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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 01, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
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His new album leaked.
Anyone heard it?
I'm on track five, and it is impresing me a lot. Danger Mouse's touch is evident. It's a whole lot less hip hop than The Information, which I liked a great deal as well.
Thoughts?
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I'm on track 5 too.
It's alright so far.
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I have to add that Walls is an amazing track.
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I keep having to start track5 over because I keep getting side-tracked by someone or something.
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I just finished the album.
I like that it's short (about 33 minutes). This may be because I've been on a 60's vinyl kick, where every record is less than 40 minutes long, but I just love when an album is concise. There are too many albums I've heard that are good,but they have a couple songs too many, and it ruins the album as a whole. So I love when an artist keeps things concise, like every Spoon album being so short.
After one listen, I like it, but this album will definitely grow on me. I love The Information now, but thought it was horrible after one listen.
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It reminds me a little of The Beta Band so far.
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Ehhh, I feel about this the same way I did about the new REM album. It's okay, pleasant enough, but just nothing all that exciting. I've fired it up twice today and both times, after around song 6 or 7, I said 'fuck this' and put on the new Made Out of Babies album, which is rad.
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did beck's religion ruin his music?
will beck ever play dc again?
please let it be at the lincoln theatre.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
did beck's religion ruin his music?
will beck ever play dc again?
please let it be at the lincoln theatre.
Well, since he's always been a scientologist, it couldn't suddenly start to ruin his music.
And I sure hope he plays DC again. And not in a secret show kind of way. I want a real Beck concert.
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his religion can still ruin him no matter how long he's had it. it's good at that. religion in general, that is.
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I don't think Scientology affects Beck at all, positively or negatively. He rarely talks about it, other than saying his father was a Scientologist, and that it's kind of like Buddhism. So he's definitwely not hardcore devoted. In fact, he didn't even confim he was a Scientologist until 2005. And when asked about what Scientology is, he replied:
"What it actually is is just sort of, uh, you know, I think it's about philosophy and sort of, uh, all these kinds of, you know, ideals that are common to a lot of religions....There's nothing fantastical... just a real deep grassroots concerted effort for humanitarian causes.I don't know if you know the stuff they have. It's unbelievable the stuff they are doing. Education... they have free centres all over the place for poor kids. They have the number one drug rehabilitation programme in the entire world (called Narconon). It has a 90-something percent success rate... When you look at the actual facts and not what's conjured in people's minds that's all bullshit to me because I've actually seen stuff first hand"
Plus, his songs very rarely have any sort of religious undertone.
If Beck mentioned Scientology in every interview, I'm sure it would change my views on his music. But he doesn't.
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yeah, but either (i can't 'member) steropathic soul m, or one foot in the grave, was very laced with ufo nonsense.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
yeah, but either (i can't 'member) steropathic soul m, or one foot in the grave, was very laced with ufo nonsense.
As opposed to the lyrics on, say, Odelay, which are perfectly linear and concrete.
To whit:
temperature's dropping at the rottin' oasis
stealing kisses from the lepers faces
heads are hanging from the garbageman trees
mouthwash, jukebox, gasoline,
pistols are pointing at a poor man's pockets
smiling eyes with 'em out of the sockets
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First off, I don't think youre talking about One Foot in the Grave. I haven't heard Stereopathic Soulmanure, but you probably mean that one.
Either way, Beck doesn't strike me as the type of musician that references his religion, or his personal life in general, on record without a rather thick layer of irony and wordplay. Maybe that's just me. And if he is referencing his religion, he isn't doing it in a crazy, jump on Oprah's couch kind of way.
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You should. Right now.
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
I haven't heard Stereopathic Soulmanure,
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Originally posted by nkotb:
You should. Right now.
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
I haven't heard Stereopathic Soulmanure,
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Is it similar to One Foot in the Grave? Because I dig that album.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
As opposed to the lyrics on, say, Odelay, which are perfectly linear and concrete.
Post du jour.
:)
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whatever, fact is beck's a scientologist and thats wacked..those guys are NUTS period.
i saw beck at the 930 club many many years ago and it was a pretty boring show i thought..since then many friends have seen him and insist he puts on a great show..
i do think his last few albums have blown chunks but thats just me..
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I have been really intrigued about those puppets Beck used live for a while. I dont know if he still uses them, but I always wanted to see them. But the bastard never did a proper tour for The Information. Maybe since Modern Guilt is more of a "rock" album, he'll put together a band and hit the road.
Putting his religion aside, I've heard a lot saying that Beck can be an ass to work with. Danger Mouse has hinted at it, and Wayne Coyne has done more than hint about it. But I think he's a very passionate musician, which ends up making him seem like an ass. I think the same was always true for guys like Bob Dylan and Zappa. Extremely talented and creative musicians, but more often than not, d-bags to work with. *Shrug* I happen to love all three of them fellows dearly, but still.
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One Foot in the Grave is as good as it gets Beck-wise for me.
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First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.
And regarding his comments that Scientology is "a philosophy and a set of ideals common to many religions". WHATEVER. Here's a little primer for you:
- A person is an immortal spiritual being (termed a thetan) who possesses a mind and a body.
- The thetan has lived through many past lives and will continue to live beyond the death of the body.
- Through the Scientology process of "auditing," people can free themselves of traumatic incidents, ethical transgressions and bad decisions which are said to collectively restrict the person from reaching the state of "Clear" and "Operating Thetan." Each state is said to represent the recovery of native spiritual abilities and to confer mental and physical benefits.
- A person is basically good, but becomes "aberrated" by moments of pain and unconsciousness.
- Psychiatry and psychology are destructive and abusive practices
And now the really fun part....curious about what a "thetan" is?
According to Scientology, when a person dies â?? or, in Scientology terms, when a thetan abandons its physical body â?? they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be dumped into the ocean off the coast of California. Says Hubbard, "If you can get out of that, and through that, and wander around through the cities and find some girl who looks like she is going to get married or have a baby or something like that, you're all set. And if you can find the maternity ward to a hospital or something, you're OK. And you just eventually just pick up a baby."
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Bingo...his stretch of albums, b-sides and comp tracks from the "MTV" single through One Foot In the Grave are pretty flawless. After that, I started losing interest more and more with each album. And I used to be a HUGE fan...I even spent way too much money on an original "MTV" 7-inch.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
One Foot in the Grave is as good as it gets Beck-wise for me.
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beck's barely a scientologist. he's not even OTI. that's like a jew who was never bar mitzvahed.
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Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.
I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet.
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Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.
I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet. [/b]
Sorry pal, he'll never get there.
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.
I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet. [/b]
Sorry pal, he'll never get there. [/b]
Fair enough, but honestly, what are the odds of anyone reaching the level of Dylan/Zappa? Dylan has done more for songwriting than anyone sle in any genre, and Zappa wrote some of the most complicated music to ever see any amount of commercial success. Views on his humor/lyrics aside, it's undeniable that Zappa was one of the most talented musicians to ever record. And as I've said, Dylan's influence can be seen on just about everyone that writes a song these days, so comparing Beck to these guys is moot anyway.
That being said, I still believe Beck to be one of the most consistently creative musicians of this generation.
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but beck put out an album with movable stickers and homemade videos. take that guy who sold a song to victoria secret.
and i love that description of the religion. sort of like buddhism meets something only out of the mind of a brilliant writer. way to go l. ron. we speak your name.
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The stickers were indeed amazing.
And the Victoria's Secret commercial Dylan was in, while very creepy, was hilarious to me, because someone asked him in the 60's what product he'd sell his songs to advertise for, and he answered woman's underwear.
Would it be more or less weird if it was a Zappa song in the Victoria's Secret commercial?
*imagines Victoria's Secret angels walking the catwalk while "Catholic Girls" plays in the background*