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Title: Tom Waits
Post by: ggw on December 06, 2006, 05:35:00 pm
Waits is one of those artists I never got around to getting in to.  So give me some advice -- where do I start?  What do I avoid?
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: thirsty moore on December 06, 2006, 05:38:00 pm
For a complete album, check out Rain Dogs.
 
 For a compilation, check out Used Songs 1973-1980.
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Waits is one of those artists I never got around to getting in to.  So give me some advice -- where do I start?  What do I avoid?
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Relaxer on December 06, 2006, 05:41:00 pm
I'd start with his Island records from the 80s. Swordfishtrombones is my favorite of the bunch, but Rain Dogs is usually seen as the classic. Franks Wild Years is also good, and Big Time is a live album drawing from all three of these.
 
 Of his 90s stuff, Mule Variations and Bone Machine are solid.
 
 Of his 70s records, The Heart of Saturday Night is a nice record, but it's when he was more of a Bukowski-ish singer-songwriter, so sounds nothing like the clanky gutteral found-sounds music he's making now.
 
 Beyond one track, I haven't heard the new 3CD set but I've heard it's very tough to get into.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Vas Deferens on December 06, 2006, 05:41:00 pm
swordfishtrombones and Bone Machine are the best albums to start...
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: RatBastard on December 06, 2006, 05:41:00 pm
Nighthawks at the Diner
 Franks Wild Years
 Swordfish Trombone
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: thirsty moore on December 06, 2006, 05:42:00 pm
I always thought swordfishtrombones was a Rain Dogs lite.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: thirsty moore on December 06, 2006, 05:44:00 pm
swordfishtrombones - 1983
 
 Rain Dogs - 1985
 
 What the hell do I know.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: twangirl on December 06, 2006, 06:02:00 pm
Some of my favorite songs of his are on Small Change, from 1976.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: mbg73 on December 06, 2006, 06:04:00 pm
There's a latter era Waits compilation called "Beautiful Maladies" that's pretty good.  It came out a few years ago.  The new box set is awesome.  I haven't really had time to digest the whole thing, but it's a lot more consistent than I expected.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: amnesiac on December 06, 2006, 06:06:00 pm
I think I'm gonna attempt the daunting task of going through all his albums in order. All I have right now is Closing Time. I got a long ways to go...
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: palahniukkubrick on December 06, 2006, 07:03:00 pm
Relaxer is on track, though to distill it further: for 70s stuff get Heart of Saturday Night, 80s stuff Rain Dogs, and 90s Mule Variations. All vastly different, all interesting in their own right.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: melmoth on December 06, 2006, 07:08:00 pm
The new CD is great.  Mule Variation, Rain Dogs, Small Change, Bone Machine.  Also recommended is the VH1 storytellers Bootleg.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: BookerT on December 06, 2006, 07:16:00 pm
i haven't read magnet in a while but i was reading it a few years ago, and in the column that thought it was mini-chunklet, the guy was talking about tom waits the quote was something along the lines of:
 
 "there are two types of people in this world -- those who absolutely love tom waits and those who 'appreciate what he does.'"
 
 i thought that one went into the "funny cuz it's true" category, especially because i have long been one of those people who doesn't really like him but, y'know, appreciated what he did. i thought he was excellent in "down by law."
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 06, 2006, 09:54:00 pm
I prefer his 70's stuff. After that, too grating.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: pela123 on December 07, 2006, 01:27:00 am
i second the small change recommendation, as well as beautiful maladies as a good compilation.  of his new stuff I really like Alice
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Darth Ed on December 07, 2006, 01:34:00 am
Is he going to tour anytime soon?
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: pela123 on December 07, 2006, 01:52:00 am
he did a brief tour over the summer (only about 6 cities), but maybe he'll  be out again to promote orphans--though I don't think he really gives a shit about promoting his work
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: vassego on December 07, 2006, 10:11:00 am
Did anyone catch him on The Daily Show last week?  He was pretty funny.  He just kept saying, "Oh wow," when Jon Stewart complimented him.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: grotty on December 07, 2006, 11:06:00 am
Closing Time is excellent ('73)
 
 I'd start there.
 
 None of the recent records would make sense to me if I didn't have it/know it.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Relaxer on December 07, 2006, 11:09:00 am
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Originally posted by vassego:
  Did anyone catch him on The Daily Show last week?  He was pretty funny.  He just kept saying, "Oh wow," when Jon Stewart complimented him.
He is funny. He was one of the better guests on Fishing With John, which is a classic show.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 07, 2006, 11:22:00 am
I'd agree with Closing Time. I also have a cassette copy of Anthology of Tom Waits from about 20 years ago which is a very good intro of his early stuff, but I don't even know if that ever came out on cd.
 
 
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Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
  Closing Time is excellent ('73)
 
 I'd start there.
 
 None of the recent records would make sense to me if I didn't have it/know it.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: grotty on December 07, 2006, 12:01:00 pm
at least download the second track on Orphans:
 
 Low Down
 
 one of the year's best tunes. nothing difficult about it:  \nn/
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: pela123 on December 07, 2006, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
   
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Originally posted by vassego:
  Did anyone catch him on The Daily Show last week?  He was pretty funny.  He just kept saying, "Oh wow," when Jon Stewart complimented him.
He is funny. He was one of the better guests on Fishing With John, which is a classic show. [/b]
love that episode--especially when he decides it would be wise to put the one fish he caught in his pants.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: flawd101 on December 08, 2006, 04:11:00 am
wow, i saw him on the daily show and he was horrible...he can't sing for shit.
 i'm actually being serious for once.
 
 im in pure shock that people like that stuff...i thought better of all of you.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: boweswana on December 08, 2006, 09:47:00 am
The Early Years Vol I and II are really good, although really different than what you normally think of when you think of Tom Waits.  Really stripped down, just piano and/or acoustic guitar.
 
 I love Heart of Saturday Night, Bone Machine, lots of it.  Never did get too into Swordfish Trombones despite the great album title.
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2006, 07:45:00 pm
Tom Waits is probably THE best American songwriter...I can understand his actual singing is an aquired taste but his lyrics are amazing. I like his albums anytime, but really get into them when chilling and having a drinkie-poo or 9!
 
 BTW...has anyone seen the movie The Polar Express? Is it just me or was that hobo ghost character based on Tom Waits? I checked the cast and evidently Tom Hanks did the voice but the character looked and sounded like Tom Waits. (no, I wasn't drinking at the time)
 
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