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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: K8teebug on September 13, 2006, 10:05:00 am
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I got on their site today exactly when they went on sale and still didn't get tickets.
This sucks.
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Sure does.
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I would just like to see if anyone got them to eliminate the possibility its a technical glitch.
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I was on at 10 and didn't get them either...must be some kind of problem.
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same BS for me
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Same problem.
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Wilco world presal sold out.....
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Originally posted by leedr:
Wilco world presal sold out.....
When?
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I think everyone had the same issue. I, too, was on right at 10am and nothing available not even ONE ticket.
really, really annoying.... :mad:
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This blows.
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i got 4. no technical glitches.
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when?
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930 club posted a note on the website last week saying presale was sold out. Can only assume they meant the wilcotickets presale.
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no that was the private presale
anybody else have any luck?
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No luck for me either. When does the reglr public sale start?
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Count your blessings. For the $40+ you're saving on your Wilco ticket, you can see three great shows at Iota or Black Cat.
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Originally posted by zizenga:
No luck for me either. When does the reglr public sale start?
on sale tomorrow at 10 am!
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The show isn't listed on the clubs website, the tickets.com site, or ticketmaster. What gives? Where should I look tomorrow morning?
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wow, sounds like the wilcotickets presale blew chunks.
the 930 presale was a breeze, took a good 15 minutes to sell out so everyone who was there on time had a chance to grab tickets... recommendation: sign up for the monthly "volume" flyer (hit the "mailing list" link on the 930 homepage)
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Damnit, I didn't even try to get any tickets and I still couldn't get any!!!!!!!!!!!
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wilco's new material sux.
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public sale has begun!
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After a couple very scary minutes, I got my tickets.
I only had to hit refresh a couple hundred times.
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Got my 2!
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that presale was complete bogus - unless you had to actually be at the club to purchase or something? i couldn't do it online and said something about having to be a special member or some BS. only hope the same doesn't happen for The Decemberists show... :mad:
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The site kept saying that it couldn't sell me two. So I put in 1 twice and it allowed that.
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The Decemberists shows have been on sale for a while now on tickets.com ..maybe for the last 4 weeks? :)
Originally posted by Cougar:
that presale was complete bogus - unless you had to actually be at the club to purchase or something? i couldn't do it online and said something about having to be a special member or some BS. only hope the same doesn't happen for The Decemberists show... :mad:
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Done and done. Sold out.
Jerks.
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That's how ticket.com can stick you twice instead of once on the extra charges, right?
Originally posted by floyd:
The site kept saying that it couldn't sell me two. So I put in 1 twice and it allowed that.
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Cougar, go to www.tickets.com (http://www.tickets.com)
and type decemberists
You should be able to see the links to buy.
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Yes, something is definitely fishy here. This show wasn't even on the 9:30 Club schedule until this morning. It reminds me of something that happened at Iota once. I can't recall the band, but they advertised a show that was essentially just for biz folks -- other club owners, shyster ticket sellers like tickets.com, p.r. people, record biz people from NYC, etc. Fans who showed up to get in were essentially locked out. People were so mad the Iota mgt. they agreed not to do it again.
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, something is definitely fishy here. This show wasn't even on the 9:30 Club schedule until this morning.
which show are you talking about - wilco or decemberists? info for both bands has been posted in the "Just Announced" thread, and the Volume newsletter, for some time now.
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BoomBoom is suggesting that tickets.com is some sort of shyster ticket site...i dunno what to think about that...why doesn't 930 list the show on their schedule?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, something is definitely fishy here. This show wasn't even on the 9:30 Club schedule until this morning.
which show are you talking about - wilco or decemberists? info for both bands was posted in the "Just Announced" thread, and the Volume newsletter, for some time now. [/b]
I think the fact that the Wilco show didn't even show up on the front page until several minutes *after* the 10am public onsale began is what BoomBoom's getting at. In fact, I don't think it even popped up on the front page until after Servo posted that it had sold out.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The show was not listed on the tickets.com site under the Wilco or the 9:30 Club threads, either. For all of Wilco's posturing about how it's doing everything for the fans, this sure looks odd. It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand.
Can someone clarify the "pre-sale" of Wilco tickets at the club and some sort of special mailing list you had to be on to get notice of that. If that's true, it's typical 9:30 Club elitism. It's sad how much credibility the club has lost since becoming "successful." Bands that helped the 9:30 Club make a name for itself in the old days -- X, etc. -- would never have tolerated such bull.
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It's not like you have to be "elite" to get on the freaking mailing list. All you have to do is sign up, free of charge. They even let a doofus like me on the list.
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The show was not listed on the tickets.com site under the Wilco or the 9:30 Club threads, either. For all of Wilco's posturing about how it's doing everything for the fans, this sure looks odd. It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand.
Can someone clarify the "pre-sale" of Wilco tickets at the club and some sort of special mailing list you had to be on to get notice of that. If that's true, it's typical 9:30 Club elitism. It's sad how much credibility the club has lost since becoming "successful." Bands that helped the 9:30 Club make a name for itself in the old days -- X, etc. -- would never have tolerated such bull.
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I didn't get a bagel today, even though a kind office-mate brought them in this morning. Typical lunchroom elitism.
YAWN.
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The show was not listed on the tickets.com site under the Wilco or the 9:30 Club threads, either. For all of Wilco's posturing about how it's doing everything for the fans, this sure looks odd. It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand.
Can someone clarify the "pre-sale" of Wilco tickets at the club and some sort of special mailing list you had to be on to get notice of that. If that's true, it's typical 9:30 Club elitism. It's sad how much credibility the club has lost since becoming "successful." Bands that helped the 9:30 Club make a name for itself in the old days -- X, etc. -- would never have tolerated such bull.
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The show was not listed on the tickets.com site under the Wilco or the 9:30 Club threads, either. For all of Wilco's posturing about how it's doing everything for the fans, this sure looks odd. It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand.
Can someone clarify the "pre-sale" of Wilco tickets at the club and some sort of special mailing list you had to be on to get notice of that. If that's true, it's typical 9:30 Club elitism. It's sad how much credibility the club has lost since becoming "successful." Bands that helped the 9:30 Club make a name for itself in the old days -- X, etc. -- would never have tolerated such bull.
Presales generally only involve a very small fraction of the available tickets.
The basic problem is too much demand, I suspect driven by people in other cities scooping up the tickets to scalp them later.
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- the september Volume newsletter described Wilco's date as a "secret subscriber show". so there is some chance that it was kept secret on purpose. 930 is good that way - rewarding regulars with certain shows. sorry you missed out.
- softsales: go to tickets.com, search for "930", and you can see all shows on sale, both soft and hard. check in regularly or sign up for e-mail list on 930 homepage.
- tickets.com are hucksters? i don't think so. my complaints are that they're generally as expensive as ticketmaster, and they just can't handle peak traffic. I kept getting the "We're sorry, we were unable to process your request due to high transaction volumes. Please try to submit your request again" message... so it's not that there weren't tickets, it's the the system was maxed out and couldn't sell me any. lame.
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Blame yourself for not being on top of things.
There are a lot of Wilco threads on this board during the 2 presales.
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The show was not listed on the tickets.com site under the Wilco or the 9:30 Club threads, either. For all of Wilco's posturing about how it's doing everything for the fans, this sure looks odd. It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand.
Can someone clarify the "pre-sale" of Wilco tickets at the club and some sort of special mailing list you had to be on to get notice of that. If that's true, it's typical 9:30 Club elitism. It's sad how much credibility the club has lost since becoming "successful." Bands that helped the 9:30 Club make a name for itself in the old days -- X, etc. -- would never have tolerated such bull.
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I rarely even pay attention to the main page anymore. If you want to know what's coming, just go to tickets.com. You can see all the shows that are on soft-sale, cancellations, what's going on sale Thursday...pretty much everything you need regarding tickets.
Or sign up for the weekly email. It's one lousy email per week and you hear about everything that's going on, including upcoming sales and the occasional presale password.
Getting tickets for big shows can be difficult. Getting info on big shows is incredibly easy.
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I am on the mailing list. I don't recall seeing any mention of Wilco in any recent club mailings. I admit I may have missed it. That's all I'm asking.
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Despite 9:30's so-called "elitism", and my lack of connection with the club, I have always gotten tickets to the shows I want. I repeat, not once have I missed getting tickets.
The 9:30 Club is not trying to screw anyone over. They simply reward people who regularly read their mailings and website (aka music fans).
If there is any flaw in the system it is tickets.com inability to deal with high traffic. It is a shame getting tickets isn't first come-first serve and that you have to resort to hitting the refresh button. However, anyone with a bit of dedication would have gotten tickets to the show. I got two at 10:02 and two more at 10:12.
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Originally posted by allmy$to930:
Despite 9:30's so-called "elitism", and my lack of connection with the club, I have always gotten tickets to the shows I want. I repeat, not once have I missed getting tickets.
The 9:30 Club is not trying to screw anyone over. They simply reward people who regularly read their mailings and website (aka music fans).
If there is any flaw in the system it is tickets.com inability to deal with high traffic. It is a shame getting tickets isn't first come-first serve and that you have to resort to hitting the refresh button. However, anyone with a bit of dedication would have gotten tickets to the show. I got two at 10:02 and two more at 10:12.
That's cuz you have 9:30 in your handle. It gives you special advantages. I was refreshing from 10:01 until sellout and couldn't even get one. Thems the breaks though.
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"It was easier to get Pogues tickets, and Wilco, while good, is hardly as legendary or in demand."
Well they did sell out in minuetes :roll:
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
I am on the mailing list. I don't recall seeing any mention of Wilco in any recent club mailings. I admit I may have missed it. That's all I'm asking.
Wasn't it in last night's email? I could be wrong about that. I just scanned through it and already deleted it.
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Thank you, oh erudite music fan. But there was nothing on the 9:30 Club Web site about the Wilco show until the tickets went on sale. It's a poor way to treat customers in any case. In the good ol' days you didn't have to worry about surprise shows or wait for club owners to pet you on the head like a good doggie for reading their ads. I can't believe how masochistic some self-described music fans are. It's like you love to be kicked.
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Information about the Wilco show was in e-mails and snail mails from the 9:30 club. It was on Wilco's site. It was on the Tickets.com site also. There were two pre-sales before the general sale. Some people need personal invitations with detailed instructions I guess.
And for all the bitching about tickets.com (some of it justified), they do get bonus points for refunding the both the ticket price and the service charge on the cancelled/postponed Sleater-Kinney gig.
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From last nights email...
Just Announced shows at the 9:30 Club
Th 10/19 Wilco 4 Ticket Limit
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You're complaining because people who 1) pay attention to the club's ads, 2) do their homework online regarding when a band is coming around and when ticket go on sale, and 3) are regular posters on a message board where presales, ticket sale dates and tour dates are regularly discussed got tickets?
Don't be a sourpuss that people that put time into finding this out were able to get tickets. They put time into finding the details, they should be rewarded.
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Thank you, oh erudite music fan. But there was nothing on the 9:30 Club Web site about the Wilco show until the tickets went on sale. It's a poor way to treat customers in any case. In the good ol' days you didn't have to worry about surprise shows or wait for club owners to pet you on the head like a good doggie for reading their ads. I can't believe how masochistic some self-described music fans are. It's like you love to be kicked.
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The Wilco show was absolutely not advertised on the tickets.com site. Bottom line: pre-sales suck. Just sell the damn tickets all at once so people with real lives -- i.e., not checking the 9:30 Club or Wilco Web site obsessively -- can get tickets.
Bye-bye from BoomBoom.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
That's how ticket.com can stick you twice instead of once on the extra charges, right?
Originally posted by floyd:
The site kept saying that it couldn't sell me two. So I put in 1 twice and it allowed that.
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Probably. They got an extra $4 out of me.
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Seriously the club has been running soft sales for months now, if your not paying attention to the weekly email thats your lost. Shows are always posted on the website when they go on sale, unless its being done via soft sale. On rare occasions there are shows announced before they go on sale in Volume, but the club rarely says weeks in advane such on such goes on sale today. Obviously soft sales are a different story but they are practice which have only been going on for about a year now....
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Back on...can't let go. Emails, soft sales, pre-sales, passwords. What a hassle. What's the point? Is going to a show supposed to be like a getting a cheap airline ticket? You have to be frequent flyer or something? That's lame.
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Soft sales are a good thing...it rewards us for being pathetic nerds that hang out on a venue's message board every day.
Serioulsy, keep them coming and keep rewarding the really devoted fans.
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In the old days people had to rely on reading about a show when it was advertised in a print ad, flyer or mentioned on the radio, it's not like the club or bands were making personally phone calls to every fan that might be interested in seeing the show.
Prior to introduction of soft sales, all new 9:30 shows were annouced on the website to the general public the day tickets went on sale. Which by the way occurs 9 times out of 10 on a Thrusday. A weekly email is now sent out Weds annoucing any new shows. Bands provide tour dates to fans via web, email, etc. Pollstar and other websites have concert information available.
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Devoted fan or slavish sycophant?
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Plenty of other venues with good shows that don't do it. Give your business to them.
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Back on...can't let go. Emails, soft sales, pre-sales, passwords. What a hassle. What's the point? Is going to a show supposed to be like a getting a cheap airline ticket? You have to be frequent flyer or something? That's lame.
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What would've been your excuse if you had slept outside of a Ticketmaster outlet and still got shut out? What about trying on the phone lines? Just curious...
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Back on...can't let go. Emails, soft sales, pre-sales, passwords. What a hassle. What's the point? Is going to a show supposed to be like a getting a cheap airline ticket? You have to be frequent flyer or something? That's lame.
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Man, I miss the good old days. I wish I could've gotten up at 4:00 AM to sit out in the rain for six hours in front of a mall to get tickets. You people and your computers and electronic mail stuff suck.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Man, I miss the good old days. I wish I could've gotten up at 4:00 AM to sit out in the rain for six hours in front of a mall to get tickets. You people and your computers and electronic mail stuff suck.
I actually enjoyed some of those days.
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I have no problem not getting tickets to any show that is fairly sold. But when you have to worry about how many tickets are being sold to self-described "devoted fans," "friends of the club" and otherwise on the sly, it's just galling.
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And I have been taking more and more of my business to other clubs. I've rarely encountered a place that treats its customers more shabbily than the 9:30 Club.
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Originally posted by floyd:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Man, I miss the good old days. I wish I could've gotten up at 4:00 AM to sit out in the rain for six hours in front of a mall to get tickets. You people and your computers and electronic mail stuff suck.
I actually enjoyed some of those days. [/b]
But no matter how hard I tried there was always a scalper and his posse in front of me... How little things have actually changed :D
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I always love this line. We'll see you next big ticket sale!
DOUBLE YAWN!!
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
And I have been taking more and more of my business to other clubs. I've rarely encountered a place that treats its customers more shabbily than the 9:30 Club.
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
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Ciao, 9:30 Club employees. It's been nice chatting this morning.
Boom-Boom over and out. See you at the Wilco show. (I'll be on the guest list!)
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Back on...can't let go. Emails, soft sales, pre-sales, passwords. What a hassle. What's the point? Is going to a show supposed to be like a getting a cheap airline ticket? You have to be frequent flyer or something? That's lame.
I devised a strategy to get tickets that worked. I logged onto tickets.com, typed in Wilco, and then bought tickets. While somewhat of a hassle, it was easier than waiting in line at the Club.
I'm not an economist, but its my understanding that the Club is relatively small and due to certain unnegotiable physical laws, management is forced to sell a finite number of tickets for shows. As such, it has put into place much appreciated tactics to reward "fans" of the Club, as bands often reward their fans. Its my opinion that it wasn't the system but rather user error that screwed this up for you. Get over it.
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All 930 employees posting in this thread raise your hands? Mine will stay down as I'm only a volunteer moderator/admin here and occasionally DJ at the club and not considered an actual employee...
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
See you at the Wilco show. (I'll be on the guest list!)
so you were complaining just to hear your self talk. awesome
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No, it's the system. When half or more of the tickets are gone before a show is even "officially" announced, that plum sucks. I've participated in pre-sales and gotten tickets for shows after not participating in pre-sales. But it still bothers me as a fan that the 9:30 Club, and some bands, want people to jump through these extra hoops just to go to a show.
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I'm shocked that I got 4. To the person above who said that they've never been shut out from buying tickets to any show at 930 it happens to me all the time. In fact this is the first time that I'll be seeing Wilco at 930 because every other time I've tried to buy presale tix or when they go onsale to the general public (refreshing at tickets.com every 5 seconds until 10am) I've never gotten them and it's happened much more than just Wilco shows. Like I said, I'm shocked that I got any tickets. I was prepared to be pissed off again.
It's a problem that's great to bitch about but it would be better if someone had a solution on how to actually get tix at 10am for a show.
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
When half or more of the tickets are gone before a show is even "officially" announced, that plum sucks.
"Half or more" of the tickets were gone?
From where did you get that information?
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
I am on the mailing list. I don't recall seeing any mention of Wilco in any recent club mailings. I admit I may have missed it. That's all I'm asking.
Wasn't it in last night's email? I could be wrong about that. I just scanned through it and already deleted it. [/b]
I found it in the newsletter mailed to my home. Didn't see it announced for sale again until the email yesterday.
Just note there are two lists: a newsletter via snail mail, and an email mailing list.
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
No, it's the system. When half or more of the tickets are gone before a show is even "officially" announced, that plum sucks. I've participated in pre-sales and gotten tickets for shows after not participating in pre-sales. But it still bothers me as a fan that the 9:30 Club, and some bands, want people to jump through these extra hoops just to go to a show.
If it makes you feel any better, the show was listed in the Express this morning.
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Originally posted by mbvfan:
Like I said, I'm shocked that I got any tickets. I was prepared to be pissed off again.
It's a problem that's great to bitch about but it would be better if someone had a solution on how to actually get tix at 10am for a show.
Maybe people were luckier this time since so many seem to have missed the 9:30 pre-sale announcement in the newsletter. Perhaps the recent holiday mucked up mail delivery.
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
No, it's the system. When half or more of the tickets are gone before a show is even "officially" announced, that plum sucks. I've participated in pre-sales and gotten tickets for shows after not participating in pre-sales. But it still bothers me as a fan that the 9:30 Club, and some bands, want people to jump through these extra hoops just to go to a show.
If it makes you feel any better, the show was listed in the Express this morning. [/b]
what was the word the person used that got all bent out of shape when something was announced via Volume... treemail or treeware possibly?
his rant was basically he had no use for any type of communication that came printed on paper, it's was to be all electronic or nothing..
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Originally posted by mbvfan:
I'm shocked that I got 4. To the person above who said that they've never been shut out from buying tickets to any show at 930 it happens to me all the time.
Really? All the time? Most shows aren't instant sellouts. Even the ones that go fairly quickly aren't that hard, if you can sit there and just keep trying to an hour or so.
That being said, there are a few shows that are always really hard to get tickets for. Wilco included.
It's a problem that's great to bitch about but it would be better if someone had a solution on how to actually get tix at 10am for a show.
There is no "solution". If 5000 people want tickets to a 1000 seat club - 80% are going to be shutout. There's no way to "fix" that. You just have to be there at 10:00, be persistent and cross your fingers.
Congrats on getting tickets. Wilco is always a tough one. But as you can see - it's not impossible.
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"Pre-sales" are hardly a new phenomenon. Anyone who saw the Dead back in the day probably remembers calling 1-800-whatever-it-was and getting all the info about mail-order dates; listing your first and second choices; sase; etc....
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I got tix this morning. Fortunate...
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It's a problem that's great to bitch about but it would be better if someone had a solution on how to actually get tix at 10am for a show. [/QB]
solution: improve ticket.com's ability to deal with a 10:00 AM surge - more servers, more bandwidth, more reliable back-end software, etc. not much we can do. until that happens, be prepared to read "We're sorry, we were unable to process your request due to high transaction volumes. Please try to submit your request again." and don't say it can't be done - ticketmaster can handle much higher spikes, effectively.
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Congrats to BoomBoom!
You win the award for "D-Bag Crybaby of the Month!"
Oh, and no one here honestly believes that you'll be on the guest list, so just stop...
By the way, with three seperate sales, everyone I know with half a brain who wanted tickets got them.
Good work, jackass.
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FYI those message are tickets.com way of handling high volumes... If you are seeing that message it mostly likely means that the show is already sold out. Remember it only takes a few hundred orders to be place before the show sells out. If tickets.com continued to let people attempt to order what isn't available there would be problems with lost orders etc..
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Hey, at least DCist didn't spill the pre-sale password.
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kosmo, i'd be cool with that if it wasn't for the fact that people (including myself) have managed to get tickets after getting that message. this tells me that the system can't handle the volume, and lets new people buy once capacity is available again...
if the message i quoted was their way of saying it's sold out - why not just say "sold out"?
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Not true. When you get this message, it means you need to hit the back button and try again..and you'll get tickets :) That's from experience.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
FYI those message are tickets.com way of handling high volumes... If you are seeing that message it mostly likely means that the show is already sold out. Remember it only takes a few hundred orders to be place before the show sells out. If tickets.com continued to let people attempt to order what isn't available there would be problems with lost orders etc..
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maybe what i'm thinking about is the virtual waiting room that gets created once in awhile... part of the problem is sure tickets.com could put in all the server power and bandwidth is order to facilitate the smooth instant sellout of a show, but it would be costly to do so and result in ticket fees going up, especially if it's sittting there unused 95% of the time.
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Congrats to BoomBoom!
You win the award for "D-Bag Crybaby of the Month!"
Oh, and no one here honestly believes that you'll be on the guest list, so just stop...
By the way, with three seperate sales, everyone I know with half a brain who wanted tickets got them.
Good work, jackass.
Anyone with a half a brain....Well, you're living proof of that. Like I said, I will be at the show. Even if I'd got a ticket this morning, I'd still be disgusted about the lousy pre-sale/sale system.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by BoomBoom:
When half or more of the tickets are gone before a show is even "officially" announced, that plum sucks.
"Half or more" of the tickets were gone?
From where did you get that information? [/b]
That's the problem, isn't it? Nobody knows how many tickets they sell in advance. Could be 90% for all you or I know.
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Nobody knows how many tickets they sell in advance. Could be 90% for all you or I know.
Or 1% for all you know.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
solution: improve ticket.com's ability to deal with a 10:00 AM surge - more servers, more bandwidth, more reliable back-end software, etc. not much we can do. until that happens, be prepared to read "We're sorry, we were unable to process your request due to high transaction volumes. Please try to submit your request again." and don't say it can't be done - ticketmaster can handle much higher spikes, effectively.
But this really just translates to "There are already 1000 or so people in line already. Come back later." If you're getting this messsage, there are already a lot of people successfully connected and buying tickets. For a venue the size of 9:30, that pretty much means it's already sold out.
Even if the servers worked perfectly, you'd probably just get the "There are no tickets available" message instead.
UPDATE: or wait - are you saying you already put in your order and it got rejected after the fact? That's bad - there's no excuse for that.
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I think there's only one possible solution:
Each band should call everyone in a particular area prior to tickets going on sale, using some complicated series of tests and equations to determine, ordered by how dedicated the fan is, what place you get in the online waiting room.
That way, we won't have people like sweetcell crying about bandwidth and servers, like BoomBoom crying that he didn't know about the three potentials sales that were available, or like everyone else complaining that "real fans" don't get tickets. It's the only way.
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Or just put the tickets in random cereal boxes.
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If you all are such big fans, just get tix to see them in Morgantown on the 18th..as far as I know they are still available and it's not too far of a drive.
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the best solution to this problem. if tix sell out in seconds a bigger venue should be used.
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the best solution to this problem. if tix sell out in seconds a bigger venue should be used.
...or charge $100 per ticket. You should be thankful that 9:30 Club/Wilco doesn't sell the tickets for more. They were well aware this show would sell out immediately for $35 a piece and clearly could have demanded more.
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Did anyone else read BooBoo's thread from last year in which he lamented having to pay a $1.00 service charge and $2.70 for a metrocard in order to buy tickets from the box office?
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i don't understand the people who frequent the 930 club.
every single time a big show comes through, regardless of whether its super hyped before the sale or a secret show, people bitch and moan when they don't get tickets.
here's the deal, people.
it's not fucking 1984 anymore. with a few exceptions, you don't stand in line for hours at the venue hoping to get your hands on tickets. you don't find out about shows 2 weeks ahead of time through local radio DJ. its the age of the internet. underground music like wilco is much more accessible to the average fan than it was 10 or even 5 years ago; so therefore, all these underground bands have a lot bigger fanbanse, and more people want to see them live.
because of that, you need to stay on top of the game. you can call it being a nerd, a dork, an idiot, whatever you want, but the bottom line comes down to this:
if spending an hour a day reading music news, the 930 club message board, and tickets.com makes me a nerd, but puts me through the doors on show night and leaves you out in the cold, that's a name i'll wear with pride.
you can bitch and complain about "pre-sales suck", "tickets.com blows," "i hate brokers," but really, the only person you have to blame is yourself. this argument comes up every SINGLE time a big name comes through, and the people who don't get tickets always find somebody else to blame.
stop blaming everybody else. we're sick of hearing about it.
i'd say 75% of this message board successfully got tickets. this is because they knew when (BOTH!!) pre-sales occured, and they knew that if you get on tickets.com at 10:04 and expect to get tickets, well, you're probably riding the shorter bus home from work today.
my best advice, if you keep up with sales and when things are happening, and still didn't get tickets, is become more familiar with tickets.com. there are a lot of tips, tricks, and other things that help you gain even a second's advantage over somebody else, which could be the difference between buying tickets on eay or buying them for face value. learn the ins and outs of tickets.com.
here's one: just because the system says "there are no tickets available to fit your request" at 10:01, doesn't mean tickets are sold out. it means all the tickets are being held by potential buyers...which probably 1 out of every 10 will be thrown back into the system, either due to changing their mind, time running out, falty credit card, etc. every single time a huge show has gone on sale for 930 and "sold out in seconds," i've pushed my way through and pulled tickets several minutes, sometimes even as late as 20 minutes later. be persistent.
but above all, quit bitching. quit blaming the club, quit blaming the band for "not caring about their fans because its not will call only," quit blaming tickets.com. and quit saying that if a show sells out in seconds, that means the venue is too big. no, it doesn't. because wilco couldn't fill half of merriweather. and i'd rather play a sold out show in an intimate atmosphere than play a bigger venue and have the place half full.
sorry. i'm rambling. but my point..just stop bitching. my ears are bleeding.
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UPDATE: or wait - are you saying you already put in your order and it got rejected after the fact? That's bad - there's no excuse for that.
while that has happened to me (foo fighters - got to address & credit card page, hit "submit order", got a "too busy" page & lost my order), i was talking about getting the "too busy" message once - which someone thought actually meant "sold out" - then later being able to get a ticket. not complaining here, just clarifying the question.
That way, we won't have people like sweetcell crying about bandwidth and servers
certaily not crying about it. sorry if i sounded whiny, i was in fact trying to make a constructive suggestion. guess we're not used to that around here... :)
k, i've had enough of this. no more from me. sorry.
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I actually have a clue, been a fan of Tweedy since UT, but I still didn't get tickets. even after logging on yesterday AND today and hitting refresh multiple times. I'm a little annoyed but if I really want to go I'll find a ticket. from what I've seen and what I've been told, NO show is ever completely sold out. night of show, you could walk up and take a ticket off someone's hands who at the last minute had an extra or two. At the very least I could use the money I didn't spend to see two or three other shows on a much smaller stage.
anyhow, what I'm most curious about and now less confused is that there's a SNAIL mail newsletter. I thought I never got the email in regards to the pre-sale from last week (and no I don't read the boards here every single day...oh the horror!!).
but if 9:30 wants to email me and spend money mailing a paper newsletter, so be it....at least now i know!!
:D
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Did anyone else read BooBoo's thread from last year in which he lamented having to pay a $1.00 service charge and $2.70 for a metrocard in order to buy tickets from the box office?
Please, don't misquote me. I was complaining about the 20% markup charged by tickets.compost, not the $1 service charge. It was a ripoff then, it's a ripoff now -- i.e., Golden Smog tickets aren't really $25. They're $31 with the markup. Twenty-percent, and still they can't invest in a system that handles a lot of requests.
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9:30 Club sends out an email every Wednesday...FUCKING READ IT! :roll:
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Originally posted by BoomBoom:
Golden Smog tickets aren't really $25. They're $31 with the markup.
If you go to the club tomorrow night and buy a ticket, it will cost you $25.
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Just got 4. 4:24 be persistent
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Chokeychicken - You complete me.
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Wilco Post-Sale (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=wilco+%2B+dc&category0=)
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Hey, look on the bright side, Wilco plays one or two shows in DC pretty much every year. So it's not like the Pogues or Guns'n'Roses or anything.
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Originally posted by chokeychicken:
about "pre-sales suck", "tickets.com blows," "i hate brokers," but really, the only person you have to blame is yourself. this argument comes up every SINGLE time a big name comes through, and the people who don't get tickets always find somebody else to blame.
stop blaming everybody else. we're sick of hearing about it.
i'd say 75% of this message board successfully got tickets. this is because they knew when (BOTH!!) pre-sales occured, and they knew that if you get on tickets.com at 10:04 and expect to get tickets, well, you're probably riding the shorter bus home from work today.
my best advice, if you keep up with sales and when things are happening, and still didn't get tickets, is become more familiar with tickets.com. there are a lot of tips, tricks, and other things that help you gain even a second's advantage over somebody else, which could be the difference between buying tickets on eay or buying them for face value. learn the ins and outs of tickets.com.
I think I do a fair job of keeping up with the schedules, pre-sales, news, etc. And many thanks to this forum for head's ups as well.
However, I've tried many pre-sales and this is the one big show that I got tickets.
This particular show, honestly, it was luck. There was not a ton of discussion or promotion about the pre-sales. It went very quietly until everyone woke up.
The major complaining does become droll, but seriously, blame myself? Sorry chokey, I've been locked out of one too many other pre-sales. You've been lucky I gather, so good for you. The preachy counterattack just rubs me the wrong way. (4 minutes and a pre-sale is sold out? And I'm on the short bus? :roll: It's not outlandish to want to complain a little bit.)
I've tried the methods you suggest and I don't always get through successfully.
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Grateful Dead/Wilco supergroup PHILCO making debut at Sacred Rose Festival (https://www.brooklynvegan.com/grateful-deadwilco-supergroup-philco-making-debut-at-sacred-rose-festival/)
can anyone imagine a pairing that would yield a more annoying fanbase?
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Wut?!?