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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: bearman🐻 on April 25, 2005, 11:27:00 am
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Anyone going? I would imagine it's far fewer people this time around. Still a good lineup though.
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please have fun for me, bunnyman!!! doesnt look to be so hot this year either!
I will be in Coachella withdrawal this year, and listening to all the bands at this years show.
other financial duty calls, but I'll be back next year, 100%!
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
Anyone going? I would imagine it's far fewer people this time around. Still a good lineup though.
it's not bad, but it's not as impressive as last year. i found, though, that last year had too much that i wanted to see and there were too many schedule overlaps.
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btw, i just checked out the forecast high for this upcoming weekend in indio... 20 degrees cooler than last year. i hate you.
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I'll be there. This will be my first Coachella ever. Really wish I could've made it last year, although this year's lineup is still great. It's gonna be hard picking which bands to see. Some of my priorities would include Gang of Four, Arcade Fire, and Black Star. Weren't they supposed to announce a replacement for Cocteau Twins?
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Originally posted by buddha:
It's gonna be hard picking which bands to see.
just check the site on Thurs, thats the day they announce set times...giving you a good 36-48 hours to plan your attack! and dont be shy about bringing your "highlighted lineup" to the show with you, about 1 in 3 people are carrying one around!
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Originally posted by white man from town:
Originally posted by buddha:
It's gonna be hard picking which bands to see.
just check the site on Thurs, thats the day they announce set times...giving you a good 36-48 hours to plan your attack! and dont be shy about bringing your "highlighted lineup" to the show with you, about 1 in 3 people are carrying one around! [/b]
yeah. i got a call while in some fast food parking lot outside albuquerque or vegas or somethign on my way out there warning me of all the overlaps (i hadn't had internet access for several days on the drive out there).. it was quite a bit disappointing to hear.
in a way i'd still kind of like to go this year, just for the sake of being out there again. it seems weather-wise this year will be much more enjoyable.
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20 degrees cooler?? Awesome!! I see that some showers are predicted, but hey, it's not the end of the world. I'm so darn excited.
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Originally posted by distance:
20 degrees cooler than last year.
That's great news! I was a bit worried I'd end up in the first aid tent...
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
20 degrees cooler?? Awesome!! I see that some showers are predicted, but hey, it's not the end of the world. I'm so darn excited.
yeah, i'd really like to find out what the exact temperatures were. on the way to the festival grounds at around 11something AM, one of the thermometers we passed by said it was 103... at not-even-noon!
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I will be there again this year. Definitely looking forward to the cooler temperatures...and the fact that we are at the Best Western in Indio this year and not some Motel 6, 50 miles out. Hopefully we can walk and not have to sit in the goddamn dustbowl parking lot for an hour after the show.
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I'm in.
If I get to see:
Secret Machines
Bloc Party
and New Order
it'll be well worth it
And I'll be missing the heat. Tho the tents may be a little more comfortable
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Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
Tho the tents may be a little more comfortable
HA! if youre a chimp!!!! those saunas, i mean tents, didnt seem 1 degree cooler to me....they arent as hot maybe, but they are humid as all get out...
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Originally posted by white man from town:
Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
Tho the tents may be a little more comfortable
HA! if youre a chimp!!!! those saunas, i mean tents, didnt seem 1 degree cooler to me....they arent as hot maybe, but they are humid as all get out... [/b]
yeah. exactly. it's slightly better when they have the flaps open, but early in the day they were all closed and it was like baking in there, though you didn't have the sun pounding down on you.
but seriously, this weekend shouldn't be nearly as bad. 85 degrees would be great for that festival. even despite the heat and such i had a great time around the palm springs/palm desert area outside of the festival. of my whole 3-week cross country trip, the coachella festival itself wasn't in the top 5 highlights of my trip.
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I am shooting to see the following:
New Order
Gang of Four
Bauhaus
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
M83
Chemical Brothers
Prodigy
Weezer
the Faint
Nine Inch Nails
Doves
I know I won't be able to see everyone...but ideally I'd love to see all those. It's a very solid line-up...I'll get to see Gang of Four and Bloc Party at the 9:30 if I miss them at Coachella though.
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I definitely need to catch M83. I just picked up "Dead Cities..." Now I'm really regretting missing that Black Cat show.
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as much as i loved last year, i'm glad not to be going this year. the lineup isn't as good, there are more bands playing that i've already seen, and i'm sure the crowd will be more, well, you know... though i would have preferred this year's weather last year. the heat really got in the way of my beer drinkin' habit.
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Originally posted by white man from town:
Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
Tho the tents may be a little more comfortable
HA! if youre a chimp!!!! those saunas, i mean tents, didnt seem 1 degree cooler to me....they arent as hot maybe, but they are humid as all get out... [/b]
I meant more comfortable than last year.
The tents were near unbearable in that 100 degree heat. I squeezed a quart of sweat out of my shirt after the Black Keys set last year - the guy next to me during it looked like Frodo in Sin City his glasses were fogged up so thick from the humidity.
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I seriously doubt that it will even sell out this year...that being said, it will probably still be a good turnout. I'm looking forward to seeing the set times so I can figure out which bands I'll actually get to see.
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Anyone know if Verizon phones get service in Indio?
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Originally posted by buddha:
Anyone know if Verizon phones get service in Indio?
don't have verizon, but i had service.
however, at ACL, the lines were too busy for me to get a call out often. it kind of sucked.
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Originally posted by buddha:
Anyone know if Verizon phones get service in Indio?
it's hit and miss, but my phone tended to work better than the non-verizon people i was with.
whatever you do, don't sign up for that Coachella text msg update thing. it doesn't tell you anything new that you don't know from having the little schedule, and it will eat into your battery life.
enjoy.
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I agree with what Salparadise said. That was definitely the case last year.
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This is my first time and I am looking forward to it. Except for my 8 am flight out on monday.
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Watch out for these guys!!!!
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=3249800 (http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=3249800)
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Good luck folks... My words of advice... get out of there early. Heard a lot of horror stories leaving. I left midway through RH last year and still got lost between the polo grounds and the interstate. Those of us staying home, HFS is a better lineup all the way around. Maybe the smaller tent bands are better at Coachella, but ya don't fly across the country to see a half dozen at the most (you can't get around to nearly as many as you'd want or think you can) underground bands. Maybe next year Coachella will do a little better than Coldplay and NIN... not that they are that bad... but headliners at Coachella?
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I had Nextel for my phone last year and it worked fine, and the general rule of thumb is if Nextel works, most ANY phone is going to work.
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Originally posted by myuman:
Good luck folks... My words of advice... get out of there early. Heard a lot of horror stories leaving. I left midway through RH last year and still got lost between the polo grounds and the interstate.
Sataurday night was HELL getting out of there, but Sunday was fine. Seems like every year something goes wrong there, and the next year or night, they fix it. 2003 was a HUGE line on Sat but none on Sunday, 2004 was a traffic jam getting out on Saturday, none on Sunday.
I dont know what this years problem will be, but know this....you'll only have to go through it once. :)
I am totally jealous and angry that i am not going, and HFS's lineup doesnt even compare to this, whoever said that either fell and bumped thier head or like Echo and the Bunnymen WAY too much!
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Obviously I love Echo, but Coachella is definitely the place to be :) I just found out I'm scheduled to interview Liam from Prodigy, ha! Should be interesting. I love his band's older stuff, never bothered with the last record. We'll see how it goes.
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My point is this.... you have to have a game plan at a major festival. I think it was Coachella last year that had Trail of Dead on at the same time as Beck... and the only way to see beck was to find some way into the tent about a half hour ahead of time, which I believe screwed me for.. I forget now. And then you have some good band playing that you've seen 20 times before (not the reason you travel 2500 miles). So each day might bring around 4 bands that you are glad you saw because they were there and they are good, etc. The rest is just repeats of half decent bands and new drivel you wish you'd be in the water line for instead. The headliners are the driving force is my festival philosophy. The other cool bands from bloc party to kaiser chiefs to British sea power... invest about $50 and see all three in the comforts of your own town (because they are touring, that's why they'd be at a festival like Coachella or hfs for that matter.) So unless you are big into NIN.... Radiohead and Pixies was a rare event last year... so it was a must attend. Of course this only speaks for the music. Sunset views of San Jacinto Mt., Hollywood, San Diego, raising cane in the hotel... well those things are all worth the trip as well. So enjoy. And remember... it's not Glastonbury, which all events are humbled by.
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Originally posted by myuman:
So enjoy. And remember... it's not Glastonbury, which all events are humbled by.
but if its just HALF of glastonbury, then it would be ok, cause thats how much it costs
also, I would go as far as to say that many bands i see at large festivals are MUCH better there than they are on a regular boring tour night.
I guarante Bassment Jaxx wouldnt have had the 930 club rockin like it did in the desert last year!
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Originally posted by myuman:
My point is this.... you have to have a game plan at a major festival. I think it was Coachella last year that had Trail of Dead on at the same time as Beck... and the only way to see beck was to find some way into the tent about a half hour ahead of time, which I believe screwed me for.. I forget now. And then you have some good band playing that you've seen 20 times before (not the reason you travel 2500 miles). So each day might bring around 4 bands that you are glad you saw because they were there and they are good, etc. The rest is just repeats of half decent bands and new drivel you wish you'd be in the water line for instead. The headliners are the driving force is my festival philosophy. The other cool bands from bloc party to kaiser chiefs to British sea power... invest about $50 and see all three in the comforts of your own town (because they are touring, that's why they'd be at a festival like Coachella or hfs for that matter.) So unless you are big into NIN.... Radiohead and Pixies was a rare event last year... so it was a must attend. Of course this only speaks for the music. Sunset views of San Jacinto Mt., Hollywood, San Diego, raising cane in the hotel... well those things are all worth the trip as well. So enjoy. And remember... it's not Glastonbury, which all events are humbled by.
Does it ever rain @ Glastonbury?
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Originally posted by The Artist Formerly Known As grotty:
Does it ever rain @ Glastonbury? [/b]
Holy Hades... I'm sure, but being in a freakin' greenhouse (tent) in 105 degree desert heat trying to make sense of Q and not U is almost half as bad as the 200% humidity at hfs last year while watching Karen O scream. Not sure the lesser of all the evils here.... and to respond to another post... festivals are neat events, but do you seriously believe a festival gig surpasses an intimate club gig for a particular (one) artist?
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It really depends on the festival and who is playing. There have been arena shows I've seen that gave me chills to hear 20,000 people singing along to a song, there's something pretty neat about that. Seeing the Pixies at Coachella was just as good as seeing them 4th row at DAR. They were both memorable to me.
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Originally posted by myuman:
but do you seriously believe a festival gig surpasses an intimate club gig for a particular (one) artist?
it can. sure.
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Heres your set-times in a round-a-bout fashion........ (http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-coverguide28apr28,0,7870082.htmlstory)
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Originally posted by sonickteam3:
Heres your set-times in a round-a-bout fashion........ (http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-coverguide28apr28,0,7870082.htmlstory)
wow. there are no overlaps on the stuff i want to see.
too bad a) i won't be there this year and b) that wasn't the case last year.
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Here is the real deal, all easy to read and stuff. (http://coachella.com/times.html)
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ARGH...I will be interviewing the Prodigy while New Order is on. I knew this would happen. Maybe Liam and co. will change their time and I'll at least get to see NO play "Blue Monday" or something.
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oh god, luckyluckyluckyluckluck.
everybody going: PLEASE have fun for me.
i always end up missing coachella by a few days, weeks...it's obnoxious.
one of these days i'll make it out though.
please have a smashing time for all of us stuck here in DC that wish we weren't...
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Originally posted by you be betty:
i always end up missing coachella by a few days, weeks...it's obnoxious.
one of these days i'll make it out though.
No One Makes It To Burning Man Festival
From: Legume <none@yerbiz.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 26, 2003
No One Makes It To Burning Man Festival
GERLACH, NV~The Burning Man festival, a prominent artistic and
countercultural event that draws tens of thousands of people to the
Nevada desert annually, is in danger of cancellation this week because
"no one had their shit together enough to even make it," organizers said
Tuesday.
"Jesus Christ, this is pathetic," said event coordinator Ethan Moon as he
angrily gestured toward the empty Black Rock Desert basin expanse, known
as the playa. "We've been promoting this thing all year. You can't start
panhandling quarters for gas the week before the festival and expect to
make it here in time, man."
Moon listed some of the most common no-show excuses, among them
oversleeping, forgetting to request time off work, faulty van-borrowing
arrangements, a shortage of ochre body-paint, and the last-minute
realization that transportation to the Burning Man festival requires
money.
"As of a few weeks ago, or even a few days ago, there were 30,000 people
who honestly planned on coming," Moon said. "In every case, however,
there were, well, you know~shit happened."
Although Burning Man festivals have had no-shows in the past, Moon said
he's never witnessed absenteeism on this level.
"You have to figure out a way to get here, stock up on water and extra
clothing for the cold nights, and make sure you have adequate shelter,"
Moon said. "Apparently, the advance planning it takes to arrange those
three basic things was more than anyone could handle. Sorry to be on this
uptight trip, but check out the playa. Not a single nude dude in a
homemade papier-mâché tribal mask as far as the eye can see."
Although Burning Man is billed on its web site as a "temporary community
dedicated to radical self-expression and radical self-reliance," it
became evident that the no-shows were more capable of the former than
they were of the latter.
Los Angeles silkscreen artist Goldi Trewartha was among the tens of
thousands of Burning Man devotees who stayed home this year.
"Yeah, I was supposed to go with Ari and Shel, but they couldn't score
[Ecstasy] in time for the trip, and I forgot my bartering beads at my
friend Marnie's place in Los Feliz," Trewartha said. "Oh, and I forgot to
get a dog sitter."
Added Trewartha: "Shel made this great suit out of old stuffed-monkey
pelts and duct tape, and he was going to hop up and down on this old
trampoline he found. But his ex, Nikki, made him babysit [their daughter]
Gaia while she headed out to Big Sur for a few days. I love Nikki, but
sometimes she can be real flaky."
Chaz Bullard, a University of Vermont undergraduate and veteran mud
person, had multiple excuses for his failure to attend the Burning Man
festival.
"I totally spaced that August is 8, and I wrote down 9 in my
sketchbook," Bullard said. "Oh, and I got evicted. Yeah, fuckin' Dyl up
and ditches me, right, and I'm stuck owing $700, because he wasn't on the
lease."
Bullard added that he contracted hepatitis from his ex-roommate's tacos.
Moon said he has received apologetic phone calls from a squadron of
recumbent bicyclists lost somewhere in southern Nebraska, a Kentucky
artist whose pet python was too carsick to continue the journey, and a
group of Germans who uncovered a fatal structural flaw in their "Freak
Harnesses" art installation at the last minute.
Hippies were not the only counterculture group to miss the Burning Man
festival. Portland-area Linux user and self-described cyber-conceptualist
"Free" Lance Kaegle explained his absence in an instant message from his
studio.
"I was organizing this boss techno-art project called 'Off The Grid,'"
Kaegle wrote. "We were going to set up computer terminals in various
parts of the playa and have people use them. Then we'd feed the binary
data from those terminals into this fractals program that [Silver Lake,
CA software designer] Ricky [Thomas-Slater] wrote. Those fractals would
be sent, on the fly, to a group of exiled Buddhist monks I befriended
online. The monks would transform the fractals into a temporal sand
painting, the making of which we would webcast live to everyone on the
playa."
Added Kaegle: "But I had to stop working on the monk thing to finish up
this Pam's Country Crafts web site I'm working on. I really need the
money."
While most absences were accidental, a few were not. Doug "Crazyroot"
Pycroft, a former smoothie-stand employee, has a history of missing
countercultural events.
"I thought about going, but then I decided I don't need some dudes
pushing their rules down my throat," Pycroft said. "That's the problem
with these things. If they're so nonconformist, how come you gotta obey
some fascist wearing a lanyard just to use the Port-A-John? Same reason I
refused to go to [The Church Of The Subgenius'] X-Day back in '98. Hell,
I ditched the very first Lollapalooza one hour in."
As a cloud of sand whipped across the desolate playa, Moon could only
shake his head. Although the weeklong festival traditionally culminates
in the igniting of the Burning Man, a 50-foot-tall wooden structure
strapped with fireworks and other incendiaries, Moon wondered aloud
whether he and the handful of other staffers should even bother.
"I guess we could burn what we've built, but it would just feel
anticlimactic with no one around to watch," Moon said. "You gotta look at
the bigger picture here, folks. You shouldn't think of Burning Man as a
burden. Burning Man is about being part of a community. Unfortunately,
it's a community of people who can't get up before 1 p.m."
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Coachella Festival will eventually have to move (http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050825/NEWS01/508250328/1006)