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Title: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: pepper*sans*salt on June 15, 2004, 11:44:00 am
I'm just saying, the tix have been on sale (seems like a while now) and the show still isn't sold out. Should i believe that those swedes have lost some of their luster? I recall seeing them at 9:30 2 years before and it sold out pretty quick. Current musical tastes don't dictate who i see or don't see (i will be there   ;)  )  i'm just curious, is all.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: ratioci nation on June 15, 2004, 12:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by pepper*sans*salt:
   I recall seeing them at 9:30
you sure about that?
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Bags on June 15, 2004, 12:10:00 pm
Oops, I've forgotten to get a ticket.  Good to know they're still available.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Guiny on June 15, 2004, 12:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
   
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Originally posted by pepper*sans*salt:
   I recall seeing them at 9:30
you sure about that? [/b]
I think they mean The Vines, I always get them confused since I don't know one song either group sings.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: pepper*sans*salt on June 15, 2004, 12:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
   
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Originally posted by pepper*sans*salt:
   I recall seeing them at 9:30
you sure about that? [/b]
I'm such an idiot   :roll:  . They were never at 9:30... it was the Black Cat. Sorry about that... having another senior moment here.
 
 the question still stands.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: jkeisenh on June 15, 2004, 12:41:00 pm
either they're a bunch of losers and everybody hates them, or people are slow to buy tickets.
 
 hmm.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Random Citizen on June 15, 2004, 12:42:00 pm
Yeah, they sold out the Black Cat, but consider the difference in venue capacity. They may have sold enough 7/20 tickets so far to sell out the BC this time as well, but not the 9:30.
 
 Plus, it doesn't help that the new album won't be out until 7/20.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 15, 2004, 12:42:00 pm
that time of the year is going to be superbusy for me, not sure if i can make it or not, but i would love to see the hives.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 15, 2004, 12:53:00 pm
well it doesn't help it took so long to record a new album... unless your weezer most bandwagon fans have short memories.  just how hard was it to write and record a collection of two and half minutes songs.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: ratioci nation on June 15, 2004, 12:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  well it doesn't help it took so long to record a new album... unless your weezer most bandwagon fans have short memories.  just how hard was it to write and record a collection of two and half minutes songs.
i believe they had serious label issues
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Random Citizen on June 15, 2004, 12:59:00 pm
The length of time it took to record the new album isn't all their fault. There were record labels haggling over who "owned" the band and who controlled distribution.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  well it doesn't help it took so long to record a new album... unless your weezer most bandwagon fans have short memories.  just how hard was it to write and record a collection of two and half minutes songs.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: grotty on June 15, 2004, 12:59:00 pm
I fear that the Hives 15 minutes are up. [I did hear good things about their SXSW show though]
 
 While I enjoyed the Black Cat show tremendously - I doubt anything they ever do will rise to that level of buzz & energy again.
 
 I remember being surprised that they pretty much went on hiatus right after the Black Cat show (last in the states, I believe) - It was like they retired right at the peak of their popularity. Leave them wanting more I guess. Hope it doesn't backfire on them.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: chaz on June 15, 2004, 01:11:00 pm
You can stream a video of one of their new songs from rollingstone.com.  The guitar on the song reminded me of TSOOL a little bit.
 
 I think it's wierd that some hired gun writes all their songs for them.  It kills it for me a little.  I saw the Cat show last year.  I thought the band sounded good but the whole "We are the Hives and aren't we so wonderful" schtick got a little old.
 
 For those who go, prepare yourselves to be surrounded by screaming 15 year old girls.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: nkotb on June 15, 2004, 01:25:00 pm
I read in NME quite some time ago that Randy Fitzsimmons, the guy that supposedly got them together and writes their songs, is just an registered pseudonym of guitarist Nicholaus Arson.  
 
 Link (http://www.nme.com/news/100749.htm)
 
 
 
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Originally posted by chaz:
  I think it's wierd that some hired gun writes all their songs for them.  It kills it for me a little.  
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Random Citizen on June 15, 2004, 01:25:00 pm
Nah, they'll be 17 now.  :D
 
 
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Originally posted by chaz:
  For those who go, prepare yourselves to be surrounded by screaming 15 year old girls.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: twangirl on June 15, 2004, 02:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
   [I did hear good things about their SXSW show though]
 
They did rock all the way out at their SXSW show, not an easy thing to do at 2 in the afternoon in a big sunny outdoor venue [Stubbs]. It was pretty crowded with lots of people jumping around, including The Hives. They looked real cute in their black outfits too. They are gonna rock on 7/20, and with Sahara Hotnights and Reigning Sound opening you really can't go wrong for 16 bucks.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2004, 02:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by twangirl:
   They are gonna rock on 7/20, and with Sahara Hotnights and Reigning Sound opening you really can't go wrong for 16 bucks.
Swedish Rock chicks by themselves are worth $16.  The Hives are just a bonus.  Definitely worth $16 and your time.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 15, 2004, 02:50:00 pm
thanks to pollard and random for the info  :D  
 
 and even if they did "hire" someone to write their own songs, it's no biggie with me.  just ask sweet, mud, etc.  frankly there are some bands that need to hire out songwriters...
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: Dandy01 on June 15, 2004, 03:03:00 pm
I got my tix recently and wondered the same thing re: their popularity waning..  Still looking forward to it since I missed them last time.
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: RatBastard on June 16, 2004, 08:16:00 pm
I like their music.
 I'm going to the show.
 Next!
Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 16, 2004, 11:05:00 pm
yeah, that's pretty much what i've been reading too
 
 but if you take anything about the hives seriously...you kind of miss the point
 
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  I read in NME quite some time ago that Randy Fitzsimmons, the guy that supposedly got them together and writes their songs, is just an registered pseudonym of guitarist Nicholaus Arson.  
 
 Link (http://www.nme.com/news/100749.htm)
 
 
   
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Originally posted by chaz:
  I think it's wierd that some hired gun writes all their songs for them.  It kills it for me a little.  
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Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: nkotb on June 17, 2004, 09:23:00 am
Exactly.  It's not long division here; it's rock n roll.  I just really love the fact that, instead of trying to flex indie cred by covering up someone writing their songs, they lie about it.  Pretty clever, if you ask me.  If nothing else, those guys know how to get in the papers.  I missed the last Black Cat show, but when they opened for the (International) Noise Conspiracy a while ago, they completely upstaged them.  
 
 
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, that's pretty much what i've been reading too
 
 but if you take anything about the hives seriously...you kind of miss the point
   
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  I read in NME quite some time ago that Randy Fitzsimmons, the guy that supposedly got them together and writes their songs, is just an registered pseudonym of guitarist Nicholaus Arson.  
 
 Link (http://www.nme.com/news/100749.htm)
 
 
   
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Originally posted by chaz:
  I think it's wierd that some hired gun writes all their songs for them.  It kills it for me a little.  
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Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: chaz on June 17, 2004, 09:32:00 am
Yeah maybe I am being too harsh about the songwriting thing.  FWIW I did enjoy the BC show...the songs are good and the band sounds good.  I'm going to the 9:30 show not just for the hives for Saharah Hotnights as well.
 
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, that's pretty much what i've been reading too
 
 but if you take anything about the hives seriously...you kind of miss the point
   
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  I read in NME quite some time ago that Randy Fitzsimmons, the guy that supposedly got them together and writes their songs, is just an registered pseudonym of guitarist Nicholaus Arson.  
 
 Link (http://www.nme.com/news/100749.htm)
 
 
   
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Originally posted by chaz:
  I think it's wierd that some hired gun writes all their songs for them.  It kills it for me a little.  
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Title: Re: What? The Hives cool no longer??
Post by: snailhook on June 17, 2004, 05:09:00 pm
it's going to be a garage rock night in DC, because the ponys and thee snuff project are at the black cat backstage. the ponys are a kickass new band on in the red, and thee snuff project are one of the best bands in town right now.
 
 i hope i can get out of work early that day to catch THE REIGNING SOUND, who will likely blow away the following two bands. it's greg oblivian's current band, and they play beautiful songs that straddle the line between raw garage soul and byrdsian country-tinged folk-rock. the oblivians were arguably the best garage band in america in the mid '90s.
 
 i'm not impressed by the hives; don't hate 'em, just indifferent. i saw the sahara hotchicks once and they were fun, much better than, say, the donnas. garage fans should have a tough time choosing between the two shows.