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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sweetcell on June 09, 2010, 11:58:02 pm
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apparently a shooting went down tonight at 8th & V, in the parking lot that is kitty-corner from the back door (stage door) of the 930 club: Three men shot, seriously wounded in Northwest Washington's Shaw neighborhood (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/09/AR2010060906591.html). a police spokesman said it was gang-related, so you're still safe walkies :D
i learned of this on a local news show, and the announcer mentioned the name of the club in a really funny way, as if it was a shady place: the shooting took place close to the "930 Club", a local music venue.... there was a pause before "930" and you could hear the air quotes in her voice. sounded like she should have thrown in the word "alleged" in front of "930". weird. how can one announce local news and not have heard of the club?
in other news, that parking lot is schedule for redevelopment. it will become retail space... which means less parking available for 930 patrons. maybe they'll put in restaurant too.
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oh lord. thanks sweet for making me even more nervous. you know how us "country folk" are in those big ole scary cities. ;)
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I knew that whole area was sketchy, this totally proves it. Never hesistating to not go to another show there ever again.
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I was in that area last night at Duffy's having a beer before the Brian Jonestown Massacre gig. Nothing seemed out of line.
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I didn't get down there til about 8:30, by that time the blocks behind the club were shut off.
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how were BJM? I got lazy......
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Follow along here (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=20473.0).
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god, why do I always miss the good action ;D
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It's all Anton's fault.
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Never be surprised about what can go down around the uptown area. Especially with it being close to Howard. Years ago, even before I moved here, I remember U Street was not even an area to walk around in. Even before you saw Allero's, Ulah, and etc. It sucks but this is DC. If you read the paper everyday then you know whats up.
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I used to walk between 18th and Florida and 930 club along U street back in 1996/1997/1998..
It was definitely sketchy once you got past State of the Union....particularly during summer you'd walk fast..
Its amazing how much its changed.
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^^ wow, what's wrong with 930 being by howard? are you implying something that i do not want to mention?
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Never be surprised about what can go down around the uptown area. Especially with it being close to Howard. Years ago, even before I moved here, I remember U Street was not even an area to walk around in. Even before you saw Allero's, Ulah, and etc. It sucks but this is DC. If you read the paper everyday then you know whats up.
Which is exactly why Walkie doesn't like to do his walking in the neighborhood. But yeah, I remember a time when I didn't even like driving around Florida Avenue! Way back then, I use to always get lost in DC on my way home and would end up around there every single time! It's so much better now but that doesn't mean that it's Spic & Span clean either. Let's just say that it's much, much better but not some Metropolitan Disneyland. Now I feel totally safe driving and safe enough to walk around by myself to some degree. However, always wise to continue bringing your street smarts along with you while venturing into any part of DC; or any city, for that matter. The complete deniers kill me. They are full of so much bravado and almost deserve some sort of incident to happen to them to set them straight. I'm just not mean enough though to remove that word 'almost'.
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Never be surprised about what can go down around the uptown area. Especially with it being close to Howard.
What does being near the nation's premier African-American university have to do with anything? You think Howard's student body of aspiring buppies are out shooting people up?
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Never be surprised about what can go down around the uptown area. Especially with it being close to Howard.
What does being near the nation's premier African-American university have to do with anything? You think Howard's student body of aspiring buppies are out shooting people up?
First of all, I'm an Howard alumni; don't twist up what I'm saying. I know a bit more about the neighborhood than you'd know. For example, the freshman dorm for the guys, Drew Hall, is two streets away from Hobart which used to be (and still sort of is) a notorious block for all kinds of shit. Second of all, don't joke about that happening around in the area of Howard University. Do your research and you'll find out about crimes that took place outside of the campus area of where Howard is. Have you ever walked around Columbia Rd at night? How about taking trip up Georgia Ave. NW towards Petiworth around 1am like you're on your way to the Penthouse? Do some of those things and get back to me. When I used to go around those parts, anything could happen uptown. Don't sleep.
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Never be surprised about what can go down around the uptown area. Especially with it being close to Howard. Years ago, even before I moved here, I remember U Street was not even an area to walk around in. Even before you saw Allero's, Ulah, and etc. It sucks but this is DC. If you read the paper everyday then you know whats up.
Which is exactly why Walkie doesn't like to do his walking in the neighborhood. But yeah, I remember a time when I didn't even like driving around Florida Avenue! Way back then, I use to always get lost in DC on my way home and would end up around there every single time! It's so much better now but that doesn't mean that it's Spic & Span clean either. Let's just say that it's much, much better but not some Metropolitan Disneyland. Now I feel totally safe driving and safe enough to walk around by myself to some degree. However, always wise to continue bringing your street smarts along with you while venturing into any part of DC; or any city, for that matter. The complete deniers kill me. They are full of so much bravado and almost deserve some sort of incident to happen to them to set them straight. I'm just not mean enough though to remove that word 'almost'.
You pretty much nailed it. Alot of transplants who are on that bravado shit look at DC like a playground until they a closer look at whats going on with the city. Let those be in denial all they want. Just because big developers came in and gentrified what used to look like chocolate city doesn't mean this place got completely safe. All what happened was some things got destroyed, something else got rebuilt, and a new price tag has been placed on a historic area. But just wait....it'll change again.
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Is it wrong to feel safe? Like we shouldn't enjoy walking through the streets? You are making it sound like we all deserve to get stabbed. Of course I'm still careful when walking around, but nowhere near as skecthed out as I was, say, 7 or 8 years ago.
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What about his post would make you say that?
Is it wrong to feel safe? Like we shouldn't enjoy walking through the streets? You are making it sound like we all deserve to get stabbed. Of course I'm still careful when walking around, but nowhere near as skecthed out as I was, say, 7 or 8 years ago.
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What about his post would make you say that?
Is it wrong to feel safe? Like we shouldn't enjoy walking through the streets? You are making it sound like we all deserve to get stabbed. Of course I'm still careful when walking around, but nowhere near as skecthed out as I was, say, 7 or 8 years ago.
"Let those be in denial all they want. Just because big developers came in and gentrified what used to look like chocolate city doesn't mean this place got completely safe. All what happened was some things got destroyed, something else got rebuilt, and a new price tag has been placed on a historic area. But just wait....it'll change again."
It's not denial, it's definetly not the safest place in the world, but there are way worse places in DC. Gentrification ftw.
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uhmm . . . you don't get stabbed in dc. that would require balls of the perp to be able to get that close to the victim. shoot them from a distance makes you a "real man." just ask the military.
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Is it wrong to feel safe? Like we shouldn't enjoy walking through the streets? You are making it sound like we all deserve to get stabbed. Of course I'm still careful when walking around, but nowhere near as skecthed out as I was, say, 7 or 8 years ago.
You should always want to feel safe. But if you're happy-go-lucky drunk and acting dumb as hell in DC (especially in certain parts of the city), best believe you increase your chances of attracting the wrong kind of attention. And other times, its these crazy kids who want to start shit or ex-cons who just got released going back to their old habits. With innocent folks getting hurt in this midst of it.
And no one deserves it. Thats not what I'm saying. Look at what I said again. I mentioned nowhere that people who move into these new gentrified areas deserve that. It goes beyond the crimewave in the city. My main thing is the denial of what people think this city used to be because we got these new spots built now.
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I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how... not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.
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I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how... not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.
Yeah, that's because they were never down there before the Park was built. Yeah, leave it to a couple of housewives to not have a fucking clue in general, nevertheless about the economy and urban commercial development. And christ, it's not even a hellhole in Near SE anyway. "Clean it up?" Southwest of the park where James Creek, Buzzard Point and even Greenleaf Gardens to the west are the areas that need to be "cleaned up," not Near SE. Near SE just needs some development.
Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.
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TMUL's delivers.
Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.
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I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how... not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.
Yeah, that's because they were never down there before the Park was built. Yeah, leave it to a couple of housewives to not have a fucking clue in general, nevertheless about the economy and urban commercial development. And christ, it's not even a hellhole in Near SE anyway. "Clean it up?" Southwest of the park where James Creek, Buzzard Point and even Greenleaf Gardens to the west are the areas that need to be "cleaned up," not Near SE. Near SE just needs some development.
Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.
Another good point. And I live in SE. I'm in Anacostia so I see the development they're plotting to do. That stuff with the stadium is just the beginning. Wait until they hit up Good Hope Road. If I'm not mistaken, its part of that whole Waterfront makeover.
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First of all, I'm an Howard alumni; don't twist up what I'm saying. I know a bit more about the neighborhood than you'd know. For example, the freshman dorm for the guys, Drew Hall, is two streets away from Hobart which used to be (and still sort of is) a notorious block for all kinds of shit. Second of all, don't joke about that happening around in the area of Howard University. Do your research and you'll find out about crimes that took place outside of the campus area of where Howard is. Have you ever walked around Columbia Rd at night? How about taking trip up Georgia Ave. NW towards Petiworth around 1am like you're on your way to the Penthouse? Do some of those things and get back to me. When I used to go around those parts, anything could happen uptown. Don't sleep.
I still don't get why you're saying that Howard is the cause of all that, which is what your post basically said. Anyway I haven't been up that way on Georgia since the Foxy Playground got shut down.
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uhmm . . . you don't get stabbed in dc. that would require balls of the perp to be able to get that close to the victim. shoot them from a distance makes you a "real man." just ask the military.
the NRA is coming for you...
anyway, some dood got stabbed right outside my window. Just sayin.
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you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist. ban the person from the boards."
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I think we should introduce "Ardamus" as a verb meaning "to completely cut through the hysterical 9:30 forum bullshit with actual life experiences." Well played, sir.
Shootings outside the club are WAY too "real life" for most of the denizens here. They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats....(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales...white guys loving soccer/hockey....how f*cking HILARIOUS Conan O'Brien is..........and i phones.
Please don't cause them to lose their focus.
Brian
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you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist. ban the person from the boards."
If a straight person says "that's gay," do you take it differently than if a gay person says it?
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But just wait....it'll change again.
Whats that supposed to mean, that it will get bad again?
I work in SE by the stadium, have been for years, and there is no way that area would ever get as bad as it was before the stadium was built. I used to always have to be on guard getting to work or going to Nation when it was open, but now I feel relatively safe.
So did you mean it (dc) will change for the better again, or get worse?
I personally think it will continue to get better. But maybe im just a bit of an optimist.
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you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist. ban the person from the boards."
If a straight person says "that's gay," do you take it differently than if a gay person says it?
no . . . it's all gay.
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They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats....(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales...
this is primarily a music forum, right?
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I think we should introduce "Ardamus" as a verb meaning "to completely cut through the hysterical 9:30 forum bullshit with actual life experiences." Well played, sir.
Shootings outside the club are WAY too "real life" for most of the denizens here. They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats....(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales...white guys loving soccer/hockey....how f*cking HILARIOUS Conan O'Brien is..........and i phones.
Please don't cause them to lose their focus.
Brian
Haha at this post. I'm not trying to be a buzzkill or even keep it real like that. All I'm trying to do is have an honest conversation since it was brought up. I'm waiting for Julie aka The WELEBRITY to show up in this thread and start talking trash as usual. Brian.....if we ever meet, homie.....I got you on drink. And thats real.
But just wait....it'll change again.
Whats that supposed to mean, that it will get bad again?
I work in SE by the stadium, have been for years, and there is no way that area would ever get as bad as it was before the stadium was built. I used to always have to be on guard getting to work or going to Nation when it was open, but now I feel relatively safe.
So did you mean it (dc) will change for the better again, or get worse?
I personally think it will continue to get better. But maybe im just a bit of an optimist.
I mean it will get better for some and worse for others; thats all over DC, especially in SE where there's tons of homes for sale that they focusing on re-structuring (especially parts of Anacostia where the view of DC is official). And I know how things were at the Nation. I used to go up there every once and while and check out shows like De La Soul and The Roots rockin' there. You sound like you know some folks who've been in this city for a minute. I've talked to quite a few heads who've been in this city for a minute that point out the patterns of th changes DC goes through.
you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist. ban the person from the boards."
Hey, I got attacked for making a joke about hipsters in one thread. I'm not surprised my point is getting questioned in this thread either. LOL.
First of all, I'm an Howard alumni; don't twist up what I'm saying. I know a bit more about the neighborhood than you'd know. For example, the freshman dorm for the guys, Drew Hall, is two streets away from Hobart which used to be (and still sort of is) a notorious block for all kinds of shit. Second of all, don't joke about that happening around in the area of Howard University. Do your research and you'll find out about crimes that took place outside of the campus area of where Howard is. Have you ever walked around Columbia Rd at night? How about taking trip up Georgia Ave. NW towards Petiworth around 1am like you're on your way to the Penthouse? Do some of those things and get back to me. When I used to go around those parts, anything could happen uptown. Don't sleep.
I still don't get why you're saying that Howard is the cause of all that, which is what your post basically said. Anyway I haven't been up that way on Georgia since the Foxy Playground got shut down.
No no no. I did not say that. I said the area surrounding Howard. Pay attention to what I just posted.
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All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.
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All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.
And in the 1960s, the Feds wanted to pave Rock Creek Park over with a six-lane highway bisecting the city. What's your point?
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i like banana splits. with nuts. and two cherries, not one. thank you.
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All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.
And in the 1960s, the Feds wanted to pave Rock Creek Park over with a six-lane highway bisecting the city. What's your point?
Developers run the city, homie. With that, the money comes in when the housing market goes through gentrification in certain areas. And lets not get into how big business is tied into the real estate of prisons. Given that DC has a high crime rate, they can make money off of locking up criminals. But thats a different topic.
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whoever shot anyone near the club either genuinely had good reason or is just totally on the wrong side of history. the area is dominated by nice condos, sports bars, nice bars lounges . . . ben's is a freaking disney-like attraction at this point. some people don't get it. some people are stuck in the past. i mean if you're with it enough to have a cell phone, let alone a smartphone or whatnot, you should know better than to shoot anyone near the club.
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What's with this singular mindset? There's a whole host of different sorts of people who float through the area and some of them are rather sleazy. Obviously, not as many as at one time but to deny that a few at some point don't venture through, or might even live there, is just total denial or stupidity. Take your pick. I guess all those smash and grabs were just drunken accidents. People falling towards cars and their elbows catch the windows on a bad angle. ::) You've got all kinds of dynamics going on all within one area and a few of those aren't to the majority of locals and visitors' best interest. In fact, the multi-dynamic social environment is why so many people love major international cities such as DC but most people know that you have to put up with, at least, a little bad along with the good. And then there's the crappy economy which is definitly going to bring grief to any neighborhood. Not everyone in DC has some gravy government job. There's a lot of people hurting all over. That's going to bring the worst out in a few. Plus you've got a few gangs who float through the area. Might even live there for all I know. What about that girl gang who stabbed someone, I don't know, maybe a year ago? Just face it, it's not all hipsters and buppies populating the U St. corridor. The sooner you realize that, the safer you will be. Maybe not enough to avoid the area but definitely enough to always bring your street smarts along with you.
Doomie, I suspect that you and Ardamus are much more in the same camp than is apparent in this thread. Kind of think that you just got off on the wrong foot. Hope you two kiss and make up. Well, at least start over and toast a virtual pint or something. ;)
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^^^^No problem with Doom at all. Matter of fact, I'm enjoying this subject. I get to see where he's coming from and vice versa. I don't kiss and make up, LOL, with other guys. :D We just say fuck it, apologize, and drink some brew together.
You brought up some damn good points. Not only is it an issue with gangs and people being affected by the economy, you have to look at some of these guys doing this are ex-cons in the city. Some of these dudes got locked up before some of these new places were developed. They get released and think "what the fuck? what happened to my neighborhood?". They don't expect to see so many people that appear to have money (mostly white but other races are included) in their area now. And some of these ex-cons are cats who got popped in ths 90s or early to mid-2000s that think that.
DC is a transient city. Its where tourists become residents then leave. And sometimes come back. I think thats part of why the social dymanic of DC is what it is. Its very interesting. No doubt about that. But like Jaguar said, to certain degree have that street smarts with you. You might be feeling all good coming out of UHALL from a great night but if you walk down the back street to get to your place, always keep an eye out and be aware of your surroundings.
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^^^^No problem with Doom at all. Matter of fact, I'm enjoying this subject. I get to see where he's coming from and vice versa. I don't kiss and make up, LOL, with other guys. :D We just say fuck it, apologize, and drink some brew together.
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^^^^No problem with Doom at all. Matter of fact, I'm enjoying this subject. I get to see where he's coming from and vice versa. I don't kiss and make up, LOL, with other guys. :D We just say fuck it, apologize, and drink some brew together.
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somebody please lock this thread. it's become fucking stupid.
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somebody please lock this thread. it's become fucking stupid.
Death came from above and look what happened. LOL.
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somebody please lock this thread. it's become fucking stupid.
Death came from above and look what happened. LOL.
Yeah, I ruined the thread. What are the odds.
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All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.
And in the 1960s, the Feds wanted to pave Rock Creek Park over with a six-lane highway bisecting the city. What's your point?
That the federal government hates DC.
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somebody please lock this thread. it's become fucking stupid.
Death came from above and look what happened. LOL.
Yeah, I ruined the thread. What are the odds.
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Hey buddy, I give your thread ruining two thumbs up. We cool?
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Speaking of Jules, what happened to him? Was the ban trigger pulled after those two last deleted posts of his? No the shooting analogy was not intentional but hey, it works.
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i was going to start a thread on just this question... i was under the assumption that he was indeed banned for his bone-headed comments. i'm one of juless biggest fans, but even i couldn't figure out what the hell drove him to write what he wrote. in fact, I was going to PM him and ask "are you TRYING to get banned?!?". looks like he succeeded.
maybe i'll trying contacting him IRL... *ewww*.
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what did he post???? no not julian. he was a staple. a figurine of the forum. he was . . . a touchdown jesus.
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How has no one said anything about the return of Brian Walalace? Or has it been addressed elsewhere?
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i think azag said something awhile ago in a thread. but then brian attacked everybody in some other thread, so i mentioned him in yet another thread. i do still enjoy that he signs his every post.
i also like the fact that he thinks everybody on here is white and only wants to talk about soccer and smashing pumpkins.
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Interesting. He only concerns himself with white people, loves the Smashing Pumpkins, and re-appeared when Julian disappeared.
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You might be onto something here. But if what you are implying is true, Julian has a super-split personality.
Interesting. He only concerns himself with white people, loves the Smashing Pumpkins, and re-appeared when Julian disappeared.
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someone pm me with the gist of what julian said
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No big secret. It was just a racially tinged attack on hip-hop. One of many that he was repeatedly warned about.
someone pm me with the gist of what julian said
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gotcha, just didnt want to anger the mods
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No big secret. It was just a racially tinged attack on hip-hop. One of many that he was repeatedly warned about.
someone pm me with the gist of what julian said
If its what I think you're talking about, it might've been when I posted in the "Just Announced" thread (like I've been warned to do) and apparently he posted something. I didn't get to read what he posted but the mods definitely did not go for it. If anyone remembers what he said, please post something close to it. I need a good laugh at how ignorant some people can be.
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I don't exactly remember what it was but yeah that was about the size of it.
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This is all gay. Julian is gay. Quit ruining what I've already ruined.
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This is all gay. Julian is gay. Quit ruining what I've already ruined.
RUIN IT AGAIN THEN!!! Don't give up!!!
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This is all gay. Julian is gay. Quit ruining what I've already ruined.
with that type of attitude . . . you are unruining your ruinedness.
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This is all gay. Julian is gay. Quit ruining what I've already ruined.
RUIN IT AGAIN THEN!!! Don't give up!!!
You can't ruin something until it's.....ruined-er....Once it's ruined, it is just that. My work here was complete awhile ago. Somehow, you guys are ruining that.
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(Week or so ago,) I also noticed a semi-insulting and unnecessary post by him in the ticket exchange.
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Hey man THE WORLD CUP IS ON!!!!!
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This is all gay. Julian is gay. Quit ruining what I've already ruined.
RUIN IT AGAIN THEN!!! Don't give up!!!
You can't ruin something until it's.....ruined-er....Once it's ruined, it is just that. My work here was complete awhile ago. Somehow, you guys are ruining that.
we need professionals to ruin this thread.
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Yoouu rang?
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if anybody can ruin whole matters of time and space logic, let alone a simple thread such as this . . . it is relaxer. :P
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I've always been better at destroying than creating.
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Your resume checks out. You've been hired. Ok, now get to ruining shit.