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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Dr. Anton Phibes on March 12, 2004, 02:48:00 pm
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20040311-085521-1823r.htm (http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20040311-085521-1823r.htm)
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"Johnny went worldwide public with his partisanship in 2002, when the Ramones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At the microphone to give props to the people who made it all possible, he offered his own version of a Michael Moore moment.
"God bless President Bush, and God bless America," he said, clad in his trademark T-shirt, ripped blue jeans and leather jacket."
Yeah, but what strikes me as funny is that I'll bet 80% of the folks who heard that don't know Johnny's politics and think he was being a sarcastic punk!
He's obvioulsy a semi-tolerant fellow, though, as he pals around with Eddie Vedder, according to the article.
By the way, what was the point of the article, other than to highlight a conservative rocker, publish "his list of favorite Republicans" (how odd is that paragraph?!?), and point readers to all the conservative radio programs and websites in an article on a Ramone?
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All I can say is, if you're taking your political lead from a Ramone, you've got bigger problems than your politics... sheesh.
The question is, why do we care what musicians' political tastes are if it doesn't change their music? The Ramones aren't a political band, so I could care less what they think.
Then again, I'm currently struggling with Pedro the Lion. I liked his music before I listened to the lyrics and now I'm just creeped out by its unabashed christianity.
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Originally posted by Bags:
"Johnny went worldwide public with his partisanship in 2002, when the Ramones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At the microphone to give props to the people who made it all possible, he offered his own version of a Michael Moore moment.
"God bless President Bush, and God bless America," he said, clad in his trademark T-shirt, ripped blue jeans and leather jacket."
Yeah, but what strikes me as funny is that I'll bet 80% of the folks who heard that don't know Johnny's politics and think he was being a sarcastic punk!
He's obvioulsy a semi-tolerant fellow, though, as he pals around with Eddie Vedder, according to the article.
By the way, what was the point of the article, other than to highlight a conservative rocker, publish "his list of favorite Republicans" (how odd is that paragraph?!?), and point readers to all the conservative radio programs and websites in an article on a Ramone?
>>> That was THE point.....remember it was the Washington Times and they'll do anything to gain some support for a republican president on the ropes in an election year!
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
The question is, why do we care what musicians' political tastes are if it doesn't change their music?
Exactly, which really makes the article just another vehicle for listing all the "great conservative media venues..." Really no point at all. But someone should warn him to stay at least 10 yards from Ted Nugent. That guy can NOT handle a chainsaw.
I found this article (http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20040311-012946-4279r.htm) much more interesting...both on a literary level and in light of the recent FCC hullabaloo.
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Why would you be creeped out by his unabashed Christianity? Not very open minded of you.
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
All I can say is, if you're taking your political lead from a Ramone, you've got bigger problems than your politics... sheesh.
The question is, why do we care what musicians' political tastes are if it doesn't change their music? The Ramones aren't a political band, so I could care less what they think.
Then again, I'm currently struggling with Pedro the Lion. I liked his music before I listened to the lyrics and now I'm just creeped out by its unabashed christianity.
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Originally posted by bunnyballs:
Why would you be creeped out by his unabashed Christianity? Not very open minded of you.
Umm... if you don't believe in it, Christianity is somewhat creepy and gross. I mean, here's some guy singing to me that I'm saved (I don't want to be saved and didn't ask to be saved, thank you) and about some guy being nailed to a cross. Ew, didn't need that. It makes me happy with my agenda-free music. I like music that isn't trying to convince me of anything.
Though "When They Get To Know You They Will Run" is a great, non-Christian song. That one I like.
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
Umm... if you don't believe in it, Christianity is somewhat creepy and gross.
How about Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc...?
Are they also "creepy" if you don't believe in them? Or, is it just Christianity?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
Umm... if you don't believe in it, Christianity is somewhat creepy and gross.
How about Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc...?
Are they also "creepy" if you don't believe in them? Or, is it just Christianity? [/b]
You know, I've never been forced to think about it. The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less. Ever had a Buddhist tell you someone "died for your sins?" Ever had a Jewish person sing about how you are going to heaven if you join them? Has any other religion's text been turned into so many movies???
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less.
No, they just blow shit up
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Originally posted by Celestial Balls:
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less.
No, they just blow shit up [/b]
What religion are those nice terrorists of the IRA?
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post of the day award*
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
What religion are those nice terrorists of the IRA?
this website lists them under "political" extremism, not connecting them to any religion
http://www.meta-religion.com/Hate_Groups/extremism.htm (http://www.meta-religion.com/Hate_Groups/extremism.htm)
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
You know, I've never been forced to think about it. The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less. Ever had a Buddhist tell you someone "died for your sins?" Ever had a Jewish person sing about how you are going to heaven if you join them? Has any other religion's text been turned into so many movies???
Well, if I lived in Israel and weren't Jewish, I would be denied many rights. If I lived in India, I would hope to be one of the higher Hindu castes and/or hope not to be blown up by any of the many radical Islmic or Hindu factions that routinely make India the leader in terrorist attacks. And if you think Moslems don't get in non-Moslem's faces....
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
You know, I've never been forced to think about it. The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less. Ever had a Buddhist tell you someone "died for your sins?" Ever had a Jewish person sing about how you are going to heaven if you join them? Has any other religion's text been turned into so many movies???
Well, if I lived in Israel and weren't Jewish, I would be denied many rights. If I lived in India, I would hope to be one of the higher Hindu castes and/or hope not to be blown up by any of the many radical Islmic or Hindu factions that routinely make India the leader in terrorist attacks. And if you think Moslems don't get in non-Moslem's faces.... [/b]
Never mind the subject of that sentence... "I"
I happen to be sitting right here in sunny DC.
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Originally posted by Celestial Balls:
this website lists them under "political" extremism, not connecting them to any religion
http://www.meta-religion.com/Hate_Groups/extremism.htm (http://www.meta-religion.com/Hate_Groups/extremism.htm)
HA HA!
http://www.providence.edu/polisci/affigne/students/IRA/Nationalism.htm (http://www.providence.edu/polisci/affigne/students/IRA/Nationalism.htm)
A google search for IRA and catholicism will provide many useful links.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
HA HA!
http://www.providence.edu/polisci/affigne/students/IRA/Nationalism.htm (http://www.providence.edu/polisci/affigne/students/IRA/Nationalism.htm)
A google search for IRA and catholicism will provide many useful links.
As will a google search for IRA and Protestants.
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ira+mankie=916 results
ira+ggw=406 results
ira+markie=652 results
ira+bunnyballs=0 results
I guess I'm the only one here without ties to the IRA
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Originally posted by bunnyballs:
I guess I'm the only one here without ties to the IRA
Not true:
IRA+asshole = 4,890 results
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That's not a very nice thing to day.
What did I do to make your day unhappy?
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Celestial Balls:
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
The other religions seem to knock on my door less, invate pop culture less, and get in my face less.
No, they just blow shit up [/b]
What religion are those nice terrorists of the IRA? [/b]
Many hardline provisionals in the 70s and early 80s were radical Marxist/Leninists...true believers.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
As will a google search for IRA and Protestants.
I think you are meant to actually read the links....
but IRA Catholic 135000
IRA protestant 49200
IRA Hindu 13200
IRA Muslim 4600
IRA Jewish 103000
IRA investment 577000