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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on July 24, 2008, 11:50:00 am
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Hey Virgin Festival Decision Makers - Ditch Book the Band (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/)
Hollywood Undead, coming to a stage near you. Unfortunately.It's got to go. In theory, maybe it's not a terrible idea. You embrace the Internet, have a direct connection with the fans and give a chance to an up-and-coming act. But in practice you end up with a band like this year's winner, Hollywood Undead. Never heard of them? But with "their blend of hip-hop, pop, metal, and screamo, these masked L.A. natives attracted over 400,000 fans on MySpace, topping the site's music charts for weeks." How could you have missed them?
<img src="http://www.nationalnoisemedia.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/hollywood-undead-promo-pic.jpg" alt=" - " />
Hollywood Undead, coming to a stage near you. Unfortunately.
Who exactly benefits from this? Not the Virgin Festival, which now has to tarnish its pretty good name by giving stage time to this band. Oh yeah, this band that has never played a show before. Bob Dylan! Kanye West! Nine Inch Nails! Lil Wayne! And ... the debut performance by some tools from California who make Insane Clown Posse sound like the Beatles and won this contest because their "fans" have nothing better to do but sit on the computer and vote for them!
This is a danger when you rely on Internet voting. Internet voters are even more incompetent than those in Palm Beach County. It's how Corey Hart beat out David Wright, it's how "The Dark Knight" is hailed as the best movie ever (better than "Corky Romano"!!!) and it's how Hollywood Undead became the band that will kick off the second day of Virgin Festival. This is a band that exists only on the Internet, so of course they will be able to mobilize their Internet fans to vote for them. Bands have "devoted Internet followings" for a reason. Namely, the band is beyond terrible and it must harbor some sort of community to make itself relevant. Not that the alternatives were much better, mind you. When We Are Scientists is the best choice, you know you're in trouble.
Are any of the people who for voted Hollywood Undead actually going to shell out the big bucks to see the band in a few weekends? Of course not. That would be about six weeks of allowance for most of those kids. The festival will make no extra money on this. If people see Hollywood Undead as the only late addition to the lineup that will not make them want to buy a ticket if they were on the fence.
Only Hollywood Undead comes out ahead.
So next year, book an additional band from the start, give an extra half hour to a headliner, get the Oriole bird to do an interpretive dance to "Metal Machine Music." Just do anything but give the MySpace morons a chance to make everyone involved look foolish.
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yeah, seriously. The O's bird isn't a bad idea. Even better, get Kevin Millar and company to come out and do a live rendition of Orioles Magic
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Meet the kettle.
Isn't it those same internets that give a voice to the non-media bloggers like David Malitz as well?
Hey, I've got something to say that isn't really news but would allow me to get something off my chest - thank god for the internet.
What's the difference?
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these guys have never played a show before?
i've never heard of them, and i'll probably never listen to them. life goes on.
but yeah, thats super stupid.
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I pity this band, playing their first show ever to a crowd that probably already hates them. Not a situation I would want to be in.
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what an eff up. thanks to an army of teens in california, we get to deal with their flavor-of-the-month. sounds like this band's main talent is street-teamer management. to think that their first show is going to be behind a 50,000 watt PA. maybe they'll get heat stroke.
could someone please show up for their show and hold up a sign that reads "go back to the internet where you came from" ?
<img src="http://stuff.orly.ch/img/blog/dont_worry_sir_i_m_from_the_internet.jpg" alt=" - " />
threadjack: what sign would you hold up for this band?
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Who actually gets to festivals early enough to see the first band on the bill?
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Wow. Just....wow.
"Populated by 7 heavy metal/hardcore hooligans, the Hollywood Undead began as the brainchild of J-Dog and Tha Producer, two streetwise scene kids who frequented the Los Angeles club scene. The Hollywood skyline was their shelter. Drinking, thugging, and debauchery were their trademark."
http://www.purevolume.com/hollywoodundead (http://www.purevolume.com/hollywoodundead)
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Dylan went electric for this?
Welcome to Walmart
Drive-thru employees in training
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even worse....the lyrics....
"Hollywood Undead, get it through your head, download this song, put in your IPOD,
f$*k that put it on your homepage. you'll be the coolest kid on f*$kin myspace.
I'm at the scene club, told Jeffree star to beat it. cause I left her a comment
and saw that bitch delete . and thats f*$ked up because I sent it from my sidekick"
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who actually gets to festivals early enough to see the first band on the bill?
Well, I did for Vfest '06 to see Kasabian open the festival.
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I blame Tom
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So THIS is what you get for $580 million these days?
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"Dancing around like a bunch of faggots/Funny as fuck, just ask Bob Saget"
I thought those "scene" kids were supposed to be progressive now. I heard the first song on their MySpace page and I can't believe how annoying they are.
I'm kind of embarrassed that V-Fest is flying them out here, and paying them to play this show.
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Dude, my friend loves this band. And yes I fucking hate everything he listens to. For Halloween last year he made his Jason mask like one of those douches.
Ugh, that's horrific. And what's wrong with We Are Scientists!?
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maybe since there so many of them they'll come by greyhound, that way the driver can be instructed to ditch them somewhere in kansas...
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"with the way fashion (as in clothes/lifestyles) change, and how people alter their attitudes throughout their lives, why do people have tattoos?"
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here's hoping they'll do something to piss kanye off :D
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Originally posted by walkonby:
"with the way fashion (as in clothes/lifestyles) change, and how people alter their attitudes throughout their lives, why do people have tattoos?"
Because they like them, Richard Cohen.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by walkonby:
"with the way fashion (as in clothes/lifestyles) change, and how people alter their attitudes throughout their lives, why do people have tattoos?"
Because they like them, Richard Cohen. [/b]
actually, a lot of people think like him. even the bible says that tattoos are marks of the devil.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
here's hoping they'll do something to piss kanye off :D
thats awesome.
maybe we should have maskapalooza and have slipknot and insane clown posse play.
bands with masks suck almost as much as bands with saxaphones.
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but not as much as bands with accordions.
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i for one think this is going to be hilarious
they're astonishingly bad, no doubt, but who doesn't love watching a good ol' fashioned musical trainwreck?
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I saw F-them. I'd rather see Jimmie's Chicken Shack.
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
Ugh, that's horrific. And what's wrong with We Are Scientists!?
you would think they would have been a shoe in. I still think the masses picked the wrong band last year, by not voting for Cold War Kids.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
but not as much as bands with accordions.
watch what you say about accordions... i remember when a record store in detroit ran an ad making a disparaging remark about accordion music and it caused quite an uproar
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I think the promoters really just want to mock anyone who bought a ticket. Now you get to see these talentless shitheads along with Paramore and Taking Back Sunday! It's like a sub-par Warped Tour for half the day.
The Washington Post has it right (except We Are Scientists aren't half bad). The V-Fest made a really dumb mistake.
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Is it fair to say the V-Fest has one of the highest single day price tags of any American festival, for the least amount of bands and stages?
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i'm pretty sure it's the most expensive, i can't think of any other major festival that charges as much.
the worse value proposition (# bands/stages vs. price) is questionable. don't forget the dance tent, i'd consider that a third stage. VFest has a really solid line-up for folks into EDM.
friday @ outsidelands (http://www.sfoutsidelands.com/) has VFest beat in terms of a worse value, on a one-day basis.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who actually gets to festivals early enough to see the first band on the bill?
if it's not oppressively hot on day 1 of lolla, i plan to catch fuck buttons @ 12:15 - first act of the day on the at&t stage. on saturday i might catch the ting tings, also first band of the day on that stage.
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I'm disappointed that nobody has tipped off the band so that they can unleash the fury of the "Undead Army" on the Post's blog.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Is it fair to say the V-Fest has one of the highest single day price tags of any American festival, for the least amount of bands and stages?
I know I'm in the minority on this board but I'd rather pay more to see "bigger" bands on fewer stages. This year if I end up going it's for Foo, Kanyizle and NIN-if I saw those artists alone it would be $175+.
*ducks*
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Oh my lord. As bad as you think this band might be, it's worse. Go to their myspace page and listen.
It's so bad that I think I'm going to specifically get there early enough to witness the spectacle.
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After listening/researching these douchebags, I've decided that I actually do not pity them the least for having to pay their first show ever in front of a crowd that will most likely boo them mercilessly.
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Originally posted by killsaly:
Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
Ugh, that's horrific. And what's wrong with We Are Scientists!?
you would think they would have been a shoe in. I still think the masses picked the wrong band last year, by not voting for Cold War Kids. [/b]
I was also incredbily pissed the Kids didn't win last year, but I saw them at 930 and they were phenomenal so....
Here's to hoping HOllywood Undead plays the club! Woooo!
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
Wow. Just....wow.
"Populated by 7 heavy metal/hardcore hooligans, the Hollywood Undead began as the brainchild of J-Dog and Tha Producer, two streetwise scene kids who frequented the Los Angeles club scene. The Hollywood skyline was their shelter. Drinking, thugging, and debauchery were their trademark."
http://www.purevolume.com/hollywoodundead (http://www.purevolume.com/hollywoodundead)
Worth posting the whole blurb:
The Hollywood UndeadStraight from the ghettofabulous streets of Hollywood rises this up & coming 7 piece fusion of morbid Hip Hop, surrealistic Hardcore, and fashion conscious Metal, and not since Motley Crue has a Hollywood band generated the type of buzz and blatant admiration that has been created by this recent addition into the scene.
Populated by 7 heavy metal/hardcore hooligans, the Hollywood Undead began as the brainchild of J-Dog and Tha Producer, two streetwise scene kids who frequented the Los Angeles club scene. The Hollywood skyline was their shelter. Drinking, thugging, and debauchery were their trademark.
After 1 day of dropping their sound onto Myspace, their account exploded like TNT. The Hollywood Undead space grew in size in a matter of hoursstarting out with an audience of 10, and blowing up into one that included several thousand users just in their first day of entry into the space. Hundreds of comments from awestruck admirers. Thousands of adds per day on average. Tens of thousands of profile views. Close to 4000 DOWNLOADS PER DAY. Reaching number 12 on the myspace top bands chart, then number 8, then number 4, and finally after only 1 week taking on the number 1 spot, beating out some of the most famous bands in the world. Bands like Nine Inch Nails, Coldplay, System Of A Down and even their friends "From First To Last".
The band now consists of an entourage of Hollywood brats that have been selectively recruited into the gang/group on the basis of their mad skillz: J Dog, Da Kurlzzz, Charlie Scene, Tha Producer, Funny Man, The Server,
Donning bone-chilling masks so that their strapping good looks cannot take away from their musical artistry, The Hollywood Undead has burst onto the scene to show The Kids how it's really done
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
what an eff up. thanks to an army of teens in california, we get to deal with their flavor-of-the-month. sounds like this band's main talent is street-teamer management. to think that their first show is going to be behind a 50,000 watt PA. maybe they'll get heat stroke.
could someone please show up for their show and hold up a sign that reads "go back to the internet where you came from" ?
<img src="http://stuff.orly.ch/img/blog/dont_worry_sir_i_m_from_the_internet.jpg" alt=" - " />
threadjack: what sign would you hold up for this band?
You are probably short a zero on the PA size.
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the article is right and wrong.
they're right in the sense that it is a disgrace that hollywood undead is doing their first ever live performance on such a stacked bill. do these kids even know who chuck berry is?
but they're wrong by saying they need to ditch "book the band". what the Vfest promoters need to do is pick bands that would easily fit in at V-fest.
I remember seth saying, on this forum, in the v-fest thread, "I would never book limp bizkit".
well... whats the difference here?...
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Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
I'm kind of embarrassed that V-Fest is flying them out here, and paying them to play this show.
I was kind of wondering about this. I was wondering if maybe the voting was rigged, and hollywood undead was picked to win from the start... the catch for them was, they weren't going to get paid for the show.
v-fest promoters get an act for free, one that most people will probably forget, while hollywoodd undead plays to a big crowd (something i'm sure they'd love to do) and the fans who vote get to feel like they're really voting and being given something cool (even if their band doesn't win).
i'm probably wrong, but it really wouldn't surprise me that much if this was the case (given that aiden won last year as well). because seriously, WAS should have had it in the bag.
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When Hollywood Undead plays a sold-out five night stand at Merriweather in 2010, we will all understand the enigma that is Seth Hurwitz.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
When Hollywood Undead plays a sold-out five night stand at Merriweather in 2010, we will all understand the enigma that is Seth Hurwitz.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Oh. My. God. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF6HgpdaaCU)
It sounds like someone took a boy band and tried to make them "edgy" by giving them the Insane Clown Posse masks.
I went to their Myspace page. I feel like I need to go read the Wall Street Journal or something now.
I think this is a ticket selling strategy. I wasn't planning on the Virgin Fest but now I may have to reschedule my vacation just to see these tools get mercilessly booed. Brilliant Seth!
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Great Seth, just great!
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after 5 seconds of watching this . . . seth is brilliant. these guys are going to be fucking super huge. yeah, in a year or so, they'll be gone, but until then, watch the f out. they have everything in place, as if organized by the tip top. wow. truly wow. digusting but wow. backstreet boys for the whiggers. for as much as they have have been talked about in here - from nothing to the moon in virtual hours, says it all. i can hear the screaming, "i used to like my chemical romance" girls from here.
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Absolutely hysterical. Lollapalooza, here I come.
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it only gets worse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DLABW5tqGI)
seth, in a USA Today article (if i remember correctly) you stated that your kids were an influence in choosing bands and set times. please have a listen to the above video, and tell me your kids will be arriving at the festival only after these douchenozzles have left the stage. please?
these guys are arguably the worse thing to come crawling out of the internet ever. how did they even get short-listed for book the band? quality control fail!
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
how did they even get short-listed for book the band? quality control fail!
that is really I want to know.
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Originally posted by JonathanEH:
It's so bad that I think I'm going to specifically get there early enough to witness the spectacle.
Please dress up like them. Please.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
actually, a lot of people think like him. even the bible says that tattoos are marks of the devil.
where? version, book, and verse please.
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while it doesnt say "devil" it does mention tattoos....
Leviticus 19.28
??Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves,?
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what would make this even more comical is the rantings of a forumer who no longer trolls these parts...
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it's too bad that this version of "hollywood undead" isn't playing the festival as they have a bit of a Dead Milkmen vibe to them... and the comments from the fans for the TRU crappywood douchedead are hilarious and sad because it appears there is entire generation of illiterate kids out there
oh yeah NSFW much like sweetcell's vid link
I must be emo (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1367350407)
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
I was also incredbily pissed the Kids didn't win last year, but I saw them at 930 and they were phenomenal so....
[/QB][/QUOTE]I caught them at the club twice so far, and both times they were amazing. I really wanted to see them on a big stage though.
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Originally posted by eros:
Oh. My. God. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF6HgpdaaCU)
Read through a few pages of the comments below the video and weep for the future of our nation.
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Originally posted by lancha:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
how did they even get short-listed for book the band? quality control fail!
that is really I want to know. [/b]
however, it's somewhat understandable that they were picked for inclusion in the contest if you believe their myspace hype, and that none of the organizers bothered listening to them. that last part is the QC issue - just because they have online hype with california teens/fratboys-to-be doesn't mean they should be included in VFest's lineup.
but i'm starting to come around to the entertainment value these morons will bring. can we please resurrect the timeless tradition of throwing rotten tomatoes? please?
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OK I think I'm becoming part of the problem. I'm sending the link to the No.5 video to everyone I know and telling them about my new favorite band.
"Don't kiss me bitch you just threw up!"
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Well due to myspace hype we are now stuck with Tila Tequila AND these guys.
thanks again myspace, you really help advance our popular culture.
Unless they just go away, which could happen.
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These guys give street teamers a bad name, i've been doing that for 10 years and holy fuck i'd tell those guys to sell their noisemakers, because those sure as hell aren't instruments, and get a real job...
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I smell a new Puddle of Mudd.
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I couldn't find their Wiki page, but I found their Urban Dictionary page. This is priceless, and their street team is out of control. I didn't realize that they first "came onto the scene" in 2005 and it took them 3 years to put out a cd. Ugh.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hollywood+Undead (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hollywood+Undead)
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what...the...fuck\
that video....how did this band even get considered for the opening slot?? are you kidding me???
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Remember what Seth said. Should be better then Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo combined.
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After further reflection, there is no way this is legit.
This "band" has to be some sort of a Borat meets Andy Kaufman type of joke.
You heard it here first.
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I hope I can beat the rush of people to the stage and get a up close view.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
what would make this even more comical is the rantings of a forumer who no longer trolls these parts...
you honestly think he doesn't. i feel he reads here and posts somewhere else.
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ok, although i said i wasnt going to , i did finally go to the myspace page and listened to a couple tracks
from a musical standpoint. i have 3 words
Eminem
Part
Two
edit: they sound a lot like Linkin Park too.
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Originally posted by wml7:
Remember what Seth said. Should be better then Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo combined.
So the bar is set high then?? ;)
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ok so this whole band thing reminds me of that Halloween movie where they put on those masks and then the commercial came on and everyones heads turned to snakes.
i think thats whats happening here.
seth is in bed with Silver Shamrock.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
ok, although i said i wasnt going to , i did finally go to the myspace page and listened to a couple tracks
from a musical standpoint. i have 3 words
Eminem
Part
Two
edit: they sound a lot like Linkin Park too.
What about Flobots?
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VERY NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!
WATCH ANYWAY.
THIS IS THE SHIT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tnryUkd4Y&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tnryUkd4Y&feature=related)
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Originally posted by very sonick:
ok, although i said i wasnt going to , i did finally go to the myspace page and listened to a couple tracks
from a musical standpoint. i have 3 words
Eminem
Part
Two
edit: they sound a lot like Linkin Park too.
i think that the dude who does most of the actual singing of the choruses (as opposed to the rappers) sounds a lot like Weird Al. then again, maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me since hollywood undead are such a joke...
but seriously, he does sound like weird al to me.
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http://www.nj.com/business/prnewswire/index.ssf?/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=NJ&STORY=/www/story/07-23-2008/0004854190&EDATE=Jul+23,+2008 (http://www.nj.com/business/prnewswire/index.ssf?/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=NJ&STORY=/www/story/07-23-2008/0004854190&EDATE=Jul+23,+2008)
"Music has always been at the core of the Virgin Mobile USA brand and
for that reason, Book The Band is a natural extension of Virgin Mobile
Festival," said Ron Faris, Director of Brand Development & Partnerships,
Virgin Mobile USA. "As far as we're concerned, this year's contest was won
on the mobile phone, with Hollywood Undead ramping up a huge campaign to
get over 186,485 text votes. We at Virgin Mobile USA along with Kyocera
Wireless are thrilled to host their first live show at our Virgin Mobile
Festival."
"Book the Band is a brilliant extension of the next wave of music
discovery, and Virgin Mobile Festival has certainly found promising talent
in Hollywood Undead to open Day Two," said Sir Richard Branson, whose
legendary Virgin Festival heritage is the inspiration for the Virgin Mobile
Festival. "I'm curious to see how well they'll do going from MySpace to our
space!"
"We can't think of a better venue than the Virgin Mobile Festival to
play our first-ever live show," said J-Dog of Hollywood Undead. "To stand
in front of the same fans who will be there to see musical legends perform
is unreal. We'll do everything we can to make our first show something for
fans to remember."
Hollywood Undead beat out four other up-and-coming bands by receiving
an overwhelming 53% (285,000 votes) of the more than 540,000 votes placed
online and via text between June 16 through July 21. Hollywood Undead will
release their highly anticipated debut album, "Swan Songs" (via A&M/Octone)
on August 26, 2008. Tampa-based Automatic Loveletter came in second place
with more than 161,000 votes. New Jersey's The Parlor Mob, Brooklyn's We
Are Scientists, and New York's The Virgins came in third, fourth and fifth,
respectively.
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do i smell damage control?
and whats the over/under on them lip synching their performance given they all wear masks..
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lol at We Are Scientists. They couldn't even place #2 behind these cock-acceptors.
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I thought We Are Scientits are suppose to be pretty big, very surprised they didn't win.
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Originally posted by wml7:
I thought We Are Scientits are suppose to be pretty big, very surprised they didn't win.
they have superior music, but inferior street-teaming skillz
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Originally posted by wml7:
Remember what Seth said. Should be better then Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo combined.
he also said he would never book limp bizkit.
he came pretty close though.
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
we can't think of a better venue than the Virgin Mobile Festival to play our first-ever live show," said J-Dog of Hollywood Undead.
these people have bad thinking skills then.
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Originally posted by lancha:
Originally posted by Arthwys:
we can't think of a better venue than the Virgin Mobile Festival to play our first-ever live show," said J-Dog of Hollywood Undead.
these people have bad thinking skills then. [/b]
Shouldn't it be J-DAWG? Fucking amateur wiggers.
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
http://www.nj.com/business/prnewswire/index.ssf?/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=NJ&STORY=/www/story/07-23-2008/0004854190&EDATE=Jul+23,+2008 (http://www.nj.com/business/prnewswire/index.ssf?/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=NJ&STORY=/www/story/07-23-2008/0004854190&EDATE=Jul+23,+2008)
"Music has always been at the core of the Virgin Mobile USA brand and
for that reason, Book The Band is a natural extension of Virgin Mobile
Festival," said Ron Faris, Director of Brand Development & Partnerships,
Virgin Mobile USA. "As far as we're concerned, this year's contest was won
on the mobile phone, with Hollywood Undead ramping up a huge campaign to
get over 186,485 text votes. We at Virgin Mobile USA along with Kyocera
Wireless are thrilled to host their first live show at our Virgin Mobile
Festival."
"Book the Band is a brilliant extension of the next wave of music
discovery, and Virgin Mobile Festival has certainly found promising talent
in Hollywood Undead to open Day Two," said Sir Richard Branson, whose
legendary Virgin Festival heritage is the inspiration for the Virgin Mobile
Festival. "I'm curious to see how well they'll do going from MySpace to our
space!"
"We can't think of a better venue than the Virgin Mobile Festival to
play our first-ever live show," said J-Dog of Hollywood Undead. "To stand
in front of the same fans who will be there to see musical legends perform
is unreal. We'll do everything we can to make our first show something for
fans to remember."
Hollywood Undead beat out four other up-and-coming bands by receiving
an overwhelming 53% (285,000 votes) of the more than 540,000 votes placed
online and via text between June 16 through July 21. Hollywood Undead will
release their highly anticipated debut album, "Swan Songs" (via A&M/Octone)
on August 26, 2008. Tampa-based Automatic Loveletter came in second place
with more than 161,000 votes. New Jersey's The Parlor Mob, Brooklyn's We
Are Scientists, and New York's The Virgins came in third, fourth and fifth,
respectively.
Got me a story didn't it
Posted by: Seth Hurwitz | July 25, 2008 1:03 PM
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/07/hey_virgin_festival_decision_m.html (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/07/hey_virgin_festival_decision_m.html)
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Originally posted by walkonby:
VERY NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!
WATCH ANYWAY.
THIS IS THE SHIT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tnryUkd4Y&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tnryUkd4Y&feature=related)
Finally, a song with more references to, um, putting it where it doesn't belong than Nick Cave's version of Stagger Lee!
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Got me a story didn't it
Posted by: Seth Hurwitz | July 25, 2008 1:03 PM
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/07/hey_virgin_festival_decision_m.html (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/07/hey_virgin_festival_decision_m.html)
UPDATE FOR DECISION-MAKERS: there actually is such a thing as bad publicity.
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That was the exact quote I was about to post after listening to that song...you beat me to it.
Originally posted by JonathanEH:
"Don't kiss me bitch you just threw up!"
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I could believe this
Originally posted by eros:
After further reflection, there is no way this is legit.
This "band" has to be some sort of a Borat meets Andy Kaufman type of joke.
You heard it here first.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
while it doesnt say "devil" it does mention tattoos....
Leviticus 19.28
??Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves,?
this is not directed at sonick. this is one of my peeves. if you're going to do something like quote the bible to make a point, at least do it right. if someone had said that the bible says "god hates gays," i'm sure that mr. chip on his shoulder would've freaked out. this is my minor freak out.
1. the word tattoo is not likely an accurate translation. it's probably more like: "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." KJV. LEV 19:28.
a heathen custom of the time was to make deep cuts into the flesh in a time of mourning, to honor the dead. there was also a common practice inking or painting (much like henna) or using hot irons to create floral and other designs that were often used to honor "false idols." this is not the same thing as tattooing.
B. there is no mention of the devil whatsoever.
c. the verse before this one says that you can't cut your hair or trim your beard in a specific manner, and the one after says that you shouldn't let your daughter be a whore, lest the land fall to whoredom and wickedness. there are also rules about what you can eat, and when, and how to make a proper sacrifice, and what to wear.
these laws were designed to keep people from taking on the religious customs of the surrounding groups. even if it does mean don't get tattooed, which is debatable, it means don't get tattooed in the religious context of the surrounding tribes. just like it doesn't mean you can't cut your hair or your beard, but rather that you shouldn't cut your hair in the specific manner that the priests of the surrounding tribes did.
IV. leviticus is the old laws. it's wiped out by the new testament, if you believe such things.
i could go on, but it's late.
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Maybe it's really the long-awaited Fugazi reunion.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Maybe it's really the long-awaited Fugazi reunion.
That would be awesome. Or if they all got up on stage, did a bunch of ninja poses and moves, set off some explosives, gave a gagged and masked woman a gang-spanking, and then took off their masks. Hey, it's Belle & Sebastian!
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I don't think Hollywood Undead is anywhere close to being the worst band playing this festival. That line-up is pretty shitty.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by very sonick:
while it doesnt say "devil" it does mention tattoos....
Leviticus 19.28
??Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves,?
this is not directed at sonick. this is one of my peeves. if you're going to do something like quote the bible to make a point, at least do it right. if someone had said that the bible says "god hates gays," i'm sure that mr. chip on his shoulder would've freaked out. this is my minor freak out.
1. the word tattoo is not likely an accurate translation. it's probably more like: "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." KJV. LEV 19:28.
a heathen custom of the time was to make deep cuts into the flesh in a time of mourning, to honor the dead. there was also a common practice inking or painting (much like henna) or using hot irons to create floral and other designs that were often used to honor "false idols." this is not the same thing as tattooing.
B. there is no mention of the devil whatsoever.
c. the verse before this one says that you can't cut your hair or trim your beard in a specific manner, and the one after says that you shouldn't let your daughter be a whore, lest the land fall to whoredom and wickedness. there are also rules about what you can eat, and when, and how to make a proper sacrifice, and what to wear.
these laws were designed to keep people from taking on the religious customs of the surrounding groups. even if it does mean don't get tattooed, which is debatable, it means don't get tattooed in the religious context of the surrounding tribes. just like it doesn't mean you can't cut your hair or your beard, but rather that you shouldn't cut your hair in the specific manner that the priests of the surrounding tribes did.
IV. leviticus is the old laws. it's wiped out by the new testament, if you believe such things.
i could go on, but it's late. [/b]
the bible is the king of interpretation; that's why it was written. men who think god talk through them like to confuse. i mentioned the devil, because i like to say the devil. he's such a good reference point, and is used to being called out on the spot. if it is against god (like stated in the bible), it is for the devil (that's what false idols represent). chip on my shoulder? from actions of the past? i'm angry from things of the future, more than likely. and god does hate gays. they are so gosh darn perky, he could just screech. don't you read the news or attend funerals of fallen soldiers? the "god hate fags" church will protest the club if you don't believe. i don't care if YOU, mr. covered in tattoos, do whatever you like to your body. you could tattoo yourself on yourself, then re-tattoo that new person which you have become, for all i care. i was just curious to the logic why people do it. i've always wondered how much of it is "i really like it and the way it looks," and how much of it is, "i want someone else besides myself to look at me." like goth kids, who get all pissed off when you do look at them. no law replaces old laws from the bible, when all laws from the bible are false to begin with . . . for i am one with the lord without it and the religion (created by the devil (he's smiling now) that came from it.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by very sonick:
while it doesnt say "devil" it does mention tattoos....
Leviticus 19.28
??Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves,?
this is not directed at sonick. this is one of my peeves. if you're going to do something like quote the bible to make a point, at least do it right. [/b]
good post. :) and just to clarify my post, i only posted that passage because i have heard it argued before. I have tattoos, my wife has tattoos and mostly everyone i know does so i am certainly not against them.
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Originally posted by earlx:
I don't think Hollywood Undead is anywhere close to being the worst band playing this festival. That line-up is pretty shitty.
really? who gets your vote for worse act on the bill?
i have no love for plenty of the bands (paramore, taking back sundays, etc) - but none of them blow as hard as hollywood undead. non.
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Seriously, their whole fucking output is offensive and horrible. Put them out of their misery.
Faggot this, nigga that, my dick is like this...
I want to vomit. It's fucking disgusting, and I damn sure want to ask what it is about them that got them voted first in that competition.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
a lot
so what you're saying is that the bible doesn't say that tattoos are the mark of the devil. thanks. that's what i thought.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by earlx:
I don't think Hollywood Undead is anywhere close to being the worst band playing this festival. That line-up is pretty shitty.
really? who gets your vote for worse act on the bill?
i have no love for plenty of the bands (paramore, taking back sundays, etc) - but none of them blow as hard as hollywood undead. non. [/b]
Jack Johnson. He plays music for people who secretly hate music. Other terrible acts (in addition to those you mentioned) include: Stone Temple Pilots, The Offspring, Nine Inch Nails, Kanye West, Shudder To Think (for having the audacity to call themselves STT even though Chris Matthews, Mike Russell and Stuart Hill will not be playing) and the insufferable Moby. Really, the only bands playing at this festival that I'd wanna see are The Stooges and The Black Keys.
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the hate is strong with this one.
bring him to me.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by walkonby:
a lot
so what you're saying is that the bible doesn't say that tattoos are the mark of the devil. thanks. that's what i thought. [/b]
yes, you are right. where as i'm sure the devil would love to take the credit for tattoos, he cannot. let me go ask him about earlobe disfigurement and see what he has to say about that. ;)
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
the hate is strong with this one.
bring him to me.
actually, besides nin and moby, the truth is very strong with this one. if he would have mentioned dylan, though, then i would have called out the devil.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
the hate is strong with this one.
bring him to me.
actually, besides nin and moby, the truth is very strong with this one. if he would have mentioned dylan, though, then i would have called out the devil. [/b]
actually, i'd definitely lump moby and nin in with the worst... and i've seen both before.
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Originally posted by earlx:
Jack Johnson. He plays music for people who secretly hate music.
Really, the only bands playing at this festival that I'd wanna see are The Stooges and The Black Keys.
I think you're a person who secretly hates festivals.
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Originally posted by earlx:
Jack Johnson. He plays music for people who secretly hate music.
Really, the only bands playing at this festival that I'd wanna see are The Stooges and The Black Keys.
I think you're a person who secretly hates festivals. [/b]
Secretly?
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Why is this such a big deal? One crap band out of a pretty exciting line up.
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I'll put it short and sweet. this band sucks donkey balls.
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Originally posted by econo:
Why is this such a big deal? One crap band out of a pretty exciting line up.
*insert Lamb of God diss*
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Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
I'll put it short and sweet. this band sucks donkey balls.
*insert Lamb of God diss*
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Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
I'll put it short and sweet. this band sucks donkey balls.
*insert Lamb of God diss* [/b]
*insert your moms mouth* :eek:
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Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
I'll put it short and sweet. this band sucks donkey balls.
*insert Lamb of God diss* [/b]
*insert your moms mouth* :eek: [/b]
that made no sense.
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I lived in the same dorm, same floor, just a few doors down, as the singer of Lamb of God in Richmond in 89/90. He went by the name Shark then, and his brother was named Eagle.
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Originally posted by chaz:
I lived in the same dorm, same floor, just a few doors down, as the singer of Lamb of God in Richmond in 89/90. He went by the name Shark then, and his brother was named Eagle.
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hjk-4TAFy_hCJM:http://www.whatthefolk.net/02images/eaglevshark_poster_final.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
*insert your moms mouth* :o
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by Lambofgodfan:
I'll put it short and sweet. this band sucks donkey balls.
*insert Lamb of God diss* [/b]
*insert your moms mouth* :eek: [/b]
that made no sense. [/b]
Which is why it was so rad
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moved... wrong thread.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
getting back to announcing just-announced shows... :roll:
Shouldn't you get back to that in the Just Announced thread?
And Cheech still has all that Nash Bridges money to fall back on.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
getting back to announcing just-announced shows... :roll:
duuuuuuuuuuuude:
Cheech & Chong
Fri September 12 Tower Theatre, Philadelphia, PA
Sat September 13 Warner Theatre, Washington, DC
(weed has gotten expensive, doncha know, enough to get them to reunite for a "comedy" tour)
TRICKY
Friday Sept 5th
Trocadero Theatre, Philadelphia, PA
(maybe a DC date in tonight's e-mail blast? please?!?)
You stoner! You're in the wrong thread! BAD BOARDING
And 'Reply with Quote' preserves yet another FAIL for all posterity.
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thanks, buddy.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by chaz:
I lived in the same dorm, same floor, just a few doors down, as the singer of Lamb of God in Richmond in 89/90. He went by the name Shark then, and his brother was named Eagle.
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hjk-4TAFy_hCJM:http://www.whatthefolk.net/02images/eaglevshark_poster_final.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
That is so f'ing funny. I'm not kidding...his name was Shark and when his little brother came to visit it was "This is my brother Eagle".
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Who actually gets to festivals early enough to see the first band on the bill?
Well, I did for Vfest '06 to see Kasabian open the festival. [/b]
Save your money and not go.This line-up sux ass!The only thing this festival has going for it is THE BLACK KEYS & BLACK REBEL MOTORCYCLE CLUB!Very over-priced waste of time.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
bands with masks suck almost as much as bands with saxaphones.
Did you just dis Fishbone??? At this point I have to murder your sorry ass.
SAXOPHONE!! dipshit!
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
thanks, buddy.
Back atcha big shooter
Comets on Fire use saxophones and it RULES
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
thanks, buddy.
Back atcha big shooter
Comets on Fire use saxophones and it RULES [/b]
The Stooges will have sax in thier set...the same guy who played on Funhouse.
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
thanks, buddy.
Back atcha big shooter
Comets on Fire use saxophones and it RULES [/b]
The Stooges will have sax in thier set...the same guy who played on Funhouse. [/b]
Best use of sax ever = Blurt.