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Title: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: tooms on March 30, 2004, 11:42:00 pm
i know there's another thread, sort of, on this, but i saw this on a Dylan website---says ticket are going on sale at the 930 box office at 10 AM on 4/2.
 
 http://my.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html#0402 (http://my.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html#0402)
 
 it also initially said there would be a pre-sale at bobdylan.com on 4/1, but that seems to taken down now.
 
 sorry if i'm blowing 930's cover on this, but this seems to be the worst-kept secret out there...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Guiny on March 31, 2004, 09:47:00 am
I can't wait not to be there.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 31, 2004, 09:58:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  I can't wait not to be there.
I, too, am excited not to see dylan this friday night  :)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Taster on March 31, 2004, 10:13:00 am
You think we're looking at $75 tickets?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: eltee on March 31, 2004, 12:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by skins33:
  You think we're looking at $75 tickets?
And any guesses on the time of the event?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on March 31, 2004, 12:03:00 pm
last time i saw him (t'was 6 years e're i saw him) he was drunk drunk drunk on stage-- could barely sing-- really sad to watch.  but i've heard he's cleaned it up.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: bearman🐻 on March 31, 2004, 12:14:00 pm
My coworker is incredibly excited about this...thanks for posting the info. I'm not a huge Dylan fan, but can appreciate his as a musician and songwriter. If anything, you have to love PJ Harvey's cover of Highway 61!  :)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on March 31, 2004, 12:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
  last time i saw him (t'was 6 years e're i saw him) he was drunk drunk drunk on stage-- could barely sing-- really sad to watch.  but i've heard he's cleaned it up.
6 years ago is still this decade..right? According to another board member what you saw is his best performance in decades.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on March 31, 2004, 01:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
Quote
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
  last time i saw him (t'was 6 years e're i saw him) he was drunk drunk drunk on stage-- could barely sing-- really sad to watch.  but i've heard he's cleaned it up.
6 years ago is still this decade..right? According to another board member what you saw is his best performance in decades. [/b]
I believe my words were "his shows in recent years have been the best in two decades."  Meaning that there have been numerous bad shows in the last two decades but that they have recently become much stronger.
 
 Of course, I'm sure you've seen him numerous times over the last 20 years and are basing your opinions on experience.  Or, perhaps you are merely speaking out your ass, per usual?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on March 31, 2004, 04:41:00 pm
actually, since our plans to see NSO play Mahler are blown (the show's at 1:30pm, what are they thinking??) i may try to go...
 
 any idea how this would work?  is it sales at the club only or online too?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: bikerchickdc on March 31, 2004, 04:54:00 pm
I'm still holding out for the Beastie Boys... which was the first rumor going around, way before Dylan was mentioned!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on March 31, 2004, 04:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bikerchickdc:
  I'm still holding out for the Beastie Boys... which was the first rumor going around, way before Dylan was mentioned!
Actually, I'd prefer this too. But only because I already have Warner tix for Dylan.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: skonster on March 31, 2004, 05:11:00 pm
NSO?  Mahler?  Go back to Russia!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by chimblysweep:
  actually, since our plans to see NSO play Mahler are blown (the show's at 1:30pm, what are they thinking??) i may try to go...
 
 any idea how this would work?  is it sales at the club only or online too?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 31, 2004, 05:14:00 pm
I wouldn't want to see either live, but there is something funny about preferring a joke band like the Beastie boys to a serious, important artist like Dylan.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on March 31, 2004, 05:14:00 pm
Sorry, skonster, they're sold out of $20 cheap seats now and it looks like a total sellout for tomorrow...
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by skonster:
  NSO?  Mahler?  Go back to Russia!
 
   
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Guiny on March 31, 2004, 07:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
  I wouldn't want to see either live, but there is something funny about preferring a joke band like the Beastie boys to a serious, important artist like Dylan.
That statement was just plain idiotic.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 31, 2004, 08:27:00 pm
i'd been in for a beastie boys show... especially if they did it like lollapalooza where they played actual instruments plus the rap thing.  SABOTAGE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: bikerchickdc on March 31, 2004, 09:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
  I wouldn't want to see either live, but there is something funny about preferring a joke band like the Beastie boys to a serious, important artist like Dylan.
I respect Dylan as an artist but he is not my cup of tea.  Never owned a Dylan album, probably never will.  And while I will be the first one to say that the 9:30 is the absolute best place to see a legendary artist of that caliber (I've seen B.B. King, James Brown, Loretta Lynn and Johnny Cash at the Club, among others, and I think the 9:30 does all of us huge favors by booking the real legends), I find it hard to get excited about an artist I personally don't like.  I'm not saying that the 9:30 has to book around my tastes... only that I would be pretty excited to have a surprise Friday night show be someone I'd be glad  to see.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Jaguär on March 31, 2004, 09:51:00 pm
It's now unofficially official. No surprise there. No price listed as of yet though.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kreinsch on March 31, 2004, 10:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by tooms:
  i know there's another thread, sort of, on this, but i saw this on a Dylan website---says ticket are going on sale at the 930 box office at 10 AM on 4/2.
 
Well, the official email says 7pm for doors.
 
 Is there an opener? Or would Bob being going on at 8pm?
 
 I'm hoping to make a late show (11pm) somewhere else and wondering if I could pull both off.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 10:19:00 pm
The big news is that there's a presale tomorrow (Thursday) -- so no waiting in line outside the club!!  What's so funny is that I just saw the Victoria's Secret commercial four mintues ago....surreal.
 
 Surprise! At the Club!
 
 Some things are just too bizarre to believe: for example, Bob Dylan in a Victoria's Secret commercial. Or better yet: Bob Dylan playing a surprise show at the 9:30 Club. Or best of all: a Dylan presale just for 9:30 Club email subscribers. We swear this is no April Fool's hoax.
 
 BOB DYLAN and his band
 Friday, April 2
 7pm Doors
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on March 31, 2004, 10:42:00 pm
Was it necessary to post the password?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 11:03:00 pm
Do you think that was wrong?  I've seen passwords up, and traffic here isn't huge, plus there's a two ticket limit.  If you think it's wrong, I'll take it down.  Really -- no skin off my nose....
 
 -edit-
 
 So that was WEIRD.  I  just tried to edit my message above, and I got it all as editable, but the bottom five lines with the link and password were completely mising.  I re-posted, now they're gone.  Maybe concurrent to my editing an administrator was editing?
 
 Sorry, truly, if I did something wrong.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 31, 2004, 11:06:00 pm
In this case I think that posting the password defeats the advantages of being on the clubs email announcement list.  Seeing as there are 5000+ registered forum members, there are either a lot of lurkers or people who don't bother coming back.
 
 If the forumites feel strongly that the password be publically available here then speak up.  Otherwise I'll just edit it out.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 11:10:00 pm
Sorry Kosmo -- so many forum regulars have been unable again and again to subscribe to the email.  And I never think of lurkers, if you asked me I'd say there are 50 people here.....
 
 I was taking it off just as you were.  Thanks.
 
 We do, by the way, post passwords to other presales here....but like selling Black Cat tix, this *is* the 9:30 Club forum...
 
 PS, I never thought one of *my* posts would be edited by an administrator!  I'm so full of shame~!   ;)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 31, 2004, 11:10:00 pm
no need to apologize... seeing as its Dylan and scapling his tickets is big business i feel the less public the password is the better.  it's not to say that the email isn't being forwarded around lickety split.  but it only takes a second to register.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 11:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   but it only takes a second to register.
To register for the email?  While that may be true, it takes eleven registrations before one sticks....
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 31, 2004, 11:15:00 pm
i don't have a problem with forumites privately sharing the password amongst themselves, thats what pm is for. and i realize other presales passwords are posted here, but I and others may feel Dylan is a special case.  For instance I sure would have liked to have gotten the Prince presale info, without having to join the fanclub.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 31, 2004, 11:20:00 pm
i realize that numerous people have complained about not getting the email... and several more will probably be whining about tomorrow... but email lists aren't perfect sometimes.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 11:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  i realize that numerous people have complained about not getting the email... and several more will probably be whining about tomorrow... but email lists aren't perfect sometimes.
I agree with you, Kosmo -- I shouldn't have posted it.  I did because of the email situation, but enough of us get it and end up sharing the info via P.M.  You're right, I tried to take the info down myself.  also, I didn't think this one through well because (1) it's not a show I'll be clamoring for tickets to, and (2) there was so much buzz I got all excited when I saw the email.....  You're the voice of reason, I hear ya.    :)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: TheNomad on March 31, 2004, 11:34:00 pm
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Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: pourryan on March 31, 2004, 11:39:00 pm
the password is available other places.  I actually just found it on another site.  Sorry, I altered this post because it orignally said where the password could be found.  Sorry again.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 12:16:00 am
I think we may have posted passwords from the snail-mail newsletter, as people had trouble getting it. The list_serve newsletter seems to work just fine.  I just resubscribed to it this morning (since it had been blocked at my work e-mail by the spam-blocker) and I received it just fine.
 
 But, I'll readily admit that my request was made mainly out of self-interest.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Jaguär on April 01, 2004, 12:31:00 am
Go GGW, are you going to all 3 shows or are you trading up?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 12:39:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Jaguär:
  Go GGW, are you going to all 3 shows or are you trading up?
I sold my Saturday tickets but I'll probably go to the Warner show, as I got really excellent seats. And I plan to go Friday, assuming I get tickets.
 
 This won't start that "selfish" argument again, will it?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: grotty on April 01, 2004, 08:51:00 am
So...this pre-sale. Is it box office only or can you do it via internet?
 
 I'd sure like to see the email if anyone cares to share    :D  
 
 muchas advance gracias
 
 ***********************
 
 thank you, thank you, thank you
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 01, 2004, 09:05:00 am
so how soon will dylan tickets show up on ebay or craiglists?  i've got 10:09am
 
 and ggw brings up a good point about the email list.  the weekly annoucements can easily be regarded as spam because it bulked email.  many spam blockers work by having people indicating mail is spam, even if they signed up for it in the first place.  
 
 one of the bulk emails i get suggests adding the senders email address to a receivers address book.  in this case that would be 9:30_club@mail.vresp.com
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 01, 2004, 10:00:00 am
Ah, yes... quality sober dylan... should be good for those of us who can secure tix.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: TheNomad on April 01, 2004, 11:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  so how soon will dylan tickets show up on ebay or craiglists?  i've got 10:09am
 
 and ggw brings up a good point about the email list.  the weekly annoucements can easily be regarded as spam because it bulked email.  many spam blockers work by having people indicating mail is spam, even if they signed up for it in the first place.  
 
 one of the bulk emails i get suggests adding the senders email address to a receivers address book.  in this case that would be 9:30_club@mail.vresp.com
Tickets gone in 2 minutes.  Wow!  
 
 Thanks to those who got me the password.
 
 This show should be great.
 
 When is the club booking Springsteen?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: thirsty moore on April 01, 2004, 11:12:00 am
I was incredibly close to punching in my credit card until I realized there's a little something called rent that I need to pay.
 
 GGW, I expect a full report on Dylan.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kreinsch on April 01, 2004, 11:13:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Stuart Ransom Miller:
 Tickets gone in 2 minutes.  Wow!
Yep, that was quick. (A little pricier than some of the other shows on the tour. Oh well.)
 
 The page said that parking tickets were available, but I couldn't find them. Anyone else find parking tickets? Or did they disappear even faster than the show tickets?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: allmy$to930 on April 01, 2004, 11:15:00 am
First scalper on craigslist posted at 10:05.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 01, 2004, 11:16:00 am
nothing on ebay yet... i was close  :)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: skonster on April 01, 2004, 11:16:00 am
I love society.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
  First scalper on craigslist posted at 10:05.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 11:17:00 am
How much are the tickets?  I'm assuming this will all happen again tomorrow for the general sale...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kreinsch on April 01, 2004, 11:18:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
  How much are the tickets?  I'm assuming this will all happen again tomorrow for the general sale...
They were $65
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ratioci nation on April 01, 2004, 11:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  I was incredibly close to punching in my credit card until I realized there's a little something called rent that I need to pay.
 
 GGW, I expect a full report on Dylan.
same here, just could not pay that much, not complaining
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2004, 12:07:00 pm
This sucks. I've been monitoring this thread and the other one like ten times per day for the past week. I went out last night and was away from my computer for one evening and that's when the word on the pre-sale comes down. For the record, I didn't get the e-mail either, and I know I am on the mailing list since I've received 9:30 Club e-mailings in the past. I've already told my boss I was taking the day off from work on Friday so that I could go stand in line at the box office. I take it they're not selling anything at the box office then?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 12:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  This sucks. I've been monitoring this thread and the other one like ten times per day for the past week. I went out last night and was away from my computer for one evening and that's when the word on the pre-sale comes down. For the record, I didn't get the e-mail either, and I know I am on the mailing list since I've received 9:30 Club e-mailings in the past. I've already told my boss I was taking the day off from work on Friday so that I could go stand in line at the box office. I take it they're not selling anything at the box office then?
The on-line was a presale.  You can still get tickets at the box-office tomorrow, I believe.
 
 Or, there's always Craigs List (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/tix/27821971.html)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 12:29:00 pm
Darth, it's VERY VERY rare that the pre-sale is a large portion of the tickets available.  If I were a betting woman, I'd say only 200 or 300 of the 1000 available tickets were sold today.  Try again tomorrow; if the pre-sale was online, I'd bet the general sale will be online as well.
 
 Go to tickets.com and see what they say when you try to buy Dylan tix.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 12:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kreinsch:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
  How much are the tickets?  I'm assuming this will all happen again tomorrow for the general sale...
They were $65 [/b]
Isn't 65 the age for retirement? Interesting.....
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2004, 12:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 The on-line was a presale.  You can still get tickets at the box-office tomorrow, I believe.
Really? So it's not sold out completely? Well, I'm happy to hear that there are still tickets left that will be sold at the box office. Are we still talking 10am tomorrow? I guess I'll give it a shot.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 Or, there's always Craigs List (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/tix/27821971.html)
$1000? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 12:33:00 pm
Darth, this is my assumption, but there's no info on it yet.
 
 So, 9:30 Club, what's the story - the email had only pre-sale information.  Is there a general ticket sale tomorrow, and will it be at the box office only?  If tix are available at www.tickets.com, (http://www.tickets.com,) are there physical sites that folks can go to?
 
 Important questions all...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2004, 12:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
  Darth, it's VERY VERY rare that the pre-sale is a large portion of the tickets available.  If I were a betting woman, I'd say only 200 or 300 of the 1000 available tickets were sold today.  Try again tomorrow; if the pre-sale was online, I'd bet the general sale will be online as well.
 
 Go to tickets.com and see what they say when you try to buy Dylan tix.
OK, thanks for the advice, Bags. Tickets.com doesn't have anything listed for Dylan at the 9:30 Club. As coincidence would have it though, I'm going to the Crystal Method concert tonight, so I'll try asking the box office staff tonight.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 01, 2004, 12:43:00 pm
There's a link to tomorrow's sale at bobdylan.com.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Darth Ed on April 01, 2004, 12:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
  There's a link to tomorrow's sale at bobdylan.com.
Looks promising. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 12:48:00 pm
Takes you to tickets.com
 
 On Sale 4/2
 10 a.m.
 All tickets GA
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: debaser64 on April 01, 2004, 01:23:00 pm
classic.
 there is already someone with a "buy it now " price on e-bay of $850.
 cocksucker.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 01:30:00 pm
In a perfect world those assholes get stuck holding the tickets.  Probably doesn't happen much...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 01:36:00 pm
Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck? This is America. If you don't want to pay $850 then don't buy the damn ticket...if you want to get pissed off at someone get pissed off at the chump who pays the $850, if it weren't for people like them there wouldn't be scalpers. AND NO! It's not blame the victim, nobody puts a gun to these peoples heads to buy tickets from scalpers.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 01:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck?
I'm not pissed off (yes, I think they are sleazy, but I'm allowed to think that).  I merely hope that the *market* works to screw them out of their investment.  It won't, but I'd love it to...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: brennser on April 01, 2004, 01:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck? This is America. If you don't want to pay $850 then don't buy the damn ticket...if you want to get pissed off at someone get pissed off at the chump who pays the $850, if it weren't for people like them there wouldn't be scalpers. AND NO! It's not blame the victim, nobody puts a gun to these peoples heads to buy tickets from scalpers.
agreed, its econ 101 in its purest form - if people wanna pay it, let em pay it - for people who have the tix I actually see it as a win win - either you sell for a ton of $$ or you get to see Dylan in a small club
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: debaser64 on April 01, 2004, 01:43:00 pm
true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 01:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck?
I'm not pissed off (yes, I think they are sleazy, but I'm allowed to think that).  I merely hope that the *market* works to screw them out of their investment.  It won't, but I'd love it to... [/b]
I don't know if you're a "sharer"  :roll:  but there's plenty of them on here....so with that in mind, it's evidently okay to steal music from the artists so they get diddly-squat for their work, but not okay to legitmately buy a ticket, of which the artist will get their portion, then sell it for profit to someone who wasn't on the ball but really wants to go.
 
 No?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: brennser on April 01, 2004, 01:45:00 pm
Quote
it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices
I believe there was a 2 ticket max
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 01:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by debaser64:
  true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.
Isn't the show tomorrow? Not much time for a bidding war.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: debaser64 on April 01, 2004, 01:53:00 pm
not just dylan, but shows in general. plus, i think you could get some decent bids before the show even got close. i mean, its bob fucking dylan!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 01:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  [it's okay to share files] but not okay to legitmately buy a ticket, of which the artist will get their portion, then sell it for profit to someone who wasn't on the ball but really wants to go.
 
 No?
This whole argument makes no sense at all -- obviously the scalper price is high because the show is a sell out.  That means the artist will get its share of all available tickets, a set amount of money regardless of who buys the ticket -- and how often the tickets are resold!  
 
 Folks who didn't get tickets during the five minute window Dylan tix were available were not being lazy or "off" the ball...many of the folks who are looking at scalped tickets now tried to get their own through the site but couldn't.
 
 You're talking about the "artist's take" on scalp resales?  The artist sees none of that.  It's not akin to file sharing, but akin to *buying* used CDs.  A legitimate sale, but not flowing back to the artist in any way (except, of course, that the used CD sale may breed another fan who spends money on the rest of the artist's catalog or shows -- exactly like me!).
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 01, 2004, 02:02:00 pm
With the way that tickets are so damn expensive to these things, it's up to the artist, not the consumer, to set a price. In my mind, scalping is like daytime robbery. You buy your tickets for the price that the artist deems necessary...if you end up reselling that ticket, in my mind the artist and venue should get a cut too. Ticketmaster are the jerks who just figured out a way to do it legally, so we pay them money for a service which we don't really need. With the internet, I just can't imagine that Ticketmaster is needed anyway...why don't we just buy tickets from the artists themselves through their sites (like Radiohead's WASTE) or through the venues? Just a thought. But scalping truly is sleazy, and that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Ticketmaster are the jerks who just figured out a way to do it legally
Ain't that the truth....crazy like a fox, though.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: keithstg on April 01, 2004, 02:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by debaser64:
  true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.
Again, econ 101. There have been measures put in to most ticket outlets to try and prevent blocks of tickets being snatched up (like having to key in a random word or something), but if that fails, there's really nothing to be done about it.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: grotty on April 01, 2004, 02:24:00 pm
Who needs to buy a block of tickets, if you can sell a pair for $850!     :eek:    
 
 Some states have serious price limitations for ticket re-selling that ebay strictly enforces. Obviously not the District.
 
 Ebay's event ticket re-sell policy:
 
  rules (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/event-tickets.html)
 
 It's hardly worth my while here in PA (+25%), but you've got unlimited potential there in good old DC.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 02:26:00 pm
yeah, can't you be arrested for scalping tickets on the street?  I think that's true in NYC.  And around the MCI center.  Thank god you can sell tix for face value in front of 9:30...(though is that legal, or they just don't care...)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 01, 2004, 02:26:00 pm
Silly, though... two auctions for two of the ticket items for sale on ebay don't end until after the show is over... how does that work?  (Here's $800 for tickets to yesterday's show?)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 01, 2004, 02:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  Silly, though... two auctions for two of the ticket items for sale on ebay don't end until after the show is over... how does that work?  (Here's $800 for tickets to yesterday's show?)
i haven't read the text of the auction, but often the seller will put a statement like. . .high bidder at 3:00 pm will get the tickets.  ebay has an option for the seller to end an auction early. . or can just put in a buy it now price and let that sit until someone buys it.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 02:32:00 pm
Didn't Third Eye Blind sell tickets to all their shows on one tour through eBay?
 
 I wonder how that went.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 02:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
 
Quote
You're talking about the "artist's take" on scalp resales?  The artist sees none of that.  It's not akin to file sharing, but akin to *buying* used CDs.  A legitimate sale, but not flowing back to the artist in any way (except, of course, that the used CD sale may breed another fan who spends money on the rest of the artist's catalog or shows -- exactly like me!). [/b]
No, I'm saying the artist gets their take on the initial purchase of the ticket....The point I was making was that it's seems to be okay to steal from an artist, but not okay to pay over the odds for a ticket you don't have that someone has for sale. The artist gets their take on the initial purchase of a cd...file sharing is stealing, plain and simple...God bless those that do it, but don't complain if they get caught.
 
 And I don't think it was an argument..who was arguing?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 02:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck? This is America. If you don't want to pay $850 then don't buy the damn ticket...if you want to get pissed off at someone get pissed off at the chump who pays the $850, if it weren't for people like them there wouldn't be scalpers. AND NO! It's not blame the victim, nobody puts a gun to these peoples heads to buy tickets from scalpers.
That may happen with Darkness tickets.  They are currently selling for $150 on eBay and the band has cancelled their last two gigs (Cleveland and Pittsburgh) and maybe cancelling tomorrow nights Philly show due to the singer having a throat problem.  Unless the band reschedules, anyone who bought scalped tickets is probably s-o-l.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 02:48:00 pm
I didn't mean argument as in arguing, but as in a position.  Not trying to start a war over this.  
 
 I still don't get your premise though -- with or without scalping, the artist is getting its same share.  I don't think any of the anti-scalpers were claiming that their concern was that the artists aren't being compensated (though someone brought it up after this particular discussion started)....but just that the scalpers are raping and pillaging.  Though, all allowable in the free market, I agree.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 02:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
  I didn't mean argument as in arguing, but as in a position.  Not trying to start a war over this.  
 
 I still don't get your premise though -- with or without scalping, the artist is getting its same share.  I don't think any of the anti-scalpers were claiming that their concern was that the artists aren't being compensated (though someone brought it up after this particular discussion started)....but just that the scalpers are raping and pillaging.  Though, all allowable in the free market, I agree.
Lets both let this go...but I think file stealing is raping and pillaging the artist, but many feel this should be okay.  "Rape but don't be raped" if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 01, 2004, 02:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  "Rape but don't be raped" if you know what I mean.
With that I think I finally understand what you're saying..."I'll steal from the artists, but feck you if you want to steal from me you bad scalpers..." kind of thing?  Interesting premise.  Convoluted in my opinion, but interesting nonetheless...   ;)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: keithstg on April 01, 2004, 02:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
That may happen with Darkness tickets.  They are currently selling for $150 on eBay and the band has cancelled their last two gigs (Cleveland and Pittsburgh) and maybe cancelling tomorrow nights Philly show due to the singer having a throat problem.  Unless the band reschedules, anyone who bought scalped tickets is probably s-o-l. [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Wow, talk about a thing called FLUB!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 03:01:00 pm
I think that it's completely understandable that the same people who download are the same one's who bitch about scalping.  In both cases, people are acting on the self-serving idea that they are owed something at the price they want to pay (or not pay) for it.  And if the price of something is not what they want to pay, then they are being victimized.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 01, 2004, 03:14:00 pm
I'm one that has NEVER downloaded music and I'm bitching about the scalping. I guess I'm old-fashioned  :)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 03:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bunnyman:
  I'm one that has NEVER downloaded music and I'm bitching about the scalping. I guess I'm old-fashioned    :)  
It's quite simple...that thingie on your desk that looks like a telly? Well get that plastic thingie that has a wire coming out of it which will probably be near the flat square doo-hickey with letters all over it, then push on a button....only that's as far as I got because I don't know which button.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 03:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  "Rape but don't be raped" if you know what I mean.
With that I think I finally understand what you're saying..."I'll steal from the artists, but feck you if you want to steal from me you bad scalpers..." kind of thing?  Interesting premise.  Convoluted in my opinion, but interesting nonetheless...    ;)  [/b]
....do unto others.....
   ;)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: on April 01, 2004, 03:59:00 pm
Don't  fileshare (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=RIAA_PSA.mpg)!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 01, 2004, 04:01:00 pm
I think the people who have Darkness tickets and DO get to see them are s.o.l.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by keithstg:
   
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
That may happen with Darkness tickets.  They are currently selling for $150 on eBay and the band has cancelled their last two gigs (Cleveland and Pittsburgh) and maybe cancelling tomorrow nights Philly show due to the singer having a throat problem.  Unless the band reschedules, anyone who bought scalped tickets is probably s-o-l. [/b]
Wow, talk about a thing called FLUB! [/QB][/QUOTE]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 04:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
 [QB] I think the people who have Darkness tickets and DO get to see them are s.o.l.
 
 
Quote

 Hey don't knock them...at least they could come up with a name that had more than one syllable, which is more than we can say for all the other 'it' bands that have come and gone recently.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Mongo on April 01, 2004, 04:35:00 pm
I doubt any of you know this, but as of right now is purchasing directly from the club tomorrow morning the only way to get tix or is tickets.con going to release them on their site as well.  Just don't want to get to the club and find out that the tickets sold out in 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 04:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mongo:
  I doubt any of you know this, but as of right now is purchasing directly from the club tomorrow morning the only way to get tix or is tickets.con going to release them on their site as well.  Just don't want to get to the club and find out that the tickets sold out in 20 seconds.
There is a link to Tickets.com on the official Dylan site:
 
 http://bobdylan.com/live/ (http://bobdylan.com/live/)
 
 http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=3595&pid=5325255 (http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=3595&pid=5325255)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Mongo on April 01, 2004, 05:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Mongo:
  I doubt any of you know this, but as of right now is purchasing directly from the club tomorrow morning the only way to get tix or is tickets.con going to release them on their site as well.  Just don't want to get to the club and find out that the tickets sold out in 20 seconds.
There is a link to Tickets.com on the official Dylan site:
 
  http://bobdylan.com/live/ (http://bobdylan.com/live/)
 
  http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=3595&pid=5325255 (http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=3595&pid=5325255) [/b]
Thanks GGW.  Looks like waiting in the rain would be a bad idea then unless you are the first one in line.  After about three sales at the club you're pretty much outta luck.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 01, 2004, 05:12:00 pm
Does anyone have info on showtime?  Doors?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 01, 2004, 05:14:00 pm
I have doors at 7pm.
 But with the will call line, it will be a mess for sure.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: grotty on April 01, 2004, 05:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   That may happen with Darkness tickets.  They are currently selling for $150 on eBay and the band has cancelled their last two gigs (Cleveland and Pittsburgh) and maybe cancelling tomorrow nights Philly show due to the singer having a throat problem.  Unless the band reschedules, anyone who bought scalped tickets is probably s-o-l.
And then the original buyer/seller actually gets a refund on top! Scalpers probably hope for a cancellation.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 05:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by grotty:
   
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   That may happen with Darkness tickets.  They are currently selling for $150 on eBay and the band has cancelled their last two gigs (Cleveland and Pittsburgh) and maybe cancelling tomorrow nights Philly show due to the singer having a throat problem.  Unless the band reschedules, anyone who bought scalped tickets is probably s-o-l.
And then the original buyer/seller actually gets a refund on top! Scalpers probably hope for a cancellation. [/b]
But don't you have to have the original ticket to get a refund?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 01, 2004, 05:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  But don't you have to have the original ticket to get a refund?
depends on how you bought it. . ticketmaster will just refund the money automatically if you bought it online, and there is no announced make-up date.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 01, 2004, 05:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  I have doors at 7pm.
 But with the will call line, it will be a mess for sure.
Thanks.  I may try to pick up my tickets tonight and avoid the will call line tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: grotty on April 01, 2004, 05:48:00 pm
Quote
 But don't you have to have the original ticket to get a refund?
Maybe sometimes - But when that Radiohead show @ Bullrun got cancelled I just received an automatic credit. My friend had paid big $$ to a broker & got screwed. No show - no refund - and nothing back from the broker.
 
 I think ticketbastard may sometimes ask you to mail the tix back now, but I've received a refund from them without sending anything back - e.g., I've still got my unused Field fuckup Day ticket & I got the $$ back.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kreinsch on April 01, 2004, 05:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  I have doors at 7pm.
 But with the will call line, it will be a mess for sure.
Thanks.  I may try to pick up my tickets tonight and avoid the will call line tomorrow. [/b]
Do you know if we are allowed to pick them up tonight?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 01, 2004, 05:50:00 pm
Nothing to say, just wanted to be post #100.  :D
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 01, 2004, 05:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by grotty:
  Maybe sometimes - But when that Radiohead show @ Bullrun got cancelled I just received an automatic credit. My friend had paid big $$ to a broker & got screwed. No show - no refund - and nothing back from the broker.
 
 I think ticketbastard may sometimes ask you to mail the tix back now, but I've received a refund from them without sending anything back - e.g., I've still got my unused Field fuckup Day ticket & I got the $$ back.
That's unpossible.  What about us folks who paid cash??
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: skonster on April 01, 2004, 05:53:00 pm
And yet 'just announced' is sitting there at 999.  how sad.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Nothing to say, just wanted to be post #100.   :D  
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 01, 2004, 05:53:00 pm
Speaking of which, my guess is he'll go on stage around 9:00, assuming no opener, and that the early time is because the club knows they have all will-calls to deal with.  Any comments from the powers that be?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  I have doors at 7pm.
 But with the will call line, it will be a mess for sure.
Thanks.  I may try to pick up my tickets tonight and avoid the will call line tomorrow. [/b]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: grotty on April 01, 2004, 05:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
   
Quote
Originally posted by grotty:
  Maybe sometimes - But when that Radiohead show @ Bullrun got cancelled I just received an automatic credit. My friend had paid big $$ to a broker & got screwed. No show - no refund - and nothing back from the broker.
 
 I think ticketbastard may sometimes ask you to mail the tix back now, but I've received a refund from them without sending anything back - e.g., I've still got my unused Field fuckup Day ticket & I got the $$ back.
That's unpossible.  What about us folks who paid cash?? [/b]
It's all true - yes - it's all true.
 
 Cash purchases are probably instructed to just go back to place of purchase for a refund, in which case - you'd need the original tickets.
 
 I assure you however that scalpers aren't usually paying cash. Like this morning - NO cash changed hands. Just credit cards being charged. The same cards that would be refunded if Bob gets sick.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 01, 2004, 07:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kreinsch:
  Do you know if we are allowed to pick them up tonight?
I guess not.  According to eddie on the FAQ board:
 
 Dylan will call tickets will be available after 12:00 noon tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: kreinsch on April 01, 2004, 07:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by kreinsch:
  Do you know if we are allowed to pick them up tonight?
I guess not.  According to eddie on the FAQ board:
 
 Dylan will call tickets will be available after 12:00 noon tomorrow. [/b]
Yeah, I called a few minutes ago and got the same answer.
 
 On the bright side, at least the parking tickets are up for sale finally.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: adianlynes on April 01, 2004, 08:14:00 pm
hey you lucky dogs who got the presale tickets, how much are they going for???
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: ggw on April 01, 2004, 08:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Astar:
  hey you lucky dogs who got the presale tickets, how much are they going for???
$65 ($74 including the fees & charges)
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Guiny on April 02, 2004, 10:50:00 am
Most people on this board bitch about the high ticket prices so i dont expect many of you to be at the show.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 02, 2004, 10:53:00 am
We spent our $74 per ticket on a NASCAR race later in the month. Gotta have priorities.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  Most people on this board bitch about the high ticket prices so i dont expect many of you to be at the show.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 10:57:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
 [QB] We spent our $74 per ticket on a NASCAR race later in the month. Gotta have priorities.
 
 
Quote

 Then don't you ever have the nerve to make fun of anyone paying high prices for anything EVER AGAIN! That's just idiotic...you can buy a whole  scalextric for less than that and have NASCAR in your own home 7 days per week.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 02, 2004, 11:03:00 am
WOw... today's was an even faster sellout.  By my watch, they were out in 2 min flat.  
 
 Congrats to those who got 'em and happy craigslisting to those who didn't...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: xcanuck on April 02, 2004, 11:12:00 am
Heck...it was faster than 2 mins. I kept hitting "Refresh". First three times it said the transaction volumes were too high. Fourth time it said sold out. Luckily my wife was trying too and she got tix. I saw him at the 9:30 back on the Time Out Of Mind tour so this is my second time seeing him at the club. This will be sweet. The LONG line at willcall tonite will NOT be. But I'll live with it!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 02, 2004, 11:14:00 am
There is NO concert experience half as exciting as being AT a Nextel Cup race in person, and i'll stand on Rhett Miller's, Jeff Tweedy's, Bob Dylan's, Thom Yorke's or Morrissey's living room coffee tables and proclaim that with the top of my voice.
 
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
 
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
 [QB] We spent our $74 per ticket on a NASCAR race later in the month. Gotta have priorities.
 
 
Quote

 Then don't you ever have the nerve to make fun of anyone paying high prices for anything EVER AGAIN! That's just idiotic...you can buy a whole  scalextric for less than that and have NASCAR in your own home 7 days per week. [/b]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Darth Ed on April 02, 2004, 11:22:00 am
I didn't have any encounter any problems here and was able to score two tickets. Unfortunately, I needed three tickets, not two. My two friends who were trying concurrently with me couldn't get in, so now one of them can't go.  :(
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 02, 2004, 11:30:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  I didn't have any encounter any problems here and was able to score two tickets. Unfortunately, I needed three tickets, not two. My two friends who were trying concurrently with me couldn't get in, so now one of them can't go.   :(  
hmmm, think the price you can extract for the privilege of going with you....take it out in trade of some sort.    :D
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 11:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bags:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  I didn't have any encounter any problems here and was able to score two tickets. Unfortunately, I needed three tickets, not two. My two friends who were trying concurrently with me couldn't get in, so now one of them can't go.    :(  
hmmm, think the price you can extract for the privilege of going with you....take it out in trade of some sort.     :D  [/b]
A true friend would give their two friends the tickets.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: helicon1 on April 02, 2004, 12:26:00 pm
Quote
The LONG line at willcall tonite will NOT be. But I'll live with it! [/qb]
I have confidence that the 9:30 staph will keep it orderly. Let us know how it went.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 02, 2004, 12:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
  There is NO concert experience half as exciting as being AT a Nextel Cup race in person, and i'll stand on Rhett Miller's, Jeff Tweedy's, Bob Dylan's, Thom Yorke's or Morrissey's living room coffee tables and proclaim that with the top of my voice.
Well, they're different types of excitement.  Still, you're right, there's nothing quite like being there in person.  At either type of event.
 
 I still have a hard time saying "Nextel Cup" though.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 12:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by ballard:
  There is NO concert experience half as exciting as being AT a Nextel Cup race in person, and i'll stand on Rhett Miller's, Jeff Tweedy's, Bob Dylan's, Thom Yorke's or Morrissey's living room coffee tables and proclaim that with the top of my voice.
Well, they're different types of excitement.  Still, you're right, there's nothing quite like being there in person.  At either type of event.
 
 I still have a hard time saying "Nextel Cup" though. [/b]
I bet it's a lot easier than saying, "right turn"
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 02, 2004, 01:00:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
 I bet it's a lot easier than saying, "right turn"
HAHA - good point!  :D
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: eltee on April 02, 2004, 01:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  I can't wait not to be there.
I, too, am excited not to see dylan this friday night   :)  [/b]
Fibber!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 02:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by El Tee:
   
Quote
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
 [qb] I can't wait not to be there. [/b]
I, too, am excited not to see dylan this friday night    :)   [/b]
I even bought a bottle of wine to celebrate me not going tonight.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 02, 2004, 02:33:00 pm
REPORT FROM THE FRONT-LINE:
 I have just returned from picking up my will call tickets.  It is cold and rainy.  There is already a line of approximately 20 (foolish) people waiting to get in the club.  There is also already a short line to get will-call tickets, though it cycles through quickly.  There is a big red SOLD OUT sign.  
 Roadies are moving lots of stuff, including moving *out* what appeared to be 9:30's big hanging speakers.  (Is that possible.)
 
 Summary of report: It is cold and rainy.  People are silly.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 02, 2004, 02:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  Summary of report: It is cold and rainy.  People are silly.
My SO picked up our tickets and reported the same thing.  People sitting in the rain, waiting to get in.  Ugh.    As of an hour ago, there are still parking tickets left.  I was very glad to hear that.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 02, 2004, 02:54:00 pm
Why, oh, why would someone wait to get in 930?  You can always push to the front if you're obsessive about it.  But it's not like there's a bad seat or something.  SIlly people in their silly wet sleeping bags wasting their silly sick days.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Skeeter:
   
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  Summary of report: It is cold and rainy.  People are silly.
My SO picked up our tickets and reported the same thing.  People sitting in the rain, waiting to get in.  Ugh.    As of an hour ago, there are still parking tickets left.  I was very glad to hear that. [/b]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 02, 2004, 03:00:00 pm
Maybe they are out-of towners who spent all their $$ on tickets and couldn't afford last minute DC hotel prices...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Mongo on April 02, 2004, 03:05:00 pm
Just got back myself and I think pretty much all of them are out of towners.  I was thinking about staying out there but I'll pass.  Just hope it stops raining before 7.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 03:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
    There is already a line of approximately 20 (foolish) people waiting to get in the club.  
 Summary of report: It is cold and rainy.  People are silly.
This is a Bob Dylan and not Justin Timberlake show isn't it?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 02, 2004, 03:14:00 pm
Mary Jane will facilitate odd behavior.
 
 
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
    There is already a line of approximately 20 (foolish) people waiting to get in the club.  
 Summary of report: It is cold and rainy.  People are silly.
This is a Bob Dylan and not Justin Timberlake show isn't it? [/b]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 02, 2004, 03:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
  Mary Jane will facilitate odd behavior.
   
You mean, like eating Funions?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 02, 2004, 03:48:00 pm
Did y'all see this in the FAQ?  8:00 is an early showtime!
 
 Doors open at 7:00 and the show starts at 8:00.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Guiny on April 02, 2004, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Doors open at 7:00 and the show starts at 8:00.
I can't believe The Doors are opening for Bob Dylan.   :D
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 02, 2004, 05:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
   
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Doors open at 7:00 and the show starts at 8:00.
I can't believe The Doors are opening for Bob Dylan.    :D  [/b]
Why not...Morrisson would put on a livelier performance than Dylan.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: skonster on April 02, 2004, 06:59:00 pm
BOB Dylan!?  Crap!  I thought I was buying tickets for the Wallflowers!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: jkeisenh on April 03, 2004, 10:44:00 am
Things I learned at the Bob Dylan Show
 by chimbly
 
 1.  Bob Dylan is really old.  He no longer looks like his album covers or sounds like his albums.
 2.  Even someone who self-identifies with the counterculture and is identified by his introducer as counterculture can stray far, far into the mainstream.
 3.  It's hard for a show to be exciting when nobody in the band moves more than two feet from where they're standing.
 4.  Bob Dylan and Clint Black (I assume) have a lot in common.  Big touring show, cowboy hats, the black thing...
 5.  Sometimes, nobody can ruin a good, classic song quite like the artist himself.
 6.  Bob Dylan fans are no longer hippies and scenesters.  They are, for the most part, khaiki-clad, BMW- driving men.
 7.  $70 is alot to spend on a ticket, and is likely to result in disappointment.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 03, 2004, 12:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  6.  Bob Dylan fans are no longer hippies and scenesters.  They are, for the most part, khaiki-clad, BMW- driving men.
 
You met GGW at the show then?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: G.Love on April 03, 2004, 01:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  6.  Bob Dylan fans are no longer hippies and scenesters.  They are, for the most part, khaiki-clad, BMW- driving men.
 
You met GGW at the show then? [/b]
HA,HA!!!  :p  
 
 Good one Mank.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: eltee on April 03, 2004, 03:03:00 pm
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The LONG line at willcall tonite will NOT be. But I'll live with it! [/b]
I have confidence that the 9:30 staph will keep it orderly. Let us know how it went. [/QB]
I wasn't there when doors opened, but everything seemed to be maintained and run smoothly during the show. Except - was the HVAC system broken?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Guiny on April 03, 2004, 05:46:00 pm
So, how were The Doors?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Random Citizen on April 04, 2004, 12:22:00 am
Received the new Victoria's Secret catalogue in the mail today and there's a Bob Dylan album, Lovesick: The Collector's Edition, for sale for $10 exclusively through VS.
 
 
 
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  The big news is that there's a presale tomorrow (Thursday) -- so no waiting in line outside the club!!  What's so funny is that I just saw the Victoria's Secret commercial four mintues ago....surreal.
 
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: markie on April 04, 2004, 12:34:00 am
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  Received the new Victoria's Secret catalogue in the mail today and there's a Bob Dylan album, Lovesick: The Collector's Edition, for sale for $10 exclusively through VS.
 
 
   
Can I have it?
 
 I mean, there is a TV add too, featuring a very old looking Bob.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 07, 2004, 11:03:00 am
Washington Post  review (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48359-2004Apr3.html) of 9:30 Club show.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 07, 2004, 11:06:00 am
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  Received the new Victoria's Secret catalogue in the mail today and there's a Bob Dylan album, Lovesick: The Collector's Edition, for sale for $10 exclusively through VS.
 
 
   
Can I have it?
 
 I mean, there is a TV add too, featuring a very old looking Bob. [/b]
What? The cd or catalogue?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: eltee on April 07, 2004, 11:37:00 am
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Washington Post  review (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48359-2004Apr3.html) of 9:30 Club show.
sign up req'd........
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bags on April 07, 2004, 11:45:00 am
Too Cool: Bob Dylan at The 9:30 Club
 
 By Joe Heim
 Special to The Washington Post
 Sunday, April 4, 2004; Page D01
 
 Bob Dylan was as inscrutable as ever during a rare club appearance at the 9:30 Friday night. Barely acknowledging the sold-out crowd, he crouched behind his keyboards at the left side of the stage and faced his band instead of the audience. For the length of the two-hour show it was as if the exuberant fans who greeted each song with roars simply didn't exist.
 
 And so somehow the intimate club show, which had been rumored for weeks but announced only on Wednesday, felt oddly impersonal. Dylan and his four-piece band might just as easily have been in the studio rehearsing as playing to the capacity crowd of 1,000.
 
 The first of three sold-out Washington shows -- he performed at American University's Bender Arena last night and is at the Warner Theatre tonight -- the concert was a reminder of just how little is really known about Dylan and how little he chooses to reveal.
 
 Wearing all black except for a white cowboy hat, the 62-year-old rock legend had the cool, detached bearing of an existential outlaw. It was a look well suited to the opening song, "Drifter's Escape," and later gems including the plaintive "Hazel," "If Dogs Run Free" and his on-death's-doorstep ballad "Not Dark Yet." And there was "Love Sick," which is used, surreally enough, in a new Victoria's Secret commercial in which Dylan appears.
 
 Though his voice was froggier than ever, he and his band mates -- guitarists Larry Campbell and Freddy Koella, bassist Tony Garnier and drummer Richie Hayward -- compensated with sound and speed, galloping through "Highway 61 Revisited," "Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I'll Go Mine)" and a feisty, rockabilly rendition of "Summer Days."
 
 Because Dylan says so little other than to introduce his band, his songs must speak for him. And so everything he performs is up for interpretation, including the three songs he chose for an encore: "Cat's in the Well," "Like a Rolling Stone" and "All Along the Watchtower." These are the same three that he has included in every encore of this tour.
 
 With their lyrics of reproach and foreboding, the songs seem to speak directly to the times, particularly "Cat's in the Well," an obscure track from his 1990 album "Under the Red Sky." Dylan's intensity broke through his distant mask as he sang, "The cat's in the well and grief is showing its face / The world's being slaughtered and it's such a bloody disgrace."
 
 Perhaps Dylan is more connected than he's letting on after all.
 
 Maybe he's just got bigger things on his mind. A full four decades into his career and it's still impossible to know quite what to make of him.
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 07, 2004, 11:47:00 am
You mean you actually BUY the newspaper?
 
 
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Originally posted by El Tee:
   
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Washington Post  review (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48359-2004Apr3.html) of 9:30 Club show.
sign up req'd........ [/b]
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: eltee on April 07, 2004, 11:51:00 am
Thanks Bags!
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: mankie on April 07, 2004, 11:52:00 am
1000 people, why does that sign at the club entrance say maximum 630 people?
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Celeste on April 07, 2004, 11:56:00 am
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
 I mean, there is a TV add too, featuring a very old looking Bob.
I saw that add...it was kinda gross...
Title: Re: Dylan 4/2 @ 930
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 07, 2004, 12:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  1000 people, why does that sign at the club entrance say maximum 630 people?
I assume that's just for the main level.  I know there's another sign downstairs that says maximum 30 people (or something close to that).  There's probably yet another sign upstairs.