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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Got Haggis? on April 15, 2013, 04:03:16 pm
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/
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2 dead, 23 injured, 1 very confusing situation.
map of the bombings:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/15/us/site-of-the-boston-marathon-explosion.html
updated map:
http://images.scribblelive.com/2013/4/15/8db827d2-5c2c-4948-9208-132490581b49_800.jpg
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My wife has informed me that I'm no longer allowed to run marathons of any significance.
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Reports of a Saudi national suspect.
How shocking.
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NY Post has 12 dead and has already solved the case.
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My wife has informed me that I'm no longer allowed to run marathons of any significance.
If you don't run then the terrorists have won.
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Reports of a Saudi national suspect.
How shocking.
new reports of no one in custody.
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what a weird feeling to think and read of this story. this is why i dont feel safe in cities. people are crazy on small scales and large scales. attention is a hell of a drug, and if this based on some religious nutball, no matter what the religion, i think its time to relook at that religion.
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Reports of a Saudi national suspect.
How shocking.
new reports of no one in custody.
Cops saying they have no clue as to what the NY Post are talking about.
Why do people still give the NY Post any credence anyway?
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Reports of a Saudi national suspect.
How shocking.
new reports of no one in custody.
The media seems to have the best idea of potential suspects the authorities should be interested in...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosions-already-being-blamed-on-the-right/
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Is that Glenn Beck's site?
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Reports of a Saudi national suspect.
How shocking.
new reports of no one in custody.
The media seems to have the best idea of potential suspects the authorities should be interested in...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosions-already-being-blamed-on-the-right/
tax day
patriots day (in mass)
april 19 (the actual day of battles that "patriots day" honor) is connected to tim mcveigh/okc bombing
boston (city of the original tea party)
interesting . . . from a conspiracy nutball point of view, but still interesting. yes it sounds like a stupid novel plot, but in this day n age, i dont put anything past anybody. people are crazy. i blame the parents, the schools, and the tv.
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I mean he has every right to read whatever he wants but we also have a right to throw "lollerskates" at him if he brings that here.
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Proof is in the unprofessional jumping the gun that the media is guilty of time and time again.
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Proof is in the unprofessional jumping the gun that the media is guilty of time and time again.
Yes, "the media", especially the corporate and conservative varieties, often jump the gun but of what is that proof?
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april 19 (the actual day of battles that "patriots day" honor) is connected to tim mcveigh/okc bombing
Just to clarify, McVeigh's bombing, while on Patriot's Day, had nothing to do with Patriot's Day. It was the two year anniversary of the end of the David Koresh/Branch Davidian's standoff in Waco, TX, which was April 19, 1993. McVeigh committed his act on April 19, 1995.
But just to add to it, the timeframe of April 10-20 has always been a part of public tragedy in the US (Columbine was April 20, VA Tech was April 17) and personal hardships for me personally (two broken bones[ '90, '04], a collapsed lung ['96], an apartment burned down ['05] and a chronic illness diagnosis ['10]). I have always hated this week. I mean REALLY fucking hated this week and said so as much Sunday night only to wake up to this.
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Proof is in the unprofessional jumping the gun that the media is guilty of time and time again.
Yes, "the media", especially the corporate and conservative varieties, often jump the gun but of what is that proof?
http://www.humanevents.com/2011/01/10/the-climate-of-krugman/
The list goes on and on. The day of the colorado theater shooting, the media jumped on the blame wagon. Even Christopher Dorner, the infamous LAPD slayer, was praised by the media as they "could certainly understand" why he did the the horrific things he did and I should as well.
Apart from that, I was simply commenting on the media's inability to hold off when it comes to these situations. The discussion was about the possible subject in question that NBC claimed had been detained that turned out being completely unfounded. The article I linked was simply because it was the most cohesive example of this trend in the media. If I could find an article talking about all the prominent conservative voices jumping straight to international terrorism I would have posted that (and naturally, there was no trend like this out there). You sir had to take it elsewhere. But no matter, people like you feel the slightest criticism and react as you do.
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I am so sad this happened. I can't even put into words all of the friendships and fun times running has brought to my life. Luckily, all of our friends and their families were safe yesterday. My thoughts go out to everyone who died or was injured.
A dark day...
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And I WILL keep running.
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Proof is in the unprofessional jumping the gun that the media is guilty of time and time again.
Yes, "the media", especially the corporate and conservative varieties, often jump the gun but of what is that proof?
http://www.humanevents.com/2011/01/10/the-climate-of-krugman/
The list goes on and on. The day of the colorado theater shooting, the media jumped on the blame wagon. Even Christopher Dorner, the infamous LAPD slayer, was praised by the media as they "could certainly understand" why he did the the horrific things he did and I should as well.
Apart from that, I was simply commenting on the media's inability to hold off when it comes to these situations. The discussion was about the possible subject in question that NBC claimed had been detained that turned out being completely unfounded. The article I linked was simply because it was the most cohesive example of this trend in the media. If I could find an article talking about all the prominent conservative voices jumping straight to international terrorism I would have posted that (and naturally, there was no trend like this out there). You sir had to take it elsewhere. But no matter, people like you feel the slightest criticism and react as you do.
Stochastic terrorism (http://stochasticterrorism.blogspot.com/)
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I'm about ready to move out to Walky-land and live in a yurt.
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The Worst Conservative Reactions To The Boston Bombings (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/16/the-worst-conservative-reactions-to-the-boston/193638) [so far]
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i think one good thing that will come out of this tragedy . . . people will stop caring, maybe even watching these lunatic antigovernment "they are taking away my freedoms" and bring politics into everything that comes out of their mouths. like ratbastard. maybe people like that will finally be watched by the fbi. people like that do things like this. ruby ridge, waco, bunkers in backyards, foxnews, breitbart, drudge, mass collecting guns, the democrat is the "enemy", sarah palin, the whole thing. maybe people will start punching people in the mouth when they say "bammy this" and "libertard that." maybe we will shut them the fuck up, for a change.
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I thought the walkie approach to detente involved DSO and "herb".
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only for atomicfront . . . hes built like a linebacker, remember?
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Right-Wing Media Sleuths Try To Create The New Richard Jewell (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/16/right-wing-media-sleuths-try-to-create-the-new/193652)
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Bring on the Next Marathon (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/opinion/friedman-bring-on-the-next-marathon.html?smid=tw-NYTimesFriedman&seid=auto)
I'll run it.
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Friedman is such a tool.
And a (probable) liar. (http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2000/2000-September/016822.html)
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Bring on the Next Marathon (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/opinion/friedman-bring-on-the-next-marathon.html?smid=tw-NYTimesFriedman&seid=auto)
I'll run it.
Am running the Nike 1/2 next weekend in Boston Marathon colors (with my TNT shirt too of course)
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Bring on the Next Marathon (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/opinion/friedman-bring-on-the-next-marathon.html?smid=tw-NYTimesFriedman&seid=auto)
I'll run it.
Am running the Nike 1/2 next weekend in Boston Marathon colors (with my TNT shirt too of course)
And I'll be running Frederick on May 5th without fear.
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Bring on the Next Marathon (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/opinion/friedman-bring-on-the-next-marathon.html?smid=tw-NYTimesFriedman&seid=auto)
I'll run it.
Am running the Nike 1/2 next weekend in Boston Marathon colors (with my TNT shirt too of course)
And I'll be running Frederick on May 5th without fear.
:D
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Yes! Yes! Run like the wind and show those terrorists that we will not get chubby.
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Hoping there's some kind of blinding terrorist act next because these crow's feet aren't going to cure themselves.
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internet crowd sourcing pictures to try to find the bomber (could end badly)
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA
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internet crowd sourcing pictures to try to find the bomber (could end badly)
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA
whoa... crazy.
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Yes, that's just what these times of tragedy need: 4chan on the case seeking out justice.
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internet crowd sourcing pictures to try to find the bomber (could end badly)
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA
The one dude looks quite Ted K. esque.
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internet crowd sourcing pictures to try to find the bomber (could end badly)
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA
You mean they could actually find the bomber is ending badly? I mean anyone suspicious in photos from the scene should be investigated. It is useful to have a lot of photos of the scene. Hopefully, something from the photos can solve this.
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i think it is awesome. 4 chan can be evil, or can be helpful. just like satan. this will catch them hopefully! cameras everywhere i say. big brother is worth something . . . like saving your ass.
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Reports of an arrest made...
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april 19 (the actual day of battles that "patriots day" honor) is connected to tim mcveigh/okc bombing
Just to clarify, McVeigh's bombing, while on Patriot's Day, had nothing to do with Patriot's Day. It was the two year anniversary of the end of the David Koresh/Branch Davidian's standoff in Waco, TX, which was April 19, 1993. McVeigh committed his act on April 19, 1995.
But just to add to it, the timeframe of April 10-20 has always been a part of public tragedy in the US (Columbine was April 20, VA Tech was April 17) and personal hardships for me personally (two broken bones[ '90, '04], a collapsed lung ['96], an apartment burned down ['05] and a chronic illness diagnosis ['10]). I have always hated this week. I mean REALLY fucking hated this week and said so as much Sunday night only to wake up to this.
I've noticed that mid March is usually the start of yet another war. Mid April has other weirded out stuff.
Here's an article backing up all of the April drama (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/mid-april-often-brings-tragedy/).
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Pick any month and you can find all sorts of horrible shit that has happened.
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false alarm
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false alarm
No arrest per se, but a suspect is in custody and OTW to the courthouse. Supposably.
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false alarm
No arrest per se, but a suspect is in custody and OTW to the courthouse. Supposably.
That worked out great for Richard Jewell.
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Ah, the 24 hour news cycle.
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ah, the people who watch them . . . or they would not exist.
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Live local coverage
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon
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looks like they're trying to clear a courthouse to bring someone in, but things have gone crazy... anyone understand this situation?
edit: "Moakley Courthouse evacuated"
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/17/boston-medical-center-reports-five-year-old-boy-critical-condition-victims-treated-from-boston-marathon-bombings/gkKXBTqL2jyNhsC2Kz5GyO/story.html
"Meanwhile, the city?s federal courthouse, where a large contingent of media had gathered in anticipation of an appearance by the suspect, has been evacuated this afternoon because of a bomb threat. Hundreds of people are outside. A caravan of large law enforcement vehicles just pulled up. People are being pushed a block back from the courthouse. US Coast Guard and Boston police boats are also stationed in the waters outside the courthouse."
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Here's an article backing up all of the April drama (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/mid-april-often-brings-tragedy/).
Pick any month and you can find all sorts of horrible shit that has happened.
I was only speaking of things to have happened during my lifetime.
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per what's going on in my twitter, CNN appears is making stuff up and lots of bad info out there... and the courthouse was cleared not because of a suspect but rather a bomb threat. welcome to the 24hour news cycle..
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we need a good walky rant in this here thread.
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so . . . explosion in texas today? i say, i dont know yet. all signs want to point to "please dont be another lunatic trying to make some stupid point because of waco and okc." the dates, the fact it was fertilizer, so close to waco. i really am getting sick and tired of people with mental problems. maybe it was only an accident, but damn it, i am so controlled by conspiracy theories.
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http://deadspin.com/the-boston-bombing-witch-hunt-bags-another-innocent-kid-476001019
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http://deadspin.com/the-boston-bombing-witch-hunt-bags-another-innocent-kid-476001019
Well the person did spell "you" as "u" on his Facebook posting. Therefore, I have no problem with him being roughed up by the police. And he ran a 2 mile in high school so that is why he is at the marathon with a giant backpack? Let the police investigate he might have done it.
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(http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/image/suspect-2)
His bandmates in the Strokes must be shocked
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What is it with these fucking Muslims?
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So did Reddit get it right? There was a lot of crowing going on in my twitter feed last night about it, but it would appear now not shaking out at all. Plus, the Chan 4 "analysis" lead to scape goating innocent people.
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You'd think the dude would have been happy just scoring a rack like this:
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/4/19/9/enhanced-buzz-27352-1366379560-7.jpg)
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So did Reddit get it right? There was a lot of crowing going on in my twitter feed last night about it, but it would appear now not shaking out at all. Plus, the Chan 4 "analysis" lead to scape goating innocent people.
It sounds like a guy in the hospital, who lost both his legs, came to and described the guys that did it to the police. With all the photos shown about potential guys who did it is suprising their photos did not appear.
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What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
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What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
POTW
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When was the last time an atheist bombed anything?
What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
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When was the last time an atheist bombed anything?
What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
Probably Iraq...
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When was the last time an atheist bombed anything?
What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
there are hundreds of millions of muslims. because a few psychopaths kill in the name of their religion doesn't condemn all its adherents.
every time a mass shooting happens in this country, do we blame all white men? or all christians? or all americans?
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anybody up on their recent Chechnyan history?
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I said "What is it with THESE Muslims". Not What is it with Muslims, or What is it with all Muslims.
Still, if some kill in the name of their religion, how many others have the thought of doing it?
Fuck all religions. Except Quakers.
When was the last time an atheist bombed anything?
What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
there are hundreds of millions of muslims. because a few psychopaths kill in the name of their religion doesn't condemn all its adherents.
every time a mass shooting happens in this country, do we blame all white men? or all christians? or all americans?
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I said "What is it with THESE Muslims". Not What is it with Muslims, or What is it with all Muslims.
Still, if some kill in the name of their religion, how many others have the thought of doing it?
Fuck all religions. Except Quakers.
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster smite you. With bolognese.
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I said "What is it with THESE Muslims". Not What is it with Muslims, or What is it with all Muslims.
Still, if some kill in the name of their religion, how many others have the thought of doing it?
Fuck all religions. Except Quakers.
When was the last time an atheist bombed anything?
What is it with these fucking Muslims?
they have to put up with a lot of bigoted americans.
there are hundreds of millions of muslims. because a few psychopaths kill in the name of their religion doesn't condemn all its adherents.
every time a mass shooting happens in this country, do we blame all white men? or all christians? or all americans?
wait .. .i'm confused... i thought you were the guy who was shocked they were Saudis?
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I said "What is it with THESE Muslims". Not What is it with Muslims, or What is it with all Muslims.
ah, sorry. i wrongly interpreted your statement. it was unclear to me whether "these" refers to the two individuals in question, or was meant more generally.
Fuck all religions. Except Quakers.
quakers rule. only form of religion that i can get behind. i hit the jackpot and married a quaker.
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster smite you. With bolognese.
ramen.
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I think it's fair and unbigoted to say that Islam is a shitty-ass religion for the way they treat women and gays.
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I think it's fair and unbigoted to say that Islam is a shitty-ass religion for the way they treat women and gays.
And Christianity and Catholicism are any better? Read the bible.
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(http://www.migrationnewssheet.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/burqa-ban_BeauGiles-Beau-Giles-224x300.jpg)
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yes, islam is a crappy religion... as are most religions.
good quick read: http://egbertowillies.com/2013/04/19/interview-of-ruslan-tsarni-uncle-of-alleged-boston-marathon-bomberterrorists-video/
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I really don't think this was about religion..
God I wish people wouldn't jump to conclusions in their eagerness to throw around blame.
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anybody up on their recent Chechnyan history?
Probably not most of the "experts" yacking their heads off about it.
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anybody up on their recent Chechnyan history?
Probably not most of the "experts" yacking their heads off about it.
Michael Moore's tweet: (https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/325282635238760448) For past 4 days hundreds of "terror experts," "terror analysts" and pundits never said anything about Russia or Chechnya. They know nothing.
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For past 4 days hundreds of "online terror experts," "internet terror analysts" and forum pundits never said anything about Russia or Chechnya. They know nothing.
amended.
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Did anyone see the footage last night (on CNN) of the guy they asked to remove clothing and then put in the cop car? Then when FBI showed up they put clothes on him, took his picture and put him back in the car? When I saw him live in video he didn't look like either suspect. Today, I see photos of suspect no. 1 (without sunglasses) I think he looks just like him....yet suspect no. 1 is dead and they're not showing the video and say the person they initially nabbed is no longer of interest. It's just really weird he looked exactly like him.
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I think it turned out to be a case of wrong place wrong time for that one.. NPR said something about they thought he was a third person of interest and was naked because the dead suspect was strapped with explosives, so they were taking no cautions with him.
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Understand...and there was another in the crowd they said acted out and they arrested him as well...just thought it so strange upon seeing the personal photos of no. 1 without sunglasses and hat and they really did look a lot alike even same size, etc. (guess they thought so too and why they took the photos)...
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Did you hear their nut-job aunt on tv? She blabbered on for a half-hour before cnn stop showing her. She did say the older brother started praying 5 times a day. And that was better than smoking or drugs. Well with smoking or drugs he most likely would still be alive and wouldn't have killed 4 people and maimed tons more.
Also if my relatives had done something similar I think I would be keeping a low profile and staying out of sight.
And what is with that news journalist saying she new the younger brother and that he was a beautiful person?
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The relatives haven't really seemed to shy away from the cameras...
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this is the younger brothers (the one still alive) twitter account: https://twitter.com/j_tsar
(confirmed by google cache search apparently)
I'm curious if they are going house to house and actually searching them? What if you refuse to be searched? What about empty houses?
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this is the younger brothers (the one still alive) twitter account: https://twitter.com/j_tsar
(confirmed by google cache search apparently)
Jahar @J_tsar 16 Apr
@therealAbdul_ #heavy I've been looking for those, there is a shortage on the black market if you wanna make a quick buck, nuff said..
he's been tweeting since the bombing, and he's talking illegal sh*t... this person either isn't too bright, or is bat-crap crazy.
I'm curious if they are going house to house and actually searching them? What if you refuse to be searched? What about empty houses?
i'm pretty sure they have authority to go in without your permission (wouldn't be surprised if the Patriot Act allowed this, too lazy to check). and if they didn't have authority, they'd likely surround your house until they got a warrant.
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Got him like a duck in the noose.
Now hope he dies.
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Got him like a duck in the noose.
Now hope he dies.
I prefer to allow the justice system- hopefully there will be a justice system here- mete out punishment...but rather than focusing on killing him I hope the focus is on finding out what happened, who else participated, why was this done, etc etc..
the post 9-11 freakout and overreaction must not be repeated..
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think it's time to lock out this thread... and personal attacks are not called for, so everyone needs to back off on the name calling