Originally posted by Ballster:
Seems pretty juvenile to me.
that's probably why it's cool................. :D
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Originally posted by Ballster:
I mean, the crowd was probably looking at you thinking what an ass you were, not looking at you in awe or anything like that.
I said "the crowd was looking at me like I was freak." That in no way connotates awe.
They were content with just having this awful background noise on while they sipped their pints, chatted with their group and waited for Elefant.
I was hoping for more from The Pleased and I let them know it and I thought that Markie and Lulu would understand that.
Would it have been better if I just spit in the lead singer's face? Would that have been the adult thing to do?
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To me, it just seems disrespectful to heckle an artist, unless they themselves have done something personally disrespectful to you, the audience member.
I think it takes balls to get up on a stage and perform for people, and having balls doesn't deserve to be rewarded with derision, does it?
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Ballster:
I mean, the crowd was probably looking at you thinking what an ass you were, not looking at you in awe or anything like that.
I said "the crowd was looking at me like I was freak." That in no way connotates awe.
They were content with just having this awful background noise on while they sipped their pints, chatted with their group and waited for Elefant.
I was hoping for more from The Pleased and I let them know it and I thought that Markie and Lulu would understand that.
Would it have been better if I just spit in the lead singer's face? Would that have been the adult thing to do? [/b]
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i'm guessin' some of the boardies have block this from their memory but... The Pleased were the band that stunk up the stage when they played with Love at the Birchmere. heckling them is the least the audience probably wanted to do at the time :D
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I don't personally agree with heckling....but on the other hand, if a band makes no effort on stage for an audience who has paid to see them, then that audience has every right to voice their opinion.
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How do you judge whether a band is making "no effort though? Based on what Smackie said (below) and what Kosmo said, they obviously sucked, but are there really that many bands that bother to get up on stage and make "no effort"?
Just Monday at the Elefant show I was heckling the opening band, The Pleased, for being gawd awful and looking like a bad Tim Curry in Rocky Horror and the SF crowd was looking at me like I'm a freak. The lead singer was just a complete tool. He kept playing with the mic like he was Tim Curry from Rocky Horror (or maybe he was trying to be Diego from Elefant) and at one point the top half of the mic stand slid down into the bottom half because he slammed the stand down so hard. He couldn't get it out so he had to finish the song out on his knee so he could play guitar and sing the song.
Originally posted by mankie:
I don't personally agree with heckling....but on the other hand, if a band makes no effort on stage for an audience who has paid to see them, then that audience has every right to voice their opinion.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i'm guessin' some of the boardies have block this from their memory but... The Pleased were the band that stunk up the stage when they played with Love at the Birchmere. heckling them is the least the audience probably wanted to do at the time :D
oh my god i knew it sounded familiar............
they were lucky we were at the shushmere..............
tell me did the girly keyboardist have her heidi smock on?
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Originally posted by Ballster:
How do you judge whether a band is making "no effort though? Based on what Smackie said (below) and what Kosmo said, they obviously sucked, but are there really that many bands that bother to get up on stage and make "no effort"?
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I was referring more to this comment....
was defending the stage hand and letting the Pleased know that despite everybody's back being to you and chatting throughout your gawd awful performance, some of us are here to see you too (even own the album) and that you should give a little better effort. I'm sorry that Elefant isn't quite Berlin and The Psych Furs (who they are also opening for), but with an effort like this you should be lucky they haven't dropped you.
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Well how do you know the difference between whether a band is "making an effort", and whether they just plain suck? Why would they even bother showing up if they weren't going to make an effort? I can't imagine an opening act for Elefant would be doing the gig for the high pay involved.
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Originally posted by Ballster:
Well how do you know the difference between whether a band is "making an effort", and whether they just plain suck? Why would they even bother showing up if they weren't going to make an effort? I can't imagine an opening act for Elefant would be doing the gig for the high pay involved.
Have you ever had one of those days were you just can't be arsed doing any work?
Well, I suppose musicians have them too.
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It is a live performance. I always presumed it was meant to be somewhat interactive. Otherwise I would sit home and play the CD.
I am sure if a band doesnt like the heckles they can ignore them or tell someone to shut up.
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Yes, I've had those days. But if people were actually watching me, my pride would prevent me from withholding effort.
And in a cuthroat field where there are thousands of bands vying for a finite amount of the pie, not putting forth effort would kill a career rather quickly. It's not like they are gov't workers, where jobs are secure and nobody else wants the job anyway.
Originally posted by mankie:
QUOTE]Have you ever had one of those days were you just can't be arsed doing any work?
Well, I suppose musicians have them too. [/QB]
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Originally posted by Ballster:
Yes, I've had those days. But if people were actually watching me, my pride would prevent me from withholding effort.
And in a cuthroat field where there are thousands of bands vying for a finite amount of the pie, not putting forth effort would kill a career rather quickly. It's not like they are gov't workers, where jobs are secure and nobody else wants the job anyway.
Originally posted by mankie:
QUOTE]Have you ever had one of those days were you just can't be arsed doing any work?
Well, I suppose musicians have them too. [/b]
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How many bands have you seen multiple times?
Were their performances identical each time or were some better than others?
I've seen Badly Drawn Boy three times, the second time was pretty weak...on that tour a friend of mine saw him in Dublin. BDB made the comment in Dublin that he had just returned from his US part of the tour and that he'd put out some crap performances, and that he felt bad for the American audiences but he was just homesick so couldn't get into it.
Does that make him a bad musician...your personal opinions of him aside, I'm just using that as an example.
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Whatever.
I've had bad days at work where I didn't give 100% effort. Thankfully, neither my co-workers, boss, nor people that I interacted with chose to heckle me...
Oh wait, they did...when I taught math to 12 year olds.
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Originally posted by Ballster:
Oh wait, they did...when I taught math to 12 year olds.
And that is why you quit teaching?
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
oh my god i knew it sounded familiar............
they were lucky we were at the shushmere..............
tell me did the girly keyboardist have her heidi smock on?
I knew you would understand. Seriously, of about 100 people in the room, I was one of about 10 people actually watching the performance after the second song (and these guys are from SF!!!) and the antics of the lead singer were causing most of the problems. Even the band members weren't facing him after a couple more songs, and that never happens. But when he lit up the roadie guy, I had had enough of him and gave it back. I wasn't ruining other concert goers experience, I was just letting the guy know that he was half assing it and I knew it. The album is not bad (I listened to it again yesterday to make sure I wasn't going nuts), but live this performance was terrible, but damnit I paid my money and wasn't going to stand for a shitty performance. I suppose I just could have gone on with my business like the rest of the crowd, but like Markie said, I could have stayed home and listened to the CD and not bought a ticket if I wanted to do that.
Unfortunately, I'm seeing them again next week when they open for the Furs. I was going to pass on them but now I'm tempted to go to see if I just got them on an off night. From the reviews of the Hushmere show, maybe these guys just suck live. But now that I know, I won't heckle because I (a) know they suck now and won't be expecting much and (b) I chose to go knowing that they suck. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.....
As for the attire of the Keyboardist/Clapper (let's be honest, she claps more than she plays keyboards), jeans and a white blouse, off the shoulder, with red cowboy boots (jeans tucked into the boots) and bright red lipsick).
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I've had bad days at work where I didn't give 100% effort.
really? doesn't seem to fit my image of you as a hard working government type :D
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have we decided if they're going to sell out or not? cause I want to go to this show but I hate buying tickets in advance...
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I'm getting a ticket tonight...I'm not sure it will sell out (I hope it doesn't, I'm getting worse and worse with big crowds as the weeks much less the years crawl forward...), but I think there's a chance. I've heard a lot of folks mention it, *off* the board.
But, it's a Monday night. Worst night of the week for a show...I'm getting a ticket to force myself to go. ;)
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gr. I'm trying to get the bf to go. but I'm pretty sure he won't if it's a sold out show/we can't get tickets that night. you're welcome to buy us tickets bags :D I'll give you a hug in return :p
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It certainly wasn't close to selling out last time they played the Black Cat. And I think it was a Friday or Saturday.
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Originally posted by Samantha:
gr. I'm trying to get the bf to go.
Didn't you say you were done with men recently?
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Samantha:
gr. I'm trying to get the bf to go.
Didn't you say you were done with men recently? [/b]
I think she said she did men recently.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Samantha:
gr. I'm trying to get the bf to go.
Didn't you say you were done with men recently? [/b]
Is anyone who loves men *really* done with men ever?? ;)
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Samantha:
gr. I'm trying to get the bf to go.
Didn't you say you were done with men recently? [/b]
I would NEVER say that :eek:
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Don't worry too much about Franz Ferdinand playing DC. They just signed with some big US label only the other day. They'll be here before you know it. (Sorry if it's already posted and I haven't caught up with it yet.)
Smackie, forget The Ravonettes. They are minorly good for about 2 or 3 songs and then you've heard them all. Just stay home and play the CD while you take a nap. It will be more rewarding. Don't even worry about missing Sharon, or whatever her name is. Granted, she's attractive but she's much nicer looking in her pictures.
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So, any opinions on Kaito UK?
Kaito U.K.
Band Red
[SpinArt; 2003]
Rating: 7.8
The interplay between Kaito U.K. vocalist Nikki Colk and her three bandmates-- who collectively tease out hyper, occasionally erratic backbeats and loads of weird, crashing melodies-- is always playfully confrontational. Colk's nonsensical lyrics are more about their visceral, phonetic sounds than any potential narratives, and that kind of terse, internal tension can be both frustrating and exhilarating all at once. To amp up the semantic agitation, Colk's mumbled delivery is also been padded by a mess of extraneous yelps and growls that, while adding texture to her band's art-punk noisescapes, usually have little-to-no affiliation with the words she's hollering.
The result is Kaito U.K.'s sophomore effort, Band Red, a record full of disorientating (but mostly thrilling) bursts: Colk barks and warbles, each of her high-strung, shrieky proclamations practically indiscernible from Dave Lake's pinched guitar zaps. It's perpetually unclear as to whether the proper reaction is to patent a new, kicky dance move or to twitch and grimace, but that question's inherent to Kaito's game, and it's a big part of what makes this record so much fun to yap along with.
Opener "Enemyline" is full of energetic guitar jabbing and unintelligible vocals, Colt and Lake's joint poking augmented by what sounds like a layer of mixed-down screams; the song flip-flops between quiet and loud (as post-Pixies bands are prone to do), but even "Enemyline"'s sparser bits are heavy with the threat of total implosion. When Kaito U.K. slip away from their blustery noisemaking, like on the excellent, organ-filled "Nothin' New", they prove themselves capable of rolling out the kinds of foggy, wide-eyed laments that can sit perfectly alongside big punk blasts. Still, the band is at its best when indulging adrenaline: "A.S.A. to Accuracy" is the record's most aggressive track, with two vague, fuzzy guitar lines fighting for supremacy, blood splattering the amps.
What ultimately saves Band Red from been-there tedium (check the ground already covered by Liliput, Erase Errata, even Deerhoof) is Kaito U.K.'s instinctual bend toward sticky melodies-- their tendency to temper their noise with surprisingly sugary pop hooks and wormy choruses is what keeps these songs from becoming pretentious or tiresome. So even if jumpy, fitful art-punk isn't particularly groundbreaking right now, Kaito U.K. are still playing the shiny pop card with previously unseen flair-- no matter how delightfully splintered Band Red can seem, there are always solid tunes lurking beneath the spits and flutters.
-Amanda Petrusich, September 9th, 2003
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set times? opener at 9.30, bsp at 10.30? earlier? later?
not sure on this opener, what bags posted isn't making me want to rush over to the club, perhaps arrive halfway thru their set will be my plan.
bags, will copy cd for you and bring tonight. sorry about the live stuff. i have no clue how the cd got so f'd up.
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http://www.boces.demon.co.uk/index2.htm (http://www.boces.demon.co.uk/index2.htm)
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Kaito U.K.
Band Red
[SpinArt; 2003]
Rating: 7.8
They's get a 3.8 if their name was Kaito Americana. Run of the mill indie bands get a 7.8, run of the mill Americana bands get a 3.8 (or no mention at all)
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sounds fair to me.
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Originally posted by lily1:
set times? opener at 9.30, bsp at 10.30? earlier? later?
not sure on this opener, what bags posted isn't making me want to rush over to the club, perhaps arrive halfway thru their set will be my plan.
I agree, they don't sound appealing to me at all. I may arrive around 9:30 and hang in the red room for a bit.
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I think I will give the opener a chance.
Anyone who went last time, did they play anything unusual/covers? I really like their version of tugboat. The Galaxie 500 song from the 25 years of Rough Trade compilation.
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Awww, my own little copycat. I was waiting for you to co-op my name, which I co-op'd from my main man Thurston Moore.
Originally posted by Thirsty J Balls:
Kaito U.K.
Band Red
[SpinArt; 2003]
Rating: 7.8
They's get a 3.8 if their name was Kaito Americana. Run of the mill indie bands get a 7.8, run of the mill Americana bands get a 3.8 (or no mention at all)
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they played the songs from the cd along with lovely day tomorrow (shite song), but if you go to the website it seems they are being a little bit more crazy on this tour, so it should be a great show.
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I am listening to the BSP album again, and I hope they don't play the 13 minute plus Lately.
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they do which is great as that is my fav track, dont worry its very good live.
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Originally posted by bungle bud:
they do which is great as that is my fav track, dont worry its very good live.
I think I have seen it, they played it when they opened for somebody here right?
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So are you guys going to try to meet up tonight? I'll probably be there around 9:30. I'll be the guy in the baseball cap :D
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
So are you guys going to try to meet up tonight? I'll probably be there around 9:30. I'll be the guy in the baseball cap :D
What kind?
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Yeah, what kind? I'm meeting up in the Red Room at 9:30...have no idea what I'll be wearing. According to Rhett, look for the obvious potty mouth...(although it's a Monday, I'll be dialed to a 5 or 6 at the most...)
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Most likely a Penn State hat. Or maybe a nascar hat.
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wish I could go...damn family...let me know how it goes :D
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What a great show... those guys really have it togehter. The extra drummer was a nice touch, as was the assorted foliage onstage. I'm really impressed.
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WHAT??!!
SPEAK UP A BIT PLEASE!!
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
WHAT??!!
SPEAK UP A BIT PLEASE!!
True, couldn't tell a damn thing the guy was saying, but the owl, man. The owl.
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It was a solid show, I think I enjoyed them opening for The Libertines slightly more, but that could have been the surprise factor, although I think they were a little more lively that night as well.
Others seemed to really dislike the opener, while I did not think they were great, I think they have some potential, I enjoyed them.
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was it just me or did the show seem to have peaks and valleys. some stuff sounded great, and other stuff sounded monontous(sp?)?
thanks bags and kosmo for the cds. most kind of you.
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
True, couldn't tell a damn thing the guy was saying, but the owl, man. The owl.
The singer was fine, it's just that it was so loud. I can't hear very well today.
What a great band. Consistently excellent shows.
Skeeter, I thought I spotted you -- in the back to the right of the soundboard. I was going to say "hey" but it seemed pointless to attempt to converse while Kaito was playing and when they finished you had apparently moved.
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Originally posted by pollard:
Others seemed to really dislike the opener, while I did not think they were great, I think they have some potential, I enjoyed them.
Gotta say, I'm not sure how well they fit as an opener for BSP, but I really liked their music. They'd probably get a better reception touring with another grrl band, though. I liked the singer's voice and thought it was fun stuff.
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I skipped the opener, as I do so often (I'm not proud, not proud...). Heard they were not good and WAY loud. Well, BSP was WAY loud as well. I do not know how you folks stand up front right next to the speakers... I was halfway back, standing up on that little riser beside the bar that's always closed, so had really good sight lines.
Fantastic; I'd heard it was a great show, but it was more than I expected (it's hard to dazzle me on a Monday, as well). The music was so full, yet so tight at the same time. According to Kurosawa, this was not their most energetic show -- it *is* near the end of the tour. All I can say is wow, a full-on BSP night must be silly sick. A lot of fun -- great to meet lily and bungle, though I didn't get to chat much...next time.
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Originally posted by lily1:
thanks bags and kosmo for the cds. most kind of you.
Thank YOU, though it did come kind of late....
:D
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Originally posted by Bags:
I do not know how you folks stand up front right next to the speakers...
Ear plugs! Personally, I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your hearing. Music doesn't have to be that loud to be appreciated.
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
Originally posted by Bags:
I do not know how you folks stand up front right next to the speakers...
Ear plugs! Personally, I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your hearing. Music doesn't have to be that loud to be appreciated. [/b]
I've tried earplugs a couple times and they drive me CRAZY. Are there better ones than those you buy at the club? I gotta start though, I am so going to be deaf or have tinninitis (sp?) -- I've got a slight ringing going on right now...
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Originally posted by Bags:
I've tried earplugs a couple times and they drive me CRAZY. Are there better ones than those you buy at the club?
Try looking at CVS. I got some that come in their own carrying case-- they're white people skin colored and they're just little foam thingeys. They work swell and since they have a tiny little carry case I can keep them in my bag... If you're really concerned, CVS also carries the airline worker style bright orange ones. But hey, you don't want to block out all noise, do you??
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http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.asp (http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.asp)
I use this style of earplugs at every show. Excellent frequency response. They don't distort the sound much at all. Way better than that foam crap they sell at the club. Well worth the $12.
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Originally posted by SomethingMild:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.asp (http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.asp)
I use this style of earplugs at every show. Excellent frequency response. They don't distort the sound much at all. Way better than that foam crap they sell at the club. Well worth the $12.
That's awesome. I will get some -- the foam plugs you get at BC or 9:30 take so much bass & drums away, so then I end up putting them in so shallowly...I've bought the same kind from CVS for a camping trip, and -- yuck.
I hope, hope I can learn to love the ER-20s...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Skeeter, I thought I spotted you -- in the back to the right of the soundboard. I was going to say "hey" but it seemed pointless to attempt to converse while Kaito was playing and when they finished you had apparently moved.
That was probably me. I had enough of them after 3 songs and went downstairs.
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The earplugs at the clubs do suck, but they're better than nothing. I think I got one of the last pair in that little machine last night. BSP was LOUD, even with the plugs.
I need to get my hearing checked. My ears have been ringing an awful lot lately.
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
but the owl, man. The owl.
I got to meet the owl after the show! One of the drummers kindly brought him over after I mentioned how much I liked him (the owl or the drummer - you decide [j/k]). ;) The *one* night I didn't bring my camera!
Overall the gig was great! It was the first time I'd seen them and actually, I like their sound better live than recorded. I thought "Fear Of Drowning" in particular was excellent.
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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:eek:
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it was a really good night...........another excellent performance from bsp......
i wish he'd taken his shoes off earlier though i like the mad, hopping whirly dances that are apparently hindered by footwear..............
i thoroughly hated the non inspired, cliche grrrrl pop that was the support band though........
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most ear plugs are very very uncomfortable. i always feel like i have pressure in my ears and its somewhat painful. i've tried at least 4 different brands. eckerd has a decent selection of them.
i've found that the coated foam ones are the most comfortable rathar than the straight foams ones that are not tapered.
Originally posted by Bags:
I've tried earplugs a couple times and they drive me CRAZY. Are there better ones than those you buy at the club? I gotta start though, I am so going to be deaf or have tinninitis (sp?) -- I've got a slight ringing going on right now...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
:eek:
I remebered to leave it at home.
Today I am listening to the whole delgados backcatologue on repeat shuffle.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Today I am listening to the whole delgados backcatologue on repeat shuffle.
I'm a very lucky, grateful girl, so I am as well (though not on shuffle....)
:)
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don't mess with eddie
<img src="http://www.netsector.com/tony/maiden/pics/band/mhcover.jpg" alt=" - " />
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thanks kosmo,bags and markie for the cds, it seems like everytime i see kosmo he gives me a cd. kosmo if you are at the delgados show i will buy you a beer, this will be the second time i have brought a beer for someone in the past 7 years.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
don't mess with eddie
Oh yeah, thanks Eddie.....
BTW, whenever I think of Eddie, I dont think Maiden, I think:
<img src="http://www.surfsupnet.plus.com/meatloaf/images/eddie.jpg" alt=" - " />
Thanks for the CDs Bags and Bungle and Kosmo/Eddie.
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oh yeah markie i had to make three turns to get out of dc, simple enough eh....dont ask 45-50 mins to get to the black cat, a lot lot longer than that to get home, i had to stop and ask a um er b person the way
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Originally posted by bungle bud:
this will be the second time i have brought a beer for someone in the past 7 years.
WOW, if I had known that.....
Kidding. Same thing happened to me -- I showed up at Jag's birthday and was inundated with CDs, some from folks I hadn't even met yet (yeah, you Brennser). Very cool group of music lovers -- Kurosawa remembered I loved Idlewild (and was a new fan!).
Now, if I only had music y'all didn't! ;) At least I can keep giving Markie stuff he'll hate.
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
Originally posted by Bags:
I do not know how you folks stand up front right next to the speakers...
Ear plugs! Personally, I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your hearing. Music doesn't have to be that loud to be appreciated. [/b]
There's no reason for bands to play so loud you need earplugs, unless your band is so shite you're trying to compensate for it with distortion of course.
I know I'll get the "old man" comments, but I've never understood why they have to have it so loud. One of the many things great about the 930 is they don't go overboard with the volume in my experience......unlke Nation.
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it is fun getting CDs from people on the board - I've been aurally overwhelmed since I started swapping stuff with people, and then you have generous people like Grotty hooking me up with Drive by Truckers and Chris Whitley stuff and I've never even met him
sorry I missed BSP last night - shamefully I had a ticket but I'm still getting over a bad cough/cold and didn't think a few hours of inhaling second-hand smoke would do me any good....
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Originally posted by brennser:
then you have generous people like Grotty hooking me up with Drive by Truckers and Chris Whitley stuff and I've never even met him
So then how does the exchange occur? Do you have a go-between?
It was a good show, sorry you missed it, but there will no doubt be more. Much of the baordie crew were right up at the stage; not my milieu (unless the crowd is quite thin, and the speakers aren't *that* loud...)
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So then how does the exchange occur? Do you have a go-between?
neither rain, nor wind, nor snow....
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Ha, so old school! ;)
That means you gave your address, your HOME address, out to someone on the board!? Whoa...
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
i thoroughly hated the non inspired, cliche grrrrl pop that was the support band though........
Agreed. They made me want to eat my young!
The irony of the fact that the most discernible lyrics of their set consisted of "Shoot, shoot, shoot -- don't you want to kill me?" was certainly not lost on me.
BSP were great although a bit less animated (but louder) than when I saw them last November.
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now to add in my thoughts...
first off lovely to see some of the old boarders again (lulu, markie, ggw), and to meet bungle (thanks again for the setlist, i'll buy you a drink at the delgados!)
kurosawa was right, the show wasn't the most energetic i've seen them. probably the least emphatic of the three times i've been lucky enough to see them. but they're wonderful and pretty and we have a love of foliage in common, so a girl really can't complain too much.
oh, and earplugs are oh so helpful in keeping one's hearing whilst standing in the front row. i highly recommend them.
so who's going to see what shows next? :p
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wow, there were a lot of folks at this show!
I'm definitely going to Decemberists next Tuesday, Broken Social Scene Thursday and Delgados the following Tuesday (and Washington Social Club that Friday, April 2). I'm hitting all these shows in time for the openers, so maybe I'll get some chat time in.
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thanksfully the delgados have openers worth arriving early for...
Originally posted by Bags:
wow, there were a lot of folks at this show!
I'm definitely going to Decemberists next Tuesday, Broken Social Scene Thursday and Delgados the following Tuesday (and Washington Social Club that Friday, April 2). I'm hitting all these shows in time for the openers, so maybe I'll get some chat time in.
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Originally posted by Bags:
I'm definitely going to Decemberists next Tuesday, Broken Social Scene Thursday and Delgados the following Tuesday (and Washington Social Club that Friday, April 2). I'm hitting all these shows in time for the openers, so maybe I'll get some chat time in.
I'm hitting all of these, minus Delgados. I tried to buy WSC tickets at the club the other night, but was told they weren't in the system. hrmph.
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
minus Delgados.
Big mistake.
The delgados were just about my favourite album and show of last year. They were fantastic live. It was the best the blackcat PA has ever sounded.
Plus Malcolm Middleton, the guy from Arab Strap is the support.
I couldnt recommend this show any more highly.
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I recently got an Arab Strap album from CD Game Exchange for 53 cents, and god that guy can't sing. What a grating voice.
BallCage
Mindless Balls
Deep8 Productions
Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Skeeter:
minus Delgados.
Big mistake.
The delgados were just about my favourite album and show of last year. They were fantastic live. It was the best the blackcat PA has ever sounded.
Plus Malcolm Middleton, the guy from Arab Strap is the support.
I couldnt recommend this show any more highly. [/b]
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Originally posted by BallCage:
I recently got an Arab Strap album from CD Game Exchange for 53 cents, and god that guy can't sing. What a grating voice.
Perhaps you should stick to american idol, if all you are looking for is a pretty voice.
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i'm with ballcage on this one and i listen to plenty of "unpretty" voices... if he were american then you'd dismiss him along with wilco or something.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
if he were american then you'd dismiss him along with wilco or something.
No not at all. If he were French I would compare him to Serge Gainsbourg.
The singer of wilco does have an Ok voice, doesnt he? I think you went off on a bit of a tangent there, Kosmo.
I am not the biggest arab strap fan, not by a long shot. But some of the bleak songs capture Scotland and the Scottish mentality so beautifully. You know I am always moaning, but you kick start my seratonin..... is a pretty good throw away line. I think his rough gravelly drone sounds perfect for that song. It would sound stupid sung by Mariah Carey or Mary J. Bilge.
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just a little fiesty after two nights of too little sleep... i'll be a lot fiesty tomorrow after a third night in a row :D
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just so facts are straight, there are two singers for Arab Strap
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Originally posted by pollard:
just so facts are straight, there are two singers for Arab Strap
But that is like trying to tell Mick Jones and Joe Strummer apart on Clash recordings, isn't it?
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
But that is like trying to tell Mick Jones and Joe Strummer apart on Clash recordings, isn't it?
they are very similar, but they probably sound the same because they are not really singing as much as talking along with the music
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Aidan Moffat (who does most of the singing)
<img src="http://www.arabstrap.co.uk/content/eng/img/biography/malcolm.jpg" alt=" - " />
Malcolm Middleton (who does most of the music and occaionally sings)
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Skeeter:
minus Delgados.
Big mistake.
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Probably. Can't do it all though. Maybe next time.
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The Washington Times
Mighty Sea Power
By Scott Galupo
Published March 17, 2004
British Sea Power, an indie-rock quintet from England's northwest coast, may have named its premiere album "The Decline of British Sea Power," but at the Black Cat on Monday night, the band brought peak empire muscle -- the kind that could still burn down the White House.
The surname-shunning boys of BSP -- frontman Yan, lead-guitarist Noble, bassist Hamilton, drummer Wood and keyboardist Eamon -- played for an hour to a smallish audience of nonplussed yet captivated Yanks.
Before the band appeared, a roadie spent several minutes carefully festooning the set with vegetation, plus a spooky-looking stuffed owl.
BSP followed, with Yan looking deadly serious, like he was walking into the Treaty of Ghent. Yet during the Joy Division-y stomp of "Apologies to Insect Life," Eamon strapped on a snare drum and began hopping around as though he'd joined a mosh-pit drum line.
On post-punk left-fielders such as "Carrion" and "Favours in the Beetroot Fields," it was useless trying to figure out what was bugging Yan, who sings in an earnest rasp not unlike that of Collective Soul's Ed Roland. I'm guessing he's a European history buff with a taste for mythological literature.
"Replacing Hercules with the heroic sounds of Formby/Remove the tunics touch, stood aside from the putsch," he sang on "Lately."
BSP hopes you have your library card handy.
"Spirit of St. Louis" suggested the band isn't completely humorless, merging Charles Lindbergh's famous flying machine with the Kingsmen's garage classic "Louie Louie."
Lyrical curios aside, British Sea Power merited a trip across the Atlantic based on its reputation as an exciting live act. Monday's performance didn't disappoint in that regard.
BSP is tight. Wood is a pneumatic powerhouse; the guitars are jagged and punky, but Yan's melodies are easily chewable, if not quite up to the standards of the brothers Gallagher or Brit-songwriter-of-the-moment Chris Martin.
The only thing that will stop this band from attaining broad popularity here is its obscurantism.
Put simply, British Sea Power might just be too weird.
But maybe we could all use a little weirdness in our rock lives. Maybe we could use a few head-tilters, like this line from BSP's "The Lonely": "Just like Liberace/I will return to haunt you with peculiar piano riffs."