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Title: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 25, 2004, 10:03:00 am
Anybody seen it now that it's been out for awhile?
 
 We went on Friday, and unsurprisingly, there was not a single fat person in the audience of about 50. It was like preaching (thought there was little preaching) to the converted. Only a few of us even looked like we had a few pounds to shed.
 
 And the movie? I thought it was very entertaining. Didn't really learn anything, just reinforced a few sad truths. What was really sad was seeing how immersed children are into our junk food culture.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Chip Chanko on May 25, 2004, 10:32:00 am
It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 25, 2004, 10:37:00 am
I guess my lowbrow "treats" are going to Waffle House a few times a year.
 
 If I'm going to indulge in high calorie food, I tend to want better quality stuff, along the lines of Ben and Jerry's...
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Bombay Chutney on May 25, 2004, 10:40:00 am
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I guess my lowbrow "treats" are going to Waffle House a few times a year.
mmmmmm.....scattered and smothered, please.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 25, 2004, 01:47:00 pm
Savage Love
 by Dan Savage
 May 25th, 2004 12:50 PM
 
 
 
 Q. You hate-spewing, body-image-fascism-promoting asshole. I'm a large woman. I read your two incredibly offensive columns about "girl love handles" and the supposed "health risks" of obesity. How dare you oppress women, large and small, with your judgments! Maybe if you enjoyed putting something in your mouth every once in a while that wasn't cock, Mr. Skin and Boners, you would see things differently. At least food is supposed to go in our mouths. Why don't you try swallowing something that wasn't shot down your throat sometime? Food, it's what's for dinner. â??LARGE AND ROYALLY DISGUSTED ABOUT SAVAGE'S SERMONS
 
 A. You neglected to include a sign-off, forcing me to create one for you. I tried to create one that captured the spirit and tone of your letter, and I think I did pretty well. Too bad about the acronym, though, huh?
 
 Secondly, I'm sick of talking about GLH and the obesity epidemic. I would love to move on, but the mail keeps pouring in. Some is from folks who've got my back (thanks, gang), but most is from ticked-off women like LARDASS here. As of this writing, I've received exactly 10,547 pieces of e-mailâ??that's the actual tallyâ?? complaining that my refusal to take the self-esteem-boosting/public-health-shredding position that you can be obese and healthy somehow oppresses women. Interestingly enough, I haven't received a single e-mail about how, say, the Food and Drug Administration oppresses women.
 
 In December the FDA's Reproductive Health Advisory Committee voted 23 to four in favor of making Plan B, the "morning after" birth control pill, available to women, large and small, without a prescription. Plan B is emergency contraception, and women who've had a condom break on 'em or engaged in drunken unprotected sex need to be able to get their hands on it quickly. Plan B is not "regular" birth control, meaning it can't take the place of the pill or condoms. But it is a safe and effective backup that prevents a woman from ovulating or, if a fertilized egg is already present, prevents it from attaching to the wombâ??the fate of half of all fertilized eggs anyway. Plan B is available to women in 100 nations and sold over the counter in 33.
 
 Despite the recommendation of its expert panel, in May the FDA announced that it would not make Plan B available without a prescription. Why? The Bush-appointed asswipes running the FDA claimed they were concerned that Plan B couldn't be used safely by girls between 11 and 15. (Pregnancy at 11, however, girls can handle fine.) By that standard, members of the FDA's expert panel pointed out, no drugs would be available to anyone without a prescription. You can overdose and die on Tylenol, for crying out loud. The real reason the Bushies don't want women to get their hands on Plan B is that they don't want womenâ??young or old, large or smallâ??to be able to control their own reproductive systems. That's oppression, no?
 
 Sorting through 10,547 outraged e-mails, I couldn't help but wonder how many of you took the time to write the FDA and complain about the Plan B decision. If you did, good for you. If you didn't, make amends for obsessing about how my column allegedly oppresses women by calling the FDA on their actual oppression of American women. Call the bastards at the FDA at 1-888-463-6332, or e-mail them via the FDA's website (fda.gov). But considering that the FDA is currently in the hands of Bush-administration appointees (read: Jesus freaks and Bible-thumpers), your time might be better spent sending letters to your representatives in the U.S. House and Senate, which you can do via house.gov and senate.gov. And god bless Canada for being so sensible. Days after the FDA refused to approve Plan B, their government announced that Canadians will soon be able to enjoy over-the-counter Plan B along with gay marriages, socialized medicine, and decriminalized pot.
 
 
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 Q. How dare you spew your hateful bile! Speech like yours causes violence toward fat womyn. I'm a glorious five feet two and weigh a beautiful 450 pounds. My sisters and I apologize to no one for our looks. We were born this way. The hate must stop! â??BIG WOMYN
 
 A. You were born five feet two, 450 pounds? Did your mother burst like a seedpod? Christ! I am thoroughly annoyed at having my tame statements of factâ??being heavy is a health risk; rolls of exposed flesh are unsightlyâ??characterized as "hate speech." (Particularly by people who, like LARDASS, fill their letters with juvenile taunts about my burning hunger for cock.) Perhaps the problem here is that LARDASS and BW lack perspective. My comments only seem hateful to people who haven't read anything truly hateful about fat. Something like, say, this letter from a Brit:
 
 
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 Q. From a European perspective, it is baffling and hilarious to read the vitriolic, pious, unhinged views that the whole fat "thing" provokes in the U.S.A. To all but a tiny handful of Europeans it is so self-evident as to preclude debate that being above about a size 16 (which translates to a size 10/12 in the U.S., I believe) makes you a lardy, lazy, ugly, unhealthy, sweaty, smelly, unfuckable, unwanted piece of soon-to-die-early shit. Babies in prams will cheerfully tell you this. Their parents will fail to reprove them for it. Even the sensible fatties grin and fess up. "Just love food," they'll tell you. "Know it's killing me, but hey. Life sucks." I smoke 20 fags a day but I don't feel the need to convince the world that I'm actually a sweet-smelling, enlightened, nonaddicted, attractive, healthy guy. I'm a smelly, sick addict on the way to a coronary. Wish it weren't so, but hey. Life sucks. Only myself to blame. The problem in the U.S. isn't that people are fat (which they undeniably are: I've never seen such a collection of sweaty porkers), but that they're so goddamn crazy and angry about being fat. â??SMELLY UNITED KINGDOM SMOKER
 
 A. First, let the record show that I disagree with almost everything in SUKS's letter. That's hate speech and I condemn it. Roundly. Uh . . . soundly. Second, presuming they didn't both die of strokes as they read SUKS's letter, I hereby invite LARDASS and BW to write SUKS angry lettersâ??letters which I will happily forward directly to him after you copy to me the angry letters you sent to the FDA about the Plan B decision.
 
 
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 Q. To hell with people complaining about fat people and fat people complaining about people complaining about them. I read your column for the freaky shit! Bring me the piss-guzzling, diaper-wearing, leather-clad horsemen! â??DOCTOR ODD
 
 A. I agree, so the fat subject is closed. As for piss-guzzling, diaper-wearing, leather-clad horsemen, we aim to please: Check out boytaur.net for a nice selection of horsemen and boys. None are guzzling piss, wearing diapers, or clad in leather, but I think you'll find them plenty freaky.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Sir HC on May 25, 2004, 02:02:00 pm
Saw it when it first hit.  All I can say is that Big Mac man is the counterpoint.  Eat in moderation and smartly and you can survive Mc D's with a healthy life.  
 
 Best part is I went to McD's for the first time since the movie (I go about 4 times a year), and they still had the Super Size for 80 cents (Laruel Mc'D's on Rte 1).  I guess they said they got rid of it except where they didn't.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2004, 02:26:00 pm
Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 25, 2004, 02:32:00 pm
I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2004, 02:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
   
But McDonalds was used to sell tickets.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2004, 02:52:00 pm
well, i haven't seen it, but just because you know how a movie turns out doesn't mean it can't be entertaining
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Jaguär on May 26, 2004, 01:56:00 am
I get nauseaous every time I hear or read something about this movie. Haven't eaten at a McDonald's for many years. Even then, I tend to stick with the plastic milk shakes. Personally, I hate fast foods. With that said, can't say that my diet is the greatest but I do tend to avoid grease. But if I let myself, I could get fat by eating only healthy foods if I allow myself to go hog wild.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: ggw on May 26, 2004, 09:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Celeste on May 26, 2004, 09:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.
yeah, you'll get fat on 5K a day pretty much no matter what, unless you were an elite athlete or farm worker, but if you ate healthier pastas, breads and salads (using the OG as an example) you'd probably not be bordering on liver failure and have cholesterol and triglycerides through the ceiling
 
 additionally, it might not be as easy to put away 5K of healthier foods because they would be more filling and satisfying, and you'd certainly be getting more nutrients with your calories
 
 I don't think he was just picking on McDonalds, he used the company because it is an icon
 
 and, nobody said it was "news"...just a movie
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Celeste on May 26, 2004, 09:51:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices. [/b]
in this case , some people *are* too stupid to make their own choices (or too addicted or they just don't care)...but I don't say sue McDonalds and take away their choices, I say let them get smarter or let them rot in their state...it's just unfortunate for all of us that the healthcare system has to pick up the slack and that I have to walk behind them in the crowded metro
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: mankie on May 26, 2004, 11:12:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!!  ;)  but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though....but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Celeste on May 26, 2004, 11:17:00 am
our fast food treat is Potbelly's...we like the "pizza" sandwich with no pepperoni and I like mine with hotpeppers...washed down with an Oreo shake
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 26, 2004, 11:57:00 am
Have you seen the movie?
 
 I came away thinking that the filmmaker was putting as much of the blame for the growing obesity epidemic on lack of personal responsibility as much as on lack of corporate responsibility.
 
 But maybe we (I) just take away what we want from what we see.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices. [/b]
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on May 27, 2004, 06:25:00 am
funny thing isâ?¦
 
 it made me REALLY want a dbl qtr-pounder w/ chz
 
 remember how much the guy was enjoying it when he first started?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 27, 2004, 09:09:00 am
MTV Won't Show Ads For 'Super Size Me'
 
 Reuters
 Thursday, May 27, 2004; Page C09
 
 
 LOS ANGELES, May 26 -- The documentary "Super Size Me," a critical look at the health impact of a fast-food-only diet, has been downsized at MTV: The cable network has refused to show ads for the film, its distributors said Wednesday.
 
   
 
 Roadside Attractions and Samuel Goldwyn Films said in a statement that MTV has told them the ads are "disparaging to fast-food restaurants."
 
 The distributors said MTV sister network VH1 was planning to use clips from the movie in a program called "Best Week Ever," but the clips were pulled before the show aired.
 
 An MTV spokesperson was unavailable for comment. MTV and VH1 are owned by media giant Viacom, which depends on advertising for a major portion of its revenues.
 
 For "Super Size Me," director Morgan Spurlock had nothing but food and drink from McDonald's restaurants for 30 days, and if asked whether he wanted the larger, "supersize" meal, he always said yes. He gained weight and his health declined. Documenting the impact are not only the cameras but also his doctors. Spurlock mixes in facts and figures about food and dieting as he travels the United States talking to health and food experts in 20 cities.
 
 In March, McDonald's said it would eliminate its supersize menu options by year end; a company spokeswoman said the decision was unrelated to the movie.
 
 The announcement came two months after "Super Size Me" earned Spurlock the Grand Jury Prize for best documentary director at this year's Sundance Film Festival. The film began playing in theaters about two weeks ago and rose to No. 10 on domestic box-office charts this past week. It has grossed $2.9 million in ticket sales -- a hit for a documentary -- and last weekend scored a per-screen average of $6,759, just behind No. 2 film "Troy" with $7,014.
 
 The film expands to 165 screens from 148 for the Memorial Day weekend, which the MTV ads had been timed to promote, a spokesman for the distributors said.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: ggw on May 27, 2004, 09:41:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Have you seen the movie?
 
 I came away thinking that the filmmaker was putting as much of the blame for the growing obesity epidemic on lack of personal responsibility as much as on lack of corporate responsibility.
 
 But maybe we (I) just take away what we want from what we see.
 
No, I haven't seen the movie, but I would never let such a minor technicality stand in the way of a good political cheap shot.
 
 All kidding aside, I do find it funny that corporations are blamed for leading people to do bad things.  If this movie stresses that personal reponsibility is the key, then I am sure I will like it when I see it.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Sir HC on May 27, 2004, 10:47:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Have you seen the movie?
 
 I came away thinking that the filmmaker was putting as much of the blame for the growing obesity epidemic on lack of personal responsibility as much as on lack of corporate responsibility.
 
 But maybe we (I) just take away what we want from what we see.
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices. [/b]
[/b]
I agree with Rhett here.  The movie has a side story about school cafeterias and how poor the nutritional choices (and the choices made by the kids) are there too.  It was an odd combination in the movie about the companies saying that the schools should teach good choices (which would mean not their food) and it is not their fault not having healthy options (the McD's salads can be worse for you than the burgers in terms of fat and the rest).
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: jkeisenh on May 27, 2004, 11:16:00 am
I found the school part really interesting.  I myself am a lefty vegetarian (since age 13) and even I, when I was in high school, was excited for pizza hut or taco bell day.  Now I avoid that stuff like the plague but back then, it was half an issue of yummy choices and half about student decision making.  I don't know...
 
 I thought as a whole it was a great film, and it really impressed on me how a bad diet is just as bad as, say, smoking or not exercising.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Bags on May 27, 2004, 11:44:00 am
-edit- Sorry, didn't see Rhett's post on MTV...seems like a pretty obvious corporate bit of bullshit, though, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 27, 2004, 11:51:00 am
Bags and I apparently read the same newspaper.  :)
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Chip Chanko on May 27, 2004, 12:24:00 pm
It all goes back to growing up on a stuff. On family vacations this is all we every ate for the most part. Maybe if I hadn't grown up on it I wouldn't have the cravings once in a while. For the most part if I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle or Panera or a Whole Foods prosciutto caprese sandwich (sorry guys, can't stand Potbelly or Quizno's or Baja Fresh). Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!!   ;)   but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though....but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat? [/b]
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 12:30:00 pm
i try to cook most of my own meals or buy frozen ones at least. trader joe's is my best friend. usually meals out are somewhere that has beer. hardly ever go to mc donald's, but sometimes you need some grease to help with the hangovers
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: ggw on May 27, 2004, 12:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
 I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle  Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
 
Chipotle doesn't sound much healthier (and is owned by McDonalds).
 
 Chipotle's Chicken Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, and salsa) weighs in at nearly 1,000 calories and 12 grams of saturated fat.
 
 Chipotle's Vegetarian Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, and salsa) weighs over a pound and provides 1,120 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat (14 grams).
 
 Chipotle's Barbacoa Burrito (with shredded beef, pinto beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, sour cream, and salsa) hits nearly 1,300 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat. That's the equivalent of a Quarter Pounder, a large order of fries, and a large Coke.
 
 http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html (http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html)
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 12:36:00 pm
oh yeah, i'm surprised its only 12 grams of fat. i would have guessed more like 20. chipotle is good stuff, but so bad for you.
 
 most of the burritos are a whole days worth of food on weight watchers
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Chip Chanko on May 27, 2004, 12:39:00 pm
I did know that they are owned by McDonald's. Panera is owned by Au Bon Pain, I forgot who owns Baja Fresh (Wendy's??).
 
 Interesting info about the burrito. The Barbacoa is actually what I usually get there (just had one last night). Do you know if Chipotle's stuff is worse than a burrito somewhere else? I usually forego cheese and sour cream and I have it with black beans instead of pinto. I miss there being a Burrito Brothers in Georgetown.
 
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
 I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle  Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
 
Chipotle doesn't sound much healthier (and is owned by McDonalds).
 
 Chipotle's Chicken Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, and salsa) weighs in at nearly 1,000 calories and 12 grams of saturated fat.
 
 Chipotle's Vegetarian Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, and salsa) weighs over a pound and provides 1,120 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat (14 grams).
 
 Chipotle's Barbacoa Burrito (with shredded beef, pinto beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, sour cream, and salsa) hits nearly 1,300 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat. That's the equivalent of a Quarter Pounder, a large order of fries, and a large Coke.
 
  http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html (http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html) [/b]
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 27, 2004, 12:55:00 pm
I like Subway and Quiznos.
 
   and the fact that i have gained 20 lbs in the last year has less to do with subs and more to do with Samuel Adams and Molson Canadian i think  ;)
 
   but who would want to see a movie about beer making you fat?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Chip Chanko on May 27, 2004, 01:03:00 pm
I'd see it at the Drafthouse.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 ...but who would want to see a movie about beer making you fat?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Sir HC on May 27, 2004, 01:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!!   ;)   but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though....but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat? [/b]
When we were kids we always ate at home.  Only exceptions were vacations (usually) and when my parents had bridge and my mom was cleaning the house.  Then dad would take us to McDonalds.  We viewed that as a treat, not eating at home, fries, all that.  Eddie Murphy has a great comedy routine about McDonalds burgers.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: mankie on May 27, 2004, 02:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  I like Subway and Quiznos.
 
   
We tried the Quiznos when it first opened in Aspen Hill....THAT SHIT IS NASTY!
 
 What about Chicken Out or Boston Market......fast food, junk or what?
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 02:31:00 pm
i love quiznos. chicken out has been absolutly horrid 2 of the 3 times i have tried it
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on May 27, 2004, 02:38:00 pm
I should sue my high school drug dealer for having cloudy thoughts now
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: ggw on May 27, 2004, 02:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
 What about Chicken Out or Boston Market......fast food, junk or what?
Boston Market is also owned by McDonalds, so it is inherently evil in some circles.
 
 Nutritionally, those places aren't as bad as greasy burger joints:
 
 http://www.chickenout.com/eathealthy.asp?pg=2 (http://www.chickenout.com/eathealthy.asp?pg=2)
 
 http://www.bostonmarket.com/food/index.jsp?page=nutrition (http://www.bostonmarket.com/food/index.jsp?page=nutrition)
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 02:54:00 pm
looks like you could eat ok at boston market/chicken out as long as you are sensable about sides and avoid skin.
 
 and avoid soda too. talk about something that has no redeeming value. surprised no one takes aim at pepsi
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: jkeisenh on May 27, 2004, 03:02:00 pm
Ah, soda.
 So, a friend of mine used to work for the Center for Commercial Free Public Education and they were all about bashing Pepsi and Coke for their "marketing strategies."  As in, machine placement deals, sponsoring sports equipment, donating textbooks, etc.
 
 At one point in time, Coke was donating math text books for middleschoolers that was about "If you take a two liter of Coke, that's X ounces, and divide it into can sized containers, at Y ounces each, how many cans cans of delicious coke could you fill?"
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 27, 2004, 03:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  At one point in time, Coke was donating math text books for middleschoolers that was about "If you take a two liter of Coke, that's X ounces, and divide it into can sized containers, at Y ounces each, how many cans cans of delicious coke could you fill?"
all the coke placement in math books still wouldn't encourage me to do math homework.
 
 mmmmm, coke.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Bags on May 27, 2004, 03:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i love quiznos. chicken out has been absolutly horrid 2 of the 3 times i have tried it
That's so funny...there's a quiznos in my office building, so when I started here and it was raining, etc., I'd go there.  Yuck.  There could be a hurricane and I'm getting across the street to Cosi's.  No matter what you get, all the quiznos "subs" taste the same....  There aren't any Chicken Outs around me, but I've been a couple times and there are so many choices that it seems like you can do fine there.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 03:33:00 pm
part of my chicken out experience was ruined by not getting what i ordered from either the one in mclean or the one in reston. and the meat was of poor quality. also, the guys working were rude to me in reston. screw that.
 
 alot of people don't like quiznos, but i hear alot of different reasons. to each his own, but you can't beat a pickle/pepper bar in my book  :D  like i said, i really don't go out much, at least to places that don't have beer
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 03:42:00 pm
also, if i really want a sub just to have a sub, i usually order from mom's in arlington or something
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: mankie on May 27, 2004, 03:59:00 pm
I don't eat meat so get the side order sampler at Boston Market....that's  not bad, although their portions are so unpredictable. One time you'll get a smidgen, then the next enough to feed a small country.
 
 I must say though, the chicken does look a bit greasy sat there on the counter.
 
 On the subject of poor service/morons getting the order wrong. Pappa Johns in Aspen Hill is my favourite. They're so bad we actually enjoy ordering there just to see how badly they can fuck it up and how obnoxious they can be when we call them back to tell them.....it makes for quite an entertaining evening. We even place bets to see how many toppings they get wrong.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 04:09:00 pm
when i ate fast food more often, i had to stop going to burger king. it was the only drive thru in my neighborhood at the time (back in pittsburgh), and the would always put mayo on my whopper.
 
 we got such bad service in a manhattan restraunt once that we missed blonde redhead opening for sleater-kinney. bummerville
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: mankie on May 27, 2004, 04:27:00 pm
When I was a carnivour I always thought Wendys mad the best burgers....they're the square ones right? Anyway...whoever it was who made the square burgers had the best.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2004, 04:34:00 pm
wendy's has the square ones, and yes, they are the best.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: on May 27, 2004, 04:35:00 pm
White Caste's R the bestest!
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: ratioci nation on May 27, 2004, 05:27:00 pm
http://www.theselfdestructionhandbook.com/ (http://www.theselfdestructionhandbook.com/)
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 27, 2004, 05:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 alot of people don't like quiznos, but i hear alot of different reasons.  
i hear this reason a lot  :)
 
   What in the hell? (http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/)
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2004, 05:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
  White Caste's R the bestest!
In 'n Out.  That's what a hamburger is all about.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: mankie on May 27, 2004, 05:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 
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  What in the hell? (http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/) [/b]
Just what in god's name is that???
 
 Who the hell okay'd that as an ad for their company? Whoever it is needs to be taken out back and lynched from the nearest tree...unless they're black, then that wouldn't be cool...just a simple bullet in the skull in that case.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Jaguär on May 28, 2004, 12:35:00 am
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 
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  What in the hell? (http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/) [/b]
Just what in god's name is that???
 
 Who the hell okay'd that as an ad for their company? Whoever it is needs to be taken out back and lynched from the nearest tree...unless they're black, then that wouldn't be cool...just a simple bullet in the skull in that case. [/b]
Ah, come on. That thing is so old and has made the round in lots of our emails way before Quizno's adopted them. I think they are cute and miss those commercials.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 28, 2004, 08:08:00 am
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
   
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 
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  What in the hell? (http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/) [/b]
Just what in god's name is that???
 
 Who the hell okay'd that as an ad for their company? Whoever it is needs to be taken out back and lynched from the nearest tree...unless they're black, then that wouldn't be cool...just a simple bullet in the skull in that case. [/b]
Ah, come on. That thing is so old and has made the round in lots of our emails way before Quizno's adopted them. I think they are cute and miss those commercials. [/b]
I am well aware of that, you are such a woman of the times.  but does it really ever get old?  i dont think so.
Title: Re: Supersize Me
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on May 28, 2004, 08:53:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
  White Caste's R the bestest!
In 'n Out.  That's what a hamburger is all about. [/b]
HEAR! HEAR!