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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: helicon1 on April 11, 2005, 10:44:00 pm
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What is Fall out boy and how did it sell out the club? Is this like Badly Drawn's younger bro?
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Ugh. Yeah.. who knows.
I feel so old all of a sudden.
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Young pop-punk band.
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and so very indie...
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paint-by-numbers pop-punk/emo ... it's what that "fuse" channel was made for ... koz, indie?
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Named for a Simpsons character? Is this the new naming convention now that William S. Burroughs is old fashioned?
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How on earth did this show sell out before even going up on the front page schedule?!? Holy moly....
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Wow - I didn't even notice that it wasn't listed yet. That's the first of these shows to totally sellout in advance. (Assuming there isn't going to be another "on sale" date.)
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From Allmusic.com
Biography by Johnny Loftus
The four members of Chicago's Fall Out Boy came together in suburban Wilmette around 2000. Vocalist/guitarist Patrick Stumph, bassist Peter Wentz, drummer Andrew Hurley, and guitarist Joseph Trohman had all been in and out of various units connected to Chicago's underground hardcore scene. Most notably, Hurley drummed for Racetraitor, the furiously political metal-core outfit whose brief output was both a rallying point and sticking point within the hardcore community. As Fall Out Boy, the quartet used the unbridled intensity of hardcore as a foundation for melody-drenched pop-punk with a heavy debt to the emo scene. They debuted with a self-released demo in 2001, following it up in May 2002 with a split LP on Uprising that also featured Project Rocket. The band returned on the label in January with the mini-LP Fall Out Boy's Evening Out With Your Girl, but by this point a bidding war of sorts was already in full swing. Fall Out Boy eventually signed a deal with Gainesville, FL's Fueled by Ramen, the label co-owned by Less Than Jake drummer Vinnie Balzano, but also received an advance from Island Records to record their proper debut. The advance came with a right of first refusal for Island on Fall Out Boy's next album, but it also financed the recording of Take This to Your Grave, which occurred at Butch Vig's Smart Studios compound in Madison, WI, with Sean O'Keefe (Lucky Boys Confusion, Motion City Soundtrack) at the helm. Grave appeared in May 2003, and Fall Out Boy garnered positive reviews for its gigs at South by Southwest and numerous tour appearances.
Album Review by Johnny Loftus
Fall Out Boy's full-length label debut Take This to Your Grave is a smart collection of emo-influenced pop-punk tunes. It's long on harmony and the kind of earnest, dual guitar riffing listeners have come to expect from young rockers raised on a diet of hardcore, Punk-O-Rama comps, and MTV. But Fall Out Boy really necks ahead of the pack behind the enormous voice of dreamboat-in-training lead singer Patrick Stumph and lyrical content that merges musings on love and youth with healthy amounts of cutting cynicism, savvy popular culture touchstones, and cheeky phraseology. Though it was issued by Less Than Jake drummer Vinnie Balzano's Fueled By Ramen imprint, a hefty advance from Island allowed Fall Out Boy to record Grave at Butch Vig's Smart Studios compound in Madison, WI, and employ the skills of producer Sean O'Keefe, who'd handled the boards for units like Lucky Boys Confusion and Motion City Soundtrack. Of course, Island will be looking for a substantial return on investment from Fall Out Boy. But before the band follows in the footsteps of Jimmy Eat World and Dashboard Confessional â?? which it deserves to and will â?? listeners can enjoy Take This to Your Grave's undeniable mixture of exuberance and romantic hardcore.
Like a high-school dreamer's homeroom notebook, Grave's margins are littered with impossibly clever turns of phrase. A preliminary scan of the record's song titles is enough to prove this. From the double-time hardcore of "Reinventing the Wheel to Run Myself Over" to the shifting dynamics of "Homesick at Space Camp" (which was seemingly engineered by NASA to incite a crowd singalong), Fall Out Boy renders each song with a different mix of talents. Every time you think you've heard it all before, the band kills with another couplet. "I know I'm not your favorite record/The songs you grow to like never stick at first," Stumph croons in "Dead on Arrival." Later, "Calm Before the Storm" dissects a relationship with an almost intellectual mix of casual, MTV-generation reference-making and a dose of self-analysis that suggests sadcore anti-hero Bill Callahan. After name-checking a throwaway Top 40 ditty, Stumph addresses his ex: "What you do on your own time's just fine/My imagination's much worse." While Grave's 12 tracks run on the long-range external tanks of emotion that every teenager refuels with each miniature passing period drama, they're also professionally executed packets of melody. While the exposed nerve of hardcore is apparent throughout, Stumph, bassist Peter Wentz, drummer Andrew Hurley, and guitarist Joseph Trohman are making music for a generation that appreciates a good hook, and isn't necessarily concerned where it comes from. Alternative, hip-hop, California skatepunk â?? all the videos are directed the same way, and flannels, Fubu, and wallet chains are sometimes just set decorations. Fall Out Boy's positive is its honest intersection of pop's shallow nature with the rippling passion of hardcore. The band pulled all the frames of reference off the wall and built a larger one with the mismatched pieces. Inside it is Take This to Your Grave, a spectacular debut art project.
Similar Artists
Taking Back Sunday
Knockout
Dashboard Confessional
Motion City Soundtrack
Lucky Boys Confusion
Influenced By
Rites of Spring
Pennywise
NOFX
Sunny Day Real Estate
Jawbreaker
Jimmy Eat World
The Get Up Kids
Less Than Jake
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Show would have sold out sooner if the information had been set free. Guess Fall Out Boy is just to indie for the masses.
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Yeah, KV, how hysterical is it that the first "unannounced" show to sell out was one completely off the Forum radar?!?! I love it....
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De-ewd, FOB are all about secret sales and presales!! Check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Island Records Fall Out Boy website (http://www6.islandrecords.com/falloutboy/fob_splash.php)
04/08/2005
Pre-sales, Pre-sales, Pre-sales
In an attempt to clear up all the confusion regarding all of the presales... There are currently 3 presales going on.
1. The Tower Presale for the new record "From Under the Cork Tree" This Presale scores you a free t-shirt (if you pre-order by 4/11 @ 3:00PM (EST)) AND allows you access to the FOB secret site when you order the record.
2. Fueled By Ramen Presale for Clandestine Industries new DVD "Release the Bats." Check this one out - you'll be laughing your ass off for days.
3. Live Pre-sale for the new record. This FYE pre-sale is going on at the FOB merch table on the tour. This pre-sale gets you access to the secret website (your code should be on your receipt), a Fall Out Boy patch, and priority placement to meet the band after the show.
04/08/2005
**SPECIAL** Clandestine/Hot Topic offer!
As you all may or may not be aware ofâ?¦ The new Spring line of Clandestine clothing is being sold in Hot Topic along with Pete's book "The Boy with the Thorn In His Side." Aside from the fact that you'll undoubtably be the coolest kid in school, if you buy any Clandestine related item (clothing, book, DVD, etc..) you'll receive a free gift! FREE?! Yes. Awesome? You know it. Just hold on to your receipt, and more details will be on the way. This is only going on for a limited time, so hurry! If you want to check out all the Clan gear, visit clandestineindustries.com.
04/08/2005
Ticket Pre-Sales
A bunch of ticket pre-sales were just announced, including one for the 5/3 Irving Plaza New York show... Check out this ticket pre-sale page for a full list of ticket pre-sales...
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Meanwhile, the shows aren't even listed on the FOB website --
UPCOMING SHOWS
Sorry, no tour dates scheduled right now.
But the pre-sale page has 15 shows listed.
Can you tell I'm fascinated by this band and their whole phenomenon? How could I never have even heard of them??
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They came together in Wilmette, IL? Cha-CHING $$$ I'll bet they have starry eyes and will be the subject of several MTV reality shows.
As for the quick sell-out, who knew? Just goes to show sometimes that I really am better off listening to my Buzzcocks and UK Subs CD's.
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[snarky]they must have been played on the OC[/snarky]
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Originally posted by Bags:
How could I never have even heard of them??
do you like fitting in to the cookie-cutter pop-punk scene, but are always on the lookout for the next cool thing, so you can be cooler than all those who just like the big pop-punk/emo bands?
if not, and if you don't watch fuse or aren't in high school, i wouldn't be too concerned.
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also, the doors are at 5pm, how do they expect hard working individuals like me to come to the show? i guess everyone will get home before curfew.
i wonder how much of the crowd will stick around for the 10pm paul westerberg show ... i can't fucking wait for that ...
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
do you like fitting in to the cookie-cutter pop-punk scene, but are always on the lookout for the next cool thing, so you can be cooler than all those who just like the big pop-punk/emo bands?
if not, and if you don't watch fuse or aren't in high school, i wouldn't be too concerned.
I'm not concerned, just fascinated. I watch MTV2, MTV and VH-1 occasionally. I read Entertainment Weekly (with the special "Listen to This" music supplement). I've usually at least heard of these bands. Though it's true, I don't watch Fuse (where would I watch it? I don't think it's on my Starpower basic cable) and I don't read Rolling Stone or Spin, as they lost me from their demographic....
Fascinating. And also fascinating that the show is before the Westerberg late show. Alas, I think I'm going to miss that in order to catch Ivy over at Black Cat.
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Originally posted by Bags:
And also fascinating that the show is before the Westerberg late show. Alas, I think I'm going to miss that in order to catch Ivy over at Black Cat.
I can't decide which one of these I want to go to. Ivy or Westerberg?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[snarky]they must have been played on the OC[/snarky]
wrong... It was Smallville
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wrong... It was Smallville
i was thinking degrassi. in any case, this show might set the record for least beers sold at the club. no wonder they booked westerberg as the late show!
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hmmm... this could be a interesting double bill to dj, could almost play the same music for both shows. for educational and amusement purposes.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
hmmm... this could be a interesting double bill to dj, could almost play the same music for both shows. for educational and amusement purposes.
i would suggest heavy doses of superchunk, sunny day real estate, braid, and jawbox for fall out boy
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I can't decide which one of these I want to go to. Ivy or Westerberg?
I was having a hard time deciding myself, but I've never seen Ivy, and then a friend told me she went to college with Adam Schlesinger and really wants to go to the show....She never goes to shows, so it should be fun to have her along (plus I don't know who she'd get to go if not me!).
Of course you know that this ensures that the Westerberg show will be one of his best in years and years. Because I'm not going. So, actually, that may be the better bet for everyone but me. ;)
Along similar lines, I'll let everyone know when I finally buy a condo -- then you'll know the bubble is about to burst!
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I saw Ivy a couple of time at the 8x10 Club in Baltimore circa 1995. They were nothing special then, maybe their live show has improved. Their only true saving grace was that the singer was hot.