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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on August 16, 2009, 01:19:37 am
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Just got back..curious if anyone else from the forum went and thoughts?
Second set was enjoyable.. They played "Oh Sweet Nothin" which I really enjoyed...
Crowd was very very drunk and stoned....seeemed like a lot of people got in the pit area by having friends get them in by taking out two tickets.. You could hardly get to your seats...
Pretty young crowd..looked like a new generation...
Got out of parking lot in 5 minutes tops...
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Setlist looks bland.
A friend of mine who went came back bitching.
Still, I bet it was way more fun than Bat For Lashes' melodramatic bullshit which I endured. At least it was short and she had a good opener.
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word around the phish table was that this was the "meh" show of the tour. after hartford, which was considered the "omfg" show of the late summer run, this setlist consisted of a lot of new material and songs they haven't played yet or stuff they wanted to try out. some flubs were apparent i heard and yes the crowd was "less than desirable." blame it on the merriweather cops who DO NOT fuck around, but i blame it on the fans period; they are what killed phish the last time . . . and i see the 2.0 generation is following in their (fuck you/it's all about me and my high) footsteps. it is no wonder that phish does not cover the dead. the dead fanbase was a loving commune that treated others with respect and helped each other out if the need saw fit. of course the dead generation wasn't raised on rap music, violent video games, and fox news.
i had lawn seats but gave them up . . . because after hampton, i knew it wouldn't compare . . . and it looks like i was right. here's hoping festival 8 will be a blast.
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Still, I bet it was way more fun than Bat For Lashes' melodramatic bullshit which I endured. At least it was short and she had a good opener.
Knowing the type of music you seem to enjoy, not sure why you went to this show. I thought it was great, but I enjoy "melodramatic bullshit" far more than some of the "over the top improv crap" you seem to enjoy. Just preferences I guess. Next time you, and those annoyingly chatty sorority girls, should not go and save a ticket for someone who enjoys melodrama.
short rant is over...
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word around the phish table was that this was the "meh" show of the tour. after hartford, which was considered the "omfg" show of the late summer run, this setlist consisted of a lot of new material and songs they haven't played yet or stuff they wanted to try out. some flubs were apparent i heard and yes the crowd was "less than desirable." blame it on the merriweather cops who DO NOT fuck around, but i blame it on the fans period; they are what killed phish the last time . . . and i see the 2.0 generation is following in their (fuck you/it's all about me and my high) footsteps. it is no wonder that phish does not cover the dead. the dead fanbase was a loving commune that treated others with respect and helped each other out if the need saw fit. of course the dead generation wasn't raised on rap music, violent video games, and fox news.
i had lawn seats but gave them up . . . because after hampton, i knew it wouldn't compare . . . and it looks like i was right. here's hoping festival 8 will be a blast.
well I thought it was pretty good then again I was in the Orchestra pit and thats pretty darn close so you can really enjoy watching from there.... I think there is too much emphasis on setlists. .. if you like a band you're going to like the way they play and sound... The first set seemed weaker though but I did not notice much in the way of flubs..
It was very enjoyable hanging in the parking lot with friends drinking... cops couldn't have cared less which I was surprised about...it was a nice day for that and at least my friends and I did it right and thats a benefit of a Saturday show...
I kind of agree about the fanbase..
I'm not too crazy about Phish (hadn't seen them since Hampton/Winston-Salem in 1997) but I was more interested in opinions of others who were at show as compares to "I didnt go and I'm glad cause it sucked!"..:)..although there's room for that too!
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I'm not too crazy about Phish (hadn't seen them since Hampton/Winston-Salem in 1997) but I was more interested in opinions of others who were at show as compares to "I didnt go and I'm glad cause it sucked!"..:)
asking on this forum "hey did anybody go to the phish show, is like manimtired (i mean imamoose24) asking "who's going to see that racist?" ;D ;)
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I'm not too crazy about Phish (hadn't seen them since Hampton/Winston-Salem in 1997) but I was more interested in opinions of others who were at show as compares to "I didnt go and I'm glad cause it sucked!"..:)
asking on this forum "hey did anybody go to the phish show, is like manimtired (i mean imamoose24) asking "who's going to see that racist?" ;D ;)
Oh I see! I kind of figured that....
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I didn't say a word while she was on but ok.
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Man, you HATE people not liking music you love.
Still, I bet it was way more fun than Bat For Lashes' melodramatic bullshit which I endured. At least it was short and she had a good opener.
Knowing the type of music you seem to enjoy, not sure why you went to this show. I thought it was great, but I enjoy "melodramatic bullshit" far more than some of the "over the top improv crap" you seem to enjoy. Just preferences I guess. Next time you, and those annoyingly chatty sorority girls, should not go and save a ticket for someone who enjoys melodrama.
short rant is over...
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Dude's passionate about his Tori-lite, apparently.
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Dude's passionate about his Tori-lite, apparently.
Far from Tori-lite, some of the comparisons people stretch to make for BFL amazes me. But a lot of folks use Tori.
And yes, since there are honestly not many artists I am really passionate about, i tend to be a bit defensive about them.
And i wasn't accusing you of talking, simply all the blond sorority girls by the bar.
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see hutch, i told you. dedicate a thread to phish . . . and people with use it as an excuse to tallk about tori.
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i thought she sounded like a mix of tori and bjork when I saw her at Lollapalooza ;D
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I was planning on going but when I found out my friends were planning on getting there as gates opened, I had to pass considering the night before I knew would be very late.
I ended up at BFL too, yeah not really a show most would find me at either lol I thought she was good, reminded me a bit of Delerium without a lot of soundscape keyboard parts though. Vocals probably the most is what reminded me of Kristy Thirsk.
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I thought she was good, reminded me a bit of Delerium
BfL's voice reminds me of sarah mclachlan, so the delirium comparison makes sense (i only know their one song with her).
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I thought she was good, reminded me a bit of Delerium
BfL's voice reminds me of sarah mclachlan, so the delirium comparison makes sense (i only know their one song with her).
Here's Delerium performing the song you're thinking of but with the other two vocalist. This footage is from the 930 Club even :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMdpyWaC68o
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Could this (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2009/08/bat_for_lashes_live_last_night.html#more) have been more spot on?
I think not.
Well done, kind sir.
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Dude, redsock is gonna FREAK. Malitz, I'd watch your back!
Could this (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2009/08/bat_for_lashes_live_last_night.html#more) have been more spot on?
I think not.
Well done, kind sir.
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Dude, redsock is gonna FREAK. Malitz, I'd watch your back!
Could this (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2009/08/bat_for_lashes_live_last_night.html#more) have been more spot on?
I think not.
Well done, kind sir.
Malitz is ok in my book, and his referencing Kate Bush is pretty appropriate. A couple of her songs do drift, but they are short enough to not lose you in boredom. And I'm not sure how one can be intriguing but uninteresting? Doesn't make any sense...
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And I'm not sure how one can be intriguing but uninteresting? Doesn't make any sense...
malitz was being overly dramatic and self-indulgent with his writing sorta like... oh i dunno... bat for lashes? ;)
seriously tho, i'm guessing that he meant intriguing = momentary, something worth having a quick look at mostly because of novelty; vs. interesting = intrinsically worthy of one's sustained attention... but that's just a guess on my part.
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thread hijacked!!!!!!! :)
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Ponder this: Bat For Lashes threadjacks Phish.
edit: hutch beat me to it.
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
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hippy ;D
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
yeah, they're shit . . . that's why they have only been a band for 21 years, sold over 8 million "studio" albums (not including the number in millions of live show albums off their website), hosted 7 three day festivals where only they played, have sold out every single show they have ever played, no matter what the size of the venue, regularly played 10 months of the years every year for 10 - 15 years, have the respect of many bands and guitar players from all genres of music ranging from bluegrass/country/rock/indie/rap, had their tickets scalped for as much as $1000 for just 1 of their shows, are only four people who can create such a sound that they do, are a jam band who have never covered a single dead song, rolling stone magazine called them the "most important band of the nineties," have a ben and jerry's ice named after them which donates part of the proceeds to a vermont charity, each band member formed their own succesful side project (some two), have songs on rock band video game, have a tickets by mail order process thus bypassing ticketmaster and livenation, have fan-run charitable organizations dedicated to music education for children which have announced two $5,000 grants a year, all members are mental giants who all have their doctorates, have received a lifetime acheivement award, a cult following in the millions by now that will tour with them no matter where they go, be it anywhere in the states or other countries, been on the simpsons.
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
LOL do you hipsters need to take over every single thread? The show Saturday night was pretty good, just didn't quite flow right. Bring on the Fall tour dates!
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oh yeah, i forgot . . . bat for lashes has two albums, can't keep the same line up for live shows, and thom yorke thinks they are neat.
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
yeah, they're shit . . . that's why they have only been a band for 21 years, sold over 8 million "studio" albums (not including the number in millions of live show albums off their website), hosted 7 three day festivals where only they played, have sold out every single show they have ever played, no matter what the size of the venue, regularly played 10 months of the years every year for 10 - 15 years, have the respect of many bands and guitar players from all genres of music ranging from bluegrass/country/rock/indie/rap, had their tickets scalped for as much as $1000 for just 1 of their shows, are only four people who can create such a sound that they do, are a jam band who have never covered a single dead song, rolling stone magazine called them the "most important band of the nineties," have a ben and jerry's ice named after them which donates part of the proceeds to a vermont charity, each band member formed their own succesful side project (some two), have songs on rock band video game, have a tickets by mail order process thus bypassing ticketmaster and livenation, have fan-run charitable organizations dedicated to music education for children which have announced two $5,000 grants a year, all members are mental giants who all have their doctorates, have received a lifetime acheivement award, a cult following in the millions by now that will tour with them no matter where they go, be it anywhere in the states or other countries, been on the simpsons.
No one's ever went broke underestimating the intelligence or taste of the American people. 80% of your argument could be copy+paste'd for Brittany Spears.
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LOL do you hipsters need to take over every single thread?
No, man, not at all. Instead of talking about hipster crap, we could've trashed phish and their druggie, poor dimestore fans for 7-8 pages. You never know how things'll turn out.
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Sorry.
thread hijacked!!!!!!! :)
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
yeah, they're shit . . . that's why they have only been a band for 21 years, sold over 8 million "studio" albums (not including the number in millions of live show albums off their website), hosted 7 three day festivals where only they played, have sold out every single show they have ever played, no matter what the size of the venue, regularly played 10 months of the years every year for 10 - 15 years, have the respect of many bands and guitar players from all genres of music ranging from bluegrass/country/rock/indie/rap, had their tickets scalped for as much as $1000 for just 1 of their shows, are only four people who can create such a sound that they do, are a jam band who have never covered a single dead song, rolling stone magazine called them the "most important band of the nineties," have a ben and jerry's ice named after them which donates part of the proceeds to a vermont charity, each band member formed their own succesful side project (some two), have songs on rock band video game, have a tickets by mail order process thus bypassing ticketmaster and livenation, have fan-run charitable organizations dedicated to music education for children which have announced two $5,000 grants a year, all members are mental giants who all have their doctorates, have received a lifetime acheivement award, a cult following in the millions by now that will tour with them no matter where they go, be it anywhere in the states or other countries, been on the simpsons.
No one's ever went broke underestimating the intelligence or taste of the American people. 80% of your argument could be copy+paste'd for Brittany Spears.
then prove your point and do it. you too, as an american, fall under those "questionable tastes and intelligence."
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you too, as an american, fall under those "questionable tastes and intelligence."
No, I have money.
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
yeah, they're shit . . . that's why they have only been a band for 21 years, sold over 8 million "studio" albums (not including the number in millions of live show albums off their website), hosted 7 three day festivals where only they played, have sold out every single show they have ever played, no matter what the size of the venue, regularly played 10 months of the years every year for 10 - 15 years, have the respect of many bands and guitar players from all genres of music ranging from bluegrass/country/rock/indie/rap, had their tickets scalped for as much as $1000 for just 1 of their shows, are only four people who can create such a sound that they do, are a jam band who have never covered a single dead song, rolling stone magazine called them the "most important band of the nineties," have a ben and jerry's ice named after them which donates part of the proceeds to a vermont charity, each band member formed their own succesful side project (some two), have songs on rock band video game, have a tickets by mail order process thus bypassing ticketmaster and livenation, have fan-run charitable organizations dedicated to music education for children which have announced two $5,000 grants a year, all members are mental giants who all have their doctorates, have received a lifetime acheivement award, a cult following in the millions by now that will tour with them no matter where they go, be it anywhere in the states or other countries, been on the simpsons.
While a lot of this is true, and I am a Phish fan, there is also a lot in this little rant that is not true, including:
*Have sold out every single show they have ever played
*Never covered the Dead
*Bypassing Ticketmaster and Live Nation (pre-sale this time was handled by Music Today, owned by Live Nation)
*Each band member formed their own successful side project (though I suppose this depends on your definition of "successful," but Jon Fishman - to my knowledge - has not formed his own group independent of Phish, though he has sat in with others)
*Each band member has their own doctorate
Like I said, I'm a fan - but you can defend Phish without making shit up.
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Phish playing the Beatles "White Album" all the way through for a set was pretty damn awesome.
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"*Each band member formed their own successful side project (though I suppose this depends on your definition of "successful," but Jon Fishman - to my knowledge - has not formed his own group independent of Phish, though he has sat in with others)"
It was called Pork Tornado and was a gigantic turd.
The hardcore Phish fans don't like talking about it.
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Phish is terrible shit. Bat For Lashes, while not my thing, is 500 times better than Phish.
yeah, they're shit . . . that's why they have only been a band for 21 years, sold over 8 million "studio" albums (not including the number in millions of live show albums off their website), hosted 7 three day festivals where only they played, have sold out every single show they have ever played, no matter what the size of the venue, regularly played 10 months of the years every year for 10 - 15 years, have the respect of many bands and guitar players from all genres of music ranging from bluegrass/country/rock/indie/rap, had their tickets scalped for as much as $1000 for just 1 of their shows, are only four people who can create such a sound that they do, are a jam band who have never covered a single dead song, rolling stone magazine called them the "most important band of the nineties," have a ben and jerry's ice named after them which donates part of the proceeds to a vermont charity, each band member formed their own succesful side project (some two), have songs on rock band video game, have a tickets by mail order process thus bypassing ticketmaster and livenation, have fan-run charitable organizations dedicated to music education for children which have announced two $5,000 grants a year, all members are mental giants who all have their doctorates, have received a lifetime acheivement award, a cult following in the millions by now that will tour with them no matter where they go, be it anywhere in the states or other countries, been on the simpsons.
While a lot of this is true, and I am a Phish fan, there is also a lot in this little rant that is not true, including:
*Have sold out every single show they have ever played
*Never covered the Dead
*Bypassing Ticketmaster and Live Nation (pre-sale this time was handled by Music Today, owned by Live Nation)
*Each band member formed their own successful side project (though I suppose this depends on your definition of "successful," but Jon Fishman - to my knowledge - has not formed his own group independent of Phish, though he has sat in with others)
*Each band member has their own doctorate
Like I said, I'm a fan - but you can defend Phish without making shit up.
sorry, you are correct, i did stretch the sell out every show thing, it didn't officially start happening until 1987. fishman has been in pork tornado and the jazz mandolin project. the band has their own presale from their own website, which thus does bypass having to initially deal with onsale through ticketmaster or livenation. i thought they have never covered a single dead song but it is true they have covered two in their entire career (fire on the mountain and scarlett b.) my bad. and i have always been under the influence that they have finally gone on to get their doctorates, and have been told this by countless sources, so i didn't think i was making that up.
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Isn't JMP someone else's band?
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Isn't JMP someone else's band?
Yes. And I had forgotten Pork Tornado. Justifiably so.
As for walkonby's response:
*The band's pre-sale is administered through Music Today, even if the portal is their website.
*They've also covered Terrapin Station, and there might be more than that.
*Re: doctorates - I can't find any information on the web to confirm this, and my impression is that they finished school and then went on the road.
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Isn't JMP someone else's band?
well if you want to get technical, jazz mandolin is "someone else's band" . . . but he has played in for years.
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Isn't JMP someone else's band?
Yes. And I had forgotten Pork Tornado. Justifiably so.
As for walkonby's response:
*The band's pre-sale is administered through Music Today, even if the portal is their website.
*They've also covered Terrapin Station, and there might be more than that.
*Re: doctorates - I can't find any information on the web to confirm this, and my impression is that they finished school and then went on the road.
please . . . as a fellow phan, let's not phish argue. i'm just happy people aren't happy talking about tori or bats for lashes anymore!!
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yeah, bat for lashes is pretty good, in a tori amos way ;D
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have i mentioned that bat for lashes' voice reminds me of sarah mclachlan?
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have i mentioned that bat for lashes' voice reminds me of sarah mclachlan?
But only because of that song by Delerium....
I think I read that somewhere.
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In duh! news:
31 People Arrested at Maryland Phish Concert (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081802434.html?hpid=sec-metro)
Tuesday, August 18, 2009; 3:20 PM
Howard County police arrested 31 people at a Phish concert at Merriweather Post Pavilion on Saturday and seized drugs and cash.
Four men were charged with drug possession with intent to distribute and other charges, police said. Authorities said the men were traveling in a white recreational vehicle that contained drugs and $12,000 in cash.
Twenty other people were charged with drug possession. Three others were charged with drug possession with intent to distribute. Two people were charged with assault, and two were charged with trespassing.
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have i mentioned that bat for lashes' voice reminds me of sarah mclachlan?
But only because of that song by Delerium....
I think I read that somewhere.
actually no, it isn't *just* because of "silence". they both sing in the same range, they have similar flourishes, etc. having spent an inordinate amount of time in the 90's listening to sarah's first 3 albums (if you wanted to get anywhere with the canadian ladies at that time, mclachlan was a prerequisite), i assure you there similarities extend beyond that one track... although it is the prime example.
as you were... arguing about phish's academic credentials, was it?