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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 10:45:56 am

Title: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 10:45:56 am
after nine days of following widespread panic from dc to raleigh to richmond, with the hotels, and the drinking, and the meeting of strangers who seem to only love to talk about how many shows they have been to and what songs they want played that evening, and the "what seemed like non stop partying from the moment i awoke to the times i passed out", and actually getting around to enjoy the highlights of richmond's carytown/shockoe/downtown area with it so trying being alexandria's old town meets georgetown but still very nice (i thought of julian as i ventured) . . . it is, yes, "great, just great" to be back and catching up on my reading of the forum funnies.  the hole thread hit the spot.  and i suspected this before, but after another return, if the national in richmond was in dc instead . . . i don't think seth would win "best club" anymore.  the national destroys nine thirty in everyway.  i think the fact that it so obvious the nine thirty oversells its sold out shows really has put a bad taste in my mouth about the place.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: James Ford on April 29, 2010, 10:48:27 am
Stop going to shows that attract fat middle aged men and start going to shows that attract cute skinny girls, and the sold out shows won't seem so packed.

Oh, and welcome back. Now how do we prevent Markie from leaving again?


national destroys nine thirty in everyway.  i think the fact that it so obvious the nine thirty oversells its sold out shows really has put a bad taste in my mouth about the place.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: fatskippy on April 29, 2010, 10:49:21 am
It's gotten to the point that a band has to be one of my favorites for me to deal with a sold out show at 9:30 nowadays.  The overselling there is absurd.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 10:53:00 am
Stop going to shows that attract fat middle aged men and start going to shows that attract cute skinny girls, and the sold out shows won't seem so packed.

Oh, and welcome back. Now how do we prevent Markie from leaving again?


national destroys nine thirty in everyway.  i think the fact that it so obvious the nine thirty oversells its sold out shows really has put a bad taste in my mouth about the place.

it was amusing.  in raleigh, it was like it was raining hot girls; they were everywhere and in very little clothes.  but in richmond, total sausage party.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2010, 11:59:20 am
Good to be anywhere!

Guess I haven't been to a super sold out show at the 930 in a while....

Went to the National a couple of weeks ago for Ween and I was suprised how quickly we made it down once we exited DC. Its a nice place but there are a few better things about the 930 for sure.. the side bars at the National are almost apart from the show..at the 930 the bars are very much still in plain view...

I'll have to think of some more..
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: chaz on April 29, 2010, 12:14:35 pm


http://www.nbc12.com/global/category.asp?c=151146&clipId=&topVideoCatNo=15149&topVideoCatNoB=135440&topVideoCatNoC=136187&topVideoCatNoD=136183&topVideoCatNoE=154626&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4741346&flvUri=&partnerclipid=
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 12:26:25 pm
those poor hippies are always bein picked on!!!
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2010, 01:52:52 pm


http://www.nbc12.com/global/category.asp?c=151146&clipId=&topVideoCatNo=15149&topVideoCatNoB=135440&topVideoCatNoC=136187&topVideoCatNoD=136183&topVideoCatNoE=154626&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4741346&flvUri=&partnerclipid=

"meanwhile, nearly 69 people were arrested".

nearly?

i guess sting operations like this one are another way in which the national is better than the 930.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2010, 03:06:22 pm
You were gone?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: wml7 on April 29, 2010, 03:08:41 pm
after nine days of following widespread panic from dc to raleigh to richmond, with the hotels, and the drinking, and the meeting of strangers who seem to only love to talk about how many shows they have been to and what songs they want played that evening, and the "what seemed like non stop partying from the moment i awoke to the times i passed out", and actually getting around to enjoy the highlights of richmond's carytown/shockoe/downtown area with it so trying being alexandria's old town meets georgetown but still very nice (i thought of julian as i ventured) . . . it is, yes, "great, just great" to be back and catching up on my reading of the forum funnies.  the hole thread hit the spot.  and i suspected this before, but after another return, if the national in richmond was in dc instead . . . i don't think seth would win "best club" anymore.  the national destroys nine thirty in everyway.  i think the fact that it so obvious the nine thirty oversells its sold out shows really has put a bad taste in my mouth about the place.

you should have hung out with Julian while you were in Richmond  ;D  and what?? no cat photo?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 03:30:40 pm
the thing about the undercover abc people . . . i do have one beef with the national regarding this.  i too was a victim of the "the man" second night.  on day one at national, my friends and i (plus half the crowd) were drinking beer out of red cups before the show.  no body said shit.  no body from the venue (or all 20 of the security out front) told anybody to stop drinking.  so on second show day, we show up out of hotel shuttle with our red cups in hand, and i not even had taken my first sip before a black guy grabs me by the arm and says "you're coming with me.  i'm undercover abc and i'm giving you a ticket for drinking in public."  after much, "i didn't know sir.  nobody said anything to us last night, blah blah blah" . . . this is what happens:  he asks for my id.  i take out my id.  he takes my id.  then at that very moment in time, a drug bust happens right beside me where the guy breaks free then takes off running from the cop.  very exciting stuff!  the abc dude then takes off running to help the cop catch the hippie, and they are gone.  and the abc guy has my id.  i ditch the beer and wait.  what else could i do?  and i wait for like thirty minutes.  nothing.  i finally go inside and keep checking back with security all night to see if they have seen the abc dude.  i was in panic at panic. 

and i must say that the staff of the national went bent over backwards to make sure i got my id back and i personally thanked every last one of them.  but the kicker was that the abc guy had come into the venue during the show to find me . . . not so much to make sure i got my id or to thank me for waiting him or trying to find him, but to make sure i still got the ticket.  fucker.  but i showed my respect, said thank you very much sir with a big ole smile.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2010, 03:42:53 pm
Did the National serve you without an ID?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 03:53:44 pm
no.  i refused to drink out of spite and anger.  but when i got my id back, i was allowed to get a id band and proceed to drink myself silly.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: notme on April 29, 2010, 04:14:20 pm
do the nitrous ballon sellers follow the band from town to town?  warner was hilarious.  hard to believe the authorities do not crack down.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: wml7 on April 29, 2010, 04:31:22 pm
geez, I hope the National doesn't lose their license for this fiasco  :o
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 05:03:22 pm
do the nitrous ballon sellers follow the band from town to town?  warner was hilarious.  hard to believe the authorities do not crack down.

not always.  widespread is more mature than most jam bands.  and the nitrous at warner was bunk shit being sold by wannabe mafia kids.  sad.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: saco on April 29, 2010, 06:25:42 pm
the thing about the undercover abc people . . . i do have one beef with the national regarding this.  i too was a victim of the "the man" second night.  on day one at national, my friends and i (plus half the crowd) were drinking beer out of red cups before the show.  no body said shit.  no body from the venue (or all 20 of the security out front) told anybody to stop drinking.  so on second show day, we show up out of hotel shuttle with our red cups in hand, and i not even had taken my first sip before a black guy grabs me by the arm and says "you're coming with me.  i'm undercover abc and i'm giving you a ticket for drinking in public."  after much, "i didn't know sir.  nobody said anything to us last night, blah blah blah" . . . 

So you are upset with the National staph for not taking the beer out of everyones hands on night one? Without the hindsight of 20/20 do you really think you would have thanked them on night one for doing so? 
While I think thats foolish of them, they should have to protect their liquor license, the last time I checked Richmond wasnt New Orleans or Las Vegas.  Dont blame the venue you are seeing the concert at for not reminding you that drinking in public is against the law
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on April 29, 2010, 06:52:45 pm
it is a small beef.  dipped in a nice thai, sour sauce.  i love everything national.  it was my fault for having an open container i know this . . . but i got slipped into the "used to" of drinking out of red cups before shows (including both nights warner) and not having anybody say anything.  sort of the same concept that hippies have with the nine thirty.  at "most other" venues, if you get busted with pot or smoking it, they take it and tell you not to do it, where at the club they throw your ass out.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on May 02, 2010, 01:42:55 pm
has anybody heard anything about whether the national is getting in trouble for this?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2010, 10:13:40 am
has anybody heard anything about whether the national is getting in trouble for this?
I just got back in town from a weeks vacation at the beach, so this is the first I'm hearing about all this, but I'll check around.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: walkonby on May 03, 2010, 11:21:08 am
has anybody heard anything about whether the national is getting in trouble for this?
I just got back in town from a weeks vacation at the beach, so this is the first I'm hearing about all this, but I'll check around.

by the way . . . loved your town.  it had things to offer i never knew about.  and here i thought richmond could only be easily described as where they make cigarettes . . . and home to the "don't go there" neighborhoods.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2010, 01:27:49 pm
Yeah, we have some nice things. Cannot wait for the grand opening of the new VMFA.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: James Ford on May 03, 2010, 01:39:56 pm
I'll never forget the first time I was in Richmond. My then-girlfriend and I came back to her DC-plated Honda to find a KKK recruitment pamphlet under the wipers.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2010, 01:42:52 pm
I'll never forget the first time I was in Richmond. My then-girlfriend and I came back to her DC-plated Honda to find a KKK recruitment pamphlet under the wipers.
Are you certain you weren't in Mechanicsville?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: James Ford on May 03, 2010, 01:57:39 pm
Pretty sure the entire trip was in Richmond. It was back in the late 90's. Ironically, it included a visit to the Museum on the Confederacy. The itinerary was entirely her design, I was just the arm candy to show off to her Richmond based friend.

What's in Mechanicsville? Is that where RIR is?


I'll never forget the first time I was in Richmond. My then-girlfriend and I came back to her DC-plated Honda to find a KKK recruitment pamphlet under the wipers.
Are you certain you weren't in Mechanicsville?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2010, 02:31:43 pm
What's in Mechanicsville? Is that where RIR is?
RIR is not in Mechanicsville Proper, but it's very close. Mechanicsville is basically the east side of town's suburb and the east side of town is the significantly-more redneck/racist side.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: betao on May 03, 2010, 04:57:54 pm
Mechanicsville is pretty bad. The east side (out near the airport and RIR) is full of rednecks. I grew up in the west end which is much more tolerable.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: wml7 on May 03, 2010, 05:04:16 pm
I went to chili cook off in Richmond this year.  I must say that was an eye opener  :o  Everyone was wearing wife beaters (girls included) and all the exhibits booths were free ciagrettes, cans of dip, and monster truck stuff.  Wowzers  ;D
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: Relaxer on May 03, 2010, 05:26:35 pm
woah woah, were the cans of dip free?
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: wml7 on May 03, 2010, 05:33:39 pm
woah woah, were the cans of dip free?

yes, people were getting them left and right
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: hutch on May 05, 2010, 10:24:02 am
The National is well located.. Drive down on 95 get off at Broad Street drive a few blocks check show out and head back up 95.
Title: Re: good to be back
Post by: James Ford on May 05, 2010, 10:37:22 am
In my estimation, this CAN be a good thing. Though in our nation of fat, it's usually not.

wearing wife beaters (girls included)