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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kosmo vinyl on June 08, 2005, 08:16:00 am
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So who is making the trek to the burbs to see the mini IMPfest tonight? The most interesting act of the evening is Maximo Park who are playing earlish...
I'll be DJing in 9:32 from when doors open at 5pm until Keane hits the stage, so swing by for several cold drinks and fun tunes. Was cherry picking tracks from the Stiff and Nuggets boxsets this morning. So expect Department S, Wreckless Eric, The Move, The Easybeats, plus The Soft Boys, Do Me Bad Things, De Novo Dahl, Nic Armstrong, Prefab Sprout, Delgados, David Holmes etc, etc,
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Not I.......I'm making the trek on Monday to feed my Pixies addiction......one long ass trip to the wilds of Maryland a week is PLENTY for me......
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I will be there to see Maximo Park! I'll definitely stop by 9:32, Kosmo.
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i'll be there, but i'm stuck on this stupid chartered bus that won't get there til 7ish
grrr
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How long is the trip if leaving @ 530ish?
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
How long is the trip if leaving @ 530ish?
Sorry, from Bethesda?
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
How long is the trip if leaving @ 530ish?
last time i was there (radiohead a couple years ago), it took me more than 2 hours (no joke) from adams morgan
i've vowed never to return unless it's some crazy must-see band .......... like maximo park!!! see you there!!!!
jk, but i would try to get out of work early if i were you and skip the rush hour traffic, i'm sure it won't be a nightmare like my experience, but there will be plenty of gridlock
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I'll be there and early, hopefully, so keep one cold for me, Kosmo. Is the 932 easy to find? Never "done" Merriweather before so I'm the newbie on the scene. :D
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Holy cow - Did this show sellout? I just tried TM and couldn't bring up any tickets.
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count on an hour+... by then the beltway will be in fullon creep mode, you could take randolph to 29 but that will be slow going as well with all the freaking lights. taking 29N from the beltway might save some time, but during rush hour it's so hard to predict anything...
one way to potential save time is to take the alternative route from DC as listed on the Merriweather website. I did this for Neil Young and drove right into the parking lot and bypassed the bottleneck at 29 and Broken Land Parkway.
Take DC Beltway 495 to I-95 North towards Baltimore.
Pass exit 38B, go two more exits.
Exit onto Route 100 West.
Proceed to Route 29 South.
Turn right onto South Entrance Road.
Turn left onto Symphony Woods Road.
Follow to Main Parking Area.
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ok, apparantly i just got kicked off the bus trip..so i'll be driving up around 330/4ish
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
I'll be there and early, hopefully, so keep one cold for me, Kosmo. Is the 932 easy to find? Never "done" Merriweather before so I'm the newbie on the scene. :D
yup it's next to the lawn, look to your right when facing the pavillion. it's the black structure with 9:32 banners hanging across the front.
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Bombay: I had the same problem on TM with the Oasis/Jet/Kasabian show...it told me it had no tickets; and it's NOT sold out. I'd suggest trying to phone 'em.
Hoya: I'd have endured two hours in that horrible traffic for Radiohead. That must have been their last US tour? Lucky guy!
To Sonic and Jag and anyone else from up north; Rt 695 west was backed up - DEAD STOP - for fifteen miles last night at 1:00 a.m. due to construction. You may want to take another route home if you're goin' that way after tonight's MPP show! Thank God I was going East - and in typical fashion - traffic was going about 95 MPH thru work zones...Totally WHACK!
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thanks for the driving directions kosmo. will be helpful for pixies on monday.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
Bombay: I had the same problem on TM with the Oasis/Jet/Kasabian show...it told me it had no tickets; and it's NOT sold out. I'd suggest trying to phone 'em.
Hoya: I'd have endured two hours in that horrible traffic for Radiohead. That must have been their last US tour? Lucky guy!
To Sonic and Jag and anyone else from up north; Rt 695 west was backed up - DEAD STOP - for fifteen miles last night at 1:00 a.m. due to construction. You may want to take another route home if you're goin' that way after tonight's MPP show! Thank God I was going East - and in typical fashion - traffic was going about 95 MPH thru work zones...Totally WHACK!
you and hoya went to the Radiohead concert together?
and about the traffic, i never get on 695 on a weeknight after 9pm, cause they are ALWAYS jerking something around.
luckily, i dont need the beltway to get to work, Philly, or any other place i go a lot. :)
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There are lots of things I'd do for Radiohead tickets...and that's just ONE of 'em. :D
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
There are lots of things I'd do for Radiohead tickets...and that's just ONE of 'em. :D
i totally understand.
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I went to ticketmaster today as well to snag a lawn ticket and found that none were available. Emailed Merriwether and they claim it to be sold out..... amazing....
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i think you all underestimate the mainstream appeal of the killers ... i wouldn't be surprised at all if this sold out
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Still amazing, saw them in a tent at Coachella like 14 months ago, more people were interesting in getting out of the sun then actually seeing the band....
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
i think you all underestimate the mainstream appeal of the killers ... i wouldn't be surprised at all if this sold out
I didn't think Merriweather ever sold out. The last Radiohead show didn't sell out, did it? I saw them 4 times on that tour and Merriweather was the only one that wasn't sold out.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Take DC Beltway 495 to I-95 North towards Baltimore.
Pass exit 38B, go two more exits.
Exit onto Route 100 West.
Proceed to Route 29 South.
Turn right onto South Entrance Road.
Turn left onto Symphony Woods Road.
Follow to Main Parking Area.
Hey, Kosmo. I think I will try this alternate route. One question, though. It says Proceed to Route 29 South. Do I actually turn on 29? And if so, which way?
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
I didn't think Merriweather ever sold out. The last Radiohead show didn't sell out, did it?
Clearly, Radiohead are no Killers.....
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
i think you all underestimate the mainstream appeal of the killers ... i wouldn't be surprised at all if this sold out
I didn't think Merriweather ever sold out. The last Radiohead show didn't sell out, did it? I saw them 4 times on that tour and Merriweather was the only one that wasn't sold out. [/b]
i have no idea about merriweather's attendance patterns, but i would expect the killers to sell out before radiohead would ... there, i said it.
these guys are really huge right now.
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Take DC Beltway 495 to I-95 North towards Baltimore.
Pass exit 38B, go two more exits.
Exit onto Route 100 West.
Proceed to Route 29 South.
Turn right onto South Entrance Road.
Turn left onto Symphony Woods Road.
Follow to Main Parking Area.
Hey, Kosmo. I think I will try this alternate route. One question, though. It says Proceed to Route 29 South. Do I actually turn on 29? And if so, which way? [/b]
Mabye Sir HC can answer this definitely but... I believe that there is an entrance ramp from 100 on to 29 here so you'll want to follow the signs to get on 29 south.
I'm trying to figure if there is a route from rockville to columbia that doesn't involve the beltway... however it appears all roads in montgomery county lead to DC
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kosmo vinyl:
Go to mapquest and simply put in Rockville, MD for start and Columbia, MD for finsih. It should give you directions using 28E (NORBECK RD.), 198E and 29N. This basic way can be crowded but has saved me a lot of time in the past.
If it does not work on the first try in mapquest try again and chose avoid highways but it should work if you simply start at rockville, MD and end columbia, MD (no actual street addresses)
Jason
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
Clearly, Radiohead are no Killers.....
:) i love it!
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i won't be there.
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There are tons of tickets on craig's list that people are desperate to sell - I've seen plenty below cost. In fact, a co-worker of mine has 2 lawn seats he can't get rid of.
I, too, was in the traffic hell for Radiohead and haven't been back since... until tonight :D
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thanks... i work closer to shady grove so i'm shooting for getting on 108 east after a couple twists and turns.... but that route is certainly an option.
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From Shady Grove road you can take Muncaster Mill road (115) to 28/Norbeck as well... MUCH better than the 270 to 495 thing (in my opinion)
Jason
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don't i know it! have to go 270 to 495 everyday to get home to greenbelt... yuck yuck yuck even at 3:30pm
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ill be there at some point tonight assuming no more car fiascos. and if i get stranded guess it means ill have to call kurosawa or novadancer :)
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As I remember, Radiohead *did* sell out that show at Merriweather a couple of years ago.
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Would anyone suggest taking I-29 straight up there during rush hour?
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Would anyone suggest taking I-29 straight up there during rush hour?
For the radiohead show, my friends left DC right after work and were lucky enough to catch the encore. They were *not* happy!
So I'd say no.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
So who is making the trek to the burbs to see the mini IMPfest tonight? The most interesting act of the evening is Maximo Park who are playing earlish...
I'll be DJing in 9:32 from when doors open at 5pm until Keane hits the stage, so swing by for several cold drinks and fun tunes. Was cherry picking tracks from the Stiff and Nuggets boxsets this morning. So expect Department S, Wreckless Eric, The Move, The Easybeats, plus The Soft Boys, Do Me Bad Things, De Novo Dahl, Nic Armstrong, Prefab Sprout, Delgados, David Holmes etc, etc,
I listened to Wreckless Eric's Whole Wide World today.Thanks for the flashback.Excellent!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the Stiff boxset
"If it ain't Stiff..."
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FYI - They released more tickets. GA/Floor.
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Originally posted by My Cat Can DJ:
As I remember, Radiohead *did* sell out that show at Merriweather a couple of years ago.
I just remember having trouble getting rid of my extra tickets. That's why I'm thinking it wasn't sold out
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Would anyone suggest taking I-29 straight up there during rush hour?
:roll:
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are the killers' 15 minutes over yet?
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I remember not too long ago wanting to go see The Killers/Stellastarr* show at Fletcher's, and the Killers were opening ! And fletcher's is tiny.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the Stiff boxset
"If it ain't Stiff..." [/b]
I had been meaning to compile some of the songs from the Stiff boxset and was prompted to do so after seeing the latest Tracy Ullman special on HB0. She talks about how about all she got from Stiff was the T-shirt.
Stiff did release an amazing amount of great bands at the time. "Going Left Right" by Department S is alltime fav track. In fact Department S should be out suing all the bands that have copped their sound.
Full setlist later today...
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Any thoughts? Apparently a ton of schools got out today, so they all decided to descend on this concert to celebrate the beginning of summer. I figured that though...Makes me feel old.
Killers were good. My SO is a really big fan so she was loving it. We were in the GA pit which was pretty ridiculous. I normally dont get seats that good @ the 930...I felt like I was some sort of VIP, not some bored 9 to 5er with a lightning quick mouse.
Now I do think that this board can be way too hard on 'mainstream' artists (it is an indie board so what else do I expect) but officially blast away at Keane.
No matter what you think of Chris Martin, etc., to call them a Coldplay knockoff is the biggest crock of shit Ive ever heard. The talent, songwriting, cheesiness level is incredibly wide. Id compare them to the Partridge Family before anything else. I really thought I was watching someone perform at the Mickey Mouse club. The chubby lead singer would run his hands through his hair, while flirting with the teenagers in the front row. It was nauseating.
Really really bad. I could stay here and try to find more creative ways to say how they sucked, but Ill just leave it at that.
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Originally posted by El Tee:
Originally posted by beedubyah:
Would anyone suggest taking I-29 straight up there during rush hour?
:roll: [/b]
Actually worked really really well. Didnt hit traffic until we got to the concert.
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Originally posted by My Cat Can DJ:
As I remember, Radiohead *did* sell out that show at Merriweather a couple of years ago.
I just remember having trouble getting rid of my extra tickets. That's why I'm thinking it wasn't sold out [/b]
Yeah...it was sold out, but there were a lot of tickets floating around... I bought a pair the day before from someone (at which point the box office was sold out), and sold them on the day of when I realized that my ride was not going to get me there in time for Malkmus.
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So I had fun at the show. I was mainly there to see Maximo Park but enjoyed the festive atmosphere. Maximo Park were just as fantastic as I knew they would be. I danced like crazy and think I was the only person at the front who actually was dancing. If you were there, you probably saw me. They played nearly every song on the album. Highlights were Postcard of a Painting and Gone Missing. Can't wait to see them again on Saturday in NYC!
I'm not a huge Keane fan, but they had good stage presence. They captured the crowd and took over the place. (Yes, it was sometimes cheesy, but if you are in a big place, you need grand gestures.) They had a lot more energy than The Killers. I enjoy The Killers, but Brandon really needs to learn how to work the crowd. He has the magnetism, but he doesn't quite have the stage charisma. He needs movement, banter, and better timing. (You can't randomly stick the mic out into the crowd without some prep.) He seemed kind of awkward and not quite comfortable in the bigger venue. If you have a cool stage set (as they did), then use it!
Overall a fun time, though. I like little mini-fests. Even if you aren't so into all of the bands, it's still fun to hang out with other music fans on a sunny afternoon/evening.
One Merriweather comment: Still loving all of the improvements. But...Recycling, please? It's so wasteful to throw away all of those plastic bottles. Recycling cans would be so easy to install.
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
No matter what you think of Chris Martin, etc., to call them a Coldplay knockoff is the biggest crock of shit Ive ever heard. The talent, songwriting, cheesiness level is incredibly wide. Id compare them to the Partridge Family before anything else. I really thought I was watching someone perform at the Mickey Mouse club. The chubby lead singer would run his hands through his hair, while flirting with the teenagers in the front row. It was nauseating.
Ha! What's funny about this is that I'd rather see the Partridge Family than Coldplay, but that's David Cassidy (sounds like even he wouldn't be as cheesy as the Keane guy, anyhow!).
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Originally posted by distance:
are the killers' 15 minutes over yet?
Not to rip on the Killers for this, but you know what I'm sick of? The eight minute long 'Jacques Lu Cont' remix of Mr. Brightside. It was EVERYWHERE when I was down in Miami for the winter music conference in March, and DJ Sasha has been closing each and every one of his sets with it for three frikkin' months now. It's driving me nuts!
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Now I do think that this board can be way too hard on 'mainstream' artists (it is an indie board so what else do I expect) but officially blast away at Keane.
i'd beg to differ with you here ... while i (of course) don't speak for the board, i think most people here aren't just "indie" fans ... maybe i'm wrong, but it seems like most people appreciate a broad swath of tunage and many aren't afraid to say what they don't like
i just don't think that definition makes someone "indie", it just means that they appreciate music and don't mind looking for it instead of being forcefed
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We managed to get into the GA section thanks to the Merriweather staff handing out wristbands near the lawn - quite a nice surprise.
I know opinions are like a-holes (everyone's got one) but I loved Keane. Cheesy? Sure. But they had passion and filled the room with a lot of energy - which was subsequently sucked right out by the Killers.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by beedubyah:
Now I do think that this board can be way too hard on 'mainstream' artists (it is an indie board so what else do I expect) but officially blast away at Keane.
i'd beg to differ with you here ... while i (of course) don't speak for the board, i think most people here aren't just "indie" fans ... maybe i'm wrong, but it seems like most people appreciate a broad swath of tunage and many aren't afraid to say what they don't like
i just don't think that definition makes someone "indie", it just means that they appreciate music and don't mind looking for it instead of being forcefed [/b]
Fair enough. I do have the impression that many music fans are turned off by anything that is mass-marketed or has broad appeal.
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my take
i know the first act went on but you could barely hear her outside the shelter
maximo park were great although the place did seem a bit big for them, nonetheless they got more exposure for a first time visit which will hopefully sell them a few more records up front.
louis whatever = they give glam a bad name
keane = comfort food (but a least one person wasn't so comfortable)
killers = from what little i heard while fleeing the place, are they are hair metal band in new wave clothing?
and did anyone take the alternate route via 100?
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hmmm, I quite like them, good, albeit slightly histrionic songs, singer singing like he's got 5 mins to live and has to get this song out
don't listen to em every day but they have their time and their place
but officially blast away at Keane.
Really really bad. I could stay here and try to find more creative ways to say how they sucked, but Ill just leave it at that.
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I have to disagree with the evaluation of Keane. Fine if you don't like their music, that's a valid opinion, but I have to say, they brought a lot more energy and effort to their performance than the freaking Killers did. I was really disappointed in the Killers. They were lackluster, played for under an hour, and frankly, didn't seem to care all that much that 13,000 people turned up in 100 plus degree heat to see them. Maybe it's me - I have to admit I loved them a lot more about a year and a half ago, before they were so overplayed and having little bitch fights with the Bravery and all that crap. Or maybe they really just aren't a very good live band.
The Keane singer might be getting delusions of grandeur, but their songs are good and he's got a great voice. They are much better than Coldplay's current incarnation, anyway. Just because they are both kind of pretty sounding English bands doesn't make them carbon copies. I think Keane sounds a lot more like Travis than Coldplay, actually.
I think the singer might be compensating for some inexperience and awkwardness performing by doing the "rockstar" moves...when I saw Keane at the 930 over a year ago, they were totally green and didn't seem to know what to do, which I have to say was endearing.
Choosing what music to listen to based on what other people do is a losing battle. Yes, I cringed when the fratboy in front of me did the little faux-hip-hop whiteboy pointy wave thing for the 1,000 time, and I know he would have been just as happy seeing 3 Doors Down, but I can't let that ruin a concert for me. Sometimes good music gets popular...and it's ok.
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Originally posted by kled: They are much better than Coldplay's current incarnation, anyway.
Disagree completely. Keane is not in the same ballpark as Coldplay on many levels.
I think the singer might be compensating for some inexperience and awkwardness performing by doing the "rockstar" moves...
Or maybe, just maybe he knows that if this band has any future its going to be pandering to teen audiences, hence the David Cassidy impression.
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that was a beautiful post.
i was not able to go to this show, because my school is not out yet; and i still have exams :(
i really wanted to go.
i predicted that none of the bands would be great arena/pavillion/whatever acts, and more club bands...
i mean, of course 99% of shows out there will be better in a smaller environment; but i just felt that none of them could really rock a crowd that large...it sounds like i was right?
i, for one, am just a little bit glad that bands like this are going more into the mainstream. it's always going to suck when a great little indie band blows up, but so what? in LA, the killers are successfully played on indie, generic rock, AND pop stations. if a band can pull that off, well...more power to them. some of the fans might be obnoxious, but i'd rather america's youth be listening to this than some talentless rappers, or "acoustic songwriting chicks," that don't really write their own songs.
and on the keane note, never seen em live; but i totally think travis when i listen.
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Originally posted by eros:
We managed to get into the GA section thanks to the Merriweather staff handing out wristbands near the lawn - quite a nice surprise.
I know opinions are like a-holes (everyone's got one) but I loved Keane. Cheesy? Sure. But they had passion and filled the room with a lot of energy - which was subsequently sucked right out by the Killers.
Musically, Keane put on a better show. The Killers butchered a few of there songs. I'm not a Keane fan, but the Killers were a bit off last night. Indie Rock and Roll, my favorite song, was butchered by the band. Really poor performance on that song.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
did anyone take the alternate route via 100?
Thanx.
gonna use that route from now on.
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I agree that last night was lacking in energy and enthusiasm, but I know the heat was really making most of the performers feel really sick. They were not prepared for the humidity/heat, having just performed the night before in Central Park/NYC venues where it was in the 60-70's and dry.
I really loved the "festival" atmosphere - and I think IMP run a fabulous venue. Lots of food/drink choices, the 932 Club is an oasis of peace for us slightly older rocksters. Security reflects the 930 clubs' attitude of patience and reason over physicality and arrogance, and except for the ATM machines - which were screaming away all night - there weren't lines anywhere. (NOT COUNTING THE FRICKIN' TRAFFIC...BUT WE ALL SUFFERED THRU THAT). I read the earlier comment about recycling which I agree with; I would have paid $20.00 for a place to wash my hands..but then...I'm a chick!
What am I missing with Regina Spektor? I think I could sound better, and dood, I can't sing a rap song...I don't think it was just an "off" night for her either. I caught her recently on Leno, and was freakin' shocked at how bad she was...Tory Amos on crack?.... Maximo Park was great; I'd definitely see them again. Louis XIV, Keane, Killers? Well, yeah, I'd go see any one of them again - but none of them gave a "best ever" performance. I do believe - except for Keane who may have performed some larger European venues - the stage size/15,000 screaming fans may have caused some "stage fright". Fun night anyway! The sound system was awesome.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
I agree that last night was lacking in energy and enthusiasm, but I know the heat was really making most of the performers feel really sick. They were not prepared for the humidity/heat, having just performed the night before in Central Park/NYC venues where it was in the 60-70's and dry.
According to their schedule, they were in Boston the night before, where it was 89 degrees and humid. The night before that, they were in Providence - 87 degrees.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
What am I missing with Regina Spektor? I think I could sound better, and dood, I can't sing a rap song...I don't think it was just an "off" night for her either. I caught her recently on Leno, and was freakin' shocked at how bad she was...Tory Amos on crack?....
from the limited exposure i've had to her (one video on subterranean), i think she's a fantastically quirky singer who takes a rather stale female piano singer/songwriter and livens it up with a really unique voice ... plus she's getting the requisite NYC/brooklyn and blogger buzz (i think it's the strokes who are big backers), which is a huge reason why she's getting a shot
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
Originally posted by BadSushi:
I agree that last night was lacking in energy and enthusiasm, but I know the heat was really making most of the performers feel really sick. They were not prepared for the humidity/heat, having just performed the night before in Central Park/NYC venues where it was in the 60-70's and dry.
According to their schedule, they were in Boston the night before, where it was 89 degrees and humid. The night before that, they were in Providence - 87 degrees. [/b]
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Sorry, NYC was maybe - what three nights ago; include Philly in that somewhere. I'm only telling you what they told me.
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I totally agree with everything Kled said. I was so looking forward to the Killers since I missed the show at the 930 in the fall (procrastination) and have already seen Keane twice there. I couldn't have been more disappointed in the Killers... just didn't feel it at all. I thought Keane was great. I obviously disagree with the majority board assessment (hated hot hot heat and numerous other shows the masses have raved about), so what else is new ;)
And my trip was a breeze - very little traffic at all - but I took a route that was not mentioned from DC. In fact, beat a friend who left atleast an hour ahead of me... :p
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Addendum: those shows in Boston/Providence/Philly were indoor/i.e. air conditioned venues.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
Addendum: those shows in Boston/Providence/Philly were indoor/i.e. air conditioned venues.
I don't know the venue in Providence, but the BofA Pavilion in Boston is an outdoor covered pavilion like MPP.
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Originally posted by novadancer:
And my trip was a breeze - very little traffic at all - but I took a route that was not mentioned from DC. In fact, beat a friend who left atleast an hour ahead of me... :)
loved keane! seen them twice at the 9:30, and they completely blew the killers away. had great stage presence and seemed to really get the crowd into it.
like nova, missed the killers at 9:30 due to major procrastination and indecision, and cant say i was impressed with them last night.
had fun regardless. but i am not going to merriweather anytime soon based on that traffic nightmare!
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realizing it's the long way around but has anyone from NOVA ever gone up to Harpers Ferry going towards Frederick and coming across 70 to 32 for Columbia? Probably not a time saver but possibly less traffic..
of course i ended up in the "wilds" of northern montgomery county yesterday due to being on the wrong page of my ADC map when plotting the route... not much traffic just took longer :p
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Originally posted by eros:
We managed to get into the GA section thanks to the Merriweather staff handing out wristbands near the lawn - quite a nice surprise.
I know opinions are like a-holes (everyone's got one) but I loved Keane. Cheesy? Sure. But they had passion and filled the room with a lot of energy - which was subsequently sucked right out by the Killers.
I went to this show, was disgusted by the number of kids there, thought I had made a mistake, but then was convinced I was right by Keane's performance. I can't believe anyone would think Killers were stronger than Keane. Brandon Flowers acted like a gigantic tool the entire set; his effiminate melodramatic gestures that coincided w/ the lyrics were especially lame. My favorite part was when he tripped over his mic stand after a queer stride towards the front of the stage. Additionally, the rest of that band was entirely disposable. Poor fuckin stage presence. Keane on the other hand actually appeared to enjoy performing, and less concerned w/ maintaining an image. Tom Chaplin is a vocal superhero, and the three of them together are very cohesive. Fuckin LOVED Keane...
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I forgot to mention that I love keyboard players that play and dance at the same time. Both Maximo Park and Keane had keyboard/synth/piano/organ players that completely rocked out.
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i knew the teenset was going to be well represented at this show, without it the show would have never been scheduled at Merriweather and instead in a smaller DC venue... Same demographic at the Maroon 5 show. Parents don't have a problem buying expensive tickets to the "safe" venues.. As Kosmette said the current Killers song is like every third song played on the radio... Outdoor summer shows involving current chart topping acts will draw in the younger set verses say the Pixies which pull in older demographic and not as likely to sellout... do you really want a bunch of youngsters yacking away during "Wave of Mutilation"?
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Originally posted by LenardYorkton:
I went to this show, was disgusted by the number of kids there,
What exactly disgusts you about the presence of young people?
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My first post. I thought the stage would swallow Keane up but they did quite well. Killers were a disappointment, the stage just seems way to huge for them. They sounded ok but Brandon Flowers seemed a little tired, sheepish and didnâ??t really know how to work the stage or crowd. A little over a year ago they were opening up for Morrissey, now they are playing to audiences twice his size. I really donâ??t think they expected anything near this level of success. They all just seem like really nice ordinary guys (no big egos, etc) so I hope they can figure out how to shine on a big stage.
Sorry, young people are a nuisance because the majority of them could care less about the music. Except when a hit song is being played they are busy just bopping around, talking during all the songs, busy taking pictures with their camera phones or calling their friendâ??s at home letting them listen to the music. For the majority of them it is more about being seen than listening to the music. It is just an annoyance when you are there for the music.
Last, I had bought tickets through the pre-sale and had seats BBB (2nd row) pit. Show up and it was GA Pit. Donâ??t really think this was fair considering I thought I had a seat. Would have procured tickets above the pit so I could sit and see rather than have to be down there with a bunch of annoying teenagers (see above). Does anyone know when/why they changed the set-up. This really annoyed me and put a damper on the evening for me.
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Originally posted by AndreaRobb:
*Edit* A little over a year ago they were opening up for Morrissey, now they are playing to audiences twice his size. I really donâ??t think they expected anything near this level of success.
Sorry, young people are a nuisance because the majority of them could care less about the music. Except when a hit song is being played they are busy just bopping around, talking during all the songs, busy taking pictures with their camera phones or calling their friendâ??s at home letting them listen to the music. For the majority of them it is more about being seen than listening to the music. It is just an annoyance when you are there for the music.
Last, I had bought tickets through the pre-sale and had seats BBB (2nd row) pit. Show up and it was GA Pit. Donâ??t really think this was fair considering I thought I had a seat. Would have procured tickets above the pit so I could sit and see rather than have to be down there with a bunch of annoying teenagers (see above). Does anyone know when/why they changed the set-up. This really annoyed me and put a damper on the evening for me.
a few comments. one i am 30 years old, closer to 31. a friend called me on her cell phone during maximo park because i was caught in traffic. i was ecstatic! it was the one band i wanted to see, but unfortunately just didnt make it.
second, since when is morrissey playing smaller venues than the killers? i just saw him last year at radio city music hall and before that over at the apollo. while the apollo isnt as big as the venue of merriweather, over the nights morrissey played radio city (to sold out shows repeatedly) his fan base is still solid! do you think the killers can play 2 weeks or so at the apollo to all sold out shows? yeah, i dont think so. brandon can only wish one day he'll have as much talent as morrissey!
third -- get used to young people at these venues. killers are all over the radio on most stations. i heard them on 3 different stations on the drive to merriweather. ive used cameras/cell phones to take pics as well. im a fan, i enjoy the music and i want memories. i did get a keane setlist, and i was so happy i nearly kissed the sound guy! yeah even at 30 this stuff is as fun as it was when i was seeing shows at 15!
lastly, there were plenty of seats open outside the pit. i was sitting next to a guy in row O (its about 8 rows up), who had a pit bracelet on. he was told by merriweather staff to sit wherever there was an open seat if he didnt wanna be in the pit. so look around next time! and most people who had pit tickets for a killers show, surely wouldnt have been sitting down.
and there had better NOT be seats when i see coldplay in the pit section.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
What exactly disgusts you about the presence of young people?
What cracks me up about all of this "young kids" talk is that somehow people have forgotten that they too were young concert goers once and were just as despised by older fans of Van Halen/Nirvana/Love and Rockets/The Clash or whomever you saw as a teen and brag about now. It used to piss you off too, the lack of respect....
Guess what? You're getting old. Haha.
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I like having the young kids around, if they are the cool young kids, kind of slumping disaffectedly against the walls and glaring at me. But these peppy popular kids with their camera phones and active social lives need to go. I'm always afraid that the girls are going to start rumors about me and what I'm wearing; then I remember that I'm 29.
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
second, since when is morrissey playing smaller venues than the killers?
since the killers started getting constant airplay on the radio.
why is this such a hard fact for people to come to grips with on here?
i know it's a huge shock, but talented/not-mainstream acts play smaller venues and open for popular/mainstream acts which may not be as talented.
could we make that a sticky?
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I loved the younger crowd, with lots of chicks too - which is not the case at many shows at the 930 these days...I think it's demographics: guess who lives in the suburbs with mom and dad (or dad and dad/mom and mom/etc.)? It's safe, it's close, and those are "their" bands from OC soundtracks/radio/MTV. I had a great time in line with those kids, talking about music and road-trip experiences. I think they look at an old chick like me and think: "Hey, maybe this is something I can enjoy when I'm 100 too!" Generally speaking, there was little barfing/screaming/falling down...or gang wars...and unlike that crazy teen-zombie filled WHFS festival, the MPP kids seemed to be having a happy, fun-filled evening.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
the MPP kids seemed to be having a happy, fun-filled evening.
isnt everything happy and fun filled when you're a spoiled brat going to private school in Columbia?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
second, since when is morrissey playing smaller venues than the killers?
since the killers started getting constant airplay on the radio.
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It's a little more than that. Morrissey prefers more intimate venues because he's been around long enough to appreciate playing two nights to 6,000 people each night rather than 15,000 in one night where as The Killers (and their management) are looking to cash in as quickly as possible before their 15 minutes are up.
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Originally posted by BadSushi:
I loved the younger crowd, with lots of chicks too -
If I had a dollar for everytime I've posted that on the board....
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
second, since when is morrissey playing smaller venues than the killers?
since the killers started getting constant airplay on the radio.
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It's a little more than that. Morrissey prefers more intimate venues because he's been around long enough to appreciate playing two nights to 6,000 people each night rather than 15,000 in one night where as The Killers (and their management) are looking to cash in as quickly as possible before their 15 minutes are up. [/b]
thanx for articulating my thoughts! just what i was intending to say although wasnt even close to that! :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
Originally posted by BadSushi:
the MPP kids seemed to be having a happy, fun-filled evening.
isnt everything happy and fun filled when you're a spoiled brat going to private school in Columbia? [/b]
...as opposed to expensive private colleges and universities in Baltimore? Don't know: Never been spoiled or rich or gone to private school of any kind....
but I have been - and often still am - happy. :D
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i wasn't even at this show, but i love the input you guys are giving.
i'm 14 (15 in less than a month), i go to shows almost every week, and have been show-hopping in the area for a long time.
even i get annoyed when i see lots of young kids at shows. hypocritical? maybe, but trust me, you are all perfectly right--it usually means that they are going to sit there on their phones for the entire show. they are usually only there so they can have a story to tell on monday when they are wearing their hip killers concert tee...
it's really frustrating to be surrounded by that at shows, and i'm glad that i can respect musicians and am not one of "those kids".
if they are going to go to a show because they think the lead singer is hot, then they don't have to be obnoxious about it. but those people are ALWAYS going to be there, regardless of age.
you either shove away from them, or put your arm around your neighbor and divulge about your latest tanning bed experience. :cool:
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to all those slamming 14/15 year olds or whatever, i would have loved to have been in a situation when i was 14/15 where i could have gone to concerts semi-frequently, but i didn't manage to go to my first one til i was 16 and i didn't start going to a lot until i was 19.
if i had the opportunity i would be one of those kids now, except obviously move this time frame back to the early 90s rather than now and i think i'd be seeing much better music than the most recent crop of bands to get bigger.
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Its easy to knock the youngsters at shows, but hey, teens are teens. If you go to see the Killers you shouldn't be shocked to see 16-year-olds on cell phones. I don't go to shows popular with the teen crowd and I've seen some of the most obnoxious behavior from people in their 20s-30s. Watching a moron talk on a cell phone while an artist is playing is absolutely unbearable, especially when its in front of the stage. Crowdsurfing and moshing to everything under the sun is retarded. Drunks are at every show. The list goes on...