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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ratioci nation on March 29, 2004, 11:28:00 am
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An irony: Independent bands gaining popularity through commercials (http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grpress/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-1/108047271233040.xml)
The article talks about Pas/Cal who are playing the velvet lounge on 4/11
Band Website Here (http://www.pascalgoespop.com/)
Big Yawn Review of First EP (http://bigyawn.net/reviews/cds/pascal-handbag.htm)
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Hey, if you want to be a musician full time, gotta get some cash and exposure some way.
That Pas/Cal website is hysterical; they have their albums listed with "recommended" and "also recommended" notations. It's their own website, duh, the albums are recommended....!
They sound kind of twee and british and sunny...could make for a cool Lounge show.
Thanks, pollard.
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Ummmmm that show is the same night as lambchops not yet confirmed stint at iota. They are good, but they are no Lambchop.
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This is going to be a bit vague, but if anyone can help I'd appreciate it. In January, I saw a car comercial (I think saturn) and basically it had this guy walking down a beach or boardwalk and he kept running into everything. Anyway, I loved the song. It sounded like it could be something Super Furry Animals had done, but thats just a stab in the dark. I've nver seen the comerical again. Does this sound familar to anyone?
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You know, I just about freaked when I heard Gravity Rides Everything on a car commercial-- so random. But I think whether or not a car commercial makes a band "big" has to do with how hard it is to find the song.
For example, VW puts the song and artist names from their ads on their webpage. That helps. In the case of others, though, especially with more indy music, it's not so simple. The lyrics "Gravity Rides Everything" weren't played during the commercial, it's a song that doesn't sound like Modest Mouse's usual stuff, and it would be somewhat hard working from nothing to know where to start looking...
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www.adtunes.com (http://www.adtunes.com)
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I remember back in the old days when people used to get pissed off when their favorite rock band's songs were turned into commercials. Now you guys all think it's a good thing? What happened to the to the spirit of independence of days gone by?
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damn fresh out of troll food
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I think it's different when a band that's 'made it' sells out for commercials, for one. Also, it's become so prevalent, we're inured to it a bit.
Here we're talking about indie bands that aren't selling out but are selling 'up' -- this is what might bring them enough attention to make it as a full time band. Whereas when you hear the Cure or U2 or R.E.M. on a commercial, you may think "fecking putzes, like they need more money?" It's just about money, not exposure.
It's tough times for recording artists for so many reasons right now. Get some exposure and work it, baby, work it.
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Originally posted by poorballball:
I remember back in the old days when people used to get pissed off when their favorite rock band's songs were turned into commercials. Now you guys all think it's a good thing? What happened to the to the spirit of independence of days gone by?
I'm glad i read all the posts before i wrote something cause i was thinking the exact same thing, if its not their bands its called selling out, if it is their bands then its the coolest thing in the world. :roll:
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I'm glad i read all the posts before i wrote something cause i was thinking the exact same thing, if its not their bands its called selling out, if it is their bands then its the coolest thing in the world. :roll:
Guiny, you are part of they, you are here everyday
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so sorry what i meant to say was...
shame on moby, apples in stereo, the shins, the shazam, brendan benson, the dandy warhols, etc for wanting to be able to make a little money from their music. that doesn't involve sleeping on peoples floors, eating crappy food.
are any of you lot willing to give up a comfortable existence to go out on the road a play to indifferent audiences, maybe sell a couple cds to pay for gas? there are still bands that that the no "sellout" ethic.
personally when i hear a song from a cool band i'm inclind to go out and find it. it also might mean that a fav artist might be able to tour or put out another record.
i think most of the clamor over selling out was over the beatles "revolution" nike ads... and that case if was micheal jackson who owned the beatles song publishing who was making the money not the beatles.
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Well other than when touring, I don't see why a rock musician shouldn't have a second job anyway, be it giving guitar lessons, working in an office, or delivering the mail. I mean, does it really take eight hours a day to practice your instrument and write songs?
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I'm glad i read all the posts before i wrote something cause i was thinking the exact same thing, if its not their bands its called selling out, if it is their bands then its the coolest thing in the world. :roll:
You must be stoked about that new Carnival Cruise commercial with the "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" soundtrack.
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Originally posted by poorballball:
I mean, does it really take eight hours a day to practice your instrument and write songs?
acutally, it could easily take that long...my dad used to play for 8 hours because he loved it so much, and he wasn't even a "professional"...
as with any such things...let the market decide...
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Originally posted by poorballball:
Well other than when touring, I don't see why a rock musician shouldn't have a second job anyway, be it giving guitar lessons, working in an office, or delivering the mail. I mean, does it really take eight hours a day to practice your instrument and write songs?
well many rock musicians do that as well to pay what expenses didn't get covered on the road, getting money together to record the next record, there is still nothing wrong with earning a little extra money by liscening a song. plus it's get the song out to more people who would have heard of your band otherwise. do you think brendan benson or his record company can afford several 30 second spots on primetime tv?
how about all those bands who play certain guitar drums in exchange for sponsorship? or wear certain t-shirts, jeans or tennis shows. it's all about sponsorship. it's been that way for centuries. instead of being the king or other royalty making the bills, it's now big business.
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Originally posted by poorballball:
Well other than when touring, I don't see why a rock musician shouldn't have a second job anyway, be it giving guitar lessons, working in an office, or delivering the mail. I mean, does it really take eight hours a day to practice your instrument and write songs?
why should they work if they have enough money not to work? i for one would not have some shitty day job working for somebody else if I could afford not to, I would do something with my time, but certainly not delivering the mail or working in an office
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I'm glad i read all the posts before i wrote something cause i was thinking the exact same thing, if its not their bands its called selling out, if it is their bands then its the coolest thing in the world. :roll:
You must be stoked about that new Carnival Cruise commercial with the "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" soundtrack. [/b]
Soundtrack?
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I'm glad i read all the posts before i wrote something cause i was thinking the exact same thing, if its not their bands its called selling out, if it is their bands then its the coolest thing in the world. :roll:
Guiny, you are part of they, you are here everyday [/b]
Actually i wasn't here the last four days....Sorry.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
Actually i wasn't here the last four days....Sorry.
oh, then you CLEARLY aren't a regular
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I heard the intro to James, "born of frustration" for a hotel ad on one of those thinking persons cable channels....I thought it was great that they could get a few quid (not that James need a few quid) for an old song they wrote probably over 15 years ago.
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I heard that the person(s) who now have control to the rights of (Burning) Ring of Fire, which was written by June Carter Cash and sung by her husband Johnny, was going to sell the song for 1 million to an anti-hemmoroid medicine company to be used in a commerically. Thankfully, Roseanne Cash threatened legal action, and the song will not be used.
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Isn't "Ring of Fire" being used in an Applebees commercial?
And "I've Been Everywhere" is being used by Comfort Inn.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Isn't "Ring of Fire" being used in an Applebees commercial?
Goddamn those Applebee's commercials... they bastardize songs to advertize horrible sub-par food... ewewew. I mute 'em all now, to preserve my sanity
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Ring of fire would be better served on a Mexican restaurant or Chili place ad.
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Originally posted by poorballball:
I remember back in the old days when people used to get pissed off when their favorite rock band's songs were turned into commercials. Now you guys all think it's a good thing? What happened to the to the spirit of independence of days gone by?
You've never seen me rant about this. In fact, for decades, I've taken up for muscians who have done this though, you are dead on, it's been against popular opinion. Granted, there are times when it is less tasteful than others.
My thinking has always been based on two issues:
1. Hey, making music is their job, regardless of how they choose to use it.
2. If I have to put up with commercials, than I'd much rather hear music in them that I like than the crap that is either manufactured for them or other popular crap pieces that I don't want to hear in any shape or format.
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We've gained some record sales through licensing our music to be used on MTV programs. We've had 7 songs off the last album used on "Road Rules" and "Road Rules/Real World Challenge" They've got episode guides which will list the bands that were featured in each episode. A few times it's even on the video clips they'll feature within the episode guide. Granted, the amount of money we get for licensing isn't much, it's still more than what we had right? Plus, we've seen the positives with people purchasing our album saying they heard it on one of the shows.
We didn't get anything for the licensing but we also had one of our newer tracks used on a Canon new employee multimedia CD!
I still have my crappy office job though :(
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Ted Leo's "Where Have All The Rude Boys Gone" riff is now opening up the TRL shows... it's pretty funny, really, with all those teens screaming and everything, but there's no credit given that I've seen. There's a good chance, though, that if they played the song into the lyrics, they'd lose everyone anyway. Teddy's lyrics are hardly accessible...
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........people acting fooooooooooLISH!
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
...it's pretty funny, really, with all those teens screaming and everything
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
Ted Leo's "Where Have All The Rude Boys Gone" riff is now opening up the TRL shows... it's pretty funny, really, with all those teens screaming and everything, but there's no credit given that I've seen. There's a good chance, though, that if they played the song into the lyrics, they'd lose everyone anyway. Teddy's lyrics are hardly accessible...
Hey, that never stopped Iggy Pop's song "Lust For Life" being used to maximum effect. I often laugh to myself when I see those commercials with that song and imagine it with the lyrics. Better yet, the reactions of those watching the commercials who don't know the song.
Yes, I have a very wild sense of humor.