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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on March 30, 2004, 02:52:00 pm
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Came across this in a Post chat transcript, sounds perfect. Come on, better than Polly Esthers?!?
Rosslyn Gal: Hi GOGs!
What is up with Tequila Beach - has anyone been? I keep getting e-mails about the place and want to find out what it's like and if it is worth a night out there.
Thanks for your help!!
The Going Out Gurus: I went briefly two weeks ago before heading off on vacation, and honestly, it's like a little bit of Ocean City right on F Street. Same owner as Baltimore's Baja Beach Club, so you have the girls in bikini tops selling overpriced beers out of ice buckets on the corner of the dance floor, fairly cheesy hip-hop music, large bars with a coral-reef theme and a tiki bar upstairs. What really amused me were the huge mechanical sharks hanging from the ceiling and the huge stone Tiki head carved into the wall -- they look like props from the old Scooby Doo Mysteries. I don't know that I'd spend a night there, but it may be a good spot for cheesy fun -- and a much better option than Polly Esther's around the corner. -- Fritz
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You really do have one of those jobs where you do absolutely, positively nothing work related yet still get paid, don't you?
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
You really do have one of those jobs where you do absolutely, positively nothing work related yet still get paid, don't you?
She works in your office?
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My gym is actually part of my workplace. It gives me something to do for when I need a break from posting on the board.
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Hey, what can I say. I have a slef-depracating sense of humor. At least I'm not reading through random Washington Post chat threads.
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My gym is actually part of my workplace. It gives me something to do for when I need a break from posting on the board.
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Hey, what can I say. I have a slef-depracating sense of humor. At least I'm not reading through random Washington Post chat threads.
You have a sense of humor?
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Yes, unlike you, I can make fun of myself and not spend my entire life trying to prove how much better I am than everyone else.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Hey, what can I say. I have a slef-depracating sense of humor. At least I'm not reading through random Washington Post chat threads.
You have a sense of humor? [/b]
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Yes, unlike you, I can make fun of myself and not spend my entire life trying to prove how much better I am than everyone else.
Thanks for proving my point!!
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Originally posted by Bags:
Came across this in a Post chat transcript, sounds perfect. Come on, better than Polly Esthers?!?
Rosslyn Gal: Hi GOGs!
What is up with Tequila Beach - has anyone been? I keep getting e-mails about the place and want to find out what it's like and if it is worth a night out there.
Thanks for your help!!
The Going Out Gurus: I went briefly two weeks ago before heading off on vacation, and honestly, it's like a little bit of Ocean City right on F Street. Same owner as Baltimore's Baja Beach Club, so you have the girls in bikini tops selling overpriced beers out of ice buckets on the corner of the dance floor, fairly cheesy hip-hop music, large bars with a coral-reef theme and a tiki bar upstairs. What really amused me were the huge mechanical sharks hanging from the ceiling and the huge stone Tiki head carved into the wall -- they look like props from the old Scooby Doo Mysteries. I don't know that I'd spend a night there, but it may be a good spot for cheesy fun -- and a much better option than Polly Esther's around the corner. -- Fritz
while most of us, well, at least smackie and i, are always up for the cheese factor, i don't think that this is the best of ideas for a group gathering.
plus, it's not like ocean city is the ideal beach locale to be emulating.
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I am not sure what game you are playing, but you're the only little boy playing.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Yes, unlike you, I can make fun of myself and not spend my entire life trying to prove how much better I am than everyone else.
Thanks for proving my point!!
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Rhett - 0 [/b]
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
I am not sure what game you are playing, but you're the only little boy playing.
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i bet girls dance on the bars there
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
while most of us, well, at least smackie and i, are always up for the cheese factor, i don't think that this is the best of ideas for a group gathering.
plus, it's not like ocean city is the ideal beach locale to be emulating.
While Venerable speaks the truth on cheese, he is even more right about The East Coast version of "The OC". Way too bottom the of the barrel, even for me.
I once saw a "dance off" between two guys for a girl that was about a 5 at best on the smackster scale at a club Ocean City, and this was in like 2002. A dance off can not be tolerated, even for a 10, but for a 5? After waiting for someone to start laughing and the hidden cameras to come out because I was surely being punked, I promptly set my can of Foster's (the only "premium" beer in the place) down on the bar and walked out.
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I thought this sort of thing only happened in bad 80's movies.
Originally posted by vansmack:
I once saw a "dance off" between two guys for a girl that was about a 5 at best on the smackster scale at a club Ocean City, and this was in like 2002. A dance off can not be tolerated, even for a 10, but for a 5? After waiting for someone to start laughing and the hidden cameras to come out because I was surely being punked, I promptly set my can of Foster's (the only "premium" beer in the place) down on the bar and walked out. [/b]
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I proudly print out the Going Out Gurus chat every Friday and read it over the weekend, not in my office. I was looking up info on a lunch place and remembered the hysterical discussion on Teguila Beach...didn't mean to interrupt the important work of the board with anything funny.
I'm either swamped at work working 12 hour days and over weekends, or waiting for my next deadline. Currently waiting for my next deadline. I can assure you I put in more than my time, workwise. As if you give a shit.
I don't post on a bunch of other boards, by the way -- I'm sure that frees up some time for me to be looking at newpaper sites, etc.
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Sorry, I was just feeling bad for all of the working stiffs like the Safeway and Giant employees who work a solid eight hours for half of what people on this board probably make and don't spend any worktime reading various internet sites.
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Sorry, I was just feeling bad for all of the working stiffs like the Safeway and Giant employees who work a solid eight hours for half of what people on this board probably make and don't spend any worktime reading various internet sites.
Good job they took Mankies advice and didnt bother going to College :)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I once saw a "dance off" between two guys for a girl that was about a 5 at best on the smackster scale at a club Ocean City, and this was in like 2002. A dance off can not be tolerated, even for a 10, but for a 5?
a 5 on the smackster scale? what was she, 22? he he. . .
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I dunno...Tequila Beach sounds like it might be a refreshing change of pace from smoky bars filled with dour hipper-than-thou alt/indie types...I said "might"
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I gotta say, I find Polly Esthers and the like absolutely intolerable [see the Adams Morgan thread, though P.E. and Tequila Beach appear to be extreme versions of what's happening in A.M.].
If I want a change of pace from any kind of indie-type scene, I'd rather head to Biddy Mulligan's, Whitlow's, Gazuza, Nanny O'Brien's or Stetson's Grill...
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You know, I would too... but I temp. Top that off with the fact that I probably make about as much as Safeway and Giant employees at the end of the week. Oh, let's also consider that I get all of the office work that no one else wants, like entering in numbers and letters into a spreadsheet, or scanning in multiple documents, or staring at checks deciding whether they are "corporate" or "private".
I check this site to see if I'm still somewhat sane. And those Giant and Safeway workers probably could as well. Anyone that could work a cashier is capable of temping. But after my description, who the hell would want to?
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Sorry, I was just feeling bad for all of the working stiffs like the Safeway and Giant employees who work a solid eight hours for half of what people on this board probably make and don't spend any worktime reading various internet sites.
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Sounds like more fun than the temp work I did just before coming to DC.
Anyway, safe to say, temping sucks.
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
You know, I would too... but I temp. Top that off with the fact that I probably make about as much as Safeway and Giant employees at the end of the week. Oh, let's also consider that I get all of the office work that no one else wants, like entering in numbers and letters into a spreadsheet, or scanning in multiple documents, or staring at checks deciding whether they are "corporate" or "private".
I check this site to see if I'm still somewhat sane. And those Giant and Safeway workers probably could as well. Anyone that could work a cashier is capable of temping. But after my description, who the hell would want to?
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Sorry, I was just feeling bad for all of the working stiffs like the Safeway and Giant employees who work a solid eight hours for half of what people on this board probably make and don't spend any worktime reading various internet sites.
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Temps that come work at my office have it good, at least when I am directing them. I always try to make it nice for them, I give them a radio, CDs, snacks and try to treat them with respect in terms of making the projects they do interesting and giving them an idea of the big picture of the project so they understand they are part of something that is of some importance...not ALL temp jobs are bad.
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Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Temps that come work at my office have it good, at least when I am directing them. I always try to make it nice for them, I give them a radio, CDs, snacks and try to treat them with respect in terms of making the projects they do interesting and giving them an idea of the big picture of the project so they understand they are part of something that is of some importance...not ALL temp jobs are bad.
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I've got to wait for health insurance. Open enrollment's sometime in October. No paid vacations. If I don't work, I don't get paid. The checkout line sounds far more enticing.
Anyone know of anybody who's hiring music reviewers?
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
the temp agency that i worked at offered health insurance if you were there after 3 months.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i bet girls dance on the bars there
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My girl dances on the bars at Polyesthers......Bartenders choice. ;)
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i bet girls dance on the bars there
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My girl dances on the bars at Polyesthers......Bartenders choice. ;) [/b]
Sounds like y'all should check out the new Coyote Ugly as well!
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See, that sounds respectable. I can't tell you how many places shove you in the corner, drop piles of paper off, and run.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Temps that come work at my office have it good, at least when I am directing them. I always try to make it nice for them, I give them a radio, CDs, snacks and try to treat them with respect in terms of making the projects they do interesting and giving them an idea of the big picture of the project so they understand they are part of something that is of some importance...not ALL temp jobs are bad.
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Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
no, that's what it means to be a TEMP...you can't expect businesses to bear the costs of providing all these things to temporary workers...many professional benefits packages cost over 30K...with being a temp, the temp gets the benefit of flexibility, not having to be committed to long-term goals of an organization, not being expected to stay late or do anything "above and beyond"...some temp agencies provide benefits to workers that are in their programs, though, which is pretty good
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Originally posted by Bags:
Sounds like y'all should check out the new Coyote Ugly as well! [/QB][/QUOTE]
I probably will once......Without her of course ;)
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Anyone know of anybody who's hiring music reviewers?
Actually we will be looking for a Communications Coordinator very soon...someone who will write press releases, newsletters, etc. and do some administrative tasks supporting the VP of Communications...our organization is such that you can sort of grow the job into something more if you look for opportunities and are able to do the basic things asked of you...
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I've stayed late; I've done things "above and beyond". What you just said screws Temps over. People think they're getting subpar office workers who don't know how to tie their shoelaces. I have yet to have a full length conversation with anyone in any of the offices I'm sent to.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
with being a temp, the temp gets the benefit of flexibility, not having to be committed to long-term goals of an organization, not being expected to stay late or do anything "above and beyond"...
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But sometimes the 'benefits' of temp work go both ways. You can stop going anytime you want, no notice, say when a better job comes along. I've temped, and I did so specifically because I needed to be able to leave on a dime. And, it was "temp" -- had cobra or something else covering me.
AND, if I had stayed with the temp agency for a matter of months, I'd get health insurance, earn paid vacation and become eligible to sign up for 401K options (without matching, though, I think).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
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That was my experience with temping in NC.
I did temp in NY state while in grad school the first time around. It was basically the same job with the same company for two years, with all of the non-benefits of temping. The company only hired a couple of people as true employees with benefits (out of maybe 50 temps).
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
See, that sounds respectable. I can't tell you how many places shove you in the corner, drop piles of paper off, and run.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Temps that come work at my office have it good, at least when I am directing them. I always try to make it nice for them, I give them a radio, CDs, snacks and try to treat them with respect in terms of making the projects they do interesting and giving them an idea of the big picture of the project so they understand they are part of something that is of some importance...not ALL temp jobs are bad.
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whoops. . don't know how i did that.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
I've stayed late; I've done things "above and beyond". What you just said screws Temps over. People think they're getting subpar office workers who don't know how to tie their shoelaces. I have yet to have a full length conversation with anyone in any of the offices I'm sent to.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
with being a temp, the temp gets the benefit of flexibility, not having to be committed to long-term goals of an organization, not being expected to stay late or do anything "above and beyond"...
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what I *said* doesn't screw temps over...it's just the fact of the marketplace...a business will hire a temp ususually because they don't have enough work to justify the cost of having another full-time employee receiving benefits on their books...my comments were meant to highlight some up-sides to being a temp...basically a company should not expect that a temp would be highly committed to their projects or feel really invested in the work...if the temp *is* that speaks well for them
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Anyone know of anybody who's hiring music reviewers?
Thirsty - OnTap Online has freelancers. Lemme know if you want more info.
-I hated being a temp. Yes, you do know what you are getting into...However, I was left out of meetings, events, work conversations -- heck, even my badge didn't work on some of the doors. Not to mention not having benefits. It was good that I was getting paid & I was employed - but I wanted full-time work with benefits.
-I'd rather go to Polyesthers than Tequila Beach -blech.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
I've stayed late; I've done things "above and beyond". What you just said screws Temps over. People think they're getting subpar office workers who don't know how to tie their shoelaces. I have yet to have a full length conversation with anyone in any of the offices I'm sent to.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
with being a temp, the temp gets the benefit of flexibility, not having to be committed to long-term goals of an organization, not being expected to stay late or do anything "above and beyond"...
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This sounds way too familiar -- I think you took my slot at my last temp job. ;)
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I was never given any of those benefits, even in the temp job I stayed at for 2 years while in grad school.
Originally posted by Bags:
AND, if I had stayed with the temp agency for a matter of months, I'd get health insurance, earn paid vacation and become eligible to sign up for 401K options (without matching, though, I think).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
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Originally posted by El Tee:
I hated being a temp...I was left out of meetings...
And this is bad, how? (I don't like meeting so much :) )
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That's pretty shitty. If it was a two-year gig, you should have negotiated with the employer -- they were paying the temp agency enough to have covered your salary plus some essential benefits directly to you. Yeah, they have to buy you out, but that's done all the time.
Were you working 40-hour weeks? If it's less than 20-hours, that can mean you're not eligible for benefits (which is often true at a company, not just a temp agency, as well).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
I was never given any of those benefits, even in the temp job I stayed at for 2 years while in grad school.
Originally posted by Bags:
AND, if I had stayed with the temp agency for a matter of months, I'd get health insurance, earn paid vacation and become eligible to sign up for 401K options (without matching, though, I think).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
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I started by working 40 hours weeks, but decreased to 24-32 by my own choice. I don't think the market was such that i would have been able to negotiate.
Originally posted by Bags:
That's pretty shitty. If it was a two-year gig, you should have negotiated with the employer -- they were paying the temp agency enough to have covered your salary plus some essential benefits directly to you. Yeah, they have to buy you out, but that's done all the time.
Were you working 40-hour weeks? If it's less than 20-hours, that can mean you're not eligible for benefits (which is often true at a company, not just a temp agency, as well).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
I was never given any of those benefits, even in the temp job I stayed at for 2 years while in grad school.
Originally posted by Bags:
AND, if I had stayed with the temp agency for a matter of months, I'd get health insurance, earn paid vacation and become eligible to sign up for 401K options (without matching, though, I think).
Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
Do you give them health insurance? Paid vacation? 401K options?
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What is the advantage of temping?
I mean, there are plenty of shitty jobs out there that one could have full-time. So, if all the temp jobs are shit and have no benefits, wouldn't it make sense to take a FT position somewhere so you could have bennies with your shit?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
What is the advantage of temping?
I temped when I was looking for a job, so that if I set up an interview, I could take any day off from temping that I needed. In other words, I could work the temp schedule around my needs, not vice versa.
I'd assume for a student it would be similar; if you have a paper due or a test coming up, you can say "I"m not working tomorrow or Friday..."
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I'm going to preface this with the idea that if companies gave a damn about what temps they hired, perhaps they'd get better quality work out of them. Similarly, they would expect more out of the temps.
You are correct, but I hesitate to call what you describe "benefits". Sure, I don't have to go into work everyday. I don't have to work that hard, and on downtime I sneak around on the forum. But the downside is that I don't know anyone at any of the offices, pretty much everyday is your first day, and people don't expect anything from you. And finally, being referred to as "the Temp" is downright insulting.
As I stated earlier, how you treat people that Temp for you is commendable. Showing someone the bigger picture allows them the opportunity to actually know what the hell they're aiming to accomplish.
Okay, that's all for my rant. I'm pretty sure I haven't complained about this before, so I'll leave it at this.
Originally posted by Ball Girl:
what I *said* doesn't screw temps over...it's just the fact of the marketplace...a business will hire a temp ususually because they don't have enough work to justify the cost of having another full-time employee receiving benefits on their books...my comments were meant to highlight some up-sides to being a temp...basically a company should not expect that a temp would be highly committed to their projects or feel really invested in the work...if the temp *is* that speaks well for them
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you'll like this one, too...I even set up the network password for temps to be "tempsrule"...
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It brings a tear to the eye, it does.
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Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Originally posted by El Tee:
I hated being a temp...I was left out of meetings...
And this is bad, how? (I don't like meeting so much :) ) [/b]
I hear ya ;) ...but I suppose I meant something similar to Thirsty's comments...being a part of the meetings helps set the bigger picture. It's an opportunity to be included in the work. Some of the discussions or decisions in meetings are the projects that you end up working on.
Aw heck, who am I kidding. I hate meetings. But at the time, I was so bored as a temp and no one talked to me, I'd do anything.
ggw's question - for me I couldn't find a full-time job, so I had to take what I could get. I looked for temp jobs in my field, and there were "promises" that it would become permanent.
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sometimes temp jobs can lead to real jobs
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
sometimes temp jobs can lead to real jobs
I agree. That's one reason why I took it. I found out after it would never be the case. They should let temps talk to full-time employees before they take the job. ;)
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El Tee, check your PM!
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
El Tee, check your PM!
Roger.
Check your email.