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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: HoyaSaxa03 on April 18, 2005, 12:18:00 pm
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Apr 17, 8:46 PM (ET)
HOUSTON (AP) - With an assault weapon in each hand, rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent urged National Rifle Association members to be "hardcore, radical extremists demanding the right to self defense."
Speaking at the NRA's annual convention Saturday, Nugent said each NRA member should try to enroll 10 new members over the next year and associate only with other members.
"Let's next year sit here and say, 'Holy smokes, the NRA has 40 million members now,'" he said. "No one is allowed at our barbecues unless they are an NRA member. Do that in your life."
Nugent sang and played a guitar painted with red and white stripes for the crowd at Houston's downtown convention center.
He drew the most cheers when he told gun owners they should never give up their right to bear arms and should use their guns to protect themselves if needed.
"Remember the Alamo! Shoot 'em!" he screamed to applause. "To show you how radical I am, I want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em."
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
[bI want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em." [/b]
I'd LOVE to know if he's pro-life.
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speaking of hypocrisy, i love how the NRA claims that their first and foremost goal is "protecting the constitution" (then the second amendment), and of course these are the same people who rip into the ACLU on a constant basis
by the way, what's the attack against the ACLU from these right-wingers who claim to be constitution lovers? do they say the ACLU is misinterpreting the first amendment, or are they just not concerned at all with blatant hypocrisy (ala, anti-abortion, pro-death)?
i used to be a gun control activist (interned at handgun control, inc, etc), until i sobered up and realized what a futile cause it is ... NRA / gun industry just has too much $$$ and too many voters who make it a #1 issue and a litmus test for candidates ... 80%+ people in this country support common sense gun control, but barely any of them would make it a litmus test, hardly any make it their #1 issue, and even less donate $$$ to the cause.
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if ted wants to live by the way of the gun like the good olde days, he'd better be willing to give up all his modern day comforts, including very importantally modern medicine. plop ted in the middle of deadwood and i bet he'd wouldn't last a week, pig food in no time with a yap like that.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
if ted wants to live by the way of the gun like the good olde days, he'd better be willing to give up all his modern day comforts, including very importantally modern medicine. plop ted in the middle of deadwood and i bet he'd wouldn't last a week, pig food in no time with a yap like that.
ted's a completel nut, but he's actually a pretty consistent throw-back, i saw something on VH1 of MTV about him ... everything he eats he kills himself, lives out in the woods of michigan, etc
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
lives out in the woods of michigan, etc
As a displacednative Detroiter I wonder why all of the great state of Michigan's contributions to music have to be such weirdos; the Nuge, Alice Cooper, Jack White, Kid Rock, etc.
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must be something in lake huron.... Iggy, MC5, Patti Smith George Clinton lived there for several years,
i escaped from detroit in 97
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i escaped from detroit in 97
What part?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
if ted wants to live by the way of the gun like the good olde days, he'd better be willing to give up all his modern day comforts, including very importantally modern medicine. plop ted in the middle of deadwood and i bet he'd wouldn't last a week, pig food in no time with a yap like that.
ted's a completel nut, but he's actually a pretty consistent throw-back, i saw something on VH1 of MTV about him ... everything he eats he kills himself, lives out in the woods of michigan, etc [/b]
but how far of a throw back is he willing to be... no ac, suv, high tech bow, marshall amp,
if people want to live by the rules of the wild west then they had better be willing to take the the good, the bad and the ugly of a much different time. and i suspect they wouldn't last a week...
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
lives out in the woods of michigan, etc
As a displacednative Detroiter I wonder why all of the great state of Michigan's contributions to music have to be such weirdos; the Nuge, Alice Cooper, Jack White, Kid Rock, etc. [/b]
Well, Baltimore gave us Frank Zappa, Philip Glass and David Byrne. And, of course, John Waters.
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i escaped from detroit in 97
What part? [/b]
East Side Detroit as a kid, HS in Grosse Pointe, and Harper Woods before moving...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
East Side Detroit as a kid, HS in Grosse Pointe, and Harper Woods before moving...
That's cool. I'm from Westland and still have alot of family in Garden City and Dearborn, but my first GF was from Grosse Pointe.
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I have to assume sometime during his musical heyday that he shagged some underage fans. Wouldn't that make him a child molester? Maybe he should just kill himself.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Well, Baltimore gave us Frank Zappa, Philip Glass and David Byrne. And, of course, John Waters.
don't forget barry levinson and edward norton.
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
I have to assume sometime during his musical heyday that he shagged some underage fans. Wouldn't that make him a child molester? Maybe he should just kill himself.
hah, great point ... he's a sex fiend ... but he also claims to never drink or do drugs (the things you learn on VH1)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
edward norton.
Edward Norton is from either Silver Spring or Rockville, isn't he?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
"Remember the Alamo! Shoot 'em!" he screamed to applause. "To show you how radical I am, I want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em."
Riddle me this:
If Ted is so gosh-darned kill crazy, where was he back in 1966-70 when his fellow Michigan natives, including my dad, were off in Viet Nam getting their asses shot off in the name of "stopping the spread of godless communism"? They sure could have used an extra gun then.
Ted's like uncle Dick Cheney, just another chicken hawk.
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Didn't Nugent blow his own brains out in a hunting accident? Or was that just a wonderful dream I had.......
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Originally posted by palahniukkubrick:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
edward norton.
Edward Norton is from either Silver Spring or Rockville, isn't he? [/b]
technically, columbia, but he claims baltimore.
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Originally posted by palahniukkubrick:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
edward norton.
Edward Norton is from either Silver Spring or Rockville, isn't he? [/b]
Edward Norton is a product of Columbia, Maryland. Went to school in the public school systems there. Somewhere at my parents house I have pictures from elementary school with him in my class. He may use Baltimore now, but he was not there then.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
if ted wants to live by the way of the gun like the good olde days, he'd better be willing to give up all his modern day comforts, including very importantally modern medicine.
Or he could just move to Florida (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=UR5BDL0XDXEYECRBAEKSFEY?type=domesticNews&storyID=8092673)...
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i guess this was the best person the NRA could get to speak...damn, do they need Heston.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Well, Baltimore gave us Frank Zappa, Philip Glass and David Byrne. And, of course, John Waters.
don't forget barry levinson and edward norton. [/b]
...or Bruce Springsteens wife and kids!!! ;)
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John Doe (from X) is from Baltimore too.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
John Doe (from X) is from Baltimore too.
...He is? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0230335/)
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Wow. That sure is a lot of violent bluster from Teddy. And so out of character... I always thought he was a draft-dodging pussy.
http://www.nhgazette.com/articles/CH_nugent_ted.html (http://www.nhgazette.com/articles/CH_nugent_ted.html)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Originally posted by bunnyman:
John Doe (from X) is from Baltimore too.
...He is? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0230335/) [/b]
For some reason I think he too grew up in Columbia. I know that the guy from the Cars who also played with Johnathan Richmond was a Columbia boy.
http://www.urbanitebaltimore.com/februaryMagazine/facts.html (http://www.urbanitebaltimore.com/februaryMagazine/facts.html)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Riddle me this:
If Ted is so gosh-darned kill crazy, where was he back in 1966-70 when his fellow Michigan natives, including my dad, were off in Viet Nam getting their asses shot off in the name of "stopping the spread of godless communism"? They sure could have used an extra gun then.
Making the only decent records of his career with the Amboy Dukes.