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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bartelby on June 04, 2005, 02:42:00 pm

Title: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Bartelby on June 04, 2005, 02:42:00 pm
I got an iPod mini as a present for a friend who lives in Calif. so I don't have access to his music library to see what groups he's crazy about - and I am totally clueless about metal or numetal.  I'm setting up his iPod prior to "gifting" him, with a few of my fav. groups and I want to download a handful of some suggestions from you all...Here's a couple groups/musicians he loves:  Frank Zappa, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Rush - and he talks about Geddy Lee, Geezer Butler...Can anyone out there give me a few old classic picks and a couple new groups' songs?  HELPPPP!  Tanks muchly.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Random Citizen on June 04, 2005, 02:49:00 pm
There was just a thread (http://www.velvetrope.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=620110&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=2&fpart=1) on the Velvet Rope discussing the best metal/hard rock songs ever. That may help you.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: madteletubbie on June 04, 2005, 03:45:00 pm
Some of my favorite metal bands are as followed (most of them belonging to Thrash metal): Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden (speaking of, Bruce Dickinson's solo work is consistantly strong), Mercyful Fate (and King Diamond as well) Overkill, Exodus, Testament, Anthrax, Slayer, Sepultura. Those are the main ones and all are established classics. Don't know if your friend would likes any of those those, though.
 
 I'm not too current with a lot of new and upcoming metal bands nowadays but one of my favorites has been Strapping Young Lad and the Devin Townsend Band (both bands are fronted by surprise! Devin Townsend). Though neither act fully fits into the traditional "metal" sound, they still kick lots of booty (SYL being the more aggresive band and DTB being the more melodic). Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Shadrach on June 04, 2005, 04:50:00 pm
If he likes Sabbath there's a pretty good chance he'd like Clutch or would like Clutch if he's not already into them.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: twangirl on June 04, 2005, 04:57:00 pm
throw some old Motorhead on there too!
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: samrb on June 04, 2005, 05:20:00 pm
The following 'new' metal bands will make you shit your pants. I promise you.
 THE RED CHORD - fused together in revolving doors
 BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME - Silent Circus
 DARKEST HOUR - anything and everything
 CONVERGE - Jane Doe
 THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER - Unhallowed
 MASTODON - everyone has heard of this band right? check Leviathan, it really is that cool
 and finally, THE band by which all others in heavy metal must be judged . . . fuckin' MESSHUGA.
 so yeah . . . make yo ears bleed!
 SAMRB
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: flawd101 on June 04, 2005, 07:58:00 pm
darkest hour, BDM, and converge!?!?!
 finally someone who doesn't suck!?!?!
 
 i love this person...kind of...him or her?
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on June 05, 2005, 01:59:00 am
Sushi, post this question on the music forum of Doomlink (http://www.alex.to/doomlink), direct it to a user named Condor Legion, I guarantee you'll get expert advice.  :)
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Post by: dogman on June 05, 2005, 02:08:00 am
try KING'S X......start with their masterpiece, Gretchen Goes to Nebraska, then check out Dogman.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: smakawhat on June 06, 2005, 04:28:00 pm
OKAY...
 
 For Sabbath.. well.. any of the old classic stuff Paranoid, NIB, Sweet Leaf.. etc etc... if you wann f-em up, put the Iron Man version cover done by "The Cardigans"
 
 For Iron Maiden,  number of the beast, anything from the Piece of Mind album.
 
 Rush - well so many... anything from the Moving Pictures, Signals, Power Windows, albums.  2112 (yes the whole thing).
 
 It's obvious your friend is a big bass playing fiend since he is gravitating towards metal/rock bands where the bass players have lots of chops.
 
 That aside put this stuff on as well for NEW
 
 Determined - Mudvayne
 Anything from Soilwork (Natural Born Chaos, Predator's Portrait, Stabbing the Drama)
 Anything from In Flames (Reroute to Remain, Clayman, Colony, etc..)
 Meshuggah - chaosphere!!!
 OPETH - "Funeral Portrait" (I am not a big fan of the band but this song is FRIGGIN awesome, can't deny it's genius along with a few others)
 I could write more on this but man I wanna leave work soon    :)
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Bartelby on June 06, 2005, 04:51:00 pm
Many thanks to you all.  I've noted every recommendation, and now I'm thinking...Holy Cwap - I need a bigger iPod...but I already started downloading, so maybe next birthday...an upgrade will be in order...and yes, he's a bass playin' fool fer sure. I'm fascinated by this group Messhuga...wonder if they'll every play around here.
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Post by: sacriforce on June 06, 2005, 06:07:00 pm
More recommendations -
 
 PIG DESTROYER - they're from NOVA and they're the best thing out there. Bar none.
 ION DISSONANCE - mathcore, blood and guts
 PROBOT - actually pretty good/funny/rockin
 CRYPTOPSY - fuckin brutal
 SUFFOCATION - also brutal
 DEICIDE - the absolute kings of florida deathmetal
 SINAI BEACH - would you believe they're christian?
 LAMB OF GOD - standard bearers for new new metal
 FULL BLOWN CHAOS - metalcore from Queens. neyong Hatebreed.
 DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN - spaz/blast/mathcore
 
 as well check out IN FLAMES, AT THE GATES, AS I LAY DYING, EVERYTIME I DIE, GOD FORBID, MARTYR A.D., DIMMU BORGIR, EMPEROR, IMMOLATION and I heartily second DARKEST HOUR, MESHUGGAH and classics like OPETH, CELTIC FROST, TESTAMENT et al.
 
 might I also recommend SACRIFORCE RADIO (http://sacriforce.org/radio/) for all your online radio needs, metal and waaaaaay otherwise
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: sacriforce on June 06, 2005, 06:09:00 pm
they played at State Theater 2 summers ago with strapping young lad and a really hot local mathcore band with 2 singers. Good show but a little preachy in between songs. they also openned for TOOL on certain dates of their last US tour around the same time.  
 
 
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
  Many thanks to you all.  I've noted every recommendation, and now I'm thinking...Holy Cwap - I need a bigger iPod...but I already started downloading, so maybe next birthday...an upgrade will be in order...and yes, he's a bass playin' fool fer sure. I'm fascinated by this group Messhuga...wonder if they'll every play around here.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: tenfifteen on June 06, 2005, 08:50:00 pm
Second the Mastodon recommendation, and would also add the newest disc by High on Fire: "Blessed Black Wings." Blistering.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: smakawhat on June 07, 2005, 04:40:00 pm
Man Messhugah and Tool in concert.  That would have been a show to see..
 
 Opeth did play 9:30 club I think last year if not 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: sacriforce on June 07, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
apparently the guitarist and drummer from TOOL were really feeling them and Dimmu Borgir who I think nded up openning on Euro leg of their tour, so they asked them to ride.
 
 I've never been to JAxxxxxxx in springfeidl but judging from their ads they have a lot of fine deathmetal shows as well as some good southern hard rock. My dj partner just saw Artimus Pyledriver and they rocked her world significantly
 
 
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Originally posted by smakawhat:
  Man Messhugah and Tool in concert.  That would have been a show to see..
 
 Opeth did play 9:30 club I think last year if not 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: grotty on June 07, 2005, 05:26:00 pm
Sushi-
 
 Be careful here. These are all great current metal recommendations, but I'm not sure we are even talking about the same thing.
 
 There's little resemblance between even Judas Priest & a band like Mastodon.
 
 Metal is a very broad genre. Just because you like Iron Maiden/Rush/Black Sabbath doesn't necessarily mean that you will like many of these new darker/heavier metal bands.
 
 Just a thought...
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: grotty on June 07, 2005, 05:27:00 pm
error...dbl
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Bartelby on June 07, 2005, 05:59:00 pm
Yup, thanks for that warning...tried my hardest to get thru a Lamb of God cd - and my best friend is a big Slipknot fan...with all due respect to their fans, I think it's an acquired taste.  I figure this particular iPod won't be plugged into my ears.  :roll:
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Post by: flawd101 on June 07, 2005, 08:57:00 pm
check out new avenged sevenfold (city of evil CD),  its like iron maiden but more modern...
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: tenfifteen on June 07, 2005, 09:26:00 pm
Well, Mastodon sorta reminds me of Rush meets Slayer. No Cookie Monster vocals, a la "Cannibal Corpse," et al.
 
 High on Fire features the bassist from Melvins, sounds a lot like that band as a result, and also reminds me a lot of Motorhead.
 
 I wouldn't recommend a lot of new metal, but I was quite the Anthrax/Metallica/Megadeth/JP/Iron Maiden fan way back, and both of these bands appeal to me.
 
 YMMV.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Captain Jack on June 07, 2005, 11:40:00 pm
Sleep
 Entombed
 At The Gates
 Death
 Mastadon
 Baroness
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: smakawhat on June 08, 2005, 09:52:00 am
grotty has got it on spot.  Metal is VERY diverse now certainly than it was 15 years ago... WOW!  great stuff.
 
 I can do with out the trachiotimy singers as well too most of the time. thank you very much    :D
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Post by: chaz on June 08, 2005, 10:01:00 am
Motorhead
 Remember me now Motorhead
 Alright
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: sacriforce on June 08, 2005, 11:44:00 am
true.
 As for Rush, I em but, definitely prog, definitely heavy but ... metal?
 
 
 
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Metal is a very broad genre. Just because you like Iron Maiden/Rush/Black Sabbath doesn't necessarily mean that you will like many of these new darker/heavier metal bands.
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: on June 08, 2005, 11:48:00 am
What about TESLA, KISS or Ted Nugent?
Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: sacriforce on June 08, 2005, 04:05:00 pm
hard rock.
 
 
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
  What about TESLA, KISS or Ted Nugent?
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Post by: ggw on June 08, 2005, 04:31:00 pm
Every prog-loving bass player should have this:
 
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Post by: palahniukkubrick on June 08, 2005, 05:51:00 pm
ministry maybe. or primus. maybe einsturzende neubaten. hmmmmm....pfm possibly although some of their songs sound like phish. or diamanda galas if you think he's up to listening to her.
 
 Actually nevermind, I agree with ggw.
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Post by: on June 09, 2005, 11:04:00 am
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Title: Re: Metal heads, young and old, I need advice!
Post by: Bartelby on June 09, 2005, 12:27:00 pm
Hilarious. I think that is what happened to anyone crazy enuf to eat sushi at last night's Merriweather Post show...100 degrees and not much ice?  Hmmmm....