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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: AlanOnymous on June 13, 2005, 12:27:00 am
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What did the bass player say when he got up to the mic?
Who was the guy they brought up on stage?
Man that was a great show...
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The bass player was dedicating the next song to Ian Mackaye and all the music and bands he grew up listening to.
I can't remember the name of the guy they brought up on stage. It was the same guy that M.I.A. brought up on stage.
I was really hoping that Diplo would've been with M.I.A. The alternate DJ held his own pretty well. She started off a bit bumpy but got better as the show went on.
LCD Show was mostly good. Disappointed that they didn't play "Disco Infiltrator," but I was surprised when they played a song that I had on an old house mixtape from the mid-90's.
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the last two minutes of "tribulations" changed my life.
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Diplo was there last night, I saw him by the sound board. I heard that he didn't play because something is going on between him and Maya (good or bad, don't know...) The guy that went on stage was some random fan out of the crowd, he was on the metro last night...
On a side note, did anyone buy a poster last night, I designed them and let LCD keep all the profits. They sold out pretty quickly. Awesome show last night.
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Whats up everybody! Last night's show was...amazing! Not only did I get to see two of my favorite bands, but they bought me on stage and I got to dance my ass off!!! YEAH!! Oh, and my name is Ahmad (was I rambling at the mic?..hehe), hope I didn't look too stupid, and I hope I didn't bog down anybody's experience, but it totally rocked my socks! I mean, he was playing the guitar on my shoulders and shit...awesome...lol
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I thought LCD Soundsystem was great, though I have to admit I would have like to hear Disco Infiltrator and a few others from the CD. I have to admit, I liked all of the other songs they played, especially the last song before the encore. Tribulations was fantastic!
MIA did nothing for me at all, I still don't understand all the gushing over her by cirtics. Overall, very good show.
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ahmad, man, i am the newest member of your fan club. i was shaking it up on the balcony, but you were awesome. :D
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I enjoyed the candid nature of the show (broken strings, etc.), and the intensity.
It was also very cool to see the wide range of ages at the show. Guess that's the power of internet marketing.
I'm a casual fan with a lot of interest, so not hearing Disco Infiltrator helped me pay attention the "other" songs. A lot of the material benefitted from the live performance. I've a whole new respect for a lot of the songs.
I could have done without the Courtney Cox moment, though. ;)
Can somebody post a set-list? Are there any tour plans rumored to bring LCD back to this area anytime soon?
James Murphy gives me hope for music. Whatever happened to the Rapture?
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it went something like this:
beat connection
on repeat
(1st broken bass string)
give it up
tribulations
movement
(2nd broken bass string)
daft punk
losing my edge
slow dive (siouxsie & the banshees cover)
yeah
encore:
one or two songs that i didn't recognize.
it's all about perspective, but from where i was standing (floor, center about 15-20 ft back from the stage)...best, most energetic crowd i've ever seen at 930.
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i gotta say, i was really looking forward to seeing m.i.a., but i found her set highly disappointing. i have to disagree with whoever said the DJ did an admirable job of replacing diplo. i thought the beats were boring and generic. as for m.i.a. herself, i was expecting something a lot more wide-ranging and different, but it was really no better than most electro-clash. i've read all this fascinating stuff about her life and ideas, but it didn't translate into anything substantial to me. the hype machine is in full effect. i hate to say it -- and it will probably make me sound like an asshole -- but if m.i.a. was a white chick from chicago, there'd be no hype at all (this is purely on the aesthetic tip).
granted, knowing diplo's skills, if he were DJing, it likely would've brought out the best in her. despite that, i still found her vocals weak. the best part of the set was the animation (which she makes herself). i suppose i was just expecting something more pancultural and more reflective of her sri lankan background.
on the other hand, lcd soundsystem were excellent and far exceeded my expectations. the drummer was pat from an early incarnation of les savy fav, and that guy can throw down. i really dug the minimal musicianship, and that little moog the dude had in the back, and james murphy's vocals were impassioned if a bit cliche. nice to see him wearing a can shirt, and they captured the can ethos better than most who claim them as an influence (it's all about the minimal rhythms/polyrhythms).
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Yep, the crowd was definitely a highlight of the show. All those people jumping... it was great. Didn't seem like people on the balcony were dancing much though.
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RE: M.I.A.
It's funny how many times I've unsolicitedly heard: "I just don't get the appeal?".
RE: White chick from Chicago? Completely on the mark.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
i gotta say, i was really looking forward to seeing m.i.a., but i found her set highly disappointing. i have to disagree with whoever said the DJ did an admirable job of replacing diplo. i thought the beats were boring and generic. as for m.i.a. herself, i was expecting something a lot more wide-ranging and different, but it was really no better than most electro-clash. i've read all this fascinating stuff about her life and ideas, but it didn't translate into anything substantial to me. the hype machine is in full effect. i hate to say it -- and it will probably make me sound like an asshole -- but if m.i.a. was a white chick from chicago, there'd be no hype at all (this is purely on the aesthetic tip).
granted, knowing diplo's skills, if he were DJing, it likely would've brought out the best in her. despite that, i still found her vocals weak. the best part of the set was the animation (which she makes herself). i suppose i was just expecting something more pancultural and more reflective of her sri lankan background.
on the other hand, lcd soundsystem were excellent and far exceeded my expectations. the drummer was pat from an early incarnation of les savy fav, and that guy can throw down. i really dug the minimal musicianship, and that little moog the dude had in the back, and james murphy's vocals were impassioned if a bit cliche. nice to see him wearing a can shirt, and they captured the can ethos better than most who claim them as an influence (it's all about the minimal rhythms/polyrhythms).
I couldn't agree more with the M.I.A. comments. What was with the tsunami comment that went nowhere? I mean, I knew she was a gimmick to an extent, but she can't even back up her political beliefs (not that I care to hear them; I'm at a show, not at church). The DJ's name was "DJ Control." What? He couldn't even properly hit the 'pause' button on his CD player (of which the lone CD he was using were just the backing tracks straight from the LP). She seemed awfully sweet and humble, though; she could just be really naive. The opening Bush/Blair sequence was the best part.
LCD were good, but I go back and forth on deciding whether or not his records are a tribute or a rip-off. Sometimes his Mark E. Smith-isms are way too much. But I enjoyed the show. The last song was a Harry Nilsson cover (?).
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MIA is one of those artists who's best enjoyed if you shut down your mind and just go with it. I'm pretty sure her musicianship and vocals wouldn't stand up well to close scrutiny. It does, however, make me feel good and my feet move. It's too bad she's been over-hyped. She may not be all that, but she's not as bad as people have been making her out to be.
Of course, one has to ask how much of her sound is truly dependent on her DJ. Would have loved to hear how Diplo would have changed the sound.
Was surprised at the amount of people who left before LCD started. I had lots more room move and see. Loved the set. Great energy. The songs are so much better live than studio. What a testament to the band's abilities.
How bad would this show have sucked if the lineup had been reversed? Supposedly they were both headlining....
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i had a grand ole time up in the balcony last night. i thought it was all in all a great show...and ahmad, i too am now part of your fanclub.
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back from the dead (on loan from NYC)...
hell of a fun time last night. came for MIA, definitely stayed for LCD. wouldn't have worked the other way.
oh and Diplo would absolutely murder that other punk -- whoever he is. having seen MIA with Diplo in NY, I can safely say that dip's what's really good. saw him at dragonfly after the show and he tore into some of that dirty south (and those favela breaks) he loves so much -- would have been great to hear him bang that shit at 930.
and snail, good to see you again. let me know when the psych-kraut-metal-core is at the warehouse and we'll do it right.
oh, and ahmad...you made me proud to be back in DC last night. plus, if megs is in your fan club, you're doing something right.
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walkie, you confirmed what i had suspected. i would definitely give m.i.a. another chance if diplo was backing her up.
good to you see again, and the next killer warehouse show is green milk from the planet orange, a japanese space rock/psych/prog band, next monday, june 20th.
and i also agree that lcd is better live than on record.
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Thanks for the luv guys! Glad you enjoyed my little impromtu dancing...hehe. Yeah, that last LCD song was "Jump Into The Fire" by Harry Nilsson (first featured on the "Songwriter" album). I thought M.I.A. was damn good, actually, even though I thought that LCD was way better. The section I was in (front center) was really highly energetic, but when I looked back into the crowd, it seemed like it was kinda dead. I wish more people would just let loose and f*ckin dance instead of just standing there looking dull, and it seemed that way towards the back of the club.
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If anyone missed out on getting a poster last night (sold out), I have very few left for sale, PM me if interested...
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ahmad i wish you were my friend. you're so energetic. i got some video of you dancing with m.i.a. are you going to bloc party? hope so.
i thought m.i.a. was ok. the crowd really made the show. everyone in the balcony seemed dead. i was up there too, but i was dancing while others just stood there. i too was surprised to see so many different people there.
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LCD was weak. The music is certainly excellent but the singer needs to get tossed from the band. Fatty, bad haircut, bad dressed. I'm not into dudes but lead singers of bands need to have sex appeal; it is a performance art. He just kind of yells and talks. Nothing doing. But again, the music they make is great. I'd like my money back on them because they didn't really make me all that excited about hearing them.
MIA was solid. One thing I found interesting was the fact that she thought the stage in DC was hot. Um...aren't you always talking about how you're from Sri Lanka? Isn't Sri Lanka, like, considerably hotter than DC? Yes, so unless you are really from England then you don't make any sense.
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wow...i'm really surprised to see all the negative comments about m.i.a. i thought she totally rocked. i do agree that lcd is way better live than on cd, but i still think maya blew them out of the water, i would have loved to see her close the show. and as far as the white chick comment goes...give me a f-ing break. that's a really ignorant thing to say.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
i gotta say, i was really looking forward to seeing m.i.a., but i found her set highly disappointing. i have to disagree with whoever said the DJ did an admirable job of replacing diplo. i thought the beats were boring and generic. as for m.i.a. herself, i was expecting something a lot more wide-ranging and different, but it was really no better than most electro-clash. i've read all this fascinating stuff about her life and ideas, but it didn't translate into anything substantial to me. the hype machine is in full effect. i hate to say it -- and it will probably make me sound like an asshole -- but if m.i.a. was a white chick from chicago, there'd be no hype at all (this is purely on the aesthetic tip).
granted, knowing diplo's skills, if he were DJing, it likely would've brought out the best in her. despite that, i still found her vocals weak. the best part of the set was the animation (which she makes herself). i suppose i was just expecting something more pancultural and more reflective of her sri lankan background.
I mostly saw public enemy once a few years ago. I say "mostly" because Terminator X wasn't DJing for them, and the replacement was awful. All he did was literally play background tracks and didn't try to mix it up at all. After seeing that "replacement" and seeing this one, I can say at least he tried. Hell they could've just gotten one of the sound guys to go up there and play an instrumental version of the album for them to sing to.
If M.I.A. were a "white chick from Chicago," she'd probably be selling out stadiums, not the 9:30, and every indie kid in the universe would dismiss her as too popular to be interesting.
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I thought m.i.a. was a lot of fun and was not aware that diplo wasn't manning the beats. From where I was standing I couldn't see if he was operating a cd player, being sloppy behind some turntables or what. So why the hell wasn't he up there on stage if he was in the building. That's lame-ass shit. I do agree that her set started off pretty boring, but got livelier once the crowd warmed up to her more and I would have liked to have seen more of that sri lankan devil dancing :eek: . Ahmad did tear it up tho - some of the best moves this side of Terry Crews. So i enjoyed her set enough but thought she's a much more animated and colorful personality on record.
LCD could be a pretty powerful instrumental band but their singer Mr. Murphy is just obnoxious and made it impossible for me to respect anything they were doing most of the time. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't succeed as being any more than another posturing school-of-Can goofball. If they were honestly students of Can, don't you think they would care to embrace some of their less obvious qualities other than their rhythmic sense the occasional blast of controlled guitar feedback? I'll put it this way - Can's biggest influences (popular music, not classical) probably lied in the music of the Beatles, the Velvet Underground and James Brown & the Jb's, but did they sound anything like those bands? Hardly. But if you think about it, the influences make complete sense. I'm sorry, but LCD just don't add up to much for me and James Murphy is nothing more than a charlatan in my book. Although I will say that the last 2 or 3 songs, including the cover, was pretty damn crucial actually. I'll maybe grab those tracks off p2p or some shit.
oh yea, the song where he actually name checks Can, Suicide, Lee Perry, Beefheart and some others was in VERY poor taste. Gross.
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I mostly saw public enemy once a few years ago. I say "mostly" because Terminator X wasn't DJing for them, and the replacement was awful. All he did was literally play background tracks and didn't try to mix it up at all. After seeing that "replacement" and seeing this one, I can say at least he tried. Hell they could've just gotten one of the sound guys to go up there and play an instrumental version of the album for them to sing to.
duuude, dj lord slays - he ain't no replacement dj! fuck terminator x. all that man had to his name was a bankroll. you must not know your p.e. history cuz its well set in stone that johnny juice, hank shocklee and even CHUCK did those cuts on all those p.e. records. I saw them with Lord at the Nation gig a few years ago and he seems to come from a D&B background or something because he was just annihilating the pitch control while needle dropping when he did his solo.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
oh yea, the song where he actually name checks Can, Suicide, Lee Perry, Beefheart and some others was in VERY poor taste. Gross.
i'm not a huge LCD fan, but i think you're talking about "losing my edge", which is intended to be 100% completely sarcastic
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Originally posted by nayr497:
LCD was weak. The music is certainly excellent but the singer needs to get tossed from the band. Fatty, bad haircut, bad dressed. I'm not into dudes but lead singers of bands need to have sex appeal; it is a performance art. He just kind of yells and talks. Nothing doing. But again, the music they make is great. I'd like my money back on them because they didn't really make me all that excited about hearing them.
MIA was solid. One thing I found interesting was the fact that she thought the stage in DC was hot. Um...aren't you always talking about how you're from Sri Lanka? Isn't Sri Lanka, like, considerably hotter than DC? Yes, so unless you are really from England then you don't make any sense.
are you the type of person who asks for their money back when they see a movie you don't like? who bitches at a waiter because your steak is medium instead of medium rare?
so let me get this straight, you liked LCD's music, but you thought murphy was fat and sloppy and didn't "get too excited", so you want your money back?
riiiiight.
and what is that blabbering about MIA saying it was hot? read that back and see if it makes any sense to you. if a black guy tells you its hot, do you respond with "hey, you're originally from africa!! i bet it's a lot hotter there!!"
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
oh yea, the song where he actually name checks Can, Suicide, Lee Perry, Beefheart and some others was in VERY poor taste. Gross.
i'm not a huge LCD fan, but i think you're talking about "losing my edge", which is intended to be 100% completely sarcastic [/b]
Lyrics:
Yeah, I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge.
The kids are coming up from behind.
I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge to the kids from France and from London.
But I was there.
I was there in 1968.
I was there at the first Can show in Cologne.
I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge to the kids whose footsteps I hear when they get on the decks.
I'm losing my edge to the Internet seekers who can tell me every member of every good group from 1962 to 1978.
I'm losing my edge.
To all the kids in Tokyo and Berlin.
I'm losing my edge to the art-school Brooklynites in little jackets and borrowed nostalgia for the unremembered eighties.
But I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge, but I was there.
I was there.
But I was there.
I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge.
I can hear the footsteps every night on the decks.
But I was there.
I was there in 1974 at the first Suicide practices in a loft in New York City.
I was working on the organ sounds with much patience.
I was there when Captain Beefheart started up his first band.
I told him, "Don't do it that way. You'll never make a dime."
I was there.
I was the first guy playing Daft Punk to the rock kids.
I played it at CBGB's.
Everybody thought I was crazy.
We all know.
I was there.
I was there.
I've never been wrong.
I used to work in the record store.
I had everything before anyone.
I was there in the Paradise Garage DJ booth with Larry Levan.
I was there in Jamaica during the great sound clashes.
I woke up naked on the beach in Ibiza in 1988.
But I'm losing my edge to better-looking people with better ideas and more talent.
And they're actually really, really nice.
I'm losing my edge.
I heard you have a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody. Every great song by the Beach Boys. All the underground hits. All the Modern Lovers tracks. I heard you have a vinyl of every Niagra record on German import. I heard that you have a white label of every seminal Detroit techno hit - 1985, '86, '87. I heard that you have a CD compilation of every good '60s cut and another box set from the '70s.
I hear you're buying a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and are throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real. You want to make a Yaz record.
I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars.
I hear everybody that you know is more relevant than everybody that I know.
But have you seen my records? This Heat, Pere Ubu, Outsiders, Nation of Ulysses, Mars, The Trojans, The Black Dice, Todd Terry, the Germs, Section 25, Althea and Donna, Sexual Harrassment, a-ha, Pere Ubu, Dorothy Ashby, PIL, the Fania All-Stars, the Bar-Kays, the Human League, the Normal, Lou Reed, Scott Walker, Monks, Niagra,
Joy Division, Lower 48, the Association, Sun Ra,
Scientists, Royal Trux, 10cc,
Eric B. and Rakim, Index, Basic Channel, Soulsonic Force ("just hit me"!), Juan Atkins, David Axelrod, Electric Prunes, Gil! Scott! Heron!, the Slits, Faust, Mantronix, Pharaoh Sanders and the Fire Engines, the Swans, the Soft Cell, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics.
You don't know what you really want. (x15)
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
oh yea, the song where he actually name checks Can, Suicide, Lee Perry, Beefheart and some others was in VERY poor taste. Gross.
i'm not a huge LCD fan, but i think you're talking about "losing my edge", which is intended to be 100% completely sarcastic [/b]
hmmmm.. i didn't actually think the dude was running down a list of bands he thought were cool, but in a way he was - regardless of what the song is actually about. I sensed the sarcasm but c'mon dude ain't pullin the wool over my eyes. i know what he's really doin.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
duuude, dj lord slays - he ain't no replacement dj! fuck terminator x. all that man had to his name was a bankroll. you must not know your p.e. history cuz its well set in stone that johnny juice, hank shocklee and even CHUCK did those cuts on all those p.e. records. I saw them with Lord at the Nation gig a few years ago and he seems to come from a D&B background or something because he was just annihilating the pitch control while needle dropping when he did his solo.
Duuude...it wasn't DJ Lord when I saw them. It was someone completely different, who was subbing because X had been in a motorcycle accident the week before. This was around the time of the release of Muse Sick-N-Hour Mess Age.
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Originally posted by nayr497:
The music is certainly excellent but the singer needs to get tossed from the band. Fatty, bad haircut, bad dressed. I'm not into dudes but lead singers of bands need to have sex appeal; it is a performance art. He just kind of yells and talks. Nothing doing. But again, the music they make is great. I'd like my money back on them because they didn't really make me all that excited about hearing them.
So what you're saying is that you think that the music LCD makes would be much better if you eliminate...the guy who writes LCD's music?
Originally posted by nayr497:
MIA was solid. One thing I found interesting was the fact that she thought the stage in DC was hot. Um...aren't you always talking about how you're from Sri Lanka? Isn't Sri Lanka, like, considerably hotter than DC? Yes, so unless you are really from England then you don't make any sense.
Funny that you would say that, since she is from England. Not being English doesn't mean she doesn't live there. I have a friend who's Egyptian. Is she not allowed to bitch about the heat either, despite the fact that she spent most of her life in Buffalo, NY?
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LCD could be a pretty powerful instrumental band but their singer Mr. Murphy is just obnoxious and made it impossible for me to respect anything they were doing most of the time. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't succeed as being any more than another posturing school-of-Can goofball.
good point there; i wasn't really too keen on his vocals for the most part. i was digging on the metronomic drumming and little synth and percussive details more than anything. i agree that LCD would be more enjoyable without the cliched "yeah"ing, though i must give him props for an impassioned performance.
If they were honestly students of Can, don't you think they would care to embrace some of their less obvious qualities other than their rhythmic sense the occasional blast of controlled guitar feedback?
in a perfect world, yes. but as it is, i never expect some hipster band to pull out all the stops and really do the can thing the right way. i'll leave that to journeyman psych bands like cul de sac and ghost. i would never expect LCD to get into some intense ethno polyrhythms while ripping off a ridiculous fuzzed-out guitar solo, and malcolm mooney or damo suzuki james murphy is most certainly not. my point is, sadly, in this era, you've got to lower your standards/expectations to enjoy a lot of music that blatantly pays homage -- or attempts to pay homage -- to the pioneers of postmodern music. i simply felt that LCD did an admirable job, instrumentally, of taking the minimal approach to rhythm that can did, moreso than the majority of their peers who also claim can as an influence. and as good as pat is, he cannot begin to approach the monstrous jaki liebezeit.
I'll put it this way - Can's biggest influences (popular music, not classical) probably lied in the music of the Beatles, the Velvet Underground and James Brown & the Jb's, but did they sound anything like those bands? Hardly. But if you think about it, the influences make complete sense. I'm sorry, but LCD just don't add up to much for me and James Murphy is nothing more than a charlatan in my book.
hmmm...interesting that you name the beatles as an influence on can...i think the stones were more of an influence. the velvets influence is obvious. anyhow, i'd say that murphy is certainly no genius or pioneer, but is good at what he does, and is no more a charlatan than hundreds of other pretenders (most of whom do a much more terrible job at ripping off gang of four and the cure).
Although I will say that the last 2 or 3 songs, including the cover, was pretty damn crucial actually. I'll maybe grab those tracks off p2p or some shit.
perhaps this is why i enjoyed the set as much as i did...i only caught the last 45 minutes or so.
i never knew about that "losing my edge" song, but those lyrics are kinda funny, as he's obviously poking fun of know-it-all hipsters. is he not pullin' the wool over your eyes because he is precisely one of those hipsters he is mocking?
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
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M.I.A. and LCD Soundsystem at 9:30
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One used samples and scratching while the other featured live musicians, but the two acts that "co-headlined" Sunday night at the 9:30 club were well matched. Both Sri Lankan-bred, London-based chanter M.I.A. and New York's dance-punk LCD Soundsystem emphasized rhythm over melody, and energetic delivery over vocal range.
M.I.A. limited her political commentary to one remark about the failure of aid to reach the Tamil regions of her tsunami-devastated homeland. Behind her, however, video animations intimated much more: The images included tanks, bombs, fighter planes, stone-throwing youths and a loping tiger. (M.I.A.'s father was a member of the Tamil Tigers, a separatist guerrilla group.) The messages of the songs, among them "Pull Up the People," were less graphic, although clearly insurrectionary in tone if not content.
M.I.A. was backed by DJ Contra and vocalist Cherry, who doubled certain phrases and sang melodic passages, including the refrain to "Sunshowers." (M.I.A. has never claimed to be much of a singer.) Contra's additions were sometimes too busy, overcomplicating the elemental, heavily distorted music. Nothing, however, could overwhelm the joyous swagger of "Galang," M.I.A.'s signature anthem.
James Murphy is the only full-time member of LCD Soundsystem, which combines dance beats with punk demeanor. Onstage, the studio mastermind was joined by four other musicians, who animated his stark, beat-oriented material. Murphy doesn't have much stage presence, and his rough, artless singing merely bludgeoned numbers like the minimalist "Yeah" and the ironic "Losing My Edge." But metronomic drummer Pat Mahoney and modal guitarist Phil Mossman filled the breach, making the Soundsystem sound like a discofied (if Iggy-less) update of the Stooges.
-- Mark Jenkins
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/13/AR2005061301705.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/13/AR2005061301705.html)
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
Although I will say that the last 2 or 3 songs, including the cover, was pretty damn crucial actually. I'll maybe grab those tracks off p2p or some shit.
word up man. you're a loser. so you talk about the band and respect, and then you're gonna go steal their music? nice.
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Originally posted by nayr497:
LCD was weak. The music is certainly excellent but the singer needs to get tossed from the band. Fatty, bad haircut, bad dressed. I'm not into dudes but lead singers of bands need to have sex appeal; it is a performance art. He just kind of yells and talks. Nothing doing. But again, the music they make is great. I'd like my money back on them because they didn't really make me all that excited about hearing them.
MIA was solid. One thing I found interesting was the fact that she thought the stage in DC was hot. Um...aren't you always talking about how you're from Sri Lanka? Isn't Sri Lanka, like, considerably hotter than DC? Yes, so unless you are really from England then you don't make any sense.
One of the lines in one of his songs is "...and who is the fat guy in the t-shirt singing all the songs?" Who CARES what he looks like. I can't wait for Hairspray The Musical to crossover to high schools so the fat girl and the effiminate drag queen will have the lead roles, giving you (and god forbid, if you decide to breed) and your kids an education in prejudice. I'm glad he was an eyesore for you. I'm not even big, but WHO GIVES A FUCK? You're a twat.
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i don't quite understand this either... louis xiv gets bagged on because the lead singer is "fat"... now either the video screen at merriweather made him appear thinner or he's lost poundage. what i saw a slightly overweight person, kind like a normal american like myself. if you've gonna bag on louis xiv then do it because they are a medicore band of glam wannabies.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
oh yea, the song where he actually name checks Can, Suicide, Lee Perry, Beefheart and some others was in VERY poor taste. Gross.
are you kidding me? reading this message board infuriates me -- it's like people never listened to lcd or M.I.A. before. honestly, before i dropped $20+ (depending where or when you got the tix) for a show, i'd read up. the "name-checking" is the point of the song. murphy's making fun of people like you, hon.
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My intro to LCD was the cover story of the January 2005 (Issue 251) The Wire (http://www.thewire.co.uk) (not available on The Wire's site but scanned (http://www.lcdsoundsystem.com/press.php?region=uk&art=2005-1-0-0) by LCD).
The sense I got from the article was that Murphy believes that the indie scene sucks as much as the major. His current music is his reaction: strip away all the crap and build new sounds out of what's left. It's a tried and true formula--punk was a reaction to prog rock, minimalism to serialism, classical to rococo, etc. Of course the influences are patent but after tearing away all the fat a skeleton remains. The Ramones built their sound on surf, garage and girl groups; Murphy likes the krauts and no-wavers.
As for supposed hipster-cred I don't think Murphy cares a flying fuck. Hip has become so commodified and politicized that it no longer holds any real value. "Losing My Edge" mocks hip til it whithers up and dies; for Murphy, it's time to move on and start making new sounds while still having fun regardless of whether anyone thinks its hip or not. Hip is dead and there's no use crying about it.
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Originally posted by hmcd:
reading this message board infuriates me
i cant laugh at this statement hard enough!
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Originally posted by hmcd:
it's like people never listened to lcd or M.I.A. before. honestly, before i dropped $20+ (depending where or when you got the tix) for a show, i'd read up.
well, you are probably right. This show was way hyped up, Sold Out even! MIA is totally wack (IMHO) and LCD has been kicking ass for several years now (Losin my edge is at least 2-3 years old). but all of a sudden its the show to go to, so everyone went and its not really surprising that there were people who said "wait a tick! i dont like this kind of music!!!!"
sad but true
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great post (referring to beetsnotbeats)...i couldn't agree more. any criticisms i have of either MIA or LCD are purely aesthetic, as i don't doubt the sincerity of maya and murphy.
i knew my "white chick from chicago" comment would piss off somebody, and i only stand by it in the live context that i just experienced (so you can't take it as an accurate barometer of the whole artistic spectrum). whatever i have heard on record was infinitely better than what i saw live, and i already explained what i felt was lacking. i didn't realize that she doesn't think so highly of her vocal skills, and i think her concepts got buried in sunday's set. so what i meant by my comment, based on the music that emanated from the stage, was that it was no better than the mediocre electroclash crap every art-school chick with legwarmers was making in 2002.
and sonick, what does file sharing have to do with being "genuine" or "real"? shoot ur shot was talking about sincerity on a purely artistic level.
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I agree abt the energy level. I'm a bit late, but Can anyone provide names of LCD's last 2 songs (covers)?
Originally posted by SalParadise:
encore:
one or two songs that i didn't recognize.
it's all about perspective, but from where i was standing (floor, center about 15-20 ft back from the stage)...best, most energetic crowd i've ever seen at 930. [/QB]
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hahaha salparadise, good shit. But hey man when you go on stage strutting a Can shirt, your band is subject to scrutiny a bit more than any other dance punk band, who I'm generally not a fan of but usually find harmless nonetheless.
sonickteam: I throw down absurds amount of cash on music every month. Unfortunately I'm not rolling in it to be buying a CD/LP for only 2 or 3 tracks. Odds are I'll get bored of them after about one or two listens and bounce them anyway. Giving them that second chance only opens up the possibility of improving my impression of their music. I first heard LCD in the fall of last year when my roommate at college had acquired their album from a p2p file-sharing client and played it for me. If it weren't for mp3's, lcd and m.i.a. would have probably never gotten as big as they have, especially in regards to artists like lcd soundsystem/dfa records who don't get heavy radio/video airtime. Do you think the DFA remixes gained so much attention because their fans all happen to be DJ's collecting all of their sides? Why do you think every band and their mothers has a myspace.com band website loaded with mp3's now? It amazes me that there's still people that don't realize the immense marketing potential available through file sharing. I wish people would educate themselves further on this before forming such strong opinions. This is a decent article (http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/01/file_trading_manifesto/) in favor of p2p file sharing. Please read through it when you can.
hmcd, point well taken but after looking over the song lyrics, mr. murphy seems to be highly critical of not only name-dropping hipster kids, but a slam on all musical trends in western popular music. The lyric "I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars." is critical of music enthusiasts that attach themselves to certain musical movements in attempts to be cutting edge, but lack any cogency or real musical erudition to form educated opinions about music. Thus rendering all trends in music meaningless, full of contradictions and flirtatious amateurs. All ofwhich is an outlook I tend to share myself. But, what it seems to boil down to is James Murphy telling everyone that they are unqualified to criticize or "box in" the music of LCD Soundsystem which is a pretty arrogant stance to take. The song is more than likely a response to some negative criticism james murphy came across in a music publication or webzine, which most songs like this tend to stem from. I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.
From The Wire article linked above:
"In interviews or emails I try to be as transparent as I can be so it's not like, 'Here's the new cool'," Murphy says. "That's something I try to avoid. The funny thing is, when I most publicly tried to deal with that issue was what made me the coolest. "Losing My Edge" made me really cool, which I think is the funniest, most absurd thing ever. Doesn't anybody get it? All right, nobody gets it. That's what interviews are for."
But the reason people responded so strongly to "Losing My Edge" was that Murphy was willing to make himself part of the joke.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
what it seems to boil down to is James Murphy telling everyone that they are unqualified to criticize or "box in" the music of LCD Soundsystem which is a pretty arrogant stance to take. The song is more than likely a response to some negative criticism james murphy came across in a music publication or webzine, which most songs like this tend to stem from. I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.
You're looking way too into it and I would suggest trying to find the answer from the horses mouth rather than speculating as you have done here.
EDIT: Apparently the horse has been found. Nicely done beetsnotbeats.
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
sonickteam: I throw down absurds amount of cash on music every month. Unfortunately I'm not rolling in it to be buying a CD/LP for only 2 or 3 tracks. Odds are I'll get bored of them after about one or two listens and bounce them anyway. Giving them that second chance only opens up the possibility of improving my impression of their music. I first heard LCD in the fall of last year when my roommate at college had acquired their album from a p2p file-sharing client and played it for me. If it weren't for mp3's, lcd and m.i.a. would have probably never gotten as big as they have, especially in regards to artists like lcd soundsystem/dfa records who don't get heavy radio/video airtime. Do you think the DFA remixes gained so much attention because their fans all happen to be DJ's collecting all of their sides? Why do you think every band and their mothers has a myspace.com band website loaded with mp3's now? It amazes me that there's still people that don't realize the immense marketing potential available through file sharing. I wish people would educate themselves further on this before forming such strong opinions. This is a decent article (http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/01/file_trading_manifesto/) in favor of p2p file sharing. Please read through it when you can.
i never said i was against file sharing.
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As far as I'm concerned, husky or not.. Murphy is a sexy guy. Especially after that performance. Nobody stays 22 forever and some of us aren't afraid of a little extra padding. Next time stay home and watch MTV if you want to rub one out or can't suffer the "real world".
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
i never said i was against file sharing.
fuggg.. yer right. totally misinterpreted what you said and am regretting wasting my energy in typing that little spiel. :mad:
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Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
Originally posted by sonickteam4:
i never said i was against file sharing.
fuggg.. yer right. totally misinterpreted what you said and am regretting wasting my energy in typing that little spiel. :mad: [/b]
its ok! i regret wasting my energy a lot on this board, but its fun! suppose i am just mad cause i didnt go to the show...