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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on March 27, 2024, 10:37:33 am
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In no particular order. These are current. For example I was obsessed with Rush, Mountain Goats and lots of others that I just don’t listen to anymore. Feel free to share anecdotes about these artists (except for Space)
1. Cesaria Evora
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I saw her one time from the lawn at Wolftrap which is too far… but she seemed completely disinterested in her performance….maybe it was a cultural thing… obviously one was struck by her smoking and drinking during the show
I got to say I am glad I saw her live once but I was not impressed. I think her music really is best listened to on her albums most of which are immaculately performed and produced. Even her posthumous album of leftovers which I am listening to now - Mae Cariñosa- is fantastic.
Having spent time in Cape Verde for work her music is a happy association of the feeling and place of that time. Of the vast ocean surrounding those islands…many nights I ate under the stars listening to Cape Verde’s music performed live.
Someone took a short video at her wolf trap show I was at
https://youtu.be/HCTn6zR8abg?si=H61LBoWZo-kU0a8p
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Crushing on Waxahatchee these last couple of years.
Fell back in love with The Kills at their recent show.
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Of course what made Cesaria’s story compelling is that she achieved fame in the early 90s when she was in her 50s!
What she did before that is unclear….some singing on a few records that went nowhere…
Did she work in a house of ill repute? Was she a cleaning lady? Never been clear to me….
I have heard her compared to Billie Holiday….I can see it and feel it but can’t quite articulate why she is like Billie. Certainly her singing is very expressive and the Cape Verdean slow songs - the mornas- could be seen as kind of an equivalent to Billie’s blues and sad songs… is it because she was a tough lady from a rough background? I think I need to read a good biography of hers but not sure it exists…
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Wait. Is this the Cesaria Evora thread?
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for now it is, but i assume hutch with throw out another artist at some point
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kinda wish hutch kept this one going
https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=24543.msg460513#msg460513
been almost 7 years since we got an update, and I can confirm that hutch isn't dead yet
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The difference is this has been pre-planned! I have a cardboard tablet with the 100 names!
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Tomorrow I will unveil #2.
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Do we as forum members participate or do we admire Hutch'S list?
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This would all be made easier if he just posted a picture of said cardboard tablet.
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Participation is of the essence otherwise I might as well just look at the tablet.
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1-100 Good bands
101-17,000,000 Other bands
17,000,001 U2
17,000,002 The Clash
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2. Nick Cave
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I think I bought Hole’s Live Through This and Cave’s Let Love in during the same trip to Tower at Tysons. Almost exactly thirty years ago. Both albums and acts became big favorites. Hole fizzled out and Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds continued or began - depending on your outlook- an amazing run of top shelf music. I remember at that point Superunknown was the number one album in the country. Obviously Kurt had just died and although Live Through This was fantastic and already on the release schedule there was something a bit unseemly about the album release not being delayed and the huge PR campaign that ensued with all the crazy British music rag stories about Courtney and Dando or Stipe. But I didn’t care cause the album was so good.
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1. Pavement
2. Phish
3. Pearl Jam
4. Paul McCartney
5. Pink Floyd
6. Prince
7. Panda Bear
8. Parliament
9. Peter Tosh
10. Public Enemy
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1. Pavement
2. Phish
3. Pearl Jam
4. Paul McCartney
5. Pink Floyd
6. Prince
7. Panda Bear
8. Parliament
9. Peter Tosh
10. Public Enemy
Favorite bands that begin with P?
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3. Nina Simone
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Probably the first Nina associated song I heard was Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds performing Plain Gold Ring I think on Live Seeds.
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11. REM
12. Radiohead
13. Robert Palmer
14. Rancid
15. The Rolling Stones
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16. M. Ward
17. Miles Davis
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4. Yo La Tengo
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18. Michael Jackson
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5. The Hellacopters
I like the Hives and they clearly have the show but Nicke Royale had the songs….If High Visibility had come out in the 70s it would have been hailed as a classic….just goes to show how important context and timing are…. To me the Hellacopters are the kings of the Scandinavian rock revival.
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6. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion
Pussy Galore
Any band that covers the entire Exile on Main Street album has got something for me
Just wish they hadn’t all faded away into the ether
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Some of the stuff here was recorded in Arlington before they moved to NYC
Boggles the mind…Arlington used to have bands
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Boggles the mind…Arlington used to have bands]
they just recorded at Inner Ear, no bands really played in Arlington AFAIK?
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Well they lived in Arlington…..
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Boggles the mind…Arlington used to have bands]
they just recorded at Inner Ear, no bands really played in Arlington AFAIK?
Ack how can I forget iota
Some great music happened there
But the punk that was recorded in Arlington, rarely played in Arlington (although I moved here in 93, so only know hand me down stories of early eras)
I’m pretty sure neither Fugazi, minor threat or bad brains played any venue in Arlington?
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Well they lived in Arlington…..
You know who else fucking lived in fucking Arlington?? The Fucking Wiggles, that's who.
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Well they lived in Arlington…..
You know who else fucking lived in fucking Arlington?? The Fucking Wiggles, that's who.
Actually, my bad. They didn't. I don't even know why I said that.
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Anyone remember the name of the record store that was at one point I believe was over by Courthouse? They used to have bands live there and I believe it was Anne Summers who did quite a memorable show there..
Wasn't there at one point a fairly active house show scene in Arlington at one point? I think The Cassettes were part of that scene for example
also saw some really great shows at Galaxy Hut
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I recall that record store, Hutch would definitely know the name
I've seen a few shows at Galaxy, but can't say any were even remotely good
unless the house show scene only existed from 2004-11, I never heard anything about it
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Well they lived in Arlington…..
You know who else fucking lived in fucking Arlington?? The Fucking Wiggles, that's who.
Actually, my bad. They didn't. I don't even know why I said that.
It's not that uncommon to mistake Arlington for Australia, it happens all the time
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Anyone remember the name of the record store that was at one point I believe was over by Courthouse? They used to have bands live there and I believe it was Anne Summers who did quite a memorable show there..
Wasn't there at one point a fairly active house show scene in Arlington at one point? I think The Cassettes were part of that scene for example
also saw some really great shows at Galaxy Hut
Right above sugar shack? Was it go!?
I saw Kristin Hersh there
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Anyone remember the name of the record store that was at one point I believe was over by Courthouse? They used to have bands live there and I believe it was Anne Summers who did quite a memorable show there..
Wasn't there at one point a fairly active house show scene in Arlington at one point? I think The Cassettes were part of that scene for example
also saw some really great shows at Galaxy Hut
Right above sugar shack? Was it go!?
I saw Kristin Hersh there
Was is CD Cellar (Arlington store?)
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/orpheus-records-in-washington-dc.145359/page-3
CD Cellar (has decent selection of used vinyl):
2607 Wilson Blvd.
Arlington, VA 22201
709-B West Broad Street
Falls Church, VA 22046
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No…pretty sure it was Go! Above sugar shack
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Found it in the 930 club forum archives
Now! Music and Fashion was the store I was thinking about.
And Anne Summers was indeed the band that did a memorable show there.
"Now was a great store to visit in Clarendon and I only went to the Old Town store once. Didn't even make it to store when it was out briefly near Seven Corners.
They use to have great in stores in Clarendon. Saw some great shows there... Charming, Devon Green, Swearing at Motorists, Phaser etc.
But my favorite show was when Anne Summers showed up dressed in track suits and proceeded to do all lounge versions of their songs while acting like New Jersey tough guys. It was hilarious"
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Wow before my time I think
I stand corrected
Go! Also had free shows
There was quite the scene…record labels like Teenbeat..
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7. (I think) Andres Calamaro
Probably my favorite musician all in all. It’s sad non Spanish speakers will never get to enjoy it. The recent 6 cd deluxe of Honestidad Brutal can be had for $30 on eBay. I already have five copies. Going to give them to friends who speak Spanish
Meeting him in 2011 or so after his show at Irving Plaza and hanging out with him backstage was a dream come true.
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1. The Knife
2. The Flaming Lips
3. Pink Floyd
4. The Doors
5. Pearl Jam
6. Azelia Banks
7. Jay Reatard
8. The Strokes
9. Lady Gaga
10. Martha Wainwright
11. Jesus Jones
12. Dinosaur Jr
13. Polyphonic Spree
14. The Ramones
15. Phish
16. Def Leppard
17. Arcade Fire
18. Beach House
19. Alaska Thunderfuck
20. Rupual
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Will check out Alaska Thunderfuck tomorrow….kind of scared
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Is that the same Rupual who has the fracking farm in Wyoming?
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Is fracking same as horizontal drilling?
I read we are now the world’s biggest oil producer.
Oil prices are set by the international market but it’s still nice to not be dependent on foreign oil and I have to believe we must have reasonably sized oil reserves Biden can tap if gas prices go up too much. Also, with many people driving electric and hybrid cars I don’t think the price of gas is as much of an issue as in the past. Particularly for the voters Biden needs….
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It is his husband's ranch, that allows the fracking; she just lives there part of the year. My favorite quote regarding the fracking issue from Ru . . . "Do you buy gas? Before you point the finger, smell it first, bitch.”
And her music, eats all, regardless.
Hutch . . . I might be wrong, but I believe Alaska's music caters to fans of drag, drag race, and insane gay people.
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It is his husband's ranch, that allows the fracking; she just lives there part of the year. My favorite quote regarding the fracking issue from Ru . . . "Do you buy gas? Before you point the finger, smell it first, bitch.”
And her music, eats all, regardless.
Hutch . . . I might be wrong, but I believe Alaska's music caters to fans of drag, drag race, and insane gay people.
Given our love for you, I think we're all fans of insane gay people.
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I accept that love, and all forms of payments for, said love.
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8. Leonard Cohen
So much to his lyrics….there’s so much there….
I regret missing the Merriweather show….cheapskate
Not a better songwriter than Bob but definitely a better poet.
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Among other things, that show at Merriweather was a master class on how to age gracefully. Pure class
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Well….Leonard was always “old” but I get your point
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9. Stephen Malkmus
And I say Malkmus not Pavement intentionally as the years have taught me Malkmus is Pavement
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Losing interest so am unveiling the tablet. Just add Hellacopters to it. The third row are just some acts “bubbling under”
Drum roll
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I plan to carry the tablet on my keychain so when people ask me what music I like I whip it out
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bummer
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9. Stephen Malkmus
And I say Malkmus not Pavement intentionally as the years have taught me Malkmus is Pavement
My wife uses Pavement as an example of a band that music snobs like when she goes on her rants about how she hates music snobs.
She also trashes some of my favorites as examples of bands that music snobs like. E.g. Tom Waits, Lucinda Williams.
Though I would argue that true music snobs don't like any of those bands. True music snobs are into hobo shows and the like.
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Your wife is crazy. Talent is talent. Great songwriting is great songwriting.
Lucinda and Waits have been at it for like five decades. Critics can hype all they want but if there is no there there acts don’t survive five decades.
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9. Stephen Malkmus
And I say Malkmus not Pavement intentionally as the years have taught me Malkmus is Pavement
My wife uses Pavement as an example of a band that music snobs like when she goes on her rants about how she hates music snobs.
She also trashes some of my favorites as examples of bands that music snobs like. E.g. Tom Waits, Lucinda Williams.
Though I would argue that true music snobs don't like any of those bands. True music snobs are into hobo shows and the like.
what I've learned is that Pavement continues to go viral on Tiktok with some of their lesser known, "hits."
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Your wife is crazy. Talent is talent. Great songwriting is great songwriting.
Lucinda and Waits have been at it for like five decades. Critics can hype all they want but if there is no there there acts don’t survive five decades.
I'm with you, but I'm married to her (thankfully for you.)
She says Lucinda "has a whiny voice" and well with Tom Waits it's obvious...voice is an acquired taste. He's unique.
Obviously, for me, it's not about how pretty the voice is (though I do like some voices especially...Raul Malo, Roy Orbison, Billie Holiday, the list goes on), it's about the songs and how the voice is an effective tool to get the song across.
For her, Maria Carey deserves to be a billionaire and those other artists (Lucinda, Tom, Pavement) are for music snobs who think they are cooler than everyone else.
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Yeah I had a pretty heated conversation with my uncle 20 years ago about how Bob Dylan was a great singer.
I have given up on having that conversation with people
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what I've learned is that Pavement continues to go viral on Tiktok with some of their lesser known, "hits."
I keep hearing bits of pavement coming from my kids phone
At first I’m all excited and then I hear the same 20 seconds repeat and get maudlin
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Yeah I had a pretty heated conversation with my uncle 20 years ago about how Bob Dylan was a great singer.
I have given up on having that conversation with people
I think Bob Dylan is for people who catch him at the right place in their lives, and he unlocks something for them that doesn't happen for the rest of us who miss that opportunity. I recognize his talent and influence. He brings something unique and special to the fans of his that found him at a time in their lives when his impact was seismic to their music appreciation and enjoyment. But I cannot get him, I can't stand him, and I also had a roommate whom I couldn't stand who loved Dylan, so that was another strike against him for me. I am glad people enjoy him, but for me he might as well be Dave Matthews. It's like trying to get me to enjoy a rare duck breast with blood oozing out of it. It ain't gonna happen, and it's just not my thing. Now duck confit is another story. That might be more along the lines of Neil Young...and I'm a BIG fan of his.
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Neil Young is duck confit...check
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Yeah I had a pretty heated conversation with my uncle 20 years ago about how Bob Dylan was a great singer.
I have given up on having that conversation with people
I think Bob Dylan is for people who catch him at the right place in their lives, and he unlocks something for them that doesn't happen for the rest of us who miss that opportunity. I recognize his talent and influence. He brings something unique and special to the fans of his that found him at a time in their lives when his impact was seismic to their music appreciation and enjoyment. But I cannot get him, I can't stand him, and I also had a roommate whom I couldn't stand who loved Dylan, so that was another strike against him for me. I am glad people enjoy him, but for me he might as well be Dave Matthews. It's like trying to get me to enjoy a rare duck breast with blood oozing out of it. It ain't gonna happen, and it's just not my thing. Now duck confit is another story. That might be more along the lines of Neil Young...and I'm a BIG fan of his.
Bearman- I have the utmost regard for your musical opinions but the mention of Dave Matthews and Bob Dylan in the same sentence is utter blasphemy
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Yeah I had a pretty heated conversation with my uncle 20 years ago about how Bob Dylan was a great singer.
I have given up on having that conversation with people
I think Bob Dylan is for people who catch him at the right place in their lives, and he unlocks something for them that doesn't happen for the rest of us who miss that opportunity. I recognize his talent and influence. He brings something unique and special to the fans of his that found him at a time in their lives when his impact was seismic to their music appreciation and enjoyment. But I cannot get him, I can't stand him, and I also had a roommate whom I couldn't stand who loved Dylan, so that was another strike against him for me. I am glad people enjoy him, but for me he might as well be Dave Matthews. It's like trying to get me to enjoy a rare duck breast with blood oozing out of it. It ain't gonna happen, and it's just not my thing. Now duck confit is another story. That might be more along the lines of Neil Young...and I'm a BIG fan of his.
Bearman- I have the utmost regard for your musical opinions but the mention of Dave Matthews and Bob Dylan in the same sentence is utter blasphemy
Hahahaha...that was intentional. That is how much I cannot tolerate Bob Dylan. Trust me, I'm disappointed in myself too. But I just DO. NOT. GET. HIM. Is it the lyrics? I can't get past the voice. I find it so acrid and it permeates everything in such a manner that I can't get past the aural stench.
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Bob’s music is appreciated by people of all ages all over the world discovering it at completely different points in their lives under completely varied circumstances. So this idea about needing to discover it at some particular point in life wherein one has a specific need seems a bit hamfisted.
And it’s not just about the music. The man has won the Nobel Prize for LITERATURE!
I mean I don’t know….some people say it’s all subjective but kind of beggars belief that it’s not great art and universal. Also, since he has written in so many different styles, performed with so many different musicians in so many different styles, sang with so many different voices and wore so many different masks it’s hard to believe none of it appeals to you at all.
Didn’t George Harrison say the only musician of our time that people will still listen to 500 years from now is Bob Dylan? Or have I been making that up for decades?
And when you write “I can’t stand him”….wow… I don’t enjoy listening to Coltrane’s Ascension but I still appreciate what he is trying to do….
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Bob’s music is appreciated by people of all ages all over the world discovering it at completely different points in their lives under completely varied circumstances. So this idea about needing to discover it at some particular point in life wherein one has a specific need seems a bit hamfisted.
And it’s not just about the music. The man has won the Nobel Prize for LITERATURE!
I mean I don’t know….some people say it’s all subjective but kind of beggars belief that it’s not great art and universal. Also, since he has written in so many different styles, performed with so many different musicians in so many different styles, sang with so many different voices and wore so many different masks it’s hard to believe none of it appeals to you at all.
Didn’t George Harrison say the only musician of our time that people will still listen to 500 years from now is Bob Dylan? Or have I been making that up for decades?
And when you write “I can’t stand him”….wow… I don’t enjoy listening to Coltrane’s Ascension but I still appreciate what he is trying to do….
Let's play a game. Gimme one LP I should listen to. I'll do it and get back to you.
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Didn’t George Harrison say the only musician of our time that people will still listen to 500 years from now is Bob Dylan? Or have I been making that up for decades?
Chuck Klosterman definitely makes this argument in that But What If We're Wrong essay collection.
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That’s a lot of pressure Bearman….will have to think about it….
Like you say you hate his voice but have you heard Nashville Skyline?
Are you a romantic person? I cannot imagine one not appreciating Blood on the tracks!
Does folk appeal to you at all? Freewheeling Bob Dylan
How about one of Hendrix’s favorites John Wesley Harding. Amazing biblical music.
If you like punk seek out the YouTube of Bob backed by the Plugz on Letterman
I could go on all day
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But it’s not like I want to convert anyone.
One is fully capable of living a fulfilling life without Bob Dylan
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Bearman-
Just curious. Do you feel the same way about Tom Waits?
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Bearman-
Just curious. Do you feel the same way about Tom Waits?
I know this was directed at Bearman but I just want to chime in that I loathe Tom Waits. One of the few artists worse than The Clash.
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That’s a lot of pressure Bearman….will have to think about it….
Like you say you hate his voice but have you heard Nashville Skyline?
Are you a romantic person? I cannot imagine one not appreciating Blood on the tracks!
Does folk appeal to you at all? Freewheeling Bob Dylan
How about one of Hendrix’s favorites John Wesley Harding. Amazing biblical music.
If you like punk seek out the YouTube of Bob backed by the Plugz on Letterman
I could go on all day
I'm a homo, so bear in mind that biblical music probably won't resonate with me. Use some of these as my reference points for what speaks to me: Paul Westerberg, Elliott Smith, Kristin Hersh, Neil Young (After the Gold Rush and Zuma are my go-tos), Tom Rush, Flying Burrito Brothers/Gram Parsons, Lee Hazlewood.
Freewheeling is probably more up my alley. But if you've got other thoughts based on where I was going, I'm going to try again.
One thing I've learned about myself is that even bands I used to hate, I can develop an appreciation for later on. The one Dylan song I actually enjoy is "Like a Rolling Stone". No doubt, that is a great song. Ironically...many artists I love find Dylan hugely influential. So my dislike of what I've heard from him confounds even me because I always thought I'd find something that would speak to me. Haven't yet though, at least nothing as a complete work/artistic statement.
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Bearman-
Just curious. Do you feel the same way about Tom Waits?
Waits, though brilliant, hasn't grabbed my attention fully yet. But I haven't had the same visceral reaction as I've had to the Dylan I've tried to listen to.
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BLONDE ON BLONDE (but skip over outlier opener Rainy Day Women)
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New Morning, bearman!!! If you can't like this album, you can't like any dylan album! Do it!
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Bearman-
Just curious. Do you feel the same way about Tom Waits?
I know this was directed at Bearman but I just want to chime in that I loathe Tom Waits. One of the few artists worse than The Clash.
whoa, that's big!
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New Morning, bearman!!! If you can't like this album, you can't like any dylan album! Do it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyouhbgAiCA
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New Morning, bearman!!! If you can't like this album, you can't like any dylan album! Do it!
This one has never been on my radar. So far I don't hate it. Seems much more my speed than any other LPs I've tried to listen to. I think it'll grow on me. Thanks.
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New Morning is great. His happy domesticity album. Definitely his most joyful album.
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New Morning is great. His happy domesticity album. Definitely his most joyful album.
The warm vibe is noticeable. I will definitely spend more time with it.