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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: JGatz on June 13, 2004, 04:38:00 pm
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I'm going even thought I don't own a single madonna album but I think it'll be a good show.
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Great show.
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It was great but it felt like it ended too quickly. Where was the encore?
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Yeah, I thought the ending just up and came out of nowhere. Still worth it though seeing her one last time. I don't care wait any boardee thinks, that lady has musical talent, and a great entertainer. Well worth the money. Van Halen, Prince and Metallica are next on my MCI Center list.
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I'm going tonight -- I've never seen her, and thought I just had to. I'm more excited about Prince in August, but I know the Madonna show will be a spectacle! Cool....
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She is a great entertainer. I would like to see prince but don't want to shell out the dough.
A side note, the sound for the madonna show was great. The video was an interesting part of the show.
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
I'm going tonight -- I've never seen her, and thought I just had to. I'm more excited about Prince in August, but I know the Madonna show will be a spectacle! Cool....
You'll enjoy it tremondously is my guess.
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Originally posted by JGatz:
She is a great entertainer. I would like to see prince but don't want to shell out the dough.
A side note, the sound for the madonna show was great. The video was an interesting part of the show.
Isn't Prince MUCH less expensive?!
I had 7th row floor for about $60 (Prince @ Gund). I heard Madonna tix were reg ~ $225!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope she was 1/2 as good.
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Originally posted by grotty:
I heard Madonna tix were reg ~ $225!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope she was 1/2 as good.
The good Madonna tickets at MCI were $303 + $25/ticket service charges (online). That was most (if not all) of the floor.
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You can get a round trip flight to London for $328 during some months of the year.
I can feed myself for two months for $328.
Wow.
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that's more than half a months rent including cable/electic/high speed internet for me
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Rhett, you spent $170 for two people to see Nascar. That's three months of metro commuting for me. It's two dinners at DC Coast. It's half a Madonna ticket. It could feed some families in certain parts of Africa for a year. It's all relative, isn't it.
Not all Madonna tix were $330...
Prince's most expensive tix were $80, by the way grotty. And his show is in the round -- that should be a stunner.
Couple of questions -- there's no opener tonight, right? When did the show start and end? Thanks!
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$85 for the most expensive ticket vs. $328 for one ticket. Hmmm, that's 385% more for one ticket compared to the other. I don't see the comparison.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Rhett, you spent $170 for two people to see Nascar. That's three months of metro commuting for me. It's two dinners at DC Coast. It's half a Madonna ticket. It could feed some families in certain parts of Africa for a year. It's all relative, isn't it.
Not all Madonna tix were $330...
Prince's most expensive tix were $80, by the way grotty. And his show is in the round -- that should be a stunner.
Couple of questions -- there's no opener tonight, right? When did the show start and end? Thanks!
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Couple of questions -- there's no opener tonight, right? When did the show start and end? Thanks!
No opener. Show started at 8:43 p.m. and ended at approximatley 10:30 p.m., no encore. So when the video screen comes down and says "Reinvent Yourself".......It's over.
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How long was the show? two hours I would hope and did she play all of her old stuff??
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Originally posted by rachael:
How long was the show? two hours I would hope and did she play all of her old stuff??
She did mix up everything well, I'd say about half the show was her old stuff, I won't say too much so not to ruin it for the people going tonight. I was suprised at a couple songs she DIDNT play.
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$325....was that the scalpers price or face value??
That does seem expensive if it's face value....then again, comparing it to $170 for two tickets to NAZZZZZZZZZCAR, Madonna is a bargain.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
$325....was that the scalpers price or face value??
That's the TicketMaster price. $303 + service charges.
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
Originally posted by Bollocks:
$325....was that the scalpers price or face value??
That's the TicketMaster price. $303 + service charges. [/b]
Ticketmaster/scalper
tomato/tomarto
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I didn't pay for my ticket. She did play most of her old stuff. She didn't play Like a Virgin. The last song of the set was Celebration.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You can get a round trip flight to London for $328 during some months of the year.
I can feed myself for two months for $328.
Wow.
Or you can go see Madonna, if that's what you prefer.
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You didn't compare Madonna ticket prices to other tickets, you compared them to other things you could buy with that amount instead. So did I.
Bollocks, there were four ticket prices. $300 was for floor.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
$85 for the most expensive ticket vs. $328 for one ticket. Hmmm, that's 385% more for one ticket compared to the other. I don't see the comparison.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Rhett, you spent $170 for two people to see Nascar. That's three months of metro commuting for me. It's two dinners at DC Coast. It's half a Madonna ticket. It could feed some families in certain parts of Africa for a year. It's all relative, isn't it.
Not all Madonna tix were $330...
Prince's most expensive tix were $80, by the way grotty. And his show is in the round -- that should be a stunner.
Couple of questions -- there's no opener tonight, right? When did the show start and end? Thanks!
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And isn't seeing Madonna little like getting a wee slice of England too these days?.... ;)
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You can get a round trip flight to London for $328 during some months of the year.
I can feed myself for two months for $328.
Wow.
Or you can go see Madonna, if that's what you prefer. [/b]
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Prince's most expensive tix were $80, by the way grotty. And his show is in the round -- that should be a stunner.
You're gonna love it Bags (referring to Prince).
It's still right up there for Show of the Year for me...it's had lots of competition too: SXSW - Coachella - Bowie - etc.
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It was one of those concerts that was hard to get bored with even if you tried. Plus there were three females with short skirts dancing behind me.....Very hard to get bored ;)
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Yes, a lot of hot ladies and a lot of gay guys. You could count the straight males on two hands.
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Prime Madonna
In a Show That's More Circus Than Concert, the 45-Year-Old Ringmaster Reigns
By David Segal
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 15, 2004; Page C01
By the time the skateboarder began riding a half-pipe ramp set up in the middle of the stage, there was no choice but surrender. The guy was soaring to the right, then to the left, just like they do in the X Games, and at that point anyone who wasn't already entertained into submission had to wave the white flag.
Still to come was a troupe of bagpipers, a tap dancer in white tails and a trapeze trio that swayed and contorted in unison. An hour into the Madonna concert at MCI Center on Sunday night, the realization dawned: Our Material Girl was never going to run out of material.
Certainly not until she had wheezed new meaning into the word "concert." It's unclear what a night at the "Reinvention Tour" should be labeled, but the words currently available won't suffice. Madonna has created a new performance hybrid, one that lifts and blends elements of Broadway, Cirque du Soleil, Rock the Vote rallies, art installations, extreme sporting events, church sermons, disco dances and gun-spinning military drills. For a few songs, it even looked like a rock concert.
Here's the weird part: It's not a mess. It's actually kind of amazing. Pretentious and annoyingly preachy at moments, yes. Strangely devoid of titillation and almost tame by the standards of her naughty-naughty phase, sure. But measured in verve, nerve and technical wizardry, it's hard to leave this epic extravaganza feeling anything less than awe.
Just the seamlessness of it all is impressive. What's here -- and what was repeated for a second evening last night -- is a series of elaborate set pieces and costume dramas without a unifying thread, aside from Madonna's recording career. You imagine that a horde of roadies, miles of wire and a bank of iMacs were needed to make the gears of this machine whir correctly, yet the whole thing unfolds, wheels into place and lights up without a hint of effort. Even Madonna doesn't seem to be sweating much, which is a miracle, and not just because the air conditioning at MCI Center was turned off for much of the show. (Safe bet that was the star's idea; she hates air conditioning.) She's onstage every minute except the time it takes to switch outfits.
The difference between this show and the last, the "Drowned World Tour" of 2001, was striking. That show seems standoffish compared with this one, in part because Madonna has finally worked through whatever issues prevented her from performing her earliest hits.
"We're going to take a trip down memory lane," she said in one of the few asides to the audience. And we did. "Papa Don't Preach," "Open Your Heart" and "Into the Groove" were revived, and Madonna treated those tunes like former friends with whom she wanted to party again. As surprising, Madonna managed to sell a few songs from her latest album, "American Life," an absolute stinker that vanished shortly after its release last year. For the title track, she ran down a lengthy V-shaped catwalk that descended from the ceiling and allowed her to dance about 20 feet over the heads of fans near the middle of MCI. She ended that number by flipping the crowd the British equivalent of the bird. (It's the peace sign, only with the back of the hand to the recipient, if you're interested.) Either nobody realized it, or nobody minded.
Nobody seemed bothered by the antiwar, anti-Bush politics of the show, either. Every few songs, including a wistful take on John Lennon's "Imagine," there were photo montages of war-ravaged children, bombed-out villages and heavy artillery. At one point, a video showed a Dubya look-alike lovingly resting his head on the shoulder of a Saddam Hussein look-alike, as though the pair were waiting for a marriage license.
Gutsy? Not at this point, now that it's safe to stand against the administration and safe to rant about Iraq. Madonna would earn points for courage if last year, at the time of the U.S. invasion, she hadn't yanked the video for "American Life," which ridiculed Bush as a warmongering nincompoop.
No doubt Madonna was worried she'd get Dixie Chicked -- that country threesome paid dearly for criticizing the president during a show last year -- and maybe that fear was legitimate. But her finger-wagging Sunday night felt like catch-up, and it was turned into a "Miss Saigon"-style dance number that trivialized its own point of view. With the sound of a chopper thump-thumping in the background, her backup dancers, dressed as soldiers, crawled on their bellies as though in the middle of battle, then hugged each other as if saying goodbye. Then the fellas danced around Madonna, now in her Patty Hearst get-up -- camouflage pants, an olive army jacket, black beret.
"Stop all wars," Madonna commanded, before she and the Madonnistas left the stage for a costume change.
Will do, babe. Now play some of your hits, okay? Sillier still, Madonna kept pushing Kabala, a Jewish form of mysticism that's become the rage with celebrities in search of spiritual feeding. Hebrew letters, without translation, flashed time and again, and Madonna sang the last several numbers, including "Crazy for You," wearing a T-shirt that read "Kabalists Do It Better."
A veteran button-pusher, Madonna has apparently given up on the one button she pushed better than any other: sex. It makes sense that a mom of 45 would give up her bullet bra and skip the bedroom bump and grind that was a staple of her early arena shows. But "Reinvention" is filled with creepy screen images of naked bodies, all of them quivering and distressed through an editing technique that will be familiar to anyone who's seen a Marilyn Manson video. It's supposed to be arty, and at moments it is. It's also grim, especially if you're expecting a glimpse of the Madonna who made that porno picture book long ago.
She's gone, and in her place is P.T. Barnum with a microphone and a glittering, age-appropriate corset. For a few tunes, Madonna even played guitar in front of her otherwise low-profile band, looking a lot like Sheryl Crow and strumming the bejesus out of the instrument.
Thanks to such interludes, the occasional darkness of "Reinvention" is overwhelmed by the dazzle of its expertly synchronized parts, not to mention Madonna's willingness to at least pretend to enjoy her audience again. She didn't come back for an encore, but she closed with "Holiday," amid cannon shots of confetti and a building filled with fans screaming so loud they seemed to forget the price of their tickets.
And the best seats, for the record, sold for $303.
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i went. so it was $108, but i had kick ass box seats, and 90% of the time, i thought it was worth it. there were many times during that show that i thought "hell yeah, this is why she IS madonna and the queen of pop" with a huge smile on my face.
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You are all going to burn forever in the fires of musical cred hell!
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No we're not.
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We're not doomed to hell because we enjoy an amazing performer, and if Madonna is anything, she is that. It was a great show -- crazy, big, fun. And hot (not in a sexy way, though).
One of the cool things that some of y'all may already have seen is the latest technology for the big screens -- crystal clear. Better picture than my television. A friend had binoculars, but (1) I was close enough to not need them, and (2) the picture on the jumbotrons were so amazing, it was far better than binoculars....
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Originally posted by Buck Tradition:
You are all going to burn forever in the fires of musical cred hell!
Everybody's got a few skeletons in their closet...except for those thoughtless enough to only listen to what pitchfork tells them to.
Hmmm - that reminds me of one of my favorite Onion 'news' stories:
Oprah Viewers Patiently Awaiting Instructions - With nearly three weeks having passed since talk-show host Oprah Winfrey last issued an official command, approximately 60 million Oprah Winfrey Show viewers are on standby,...
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The big as yet unanswered Madonna question though is - Did she have the pointy boobs & just how big did they look on that exquisite jumbotron?
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Originally posted by grotty:
Everybody's got a few skeletons in their closet...except for those thoughtless enough to only listen to what pitchfork tells them to.
Do pitchforks talk? I think you need professional help. I have no skeltons in my closet. And I listen to the daily farm report.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
Do pitchforks talk?
Yes - they encourage you to buy strange bobbleheads
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Wow, Prince vs. Madonna? That's a tough call.
I saw both for the first time this year. I thought both were AMAZING performers. I saw Prince in PA back in April (and have tix for here in August) and saw Madonna last night. I thought both shows were awesome -- setlists, sound, very engaging for the crowd, etc. Both are a re-worked "best of" tours, and were perfect for a first-timer like me.
Interesting comparing the two artists themselves though, since they're both in their 40's and have (successfully) reinvented themselves so many times. I would have LOVED to have seen them both back in the day, especially Prince. I think he's a musical genuis. Although he's just not the same without the dirty words... ;)
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If I had to choose, it'd be Prince no question. He's a far superior musician. But since I could go to both, I enjoyed all the glitz of Madonna's touring circus.
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In another tasteful move, the artist formerly known as Madonna (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_991727.html) has officially changed her name to Polly.