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Title: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 11, 2018, 01:29:10 pm
Last nite's Killing Joke was the last concert on my schedule until Nick comes to town next month.

I am a very casual fan of his and have wanted to see him in the past but it never worked out.  Now that I do have a ticket, I ought to get familiar with his music.

Planning to work my way backwards.  Is there a better way I should try to tackle his catalog?

Thanks in advance.....
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2018, 01:31:56 pm
Start like I fortuitously did : let love in


Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 11, 2018, 01:52:24 pm
That one is a priority for sure.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2018, 02:12:57 pm
Nick cave has quietly amassed a great body of work with few valleys...you could start with Boys Next Door (Shivers) go to birthday party and just go album by album of Nick cave and the bad seeds (and the bad seeds are important) and Grinderman and be the richer for it!

He is such a great live performer though...

Another great entry point in my opinion is the underrated “Live Seeds” record!

Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: chaz on September 11, 2018, 02:17:24 pm
Start at the beginning.  Get to the end.  It's all good.  If I had to pick a few....and these are listed in the order of their release...

From Her to Eternity
Let Love In
Murder Ballads
No More Shall We Part
Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus

But even picking this many is so hard.

Or maybe just the Best of compilation he released a few years ago.  That should get you started.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 11, 2018, 02:17:38 pm
the underrated “Live Seeds” record!
I think that was my introduction to Mr. Cave and Deanna on that is just the bee's knees
One of my favorite Live albums by any artist

His run of albums from 1990-97 are my sweet spot

Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2018, 02:24:32 pm
We definitely rocked out to live seeds plenty in that sporty car (what was it?) you had


We probably even drove to see him in 94 or 95 Lola listening to live seeds


His live act is on another level and live seeds captures that....he’s a whirling dervish and rather demonic live...exceptional
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2018, 02:27:04 pm
Jubilee Street at the Strathmore show is one of my favorite live performances ever...gives me goosebumps recalling it...made the album version seem like parsley


Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 11, 2018, 02:32:46 pm
Thanks everyone!

Live Seeds. Compilation. Back to front. I think that's the plan.

In a perfect world I'd start at the beginning but I'm not sure I have time for that. Need to give the albums time to sink in.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 11, 2018, 02:36:37 pm
you might want to add Live at the Royal Albert Hall so you have some of his post 93 stuff
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Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2018, 02:37:22 pm
I fell in love with Nick Cave when he played Jubilee Street live. I was always a fan, but the live version of that song is just perfection in every way.

I would also watch One More Time with Feeling after listening to some albums.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 11, 2018, 02:50:10 pm
Thanks. Will add that live album.  Looks like the film is on Amazon Prime.

I should have started months ago but I got lost in a Jesus Lizard kick. No regrets.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2018, 02:17:26 pm
hows the research going?
up to speed yet
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 28, 2018, 06:29:32 pm
Going well. So far:

Skeleton Tree
Push away the Sky
Tender Prey
Let Love In
... and some live stuff.

The guy is amazing. Kills me that I didn't get into him earlier.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 15, 2018, 11:40:37 am
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/7cc6a927399260e077f2586b82616aa8/tumblr_onwzwu1tQH1tcarlro1_r1_540.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/75dd2bed9f3cfea84ab8e8d53693f5a8/tumblr_p5hy3hc9Ip1ty32iuo1_540.png)
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Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2018, 09:44:42 am
.... i agree though some of these old classics could at least be rotated
agreed
he still plays 6 of the 11 songs off of Live Seeds ...recorded in 92
they are some of my favorites, but pretty much the only old songs you ever hear

personally glad he's dropped DigLazDig and grinderman stuff
would love to get Breathless off Lyre...he's pulled that out a few times
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2018, 12:45:52 pm
Surprised Mercy Seat has left the set lists...and replaced with City of Refuge ...

the stripped down version of Mercy Seat he's been doing is awesome!
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Space Freely on October 25, 2018, 12:49:24 pm
One of those artists I simply can't stand. His music is grating and his voice is overwrought and annoying. Tell me why I'm supposed to like him.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2018, 01:21:20 pm
Ugh ...you are not “supposed” to like anything
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 25, 2018, 04:04:34 pm
Agreed. You don't have to like anyone. There are plenty of artists that I can't stand. To each, their own.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: gavroche on October 26, 2018, 10:19:31 am
As always a reall enjoyable show by Mr. Cave and company.  He's just an amazing performer.  Other than the soft opening for the Foo Fighters this is the only time I've been to the Anthem where it didn't just feel cavernous.  I think so much of that is because Nick used the entirety of the stage and interacted with the audience so effectively.  (It didn't hurt that I was pretty far forward).

I didn't love the new album initially other than Jesus Alone but it's growing on me and I think the new stuff actually works better in concert than it does on the record.

Setlist was to be expected, though it was nice to hear them play City of Refuge.  I missed the Dig tour, so I'd like to hear a couple of those songs added (Night of the Lotus Eaters for instance or More News from Nowhere). 

Even if I knew the setlist would be exactly the same I would go back to see them again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2018, 10:37:08 am
Mr. Cave and company.  He's just an amazing performer.
Nick used the entirety of the stage and interacted with the audience so effectively. 

 I think the new stuff actually works better in concert than it does on the record.

Even if I knew the setlist would be exactly the same I would go back to see them again tomorrow.
agree on all points
I'd see that show 10 times a year if I could

I was worried it was going to be very slow and subdued like the 'Distant Sky' ep that just came out
but he was rocking it hard last night
Mercy Street/FHTE/Tupelo were worth the price of admission
and he of course burnt the house down with Stagger lee

sound and capacity were perfect (stage seemed really far out)
Was nice hanging with K8T, Dyec and Yada preshow....didn't see any of you inside
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: K8teebug on October 26, 2018, 11:22:54 am
Great hanging with you all beforehand! We were up on the third floor for the show.

Just a fucking incredible night. I don't even give a shit that I had one or two mistake beers and still have to be a productive worker bee today.

Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 26, 2018, 11:31:30 am
It was everything I'd hoped for from the band. Probably the best show ive seen at Anthem so far. Will definitely see them again when they roll through town.

Openers were ok but got kind of monotonous after a while. Chatter from the crowd was nearly as loud as they were.

Arrived at 7 and the garage was already full. Found a spot down by Arena Stage and still made it back for happy hour. All in all everything went really well last night.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2018, 12:01:55 pm
I had one or two mistake beers

please explain.  i'm unfamiliar with this concept.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: K8teebug on October 26, 2018, 12:52:00 pm
I had one or two mistake beers

please explain.  i'm unfamiliar with this concept.

When you plan on 2-3 beers and then you're having fun and have 4-5 instead and then wake up with a mild headache and realize you should have quit when you were feeling good and that last beer or so was a mistake. Hence, mistake beers.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on October 26, 2018, 01:09:37 pm
I had a mistake bottle of champagne
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: dyecraig on October 29, 2018, 01:52:58 pm
henry's dream doesn't get a lot of love, but I think it's a pretty amazing mix of all my favorite nicks, produced by david briggs, who did many albums with neil young.
papa won't leave you, henry; straight to you; john finn's wife; jack the ripper and the astonishing christina the astonishing.
a pretty solid record.
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2018, 02:52:04 pm
I had not realized Briggs produced it....it makes sense as Cave is very influenced by Neil
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: K8teebug on October 30, 2018, 03:19:13 pm
I had a mistake bottle of champagne

There's a reason I did not have any champagne!!!
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2019, 03:52:23 pm
Gem tweet:

https://twitter.com/jackseale/status/1096375804035039232
Title: Re: Nick Cave - Where Should I Start?
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2019, 01:51:57 am
nick makes the front page of cnn.com:

A rock star was asked what God's voice sounds like. His answer is beautiful (https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/29/world/nick-cave-god-religion/index.html)