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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on July 08, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
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roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
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Same advice to you as I gave to Julian...I would duck if I were you.
We've been through this here before...
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Who was that crazy bike girl that used to be on the forum?
She was fun.
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Chimbly? I think she moved out of DC.
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You're wrong, but that's OK. I ride my bike to work and back on most days.
Originally posted by walkonby:
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
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for the confused:
http://dcist.com/2008/07/08/woman_killed_by_garbage_truck_in_du.php (http://dcist.com/2008/07/08/woman_killed_by_garbage_truck_in_du.php)
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Originally posted by econo:
Chimbly? I think she moved out of DC.
That was her.
I used to work for a bike/ped/transit oriented non profit and used to break it down with her sometimes. She was such a zealot....never good for any cause.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25573628#25573628 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25573628#25573628)
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25573628#25573628 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25573628#25573628)
the whole bike rental idea was attempted in my hometown. i think this version as described will work better - the ID card keeps people accountable for the bikes. in my hometown, they were free to ride. find one, ride it, leave it wherever. guess how long it took before all the bikes were stolen?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
Anus's are for poop to come out of, What's your point?
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The crappy part of this whole story is that it's reviving all of the drivers vs. bikers battles. The comment section on the Post's site has, naturally, descended into a pissing match and it is so depressing.
As someone who's been a daily bike commuter for years, I naturally fall on the side of the cyclists. Every morning and evening, I'm dodging motherfuckers who don't use their turn signals, don't look where they're going, drive in the bike lanes, pull sudden and immediate U-turns, throw open their car door without looking, and yell shit at me. (Anecdotal factoid: the vast majority of cars who drive like dicks and yell like dicks are SUVs from Maryland.) It's unreal, and I've stopped counting how many times I've avoided serious injury or death by inches.
The fact is, to survive as a bike commuter, you have to assume that every car is being driven by some dipshit who's not paying any attention at all. I am very quick to kick the hell out of any car that needs a good kicking, and you'd be surprised how many times it happens. It's kind of become like my morning coffee.
Right or wrong, driver or biker, this is a real sad story.
<img src="http://www.acc-tv.com/images/wjla/news/vidcap_bicyclistkilled0708b.jpg" alt=" - " />
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There are two kinds of cyclists on city streets. There's bike-commuters and there's the ignorant pricks known as bike messengers. Unfortunately, because of the bike messengers, cyclists in general are treated with contempt by the people in cars. Cyclists tend to treat all drivers with contempt because of the pricks who don't know how to use turn signals (which is actually a life or death issue for cyclists) or don't realize that cyclists have AS MUCH RIGHT TO USE THE ROAD AS THEY DO
Walkon....you're way off on this one mate.
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i just don't like people to die. i wish we could be sucked up into the sky like in cocoon and live forever. those old codgers were the best - don ameche, hume cronyn, wilford brimley.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
Anus's are for poop to come out of, What's your point? [/b]
i've heard they have other talents. :D
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
Anus's are for poop to come out of, What's your point? [/b]
i've heard they have other talents. :D [/b]
I must have a talentless anus then, because mine just expels poop.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
Anus's are for poop to come out of, What's your point? [/b]
i've heard they have other talents. :D [/b]
I must have a talentless anus then, because mine just expels poop. [/b]
No wonder you're so angry. Holding in all that gas must hurt after awhile.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
i just don't like people to die.
so your solution would be to pull all bikes off the roads because of crazy car drivers, despite bikes having as much right to be there as cars?
another fine example of walkonby logic.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
roads are for cars.
sidewalks are for walking.
bikes are for bike paths, not the city.
how many more have to die?
Anus's are for poop to come out of, What's your point? [/b]
i've heard they have other talents. :D [/b]
I must have a talentless anus then, because mine just expels poop. [/b]
No wonder you're so angry. Holding in all that gas must hurt after awhile. [/b]
I'm English and we don't pass gas...
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i just don't like people to die.
so your solution would be to pull all bikes off the roads because of crazy car drivers, despite bikes having as much right to be there as cars?
another fine example of walkonby logic. [/b]
Especially seeing as this happened on a cross walk.
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The people commenting on that Washington Post article have confirmed for me, not for the first time, that most of the commenters on the Washington Post site are total idiots.
I would say that goes mostly for the anti-bike road rage posters, who seem to be saying that this girl got what she deserved, but also for many of the pro-bike people.
Most of the commenters expressed not a word of sympathy for the girl or her friends and family. They were too busy using her to try to make their point.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i just don't like people to die.
so your solution would be to pull all bikes off the roads because of crazy car drivers, despite bikes having as much right to be there as cars?
another fine example of walkonby logic. [/b]
your summary of walkonby's post was longer than his post! awesome!
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Originally posted by very sonick:
your summary of walkonby's post was longer than his post! awesome!
:p
but i never claimed it was a summary... i was paraphrasing.
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Why is it that we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?
George Carlin
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
The people commenting on that Washington Post article have confirmed for me, not for the first time, that most of the commenters on the Washington Post site are total idiots.
i try my hardest not to read the comments on washpost stories (but usually fail, goddamn willpower) ... it's all exurban racists and trolls, immigration or crime stories are the worst
their political blogs are screaming out for some kind of moderated comments or commenter vetting system
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by walkonby:
i just don't like people to die.
so your solution would be to pull all bikes off the roads because of crazy car drivers, despite bikes having as much right to be there as cars?
another fine example of walkonby logic. [/b]
so according to you, everyone behind the wheel of a car is a maniac. and you call my logic strange?
relaxer - simple? yes?
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ban cars in the city. keep them in the suburbs.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
relaxer - simple? yes?
warts love my nipples because they are pink vomit on me baby yeah yeah yeah
waloknby
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Dood, I just have to ask...why are you a bike commuter? The shit you describe doesn't exactly sound like a fun time.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
The crappy part of this whole story is that it's reviving all of the drivers vs. bikers battles. The comment section on the Post's site has, naturally, descended into a pissing match and it is so depressing.
As someone who's been a daily bike commuter for years, I naturally fall on the side of the cyclists. Every morning and evening, I'm dodging motherfuckers who don't use their turn signals, don't look where they're going, drive in the bike lanes, pull sudden and immediate U-turns, throw open their car door without looking, and yell shit at me. (Anecdotal factoid: the vast majority of cars who drive like dicks and yell like dicks are SUVs from Maryland.) It's unreal, and I've stopped counting how many times I've avoided serious injury or death by inches.
The fact is, to survive as a bike commuter, you have to assume that every car is being driven by some dipshit who's not paying any attention at all. I am very quick to kick the hell out of any car that needs a good kicking, and you'd be surprised how many times it happens. It's kind of become like my morning coffee.
Right or wrong, driver or biker, this is a real sad story.
<img src="http://www.acc-tv.com/images/wjla/news/vidcap_bicyclistkilled0708b.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Dood, I just have to ask...why are you a bike commuter? The shit you describe doesn't exactly sound like a fun time.
1) It's guaranteed exercise every day
2) Have you seen gas prices lately?
3) The faint scent of sweat and effort follows me around all day, intoxicating the lady-folk
4) Have you seen parking prices lately?
5) It takes 15 minutes to bike, 45 to drive
6) Have you seen my gams?
7) The metro has become a hassle
8) If I take the car, then the wife has no wheels
9) One less car on the road is good on several levels
10) I'm all man
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relaxer: PWN of the day!
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
so your solution would be to pull all bikes off the roads because of crazy car drivers, despite bikes having as much right to be there as cars?
another fine example of walkonby logic.
so according to you, everyone behind the wheel of a car is a maniac. and you call my logic strange? [/b]
i was channeling you & your logic, i was running with your ban-all-bikes policy. i wasn't expressing my opinion/beliefs.
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Ghost bike is up
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Originally posted by anarchist:
ban cars in the city. keep them in the suburbs.
cant we just ban bad drivers?
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
relaxer - simple? yes?
warts love my nipples because they are pink vomit on me baby yeah yeah yeah
waloknby [/b]
what you said makes no sense in logic. what i say does. you may not agree with it, but what i say is laced with intelligence, and a maze of turns for you to follow to the end of understanding. if it goes over your head, then go back to school and apply yourself.
and that's walkonby to you. if you can't spell, go back to school and apply yourself. oh wait, i already said that.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
relaxer - simple? yes?
warts love my nipples because they are pink vomit on me baby yeah yeah yeah
waloknby [/b]
what you said makes no sense in logic. what i say does. you may not agree with it, but what i say is laced with intelligence, and a maze of turns for you to follow to the end of understanding. if it goes over your head, then go back to school and apply yourself.
and that's walkonby to you. if you can't spell, go back to school and apply yourself. oh wait, i already said that. [/b]
i'm sure they'll have a bike commuter program for three credits.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
relaxer - simple? yes?
warts love my nipples because they are pink vomit on me baby yeah yeah yeah
waloknby [/b]
and that's walkonby to you. if you can't spell, go back to school and apply yourself. oh wait, i already said that. [/b]
i'm pretty sure he was channeling brian walalace on that one with the misspelling and the signing the post.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
what i say is laced with intelligence,
Feces is laced with nutrients, but that doesn't mean I want to eat it.
Love your body, Larry
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none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
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sorry to ruin the fun. give me awhile . . . i'm sure i'll piss someone else off soon enough.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
What's there to be scared about?...Like Obama the messiah said, Iran is just a little country.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by walkonby:
none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
What's there to be scared about?...Like Obama the messiah said, Iran is just a little country. [/b]
iran doesn't have a leader who used to work for an oil company. iran's leader believes that the al-Muntazar or "hidden imam" is coming to spell the end of the world. and if it does not happen, he might just make it happen.
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A bike rider died while I was holding his hand. I watched the lights go out in his eyes. This was two years ago in Adams Morgan; dusk, rush hour. I was the first pedestrian on the scene. (Yep, to those who might slam me for holding his hand, I have advanced first aid training.) Since, I have NEVER felt at ease driving in DC...around other cars, pedestrians or bike riders. Human beings are unpredictable: Accidents happen. The driver of the car who hit him left the scene. The bicyclist was dressed entirely in black with no helmet on. The driver may have been unable to see him, but the driver was a true asshole for leaving. I never knew if they caught the driver/no police officer ever called me to follow-up.
I am now accutely aware of how many blind spots my car has, and how reckless some bikers are. It isn't worth "making your point" no matter which side you're on.
This week's accident happened on a street with a newly marked, separate bike lane. Even under the best circumstances, trucks/suvs/and most passenger cars have blind spots.
This is a tragedy for all. If you value your life, watch out for the other guy no matter WHAT you're doing. For those who can't accept sharing the road and sidewalk with other "assholes": move to Mars.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
You complete me
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
You complete me [/b]
EAT YOUR HEART OUT SWEETCELL :p
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
What's there to be scared about?...Like Obama the messiah said, Iran is just a little country.
did he say that or did he say
Here??s the truth: the Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear weapons, and Iran doesn??t have a single one. But when the world was on the brink of nuclear holocaust, Kennedy talked to Khrushchev and he got those missiles out of Cuba. Why shouldn??t we have the same courage and the confidence to talk to our enemies? That??s what strong countries do, that??s what strong presidents do, that??s what I??ll do when I??m president of the United States of America.
If you have the quote please let me know, because all I find when I search for it is a bunch of right wing sites saying Obama called Iran a little country that isnt a threat.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
none of this matters anymore. i apologize for being a snit of a snot with you relaxer. this thing with iran is getting pretty scary.
You complete me [/b]
Sorry, I mis-typed
You can eat me
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From the NY Times...and they don't come much more liberal than that.
The attack by Mr. McCain was prompted by comments Mr. Obama made on Sunday in Pendleton, Ore., where he urged engagement of the nation??s foes and said that ??strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries.?
??That??s what Reagan did with Gorbachev,? he said, adding: ??I mean, think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela ?? these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don??t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying, ??We??re going to wipe you off the planet.?? ?
Mr. Obama said in a Democratic primary debate last year that he would be willing to sit down, without preconditions, with adversaries like the leaders of Iran. He has since sought to draw a distinction between such engagement by an Obama administration and his personal involvement as president, saying the latter would require the Iranians?? meeting certain benchmarks.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
??That??s what Reagan did with Gorbachev,? he said, adding: ??I mean, think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela ?? these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don??t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying, ??We??re going to wipe you off the planet.?? ?
What's being argued here? Iran and Cuba are tiny countries compared to Mother Russia. Hell, they're tiny compared to California. And these countries are not creating their own alliance of Iron Curtain countries to the degree that Russia did.
Iran is unique to Cold War-era Soviet Union in that its politics are governed by religion. But its foolish to think that the current dick-waving between the US and Iran even remotely compares to the Cold War, which involved numerous other countries, was a driving factor in causing two American wars, was propeled onward by each countries' space programs, and was a major concern/fear in people's lives (in the US and USSR anyway).
Think about all the dramatic shit that came out of it. The Berlin Airlift, Korean War, the Red Scare/McCarthy, Bay of Pigs, Berlin Wall, nuclear proliferation, Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam, Ronald Reagan, Olympics boycotts, etc etc etc.
And THAT is why we need a Bicyclist's Bill of Rights in Washington.
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Who's arguing? I just quoted the messiah, who not only stated they're tiny countries, but that they pose no serious threat, which from todays events prove how wrong he is.
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he didnt say they dont pose a threat
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back to the initial thread....
there will be a ghost bike ceremony (http://dcist.com/2008/07/09/waba_to_host_ghost_bike_ceremony_fo_1.php) tonight.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Who's arguing? I just quoted the messiah, who not only stated they're tiny countries, but that they pose no serious threat, which from todays events prove how wrong he is.
So if you quoted him, why are you so conveniently leaving off the moneyshot of the quote. He said Iran does not pose as big of a threat as the USSR did. And he's right, ya daft punk.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
back to the initial thread....
there will be a ghost bike ceremony (http://dcist.com/2008/07/09/waba_to_host_ghost_bike_ceremony_fo_1.php) tonight.
if this would have a maid or other blue collar person that got hit instead of a biker, it would have never made the news.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Who's arguing? I just quoted the messiah, who not only stated they're tiny countries, but that they pose no serious threat, which from todays events prove how wrong he is.
So if you quoted him, why are you so conveniently leaving off the moneyshot of the quote. He said Iran does not pose as big of a threat as the USSR did. And he's right, ya daft punk. [/b]
I would actually disagree with that. He's mad enough to push the button. I never thought the soviets were stupid enough to actually do it. So he's a bigger threat than the USSR was, imho anyway.
Besides...just who the hell is the USofA to tell who can and who can't have nukes? They have them and are the only nation to use WMD's in anger......aren't they?
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what obama said is:
??Iran...we??re going to wipe you off the planet."
can we get back to bikers now
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how many people are killed in dc everyday?
does anyone give ten shits about them?
are their ghost vigils where they took their last breathe?
are there hipster shrines being erected in their honour?
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I went to this. Was anyone else on the board there?
Walkonby, I'm surprised you called a memorial to a cyclist that was killed while riding to work a hipster shrine.
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This is the stupidest shit you've ever written. Down the street from me there's a lamppost with a pile of rotting teddy bears and paper cards. It's been there for at least a year. Someone was killed there. I'm sure there are similar memorials all over DC. So yes, people give ten shits about those killed.
Would you call that a hipster shrine?
Originally posted by walkonby:
how many people are killed in dc everyday?
does anyone give ten shits about them?
are their ghost vigils where they took their last breathe?
are there hipster shrines being erected in their honour?
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Originally posted by econo:
This is the stupidest shit you've ever written.
:eek:
that's a pretty high bar!
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Originally posted by econo:
I went to this. Was anyone else on the board there?
Walkonby, I'm surprised you called a memorial to a cyclist that was killed while riding to work a hipster shrine.
i thought it was hip to ride bikes. most people on here agree. and yes, painting a bike white to make a ghost statement is the most hipster thing i've ever heard. i'm sure the person who did it was listening to some leaked album they brag to their friends about.
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Originally posted by econo:
This is the stupidest shit you've ever written. Down the street from me there's a lamppost with a pile of rotting teddy bears and paper cards. It's been there for at least a year. Someone was killed there. I'm sure there are similar memorials all over DC. So yes, people give ten shits about those killed.
Would you call that a hipster shrine?
Originally posted by walkonby:
how many people are killed in dc everyday?
does anyone give ten shits about them?
are their ghost vigils where they took their last breathe?
are there hipster shrines being erected in their honour?
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you proved me wrong. thank you. but one example is hardly people giving a shit. the boobs of dc who do nothing about the daily violence by turning a blind eye and hoping it goes away someday, prove what i say is true.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
what obama said is:
??Iran...we??re going to wipe you off the planet."
can we get back to bikers now
Yes he did....during one of his now numerous flip flops.
Okay, now back to cyclists.
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here's something that....
Whenever there is a tragedy, loss of life, whatever....the community/group of people that are affected get together to rally around and support one another...when a cyclist is killed, other cyclists get together and make a memorial....when a jogger is killed...likewise...when women get raped, other women band together and form watch groups or whatever. Just because there are certain groups of people who DONT stick together and take action when one of their own is taken, doesnt mean no one else can.
I can see your point if the mayor of DC made it "national dont hit the poor cyclists day" tomorrow, but this was done by friends and neighbors...not everyone can care every time anything bad happens to anyone..we'd all be worried sick and grieving all the time.
think logically for a second.
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i thought about this long and hard. someone did die. horribly. i'm an imbecile.