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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on December 14, 2006, 10:57:00 am
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the link is here (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-md.baserunner14dec14,0,5135121.story?coll=bal-home-headlines)
O's worker is caught stealing
Man admits taking stored memorabilia from Camden Yards to sell on Internet
Originally published December 14, 2006
The lengthy list of pilfered items from storage rooms at Camden Yards reads like an inventory from a baseball memorabilia collector's garage:
A Melvin Mora bobblehead doll: $3. Six Orioles warm-up jackets: $360. Numerous Orioles autograph cards: $1,000.
Baltimore police officers assigned to investigate the crime had trouble listing values for most of the stolen merchandise.
They wrote "value unknown" for the 1969 Giants media guide, for 50 Brian Roberts bookmarks, for 26 used lineup cards and a dugout's worth other items, including two bases used in one of the last games of Cal Ripken Jr.'s final season in 2001.
But the detective investigating the case decided that at least one item - a pass that allowed access to parts of the stadium, including its warehouse - was too valuable to quantify. At the end of the list of an official police report filed in court, he wrote: "Orioles employee ID. PRICELESS."
At $7.25 an hour, Jeremy B. Fefel was paid to run errands at the ballpark during games last season. The former employee, whose job title was "baserunner," also had a budding side business: filching Orioles' memorabilia and auctioning the items on eBay.
Fefel, 23, pleaded guilty this week to stealing hundreds of items, some as trivial as refrigerator magnets that are given away. The haul included 1960s-era media guides, team jerseys, beach towels, floppy hats and fleece jackets.
Some of the items were sold online before the Orioles had a chance to offer them to their fans. Other collectibles were intended to be sold by the team at charity auctions. An Orioles spokesman said he couldn't remember the last time the team had been victimized by such a scheme.
"I don't think we've ever been aware of anything like this," said spokesman Bill Stetka. Referring to the growing online market for sports collectibles, he said, "Of course, we're in a new day and age."
On Tuesday, a Circuit Court judge ordered Fefel to pay $5,000 in restitution to the team and do 50 hours of community service by his sentencing date, which is scheduled for April 3, the day after the Orioles open their season against the Twins in Minnesota. At that point, he would be given probation before judgment and placed on three years of unsupervised probation.
"Obviously, it was a stupid mistake," Fefel said yesterday in a telephone interview, adding that he is to perform his community service with the city's Department of Public Works in a solid waste and recycling facility.
"I've been a lifelong Orioles fan. ... I took advantage of the whole situation," he said. "I'd like to send my deepest apologies to the whole Orioles organization. It was a stupid decision, and I let it get the best of me. I could never apologize enough for it."
Stetka said the organization was disappointed that one of its employees had stolen from it.
"You hire people and you entrust them, you put them in a position where they can learn, and hopefully they want to go somewhere in the sports business," Stetka said. "And then to have someone basically stealing things out from under you - some of the things we lost are going to be very difficult to replace."
A sports memorabilia expert said the growth of online auction sites has helped broaden the market for collectibles. Even obscure or insignificant items that might have never been sold at tag sales or through classified ads are finding eager buyers on the Internet, he said.
"In the old days, the teams didn't really have to worry so much because the stuff wasn't worth anything," said Michael Heffner, president of Lelands, one of the oldest sports memorabilia auction houses in the country, which is based on Long Island, N.Y. "Now there's a tremendous market for it. Everything has a value to someone. There's nothing that's worthless. And with the Internet, it's not hard to find that buyer."
Fefel apparently found buyers for many of the items he took from Camden Yards.
Detective Lt. Jon Foster said his officers worked closely with eBay officials to determine who was behind the online identity of "vedderwood," which Fefel had created to sell on eBay. He also said it was likely that the officer, Jonathan Glazerman, mistakenly classified Fefel's employee ID as "priceless," and instead probably should have described it as having no value because of the actual worth of the material.
The ID's true value lay in its user's ability to traverse much of Camden Yards. Stetka said full- and part-time employees have varying degrees of access to different parts of the stadium, office and warehouses.
Fefel, who said he met Ripken in a movie theater once, said he has been a baseball fan and memorabilia collector for much of his life and started buying and selling baseball cards on the Web site while in high school. He continued trading on eBay through his college years at Salisbury University until he graduated in December 2005 with a degree in marketing.
Upon returning home to Harford County, Fefel said, he was having trouble finding work until he attended a job fair at Towson University last winter. There, he met people from the Orioles organization who sold him on the idea of coming to work for them for the season.
Fefel started in April and worked through mid-September, when police arrested him.
The list of stolen items runs for more than two pages in charging documents filed by police investigators.
Many of the items taken were Orioles media guides from the 1960s and 1970s. There also were media guides for other baseball teams, including the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, the former Kansas City Athletics and the former Washington Senators.
Stetka, the team spokesman, said the guides might not have had a high value for collectors but the team kept them archived for history's sake.
Fefel said he sold many of the guides on eBay for $5 or $10.
Other items that were swiped included a baseball bat used by Brian Roberts . So were 17 used Orioles game jerseys, three Sammy Sosa bobblehead dolls, each worth $3, two game jackets, worth $60 each, two fleece shirts, worth $45 each, and a framed picture of Orioles Opening Day in 1992 with an accompanying game ticket worth $100.
According to charging documents, Marco Gentile, an Oriole employee, was searching eBay when he came across several items that he thought didn't belong on the Web site. The items were being sold by a person who had registered the online identity "vedderwood" on the site. Gentile notified his supervisors, who called city police.
One tip-off came with the Brian Roberts bobblehead doll. The figure hadn't been made available to the public when it began appearing on eBay, the documents state. Orioles' team employees also told police that many of the items that were appearing on the auction site came from locations at Camden Yards to which only employees had access.
All other items were stored in a separate storage room, for which there were three keys. One of the keys was kept in the communications room, but that key disappeared, the documents said.
Another Orioles official, Lisa Tolson, told police that Fefel was authorized to remove items from storage during baseball games to give to ticket holders or to replenish stocks.
On Sept. 19, city police searched Fefel's apartment in Bel Air, where they found dozens of stolen items, charging documents state.
The recovered stolen goods were brought to the Southern District police station, where Orioles employees picked them up, the charging documents state.
"He's a nice young man who made a stupid mistake," said Paul M. Polansky, Fefel's defense attorney. "He's very remorseful. He admitted his sins and made restitution, and wants to put this behind him."
Fefel said many of the items that police took during the search had not been stolen but were part of his personal collection and that he hopes to get them back from police.
He has run into other online headaches this year over the sale of band posters for the rock group Pearl Jam that customers complained were overvalued.
Fefel said that he was conned on eBay when he didn't get jerseys that he bought for $1,400. He said he is no longer interested in doing business through online auctions.
"I'm done with eBay," he said.
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Yeah, like anybody wants an Orioles warmup jacket.
Warmup jackets and team jerseys should be illegal for anybody over the age of 12. Do these grown men (overgrown children) realize how foolish they look riding the Metro en masse from the suburbs adorned in their Caps jerseys?
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
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Yeah, it's a very middle class thing to do.
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Probably a big item amongst a lot of fans of the Drive By Truckers and NASCAR. If not, chances are it would be because they just want it to be for another team.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Yeah, like anybody wants an Orioles warmup jacket.
Warmup jackets and team jerseys should be illegal for anybody over the age of 12. Do these grown men (overgrown children) realize how foolish they look riding the Metro en masse from the suburbs adorned in their Caps jerseys?
you're so mature and stylish rhett. what do you wear on the metro? armani suits and alligator skin shoes?
I wear my caps jersey on the metro on my way to the game. in fact, in every city for every sport i have ever been to people wear jerseys to games.
i betcha if NASCAR had a race in the city, people would be wearing their racecar garb on the metro too!
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I dress like an adult while on the Metro. My wife would probably divorce me if I walked around in sports team garb. And rightfully so.
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Yeah, like anybody wants an Orioles warmup jacket.
Warmup jackets and team jerseys should be illegal for anybody over the age of 12. Do these grown men (overgrown children) realize how foolish they look riding the Metro en masse from the suburbs adorned in their Caps jerseys?
you're so mature and stylish rhett. what do you wear on the metro? armani suits and alligator skin shoes?
I wear my caps jersey on the metro on my way to the game. in fact, in every city for every sport i have ever been to people wear jerseys to games.
i betcha if NASCAR had a race in the city, people would be wearing their racecar garb on the metro too! [/b]
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I dress like an adult while on the Metro. My wife would probably divorce me if I walked around in sports team garb. And rightfully so.
ok, so what do you wear? please elaborate mr. sharp dressed man!! and not what you wear to work either.
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The only time I ride Metro is when I'm going to work.
Generally I try to avoid looking like a typical American...a walking corporate billboard for the Gap, Old Navy, Nike, or American sports teams.
Though I do occasionally wear a rockband t-shirt.
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I dress like an adult while on the Metro. My wife would probably divorce me if I walked around in sports team garb. And rightfully so.
ok, so what do you wear? please elaborate mr. sharp dressed man!! and not what you wear to work either. [/b]
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I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rhett shops at Banana Republic.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
The only time I ride Metro is when I'm going to work.
Generally I try to avoid looking like a typical American...a walking corporate billboard for the Gap, Old Navy, Nike, or American sports teams.
Though I do occasionally wear a rockband t-shirt.
soooo, you still arent telling us what you DO wear. come on, rhett, the people want to know what the fashion critic wears!!!!!
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Don't most 39 year old middle class metro region dwelling white men (who don't wear sports team jerseys) shop at Banana Republic?
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rhett shops at Banana Republic.
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I never said I was a fashion king. I just implied that I don't dress like a typical dopey American.
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
The only time I ride Metro is when I'm going to work.
Generally I try to avoid looking like a typical American...a walking corporate billboard for the Gap, Old Navy, Nike, or American sports teams.
Though I do occasionally wear a rockband t-shirt.
soooo, you still arent telling us what you DO wear. come on, rhett, the people want to know what the fashion critic wears!!!!! [/b]
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Don't most 39 year old middle class metro region dwelling white men (who don't wear sports team jerseys) shop at Banana Republic?
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rhett shops at Banana Republic.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I never said I was a fashion king. I just implied that I don't dress like a typical dopey American.
neither did i, i said you were a fashion CRITIC.
which you are being. and you still wont divulge information about your attire.
(though you did pretty much admit it was banana republic and though i am only 29, i have never bought anything in a Banana Republic)
and whats the gig with american jerseys, are europeans who wear football shirts to games and around town not dopey? canadians wear hockey jerseys to hockey games! what about the koreans who all wore their jerseys to the WBC?
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
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Yes, those people are equally as dopey (though some international type snobs would argue differently).
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I never said I was a fashion king. I just implied that I don't dress like a typical dopey American.
neither did i, i said you were a fashion CRITIC.
which you are being. and you still wont divulge information about your attire.
(though you did pretty much admit it was banana republic and though i am only 29, i have never bought anything in a Banana Republic)
and whats the gig with american jerseys, are europeans who wear football shirts to games and around town not dopey? canadians wear hockey jerseys to hockey games! what about the koreans who all wore their jerseys to the WBC? [/b]
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ok, rhett, so whats your favourite clothing store, and by that i really mean the store you buy most of your clothes from.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rhett shops at Banana Republic.
Nah, that other big American (I mean Chinese) fashion retailer.
WAL-MART!
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I get all my clothes on markdown from a fancy French store called Targèt.
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I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation with a man, but if you insist on asking...
I don't really shop that much, really. When I do, I tend to go for non-pleated khakis and dress pants, dark Levis, dark and earth toned solid colored shirts, both long sleeve, short sleeve, and t's. Campers, Doc Martens, Kenneth Cole loafers and oxfords. A couple of tastefully funkier shirts from French Connection. Brooks running shoes only when running and hking boots only when hiking. Black leather and brown suede jackets (bad vegetarian, bad). A puffy coat when it's cold.
Is that enough for you to go Xmas shopping for me on?
When I do buy clothes, it's often at Goodwill, since you can get the same stuff they sell new at a fraction of the cost. And the Banana Republic Factory Store when I'm in a spending mood.
Where should I Xmas shop for you?
Originally posted by le sonick:
ok, rhett, so whats your favourite clothing store, and by that i really mean the store you buy most of your clothes from.
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I bought gloves there, but that's about it.
We bought a ping pong table at Walmart the other day. The guy selling it to us, Juan, told us that he has 18 kids. "Not all by the same woman, because 18 kids would kill one woman."
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rhett shops at Banana Republic.
Nah, that other big American (I mean Chinese) fashion retailer.
WAL-MART! [/b]
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation with a man, but if you insist on asking...
not bad. i was just thinking as i was reading (do i have to buy him a christmas present now?)
for me?
well, for work i go with nothing but Jos. A Bank and Harry Rosen clothes. (brooks brothers if i can afford it) i have a fascination with cufflinks so i buy my shirts french cuffed...and suspenders, always, never a belt.
and when i go out, i have 12 hockey jerseys that i alternate ;)
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I get all my clothes on markdown from a fancy French store called Targèt.
Oui! Oui! I've been known to mingle amongst those racks myself.
I have never set foot in a Wal-Mart and plan to keep it that way.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
I have never set foot in a Wal-Mart and plan to keep it that way.
we think alike again. though, i have been in Wal-Mart before i can honestly say, not in the last 8 years or so, maybe more.
filene's basement is another fine store if you're looking for brand name clothes at a bargain price. there's actually one opening at the inner harbor next year sometime, underneath Best Buy.
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Yeah, I heard about Filene's opening at the Inner Harbor. Maybe I'll actually go down sometime.
Actually, I'm more excited about the Loew's Landmark (or whichever) movie theatre opening down there. My only real problem with it is that it's too far from the Light Rail and there's no real free parking which will end up keeping me away. I really wish they would have put it up at Hunt Valley or some other area, even if much farther away from me, where parking wasn't such an issue.
Speaking of parking, Soundgarden (or maybe it's all of the Fells Points merchants) are offering free parking until Christmas! Gotta love them for that.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Yeah, I heard about Filene's opening at the Inner Harbor. Maybe I'll actually go down sometime.
Actually, I'm more excited about the Loew's Landmark (or whichever) movie theatre opening down there. My only real problem with it is that it's too far from the Light Rail and there's no real free parking which will end up keeping me away. I really wish they would have put it up at Hunt Valley or some other area, even if much farther away from me, where parking wasn't such an issue.
Speaking of parking, Soundgarden (or maybe it's all of the Fells Points merchants) are offering free parking until Christmas! Gotta love them for that.
really? (on two accounts) Loews movie theatre? opening in Baltimore? i hadnt heard!! awesome.
and i didnt know Fells Point has free parking. and i work across the damn st. from soundgarden,haha. but i dont drive much and when i do i have a pass for the parking garage. but thats nice! merry xmas baltimore!
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so jag, where did you hear of a movie theater in baltimore city? online? if so i would love a link.
its the biggest thing charm city is lacking these days!
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From Soundgarden's newsletter:
FREE PARKING
NOW THROUGH CHRISTMAS!!
Stop by anytime between now and Christmas day and you'll find that our lot (in Baltimore) will be available to our customers, even Friday and Saturday nights! Don't fight with headaches that derive from shopping at the mall, come down to Fells Point and Armory Square and experience the wide array of unique shops that each community possesses.
I have no idea which lot they mean or if you have to get a ticket stamped or what. Not very clear but I guess you can call them.
Think I read about the Landmark Cinema in the Examiner but could have been The City Paper. This was months ago. Can't remember exactly where they plan to put it but seems to me on or near President St.. If I can find something about it online, I'll post a link. Should be great for you if you live around where I think. It's those of us in the suburbs who will have to weigh the extras of parking and such that will end up keeping us away when we would otherwise go. You know, like when you decide if you are going to see a show in DC or not.
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i found a couple sorta articles. damn, its right by my work. yeah, at the end of president st (the VERY end) where that new circle is near Roys, City Sports, the Oceanaire, etc)
i wanna buy one of those condos they are building over there, but i seem to have lost that half a million dollars i was going to buy it with!
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Okay, here we go (http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=11999).
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Although my Target loving wife insists they are different, I see Walmart and Target as one and the same. They're pretty interchangeable to me.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Although my Target loving wife insists they are different, I see Walmart and Target as one and the same. They're pretty interchangeable to me.
i somewhat agree, though i dont hate Target, i only really shop there when i get the occasional generic gift card for Christmas.
i take pride in where i spend my money, which is why i dont have any!
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Although my Target loving wife insists they are different, I see Walmart and Target as one and the same. They're pretty interchangeable to me.
Yeah, almost. But if my understanding is correct, Wal-Mart excels in what they do so wrong.
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Walmart loses the perception game. That's what they excel at. Otherwise, they're about the same.
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That sounds like 90% of the 35-54 year old men I see going into office buildings in Rosslyn every day.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I don't really shop that much, really. When I do, I tend to go for non-pleated khakis and dress pants, dark Levis, dark and earth toned solid colored shirts, both long sleeve, short sleeve, and t's. Campers, Doc Martens, Kenneth Cole loafers and oxfords. A couple of tastefully funkier shirts from French Connection. Brooks running shoes only when running and hking boots only when hiking. Black leather and brown suede jackets (bad vegetarian, bad). A puffy coat when it's cold.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation with a man, but if you insist on asking...
not bad. i was just thinking as i was reading (do i have to buy him a christmas present now?)
for me?
well, for work i go with nothing but Jos. A Bank and Harry Rosen clothes. (brooks brothers if i can afford it) i have a fascination with cufflinks so i buy my shirts french cuffed...and suspenders, always, never a belt.
and when i go out, i have 12 hockey jerseys that i alternate ;) [/b]
Everyone thinks having a tailor is bourgeoisie but there's nothing better than having clothes that you "designed" from the feet up, and they fit you perfectly. And there are plenty of reasonable tailors (usually Asian) who do a great job and can bring it in at a price less than retail Banana, JOB or BB.
I get a lot of praise for my suits, and none of them cost more than $500, and most of them were around $300. And you can designate exactly what kind of collars, sleeves, pleats, colors, etc. you want.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That sounds like 90% of the 35-54 year old men I see going into office buildings in Rosslyn every day.
now now, ggw. rhett has claimed to be a lot of things, being unique was never one of them.
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Why not sew them yourself?
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation with a man, but if you insist on asking...
not bad. i was just thinking as i was reading (do i have to buy him a christmas present now?)
for me?
well, for work i go with nothing but Jos. A Bank and Harry Rosen clothes. (brooks brothers if i can afford it) i have a fascination with cufflinks so i buy my shirts french cuffed...and suspenders, always, never a belt.
and when i go out, i have 12 hockey jerseys that i alternate ;) [/b]
Everyone thinks having a tailor is bourgeoisie but there's nothing better than having clothes that you "designed" from the feet up, and they fit you perfectly. And there are plenty of reasonable tailors (usually Asian) who do a great job and can bring it in at a price less than retail Banana, JOB or BB.
I get a lot of praise for my suits, and none of them cost more than $500, and most of them were around $300. And you can designate exactly what kind of collars, sleeves, pleats, colors, etc. you want. [/b]
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Do I get a badge for assimilating properly?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That sounds like 90% of the 35-54 year old men I see going into office buildings in Rosslyn every day.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I don't really shop that much, really. When I do, I tend to go for non-pleated khakis and dress pants, dark Levis, dark and earth toned solid colored shirts, both long sleeve, short sleeve, and t's. Campers, Doc Martens, Kenneth Cole loafers and oxfords. A couple of tastefully funkier shirts from French Connection. Brooks running shoes only when running and hking boots only when hiking. Black leather and brown suede jackets (bad vegetarian, bad). A puffy coat when it's cold.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
I get all my clothes on markdown from a fancy French store called Targèt.
Oui! Oui! I've been known to mingle amongst those racks myself.
I have never set foot in a Wal-Mart and plan to keep it that way. [/b]
I only go to Wally World occasionally. They have the liter sized hand sanitizer that Target lacks. But there are two distinct classes of people at both stores. The Mal-Wart peeps tend to be lower class. Women with those Xmas themed sweatshirts and men wearing hunting camo. Target people are more upwardly mobile. Particularly the women. You see a lot more broads shopping at Target. And they are a higher class of cuties than the the more trashy walmart chicks.
Yeah...target women are my type. That, and Devo did some Target commercials. The target nearest to me has a Starbucks inside. Has anyone ever seen a Starbucks at walmart? That is about as rare as finding a Confederate flag sticker on the back of a Volvo. Those starbucks women are my type too. It's too bad I'm married.
Funny thing...when I first left for Europe in 1989 there were no WalMarts in this area. When I returned in '93 they had sprouted all over like weeds. The good thing about my sojourn to Europe was that I missed the first Bush presidency entirely.
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You claim that you don't want to look like the "typical American" yet the wardrobe you describe couldn't be any more typical for an American of your age, gender, and socio-economic category.
So, yes, you get a badge. In keeping with your tastes, it will be the same badge every other 40-ish caucasian bureaucrat wears.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Do I get a badge for assimilating properly?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That sounds like 90% of the 35-54 year old men I see going into office buildings in Rosslyn every day.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I don't really shop that much, really. When I do, I tend to go for non-pleated khakis and dress pants, dark Levis, dark and earth toned solid colored shirts, both long sleeve, short sleeve, and t's. Campers, Doc Martens, Kenneth Cole loafers and oxfords. A couple of tastefully funkier shirts from French Connection. Brooks running shoes only when running and hking boots only when hiking. Black leather and brown suede jackets (bad vegetarian, bad). A puffy coat when it's cold.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
thats nice! merry xmas baltimore!
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ggw has admitted on this bboard he fancies boat shoes & Patagonia.
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Rhett, I'd have to agree. You're a rebel. :D
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So are you saying that the typical suburban Washingtonian looks like the typical American? Because when I get anywhere more than a handful of miles beyond the Beltway, I don't see the resemblance.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
You claim that you don't want to look like the "typical American" yet the wardrobe you describe couldn't be any more typical for an American of your age, gender, and socio-economic category.
So, yes, you get a badge. In keeping with your tastes, it will be the same badge every other 40-ish caucasian bureaucrat wears.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
Do I get a badge for assimilating properly?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That sounds like 90% of the 35-54 year old men I see going into office buildings in Rosslyn every day.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I don't really shop that much, really. When I do, I tend to go for non-pleated khakis and dress pants, dark Levis, dark and earth toned solid colored shirts, both long sleeve, short sleeve, and t's. Campers, Doc Martens, Kenneth Cole loafers and oxfords. A couple of tastefully funkier shirts from French Connection. Brooks running shoes only when running and hking boots only when hiking. Black leather and brown suede jackets (bad vegetarian, bad). A puffy coat when it's cold.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
ggw has admitted on this bboard he fancies boat shoes & Patagonia. :)
Yes, but only if I'm out on the Bay taking my Hinckley over to St. Michaels.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Everyone thinks having a tailor is bourgeoisie but there's nothing better than having clothes that you "designed" from the feet up, and they fit you perfectly. And there are plenty of reasonable tailors (usually Asian) who do a great job and can bring it in at a price less than retail Banana, JOB or BB.
I get a lot of praise for my suits, and none of them cost more than $500, and most of them were around $300. And you can designate exactly what kind of collars, sleeves, pleats, colors, etc. you want.
Jos A Bank tailors your suits for you! i pick out the style and color and they fit me and then i pick them up a couple weeks later. shirts are a different story but being a tall slender person with semi-broad shoulders and no beer gut, its pretty easy to find dress shirts that fit me fine as is.
i would never by a sports jacket or suit pants without having them tailored to me first.
and furthermore, where i work has a corporate acct with JOB. they have lots of sales. just last month i bought 2 suits and a pair of shoes for $750. (would've been over $1600 if i hadnt hit the sale)
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It's hard to believe you guys have corporate jobs and post as often as you do on this board. I thought such wasting of time was specific to government jobs.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
ggw has admitted on this bboard he fancies boat shoes & Patagonia. :)
Yes, but only if I'm out on the Bay taking my Hinckley over to St. Michaels. [/b]
My sister works in St.Michaels.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
So are you saying that the typical suburban Washingtonian looks like the typical American? Because when I get anywhere more than a handful of miles beyond the Beltway, I don't see the resemblance.
the typical washingtonian suburban looks a lot like the typical Boston suburban, and the typical Chicago suburban and the typical New York suburban and the typical Philly suburban.
i would say that more people dress the way you dress on a more regular basis than people who wear sports jerseys. by far.
and lets not forget the people on the way to those capitals games are washington suburbans. some of them probably live near you and work near you and "gasp" shop at the same stores you do!!!!
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
ggw has admitted on this bboard he fancies boat shoes & Patagonia. :)
Yes, but only if I'm out on the Bay taking my Hinckley over to St. Michaels. [/b]
My sister works in St.Michaels. [/b]
How much for half-and-half?
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Watch it. She's an oinker too. She'll cuff you & throw you in the pokey.