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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: grover.37 on April 05, 2023, 10:21:00 pm
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Does anyone have any insight as to how the lottery will be executed?
For example, you could get 12 entries for your first choice, 11 for your second... one for your twelfth pick.. and then just a random draw of all entries for each show.
OR they could choose names and then you get your first pick. If that's not available, then your second pick. Etc.
There are a number of different ways this could be done, and it has implications for your choices (even though I think the hype machine will make lottery chances extraordinarily slim and the re-sale market is probably the best bet).
Has anyone heard anything?
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Great question. No idea.
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I DEMAND A RECOUNT! WHATEVER TICKETS I DIDN'T GET CAN ONLY BE ATTRIBUTED TO FRAUD, THEFT AND COMMUNISM!!!
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Grover, my man, great question. Unfortunately rules dictate you must have 100 posts on here to get the super secret link for Forum members to bypass the lottery and buy tickets directly. :(
The integers thread is over there, and you still have 24.5 hours. Good luck.
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I don't get your question, but put the show or shows you want to see the most first... and no, you can't list 12 foo fighters shows
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Since we all know Seth is a woke globalist communist, here is what I propose the most DEI method would be.
1. If you are trans, you get all the shows you want.
2. If you are not trans, these are the rules.
You'll notice that they say they will be dropping the results by show throughout the week. Hence Let's say they do Foo Fighters first. If your first choice is Foo Fighters, you're in the lottery. They pick 225 Foo Fighter winners (assume everyone wants two ticket, adjust the 225 depending on...) If your first choice is not Foo Fighters, you're not getting Foo Fighters tickets.
Next up is the Walkmen. 30 people have them as first choice. They get the tickets. 30 more have them as second choice. They get tickets. All 450 tickets are gone by say round seven. If you had them in your first seven picks, you got the tickets. If you didn't, you don't.
Ok, next band they draw for is Tank and the Bangas. Let's say five people had them as their first choice. They get the tickets. Then lets say five more had them as second choice. They get the tickets. Then after 12 rounds (or is it 11(?),) they find that maybe they've sold half the tickets. At that point (or more likely waiting until the next week when all the lotteries are over), they put the leftover tickets onsale to the general public for half price.
I think that covers the three main possibilities.
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Thanks for the definitive answer of how this will all work.
Since we all know Seth is a woke globalist communist, here is what I propose the most DEI method would be.
1. If you are trans, you get all the shows you want.
2. If you are not trans, these are the rules.
You'll notice that they say they will be dropping the results by show throughout the week. Hence Let's say they do Foo Fighters first. If your first choice is Foo Fighters, you're in the lottery. They pick 225 Foo Fighter winners (assume everyone wants two ticket, adjust the 225 depending on...) If your first choice is not Foo Fighters, you're not getting Foo Fighters tickets.
Next up is the Walkmen. 30 people have them as first choice. They get the tickets. 30 more have them as second choice. They get tickets. All 450 tickets are gone by say round seven. If you had them in your first seven picks, you got the tickets. If you didn't, you don't.
Ok, next band they draw for is Tank and the Bangas. Let's say five people had them as their first choice. They get the tickets. Then lets say five more had them as second choice. They get the tickets. Then after 12 rounds (or is it 11(?),) they find that maybe they've sold half the tickets. At that point (or more likely waiting until the next week when all the lotteries are over), they put the leftover tickets onsale to the general public for half price.
I think that covers the three main possibilities.
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Thanks for the definitive answer of how this will all work.
Since we all know Seth is a woke globalist communist, here is what I propose the most DEI method would be.
1. If you are trans, you get all the shows you want.
2. If you are not trans, these are the rules.
You'll notice that they say they will be dropping the results by show throughout the week. Hence Let's say they do Foo Fighters first. If your first choice is Foo Fighters, you're in the lottery. They pick 225 Foo Fighter winners (assume everyone wants two ticket, adjust the 225 depending on...) If your first choice is not Foo Fighters, you're not getting Foo Fighters tickets.
Next up is the Walkmen. 30 people have them as first choice. They get the tickets. 30 more have them as second choice. They get tickets. All 450 tickets are gone by say round seven. If you had them in your first seven picks, you got the tickets. If you didn't, you don't.
Ok, next band they draw for is Tank and the Bangas. Let's say five people had them as their first choice. They get the tickets. Then lets say five more had them as second choice. They get the tickets. Then after 12 rounds (or is it 11(?),) they find that maybe they've sold half the tickets. At that point (or more likely waiting until the next week when all the lotteries are over), they put the leftover tickets onsale to the general public for half price.
I think that covers the three main possibilities.
You're welcome. I know Seth and staff read the forum constantly, so I figured if I posted it here early enough, they'd have time to program it.
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I mean what you explained makes sense, but I see the process being much more random and simplified.
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I am not sure what the most equitable way to do this is….Lots of questions
What about a person who wants tickets for just one show vs one that puts in for ten? What about a person who puts in for one ticket vs two? Also is it fair to kick someone down because they put in for Foos where your odds must be like 0.1%?
I admit logic is not my forte though…
Also talk of people putting in ticket requests from places as far as Australia! Should it be limited to locals?
Also wondering if there will be a dry run like the Anthem had? Guessing not
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I mean what you explained makes sense, but I see the process being much more random and simplified.
Correct, which is why it's called a lottery. Space's method sounds good on the internet, but it ain't happening.
Additionally, that's why I put in for 12 shows, because the likely hood of landing any of these is prob. slim to none unless your #1 pick is Banga Boys or Haniball Lector.
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I feel like I made a mistake thinking getting 1 tix would increase my odds
My feeling is that shows like the Foos and other stadium-sized acts (which there are a few)
You have to have it first and then be that lucky .001% to nab one of those 300 tickets (I think there is going to be at least a 150-person guest list for this first show)
because the qty is so small for each show, seems silly that anyone who has more than a 3 picks will get any of those shows
I think the best odds would be to pick one of the less popular acts as your 1st pick Bartels/Tank/Matt&Kim/Hannible
seems like they should have just said: Pick your top 3 in order
I really don't think anyone's #3 pick will get selected, the odds just are not there
What I think might be a good idea is
Round 1: only 400 tickets and then randomly select 400 from the #1 picks
Round 2: 40 tickets: randomly select from #2 picks
Round 3: 10 tickets: randomly select from anyone who picked that band at any pick
I know this is not the way, but this is the way I'd do it
Hutch are you still working on that Sim game where you run a music venue, I think the 10 people on this board would play
Also wondering if there will be a dry run like the Anthem had? Guessing not
I mean they do need to test out things and get the staff ready
I'm sure they will have something, but at that capacity, they really don't even have to sell tickets, there are enough IMP staff to fill it
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I'm only putting my hat in the ring for one show, because quite frankly I don't want a 12x$55 or 12x$100 charge on my credit card. As remote as that possibility is.
I mean what if the sounds sucks, or there are rats, or a poll in the middle of the floor?
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They best rock band in america has been doing a lottery for 30+ years, this isn't some new science friends. It's a lottery...
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I'm only putting my hat in the ring for one show, because quite frankly I don't want a 12x$55 or 12x$100 charge on my credit card.
for the record, they only do a $1 credit at first
and there is no way you'd get 12 shows...no way
and if you did, there will be a fan-to-fan resale option, so you won't have to hold on to them either
they are not transferable
Also if you get two tix, both people have to arrive at the same time
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I'm only putting my hat in the ring for one show, because quite frankly I don't want a 12x$55 or 12x$100 charge on my credit card.
Space... Aren't you a mathmetican or something?
1. You're not going to hit all 12
2. If you did, my assumption is you're not picking the bands that shouldn't be $44
3. You'll be able to sell them immediately on the ticket exchange if it really put you in that much of a pickle
4. That $1200 will go towards points to the next $pace family vacation that you can post about for the next year.
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They best stinkiest rock Hamband in america has been doing a lottery for 30+ years, this isn't some new science friends. It's a lottery...
FTFY
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They best rock band in america has been doing a lottery for 30+ years, this isn't some new science friends. It's a lottery...
Night Ranger?
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I feel like I made a mistake thinking getting 1 tix would increase my odds
Yeah, I feel like this wouldn't affect your chances either positively or negatively.
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Why would they ask you to prioritize your show preferences if it’s not going to affect anything?
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I feel like I made a mistake thinking getting 1 tix would increase my odds
Yeah, I feel like this wouldn't affect your chances either positively or negatively.
more meaning I should have just put in 2 for every show as I know at least yada would join me at the tank and bangas show
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Why would they ask you to prioritize your show preferences if it’s not going to affect anything?
Oh I think it will be used, but unlikely that anyone will get picks 3-12 or even pick 2
again, maybe they hold some back for people who had it as pick 2-12, but I think there are going to be 450 #1s for most shows
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You mean 250 #1’s!
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They best rock band in america has been doing a lottery for 30+ years, this isn't some new science friends. It's a lottery...
[insert Ween joke here]
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I think you need to insert a Phish joke.
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and if you did, there will be a fan-to-fan resale option, so you won't have to hold on to them either
they are not transferable
are you contradicting yourself here? "there will be a fan-to-fan resale option" VS. "they are not transferable"?
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and if you did, there will be a fan-to-fan resale option, so you won't have to hold on to them either
they are not transferable
are you contradicting yourself here? "there will be a fan-to-fan resale option" VS. "they are not transferable"?
same as the Cure
You can do the fan-to-fan thing...but you can't pick the fan who gets it
nor can you transfer the ticket to someone via the app
But I agree it sounds contradictory
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You can do the fan-to-fan thing...but you can't pick the fan who gets it
d'oh. hadn't occurred to me that you can't pick who you are transferring them to... makes sense, to thwart scalpers.
the "fan-to-fan" label tripped me up. sound very face-to-face, as in you do get to select. my bad.
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One of the things Robert Smith got wind of with dealing with the ticket brokers for The Cure shows, was some were trying to get around the system by selling the password to the account with the tickets and not the tickets themselves... Needless to say more all caps Tweets and order cancellations happened as a result... this could easily happen with these tickets, interesting to see if there are safeguards in place for this scheme...
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One of the things Robert Smith got wind of with dealing with the ticket brokers for The Cure shows, was some were trying to get around the system by selling the password to the account with the tickets and not the tickets themselves... Needless to say more all caps Tweets and order cancellations happened as a result... this could easily happen with these tickets, interesting to see if there are safeguards in place for this scheme...
If I were Robert Smith, I'd stop putting so much effort into all this rubbish. Instead, go for a hike or a long run.
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You can do the fan-to-fan thing...but you can't pick the fan who gets it
d'oh. hadn't occurred to me that you can't pick who you are transferring them to... makes sense, to thwart scalpers.
in case anyone wants to confirm this, or generally learn about how the fan-to-fan thing will work: https://blog.ticketmaster.com/how-ticketmaster-face-value-ticket-exchange-works/ (https://blog.ticketmaster.com/how-ticketmaster-face-value-ticket-exchange-works/)
nice touch: tickets will be listed for full price, including fees and taxes - so you'll get 100% of your money back. i wouldn't have been surprised to hear that TM didn't reimburse fees. to be fair, they provided you with a service... so, nice of them. for once.