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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on March 31, 2004, 01:43:00 pm
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Okay, there are some obvious ones here on this board: Wilco, Billy Bragg and recently the loved/hated Death Cab for Cutie or Sleater-Kinney. Out in the real world, I'd say the Grateful Dead is #1.
These are the bands you either love or hate. It's just one or the other, and the mere mention of the band can provoke heated 'discussions' even among old friends.
List others, and let's see what happens. ;)
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Strokes, White Stripes, Hives, and that pesky word "Punk".
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I think you wanted the word divisive (not controversial):
Radiohead fans who like anything after Ok computer
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
"Punk".
I love Punk, but not the new stuff, I love the old school punk bands, like Green day.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
"Punk".
I love Punk, but not the new stuff, I love the old school punk bands, like Green day. [/b]
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
Obviously I agreed with "divisive..." Grazi
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Badly Drawn Boy.
I don't think other selection will cause controversy here - amongst my friends: Dave Matthews (Band).
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Well, I feel the Dead, whether you love or hate them, are an institution, and should be respected for that. However, Phish, for example, is the Devil! You can't not have an opinion on them. And in my case, you can't possibly hate them anymore than you already do.
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Originally posted by El Tee:
Badly Drawn Boy.
I don't think other selection will cause controversy here - amongst my friends: Dave Matthews (Band).
Aha -- I kind of lump Dave Matthews in with the Dead. But yeah, I can see it.
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And how could anyone not love badly drawn boy?
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
And how could anyone not love badly drawn boy?
There was quite a stir here when he came to town last time...maybe it was more about his on-stage presence though.
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Originally posted by redsock:
However, Phish, for example, is the Devil!
haha I was going to say Phish.
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the Darkness, for sure.
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Exit Clov
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Korn
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The Thrills
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There is no point just naming bands no-one likes.
I have never met a Korn fan, let alone a fan of any of those other bands.......
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R.E.M. (especially post-Green)
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Britpop.
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Seems like people either really love or hate Belle and Sebastian too. There's really no fine line there...you either like what they do or you don't. Personally, I think they're great.
I think back in high school it was really a battle of who liked metal vs. who liked hip-hop/rap. Then there was me, the lone freak who hated both and listened to the Pixies, the Stone Roses, Sugar, the Charlatans UK, etc. and got a ton of shit for it. I will never forget that there was a big angry fight one day about Vanilla Ice vs. 3rd Bass. Ha! I also remember the arguments that kids got into that were into Metallica and Megadeth vs. the kids into Black Sabbath. Then there was me...going to see the Jesus and Mary Chain w/Curve and Spiritualized. Sigh, those were fun days.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
There is no point just naming bands no-one likes.
I have never met a Korn fan, let alone a fan of any of those other bands.......
I like the Thrills. But you are right - we haven't met. ;)
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
There is no point just naming bands no-one likes.
I have never met a Korn fan, let alone a fan of any of those other bands.......
Hey, that just sparked a thought -- where the hell has flawd been?? Must be spring break, and his family's off to Disney.....
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Originally posted by chimblysweep:
R.E.M. (especially post-Green)
Really, you think people proactively dislike late R.E.M.? I think it's more a matter of thinking they no longer matter, "it's over," they're just mediochre. Not that I agree, but I haven't met the person who's vehement in hating those later albums...
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Britpop.
See, people say they hate Britpop, but likely have differing definitions of what is now an ever expanding descriptive 'genre.'
Radiohead, yes; britpop, I don't think so....
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Hmmmm, good topic. I know I express strong opinions, but the reality is I just like to overstate my point to get a bite out of you all.
HOWEVER!
Bands/performers I absolutely can not stand to listen to.
REM (early/recent, it doesn't matter)
Aerosmith
Van Halen
Nirvana
Any rap or hip-hop
most other heavy metal.
Bands/performers I think you must be a complete moron if don't absolutely love.
Bowie
Beautiful South
Waterboys
Pogues
Bands/performers I love but can understand why they wouldn't be everyones cuppa tea.
Smiths
BDB
Tom Waits
I'm sure there's more for each list, but I'm busy at work so my mind is all over the place at the mo'
(third edit in two minutes...can't be THAT busy!)
Bands/performers I can't stand but can understand why some would.
Foofighters
Metallica
Bruce Springboard...(good lyrics)
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what about Tom Jones :p
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
Bands/performers I think you must be a complete moron if don't absolutely love.
Bowie
Beautiful South
Waterboys
I'm finally going to get some Beautiful South from a friend and check 'em out. Will report back in...hell, in months with all I've got to listen to!
I don't understand how everyone doesn't love a bunch of bands I listen to....I'll listen to a perfect Jellyfish or Sloan song and think, "this is perfect."
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Bands/performers I can't stand but can understand why some would.
Foofighters
Metallica
Bruce Springboard...(good lyrics)
I appreciate that....though there are some FF songs I think are so blissful (not all, though, for everyone).
I don't like The Boss or the Stones, but I understand why folks love them. The Dead or Phish -- that I just don't get at all (though I do respect the Dead; however, their hardcore fans make me crazy).
Skeeter, just look the other way... :D
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speaking of divisive (and I know this topic has been done to death) but I just paid $41.50 for $24 worth of tickets to Sleater Kinney at the Recher Theatre - damn
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Other than Nirvana and early REM, I hate the bands on your hate list. I like the bands on your cuppa tea list and hate the bands on your moron list.
I guess that makes me a suicidal, bisexual, teabag loving moron.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Hmmmm, good topic. I know I express strong opinions, but the reality is I just like to overstate my point to get a bite out of you all.
HOWEVER!
Bands/performers I absolutely can not stand to listen to.
REM (early/recent, it doesn't matter)
Aerosmith
Van Halen
Nirvana
Any rap or hip-hop
most other heavy metal.
Bands/performers I think you must be a complete moron if don't absolutely love.
Bowie
Beautiful South
Waterboys
Bands/performers I love but can understand why they wouldn't be everyones cuppa tea.
Smiths
BDB
Tom Waits
I'm sure there's more for each list, but I'm busy at work so my mind is all over the place at the mo'
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We got tickets at the Recher box office, and they were $2 service charge each. And even worse, we got tickets at the Birchmere AT THE DOOR for a show Saturday night, and paid $3 service fee each.
Really makes me appreciate the Black Cat offering advance tickets with no service fee.
Originally posted by brennser:
speaking of divisive (and I know this topic has been done to death) but I just paid $41.50 for $24 worth of tickets to Sleater Kinney at the Recher Theatre - damn
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Originally posted by Bags:
The Dead or Phish -- that I just don't get at all (though I do respect the Dead; however, their hardcore fans make me crazy).
Skeeter, just look the other way... :)
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Originally posted by ballard:
[QB]
I guess that makes me a suicidal, bisexual, teabag loving moron.
You've always been that. :)
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Originally posted by Bags:
Really, you think people proactively dislike late R.E.M.? I think it's more a matter of thinking they no longer matter, "it's over," they're just mediochre. Not that I agree, but I haven't met the person who's vehement in hating those later albums...
Maybe that's the feeling among most people, but among the more hardcore REM fans, there's a huge divide over the post-Hi-Fi stuff. They either think it's wonderful, experimental music for the new century...or they think it's a bunch of self-indulgent, boring, listless crap and think REM should get off their asses and get back to their rock 'n' roll roots.
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
I'll be sure to give you a full report about tonight's Ratdog show though.
Last night's show was excellent. I've seen Phil's post-Dead band a couple of times, but I hadn't seen Bobby's until last night. Very pleasantly surprised.
Toots was, of course, masterful as always. He will be on SNL with Donald Trump this Saturday.
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Really, I find that fascinating...I just find the new stuff kind of boring, overly mellow, etc. But, because of that I have paid littel attention to it. Their last album is the first of theirs I didn't buy, but I don't listen much to albums after Green (I listen almost exclusively to Murmur, Reckoning and Fables, in fact...)
Originally posted by Skeeter:
Originally posted by Bags:
Really, you think people proactively dislike late R.E.M.? I think it's more a matter of thinking they no longer matter, "it's over," they're just mediochre. Not that I agree, but I haven't met the person who's vehement in hating those later albums...
Maybe that's the feeling among most people, but among the more hardcore REM fans, there's a huge divide over the post-Hi-Fi stuff. They either think it's wonderful, experimental music for the new century...or they think it's a bunch of self-indulgent, boring, listless crap and think REM should get off their asses and get back to their rock 'n' roll roots. [/b]
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K.I.S.S.
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I myself believe that Life's Rich Pageant is the best REM you can get. Yes, I hate them for their new stuff. I hate that you have to pay $50 to hear them play three good old songs and a boatload of drivel. I hate that they moved to NYC/Seattle. I especially hate Michael's self-righteous ranting. I mean, I agree with his politics, but his music was better when he wasn't political, you know?!
Originally posted by Bags:
Really, I find that fascinating...I just find the new stuff kind of boring, overly mellow, etc. But, because of that I have paid littel attention to it. Their last album is the first of theirs I didn't buy, but I don't listen much to albums after Green (I listen almost exclusively to Murmur, Reckoning and Fables, in fact...)
Originally posted by Skeeter:
Originally posted by Bags:
Really, you think people proactively dislike late R.E.M.? I think it's more a matter of thinking they no longer matter, "it's over," they're just mediochre. Not that I agree, but I haven't met the person who's vehement in hating those later albums...
Maybe that's the feeling among most people, but among the more hardcore REM fans, there's a huge divide over the post-Hi-Fi stuff. They either think it's wonderful, experimental music for the new century...or they think it's a bunch of self-indulgent, boring, listless crap and think REM should get off their asses and get back to their rock 'n' roll roots. [/b]
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REM's quality is directly proportional to release date. Chronic Town was brilliant and it's pretty much straight downhill from there, with Green being the last album worth listening to.
Stipe was best when he was cryptical and mumbling. The more clear his lyrics became, the more loathsome he became.
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This is out of topic.... I heard twangirl does the bookings for Fletchers, is this true?? if so, how can I PM her??
sorry to derail the topic, I know that's Rhett's territory...
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Originally posted by Fico:
This is out of topic.... I heard twangirl does the bookings for Fletchers, is this true?? if so, how can I PM her??
sorry to derail the topic, I know that's Rhett's territory...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
REM's quality is directly proportional to release date. Chronic Town was brilliant and it's pretty much straight downhill from there, with Green being the last album worth listening to.
Stipe was best when he was cryptical and mumbling. The more clear his lyrics became, the more loathsome he became.
Actually, I find the lyrics of "I Believe" to be quite poetic and beautiful... then again, i'm an activist type, so...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
Last night's show was excellent. I've seen Phil's post-Dead band a couple of times, but I hadn't seen Bobby's until last night. Very pleasantly surprised.
Good to hear. I'm really looking forward to it. After the crappy week I've had, I need a good night of dancin' to cheer me up a bit.
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Originally posted by Bags:
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I'm finally going to get some Beautiful South from a friend and check 'em out. Will report back in...hell, in months with all I've got to listen to!
I'm interested to find out what you think. You seem to be open minded so not like some other board members who just put them down because the old bloke of the board loves them.
It's all in the lyrics, he's a genius of a songwriter with typical English wit and sarcasm, which has probably been a part of the reason why they don't hit the bigtime this side of the Atlantic like at home....most doodles just won't get the point of the songs, which is understandable.
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Many thanks for the info Pollard... cheerios!!
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Merzbow. You either can't get enough (check out the Merzbox (http://www.forcedexposure.com/bin/search.pl?search_string=merzbox&searchfield=title) ) or you turn it off in milliseconds.
Just download something of his and try it. You'll see.
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U2
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Talking Heads
Pink Floyd
Pavement
and to weigh in with a little support for the Dead â?? ok, I know I'm a pigeonholed indie kid who should have no patience for a jam band BUT I don't have ADD and I love jazz so I've found myself with an honest-to-god collection of Dead shows...a truly great band. there, I said it.
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Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
Talking Heads
Tell me who doesn't like Stop Making Sense and I will kick his/her ass.
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Sure, Stop Making Sense was greatness when it came out, but seems like you'd have to be stuck in a time warp to still like it. It's just not timeless, classic music.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
Talking Heads
Tell me who doesn't like Stop Making Sense and I will kick his/her ass. [/b]
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
Talking Heads
Tell me who doesn't like Stop Making Sense and I will kick his/her ass. [/b]
I'm with you.
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But, I don't slag on Talking Heads....just don't dig 'em.
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Originally posted by Bags:
But, I don't slag on Talking Heads....just don't dig 'em.
hata!
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Not to change the subject but*
Coldplay.
(*The seasoned cast of loons will understand this.)
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
U2
you beat me to it!
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i have to disagree. i think most people's beef are not with the band, but with bono.
however, to continue the topic:
bob dylan
i personally cannot stand him.
i'd also add the entire scene that has come out of scandanavia and australia in the last couple years. that sort of post-punk crap.
Originally posted by Barcelona:
U2
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Nah, I have to agree with the U2 post. People tend to either hate them or love them. Of course, there are those who love the early U2 but find the later U2 a little insipid. And yes, then there are those who hate U2 for Bono, and all that goes with that. Basically, for all of the same reasons some people hate Coldplay.
Me, I hate U2 but like Coldplay. :roll:
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In my case, I hate U2's music so much that I haven't been interested to read about any of the four musicians. However, if Bono works on environmental and human rights issues as I have sometimes heard, then he has all my respect. It is their music that I can't stand.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Nah, I have to agree with the U2 post. People tend to either hate them or love them. Of course, there are those who love the early U2 but find the later U2 a little insipid. And yes, then there are those who hate U2 for Bono, and all that goes with that. Basically, for all of the same reasons some people hate Coldplay.
Me, I hate U2 but like Coldplay. :roll:
for me, vice versa. U2, although I don't particularily love them, are an unquestionably important band (and War is a great album). Coldplay, on the other hand, are just sort of boring â?? not, I don't think, a common reason to hate U2.
And Lily, have you really listened to Dylan? Most of his best work is just simple folk, or rock and roll with strikingly brilliant lyrics. I mean, what's not to like about Like A Rolling Stone?
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Originally posted by lily1:
that sort of post-punk crap.
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you mean that sort of garage-rock crap.
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U2's "Boy" through "The Joshua Tree" are fantastic albums and I still listen to them. Bono, no Bono, whatever. There's great music there....
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Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
I don't think, a common reason to hate U2.
Oddly, that's exactly why I don't like U2. Actually, that was why I always disliked U2. It was the pompous Bononess and, in my opinion, their over-rateness that made it advance to hate.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
I don't think, a common reason to hate U2.
Oddly, that's exactly why I don't like U2. Actually, that was why I always disliked U2. It was the pompous Bononess and, in my opinion, their over-rateness that made it advance to hate. [/b]
fair enough. still don't see how coldplay can be enthralling if U2 is worthy of the big yawn, though...
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What can I say? That's why I included the " :roll: " in my original post.
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U2 IMHO went downhill with the release of "Live at Red Rocks" and recovered a bit with Acthung Baby. LARR marks the point where the band become Bono & U2. AB, Zoopra, and Pop all get dismissed by "hardcore" U2 fans because they don't sound like Joshua Tree. Shame on U2 for wanting to experiment a little, try a different sound. I'm sure even the Edge was getting tired of his guitar sound. Of course the last record was hearled as a return to the Joshua Tree, which of course meant is dull as dishwater.... "like a mole digging in a hole" :roll:
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umm i like korn and a lot of those bands they named...im kind of confused haha
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gbv, at least here.
modest mouse
i think u2 suffers from over exposure. strokes and white stripes too. especially the 'stripes, i like their music, but i want to punch jack white these days. why anyone would take the effort to diss the beautiful south is beyond me.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
gbv, at least here.
Only here because the rest of the world just ignores them.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Only here because the rest of the world just ignores them.
yeah us and all the people who bought tickets to their sold out show at the bowery ballroom april 24th
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Only here because the rest of the world just ignores them.
yeah us and all the people who bought tickets to their sold out show at the bowery ballroom april 24th [/b]
you know what. . just ignore barcelona, he doesn't offer anything substantial to most of the discussions on this board anyway.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
you know what. . just ignore barcelona, he doesn't offer anything substantial to most of the discussions on this board anyway.
i know he is just joking around
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here's one...
Bright Eyes
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
here's one...
Bright Eyes
blech.... ;)
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The Cure
Depeche Mode
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
here's one...
Bright Eyes
blech.... ;) [/b]
*swoon*
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Britpop.
See, people say they hate Britpop, but likely have differing definitions of what is now an ever expanding descriptive 'genre.'
Radiohead, yes; britpop, I don't think so.... [/b]
Good point. So many people have differing concepts of what entails "Brit Pop". To some, it's basically all British alternative from the 80s up till now; others see it as something more specific to the 90s that refer to the more commerical U.K. alt stuff (Oasis & Charlatans for example), and then some people lump all 90s & 21st century U.K. alt/indie under the "Brit Pop" category (so by that rationale, The Delgados would also be Brit Pop). It does seem strange that Oasis & Radiohead would be considered part of the same genre---You'd be hard pressed to find two bands that are more further apart...
Anyway, I think The Smiths are quite a polarizing band. I've only met people who have strong feelings either way---nobody just says they were "okay."
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Originally posted by friend of Guy Chadwick:
Anyway, I think The Smiths are quite a polarizing band. I've only met people who have strong feelings either way---nobody just says they were "okay."
I agree; I got in a big email argument over the Smiths, and the disparager felt so strongly because he thinks the Smiths have been SO overrated. Hence, rather than not giving them a second thought, he was a bit more proactive in not liking them. Poor schmo.... :D
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Only here because the rest of the world just ignores them.
yeah us and all the people who bought tickets to their sold out show at the bowery ballroom april 24th [/b]
you know what. . just ignore barcelona, he doesn't offer anything substantial to most of the discussions on this board anyway. [/b]
i put the 'here at least' on there because i've never so much hipster backlash against bob & co as i have here. i mean, i can see the reluctance to embrace the audiofarts (which, gross as it sounds is half the fun), but the catch songs usually get positive responses.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
I'm interested to find out what you think. You seem to be open minded so not like some other board members who just put them down because the old bloke of the board loves them.
It's all in the lyrics, he's a genius of a songwriter with typical English wit and sarcasm, which has probably been a part of the reason why they don't hit the bigtime this side of the Atlantic like at home....most doodles just won't get the point of the songs, which is understandable. [/qb]
What do you think about Housemartins?
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Originally posted by Bollocks:
I'm interested to find out what you think. You seem to be open minded so not like some other board members who just put them down because the old bloke of the board loves them.
It's all in the lyrics, he's a genius of a songwriter with typical English wit and sarcasm, which has probably been a part of the reason why they don't hit the bigtime this side of the Atlantic like at home....most doodles just won't get the point of the songs, which is understandable. [/b]
What do you think about Housemartins? [/QB]
I think Mankies on the record as loving The Housemartins - useless piece of trivia - London 0 - Hull 4 was the first album I ever bought - at the Virgin Megastore in Dublin on a school trip
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I think it might have been brought up earlier, but Oasis. (One of my favorites).
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They Might Be Giants!!
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Bob Dylan
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Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Originally posted by Bollocks:
I'm interested to find out what you think. You seem to be open minded so not like some other board members who just put them down because the old bloke of the board loves them.
It's all in the lyrics, he's a genius of a songwriter with typical English wit and sarcasm, which has probably been a part of the reason why they don't hit the bigtime this side of the Atlantic like at home....most doodles just won't get the point of the songs, which is understandable. [/b]
What do you think about Housemartins? [/b]
I think Mankies on the record as loving The Housemartins - useless piece of trivia - London 0 - Hull 4 was the first album I ever bought - at the Virgin Megastore in Dublin on a school trip [/QB]
The record is indeed correct. :)
I personally prefer The people who grinned themselves to death over London 0 - Hull 4.
I wonder how many younger board members know who Fatboy Slim is?
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
I wonder how many younger board members know who Fatboy Slim is?
i'm in my mid-20's (ok, 25, you got me) does that make me younger?
cuz we used to listen to Fatboy Slim while tripping in college. (I recall some track with the lyrics "fatboy slim is fucking in heaven. fucking in fucking in fucking in heaven.")
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I'm 36, and from this board I've learned that Fatboy Slim is a dj who charges $40 so you can hear him spin records.
He was also in the Housemartins, a good band from the 80's who sound really, really dated these days.
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Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
I'm 36, and from this board I've learned that Fatboy Slim is a dj who charges $40 so you can hear him spin records.
He was also in the Housemartins, a good band from the 80's who sound really, really dated these days.
36 years old is NOT younger Rhett!
But thanks for spoiling the quiz though.
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Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
He was also in the Housemartins, a good band from the 80's who sound really, really dated these days.
Holy Crap. I didn't know that. I need to go pull out that album.
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i see your Fatboy Slim and raise you Pizzaman, Mighty Dub Kats, Beats International, Freakpower, and i'm sure there are others. I could spin a whole evening of Norman Cook related projects and remixes.
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
He was also in the Housemartins, a good band from the 80's who sound really, really dated these days.
Holy Crap. I didn't know that. I need to go pull out that album. [/b]
That's why I asked the question, but thanks to blabber-gob the Friday fun was killed.