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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on August 22, 2006, 01:31:00 pm
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in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
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typical Dylan assholishness. gotta love that man.
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I heard he was crap during his show in Frederick this past weekend.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
I heard he was crap during his show in Frederick this past weekend.
Not surprising, since you called the show crap before it even happened.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
I heard he was crap during his show in Frederick this past weekend.
Not surprising, since you called the show crap before it even happened. [/b]
oh no he didn't!
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
I heard he was crap during his show in Frederick this past weekend.
Not surprising, since you called the show crap before it even happened. [/b]
oh no he didn't! [/b]
yuh huh (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009325;p=11#000403)
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My boss went to the show and thought he was crap...and I saw Dylan last year and thought the same ;) so there.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Joe M.:
I heard he was crap during his show in Frederick this past weekend.
Not surprising, since you called the show crap before it even happened. [/b]
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the funniest part of the show was that no photos were allowed (i guess?). the bouncers up front would point at several people during each song and yell at them. even people people with cell phones. i kind of wished i had brought my camera + flash. i would have blinded the f out of them.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
i thought he was referring to the quality of sound on a cd. . .something that sir hc certainly has had issues with.
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excerpt from the article on Wired (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71636-0.html)
best quote, talking about his latest record: "Even these songs probably sounded 10 times better in the studio when we recorded 'em. CDs are small. There's no stature to it."
cds are small... dangnabit, hows ya gunna fit good sound on sumtin' dat small?!? ya need soemthing the size of vinyl to put decent sound on!
and given his age and the amount of live shows he's done, what are the chances that he has anything close to a decent sense of hearing left? answer: none.
what a douche.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
best quote, talking about his latest record: "Even these songs probably sounded 10 times better in the studio when we recorded 'em. CDs are small. There's no stature to it."
cds are small... dangnabit, hows ya gunna fit good sound on sumtin' dat small?!? ya need soemthing the size of vinyl to put decent sound on!
and given his age and the amount of live shows he's done, what are the chances that he has anything close to a decent sense of hearing left? answer: none.
what a douche.
i believe that there are quite a few people who would agree with dylan's sentiment. although, i remember dave mustaine saying something along the lines of "if they think that music sounds bad in digital, it just means that they suck."
and calling dylan a douche. that is just wrong. i mean, it's not k-fed saying that digital music sounds awful.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
and calling dylan a douche. that is just wrong. i mean, it's not k-fed saying that digital music sounds awful.
Did you just compare Dylan and k-fed? My how far you've come...
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i believe that there are quite a few people who would agree with dylan's sentiment.
yeah, the old digital-vs-analog debate - sorry, definitely didn't mean to resurrect that dead horse.
although, i remember dave mustaine saying something along the lines of "if they think that music sounds bad in digital, it just means that they suck."
:)
my favorite quote on the subject was an interview with some Big Name producer (forget which one) wherein he said "i use analog for its sounds, and use digital for its non-sound".
and calling dylan a douche. that is just wrong. i mean, it's not k-fed saying that digital music sounds awful.
dylan is 65 years old - his hearing is damaged by both age and countless performances where he was blasted by the monitors for hours on end. result: i'm dubious of his ability to comment on sound quality. maybe douche was too strong, but he seemed awfully certain about the modern-day sound quality thing. then again, maybe i'm the one being an incredulous douche :)
i certainly respect what he's done in terms of song writing, lyrics, and development of the folk and rock genres.
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and that horrible motorcycle crash...
i love Dylan to lots of itty bitty pieces. he has made some outstanding music. as a person though, i can't say the same thing. he's been known to do and say some pretty rude things. still doesn't make him any less genius. and i wouldn't ever call him a douche. an asshole, and especially for what he did to Warhol... but not a douche.
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and i wouldn't ever call him a douche. an asshole, and especially for what he did to Warhol... but not a douche.
really? personally, an asshole is worse than a douche, in my vocab. but i'm not from these parts, so what do i know... maybe douche is worse/less respectful/etc.
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I'd say Dylan's scathing personality is one of the main things that makes his music so great. In my mind you can't have one without the other....I love the way his cynicism and venom shine through on some of the older stuff, esp after he started turning it up. Clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
Ballad of a Thin Man is good example......just love that song and that whole record.
Asshole, douche, shitbag, who cares. It's Dylan. Without him, well, who knows. I don't care how personable he is.
And as far as using one of Warhol's paintings as a dartboard, well he probably just increased its value a thousand times.
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Rumor on the street is that Foo Fighters are opening for Dylan on his fall tour -- they'll be playing their acoustic set.
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And by the way, how did Warhol expect Dylan to act when he came in for a visit?
That's like having GG Allin over for brunch and then being surprised when he shits on your floor and tries to fuck your dog.
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I din't know dead people could shit or fuck dogs.
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You din't?
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I would like to point out that I have bascially said the same thing that Dylan is saying. Does that make me an asshole and a douche, too?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
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Not for that specific reason, no.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I would like to point out that I have bascially said the same thing that Dylan is saying. Does that make me an asshole and a douche, too?
:)
Originally posted by walkonby:
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
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Originally posted by who the fuck are you?:
I'd say Dylan's scathing personality is one of the main things that makes his music so great. In my mind you can't have one without the other....I love the way his cynicism and venom shine through on some of the older stuff, esp after he started turning it up. Clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
Ballad of a Thin Man is good example......just love that song and that whole record.
Asshole, douche, shitbag, who cares. It's Dylan. Without him, well, who knows. I don't care how personable he is.
And as far as using one of Warhol's paintings as a dartboard, well he probably just increased its value a thousand times.
I actually wasn't even referring to that, hmm...
But yeah, I think as well that's one of the things that's so great about Dylan. He kind of knows he's a dick and knows he can get away with it because he writes brilliant music, and listening to him...if you know more about him, you want to hate him but it becomes difficult to do so because he's also so sincere. I guess I could say I respect him for speaking his mind.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by who the fuck are you?:
I'd say Dylan's scathing personality is one of the main things that makes his music so great. In my mind you can't have one without the other....I love the way his cynicism and venom shine through on some of the older stuff, esp after he started turning it up. Clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
Ballad of a Thin Man is good example......just love that song and that whole record.
Asshole, douche, shitbag, who cares. It's Dylan. Without him, well, who knows. I don't care how personable he is.
And as far as using one of Warhol's paintings as a dartboard, well he probably just increased its value a thousand times.
I actually wasn't even referring to that, hmm...
But yeah, I think as well that's one of the things that's so great about Dylan. He kind of knows he's a dick and knows he can get away with it because he writes brilliant music, and listening to him...if you know more about him, you want to hate him but it becomes difficult to do so because he's also so sincere. I guess I could say I respect him for speaking his mind. [/b]
So then what exactly did he do to warhol?
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He stole Edie Sedgwick.
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Yes, but she ended up with Kevin Bacon, of the fabulously talented Birchmere regulars the Bacon Brothers. Funny how often everything works out perfectly in the end.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
Oh yes I think I've heard some version of that story. Boo hoo.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
He didn't just take Edie...he "stole" a good half of the guy's friends. In short, he sabatoged Warhol, and then he proceeded to lead on, lie to, and sabatoge Edie. Prick.
He had some pretty obnoxious management, too.
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In other words, Warhol's hangers on decided to hitch their wagon to Dylan instead.
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they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.
warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
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i liked that song he did about having one headlight, and edie sedgewick is awesome in that tv show
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in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static
Well he obviously hasn't heard the new record by The Killers..... (http://www.nme.com/news/the-killers/22962)
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he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static."
i liked that song he did about having one headlight,
Such an encouraging father...
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
He didn't just take Edie...he "stole" a good half of the guy's friends. In short, he sabatoged Warhol, and then he proceeded to lead on, lie to, and sabatoge Edie. Prick.
He had some pretty obnoxious management, too. [/b]
So, is he back to being an asshole, or a douche? Oh, wait, he's a dick now. :roll:
Who gives a ...yeah, what sonick said.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Yes, but she ended up with Kevin Bacon, of the fabulously talented Birchmere regulars the Bacon Brothers. Funny how often everything works out perfectly in the end.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
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Wrong Sedgwick, but somehow, I think you knew this.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.
warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
Warhol wouldn't have been Warhol without the others. And especially Edie. But the way I see it, if the friends were that fickle in the first place, it wasn't such a horrible loss. It was just serious below-the-belt bullshit on Dylan's part, and I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody...
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"I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody..."
Sure you will, just give it time.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by walkonby:
they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.
warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
But the way I see it, if the friends were that fickle in the first place, it wasn't such a horrible loss. It was just serious below-the-belt bullshit on Dylan's part, and I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody... [/b]
Exactly. I mean, no one is "stolen". They pretty much move where they want to, unless kidnapped. What is this high school?
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Well, she was kind of stolen. Dylan and his manager lied to her to get her away from Andy. So while she did willingly leave, it wasn't really...well, you know. She was kind of brainwashed into it. Whatever.
Did anyone else see that Dylan will be touring with Kings of Leon?
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Did anyone else see that Dylan will be touring with Kings of Leon?
yup, and the raconteurs, and the foo fighters (acoustic set)... dates and details here: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/38156/The_Raconteurs_to_Tour_With_Bob_Dylan (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/38156/The_Raconteurs_to_Tour_With_Bob_Dylan)
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warhol knew that most of the slags that leeched off of his fame, were just that. that's why he never gave them money, just food. people on drugs disgusted him, really, no matter how cool and gay they pretended to be. the only thing dylan stole from warhol, if anything, was an excuse on his part to seem nice.
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Warhol was also hoping Edie would kill herself, so he could film it.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Warhol was also hoping Edie would kill herself, so he could film it.
god . . . that would of been great. but he would of wanted her to do it over an six hour period.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Warhol was also hoping Edie would kill herself, so he could film it.
god . . . that would of been great. but he would of wanted her to do it over an six hour period. [/b]
And she wouldn't have been allowed to say anything.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Warhol was also hoping Edie would kill herself, so he could film it.
and he made that statement just as the Dylan & Edie split was starting...
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Odd that Mr. Anti-digital would be the new salesperson for iTunes+iPod....anything for a buck I guess.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Odd that Mr. Anti-digital would be the new salesperson for iTunes+iPod....anything for a buck I guess.
I know, right? I saw that too and was quite puzzled. Oh well. At least it's a sick commercial.
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not sure what the Venn Diagram of Dylan and high end whiskey fans looks like
but in case you missed it
Dylan is releasing his own called Heavens Door (you keep on knocking but you can't get in)
https://vinepair.com/booze-news/bob-dylan-whiskey-heavens-door-spirits/
https://www.heavensdoor.com/
only $150 for the 10 yr reserve
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