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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jkeisenh on April 05, 2004, 08:29:00 am
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Just wanted to share my excitement (*bounce bounce bounce*) at tomorrow morning's release of the new Modest Mouse album... anyone have it yet?
I tried to talk a shop-that-will-not-be-named into selling me one yesterday, but they were really jerks about it and wouldn't. Acted like I was asking them to saw a limb off.
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I got my copy Saturday, listening now. It is good. They played Float On off of it shortly before Death Cab came on the other night.
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I found it really bizzare that there was a commercial advertizing the new album during the Red Sox/O's game on ESPN2 last night. Not really the demographic that listens to MM...or so I thought.
Any bets as to when a modest mouse reference occurs on the OC?
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Has anyone noticed that a close listen to Float on, reveals that it would fit in perfectly on the stellastarr* album?
Are any of the other songs on the album as catchy as float on?
(I downloaded Float on for free thanks to pepsi and itunes)
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Based on who was wearing band t-shirts for Modest Mouse at Bumbershoot, I would say the typical Modest Mouse fan is a 13 year old girl.
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I found it really bizzare that there was a commercial advertizing the new album during the Red Sox/O's game on ESPN2 last night. Not really the demographic that listens to MM...or so I thought.
Any bets as to when a modest mouse reference occurs on the OC?
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eh-hem. Half of us 13-year-old-grrls turned 14 over the course of the winter and we don't like being pigeonholed that way.
*hairflip*
*hrumph*
Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
Based on who was wearing band t-shirts for Modest Mouse at Bumbershoot, I would say the typical Modest Mouse fan is a 13 year old girl.
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I found it really bizzare that there was a commercial advertizing the new album during the Red Sox/O's game on ESPN2 last night. Not really the demographic that listens to MM...or so I thought.
Any bets as to when a modest mouse reference occurs on the OC?
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Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
the typical Modest Mouse fan is a 13 year old girl.
their last album before this was in 2000, I don't think 9 year olds were listening to modest mouse
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I would have thunk that turning 14 would have turned you into a Ben Kweller fan. Leave Modest Mouse to the 13 year olds!
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
eh-hem. Half of us 13-year-old-grrls turned 14 over the course of the winter and we don't like being pigeonholed that way.
*hairflip*
*hrumph*
Originally posted by Walkie hearts your balls:
Based on who was wearing band t-shirts for Modest Mouse at Bumbershoot, I would say the typical Modest Mouse fan is a 13 year old girl.
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I found it really bizzare that there was a commercial advertizing the new album during the Red Sox/O's game on ESPN2 last night. Not really the demographic that listens to MM...or so I thought.
Any bets as to when a modest mouse reference occurs on the OC?
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Woah... has anyone been to the Modest Mouse website (http://www.modestmouse.com) lately? That scary, creepy, bleeding Grover-like thing is sure to show up in the nightmares of the 13-year old girls... perhaps it's the scarecrow they've come up with to help force a more mature audience?
Eep. I'm scared.
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i've had it for weeks. it fan-fucking-tastic. the second half didn't grab me right away, but its solid. now please come to dc.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Has anyone noticed that a close listen to Float on, reveals that it would fit in perfectly on the stellastarr* album?
Are any of the other songs on the album as catchy as float on?
(I downloaded Float on for free thanks to pepsi and itunes)
Any opinions? Anyone?
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Modest Mouse in Lollapalooza 2004. Wow, that ought to be a let down.
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review (http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-etsecw3740617apr06,0,6512407.column?coll=ny-news-columnists) here
I was a little surprised to see it listed in the various Best Buy/Circuit City/Target mailers this weekend - I think Best Buy is seeling it for 7.99
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Originally posted by brennser:
seeling
Thanks for the info!
And, just to be an arse.......
seel    P   Pronunciation Key  (sl)
tr.v. seeled, seel·ing, seels
To stitch closed the eyes of (a falcon)
seeling
Seel \Seel\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Seeled; p. pr. & vb. n. Seeling.] [F. siller, ciller, fr. cil an eyelash, L. cilium.] 1. (Falconry) To close the eyes of (a hawk or other bird) by drawing through the lids threads which were fastened over the head. --Bacon.
Fools climb to fall: fond hopes, like seeled doves for want of better light, mount till they end their flight with falling. --J. Reading.
2. Hence, to shut or close, as the eyes; to blind.
Come, seeling night, Scarf up the tender eye of pitiful day. --Shak.
Cold death, with a violent fate, his sable eyes did seel. --Chapman.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
seeling
Seel \Seel\, Seeling \Seel"ing\, n. The rolling or agitation of a ship in a storm. [Obs.] --Sandys.
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OK, that does it, I've had it with bands doing this to me.
And to get even, anyone who wants to burn a copy of it after I get it tomorrow, let me know. I'm not interested in financing espn2 ads or supporting a bestseller.
Originally posted by brennser:
I was a little surprised to see it listed in the various Best Buy/Circuit City/Target mailers this weekend - I think Best Buy is seeling it for 7.99
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Markie, from the review brennser so helpfully pointed out:
The first single, "Float On," is one of the most charming of the year, a positive-thinking sing-along that still rocks out. "All right, don't worry even if things end up a bit too heavy, we'll all float on," Brock sings over what may be Modest Mouse's most memorable guitar riff. The song is already starting to get airplay on alternative stations, even though it doesn't really sound like anything else on the air.
That could be said for pretty much all of "Good News," though.
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
I'm not interested in financing espn2 ads or supporting a bestseller.
what the hell are you on about, they are on sony/epic, or are sony an ok corporation for some obscure reason, their last album was put out by sony as well
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Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I found it really bizzare that there was a commercial advertizing the new album during the Red Sox/O's game on ESPN2 last night. Not really the demographic that listens to MM...or so I thought.
all the indie kids love baseball. . .it was great watching baseball again.
btw, for the first time, i might actually root for the o's this year. . .mainly because tejada is one of my favourite players (stupid oakland).
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Yea I read it. He posted after I asked. It sounds like stellastarr* to me. I was hoping for an opinion from someone here. I find them more reliable, give or take their character flaws, than reviewers.
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yup, and i burned thier last album as well.
no worries, though-- the money otherwise spent on corporate records will go to indies or to shows, of course.
Originally posted by pollard:
what the hell are you on about, they are on sony/epic, or are sony an ok corporation for some obscure reason, their last album was put out by sony as well [/QB]
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Yea I read it. He posted after I asked. It sounds like stellastarr* to me. I was hoping for an opinion from someone here. I find them more reliable, give or take their character flaws, than reviewers.
hmmm. . well, i'll have to run out to best buy this week. . modest mouse and snow patrol on sale. . and i'm driving to philly next monday for opening day, so i'll need me some music for the road.
i have moon and antartica. . .took me a loooooong time to enjoy the first half of it. . .but still can't listen past "wild packs of family dogs" though.
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
OK, that does it, I've had it with bands doing this to me.
And to get even, anyone who wants to burn a copy of it after I get it tomorrow, let me know. I'm not interested in financing espn2 ads or supporting a bestseller.
Originally posted by brennser:
I was a little surprised to see it listed in the various Best Buy/Circuit City/Target mailers this weekend - I think Best Buy is seeling it for 7.99
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but if you really want to screw a big corporation go buy it at best buy for that low price and don't make any other purchases. new released cds are sold at lost at best buy etc, in order to get you in the store to buy something that makes them money (computer, tv, etc).
soundgarden has said in the past they actually buy new cds at best buy because they are cheaper there than having to go through a distributor.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Has anyone noticed that a close listen to Float on, reveals that it would fit in perfectly on the stellastarr* album?
Are any of the other songs on the album as catchy as float on?
(I downloaded Float on for free thanks to pepsi and itunes)
yes. ocean breathes salty is even better, i think. i am horribly biased, obviously a huge mm fan.
someone told me they saw modest mouse in a big venue in boston, and they were so bad it made him cry. hear better things about club shows, though.
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drooling review from tiny mix tapes (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/m/modest_mouse.htm)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
someone told me they saw modest mouse in a big venue in boston, and they were so bad it made him cry. hear better things about club shows, though.
it was a while ago now, but they were great last time at the black cat, well they were great until Isaac was too intoxicated to continue, (they claimed they were stopping because of a broken amp but it was clear Isaac was having a hard time getting the songs out)
did anybody else get the live disc that came with the cd if you ordered online, is from a show in Florida earlier this year, several people yell freebird and Isaac has a rant about why they will never play freebird, it is amusing
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
OK, that does it, I've had it with bands doing this to me.
And to get even, anyone who wants to burn a copy of it after I get it tomorrow, let me know. I'm not interested in financing espn2 ads or supporting a bestseller.
Originally posted by brennser:
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Doing what to you? Signing to a label to get better distribution and marketing? Bastards!
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
someone told me they saw modest mouse in a big venue in boston, and they were so bad it made him cry. hear better things about club shows, though.
it was a while ago now, but they were great last time at the black cat, well they were great until Isaac was too intoxicated to continue, (they claimed they were stopping because of a broken amp but it was clear Isaac was having a hard time getting the songs out)
did anybody else get the live disc that came with the cd if you ordered online, is from a show in Florida earlier this year, several people yell freebird and Isaac has a rant about why they will never play freebird, it is amusing [/b]
Yes, I agree it is amusing.
However even though I did receive this bootleg I feel screwed because I could have gotten Good News at Best Buy for $8. I thought I was getting the good deal. Damn.
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and, lo, Pitchfork said it was good, and so it was good..... (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/m/modest-mouse/good-news-for-people-who-love-bad-news.shtml)
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Originally posted by brennser:
and, lo, Pitchfork said it was good, and so pollard knew it was good..... (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/m/modest-mouse/good-news-for-people-who-love-bad-news.shtml)
:D
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Gosh I like that Joe Heim, who, unlike other Washington Post music reporters who shall remain unnamed, writes reviews of both albums and relevant shows.
Here are his thoughts on Modest Mouse's Good News for People Who Like Bad News. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56312-2004Apr6.html)
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I did something for this CD that I haven't for quite some time. I actually gave it a dedicated 'test drive'. Sitting down, reading the lyrics, really listening to every song. [I need to do this more often!]
If I was Rhett, I'd give this record an initial 8.0 big balls rating. And I suspect the balls may get even larger.
Standout tracks for me:
*Bury Me With It
*Satin in a Coffin
and the record's finest moment:
*Blame it on the Tetons.
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And while we're at it, here's the onion AV club interview with Modest Mouse (ok, Isaac Brock):
http://www.theavclub.com/feature/index.php?issue=4014 (http://www.theavclub.com/feature/index.php?issue=4014)
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It's like someone at the Post read our David Segal thread.... review (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56312-2004Apr6.html) of Modest Mouse in today's print edition.
Listening to Modest Mouse's major-label CDs, the just-released "Good News for People Who Love Bad News" and 2000's "The Moon and Antarctica," even the most die-hard indie loyalist would be pressed to make the sellout charge stick. The recent efforts represent the band at its best, challenging itself and responding with some of the most interesting songs and captivating music being made by an American group in the past five years.
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Originally posted by Bags:
It's like someone at the Post read our David Segal thread.... review (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56312-2004Apr6.html) of Modest Mouse in today's print edition.
Listening to Modest Mouse's major-label CDs, the just-released "Good News for People Who Love Bad News" and 2000's "The Moon and Antarctica," even the most die-hard indie loyalist would be pressed to make the sellout charge stick. The recent efforts represent the band at its best, challenging itself and responding with some of the most interesting songs and captivating music being made by an American group in the past five years.
I agree with all of that. I think this CD will be in pretty heavy rotation for me over the summer.
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I really like Float On Markie...but it does sound like a Stellastarr*, or at least some of it does. Hey Pollard, since you are in non-review mode, hows about hooking a brother up ala mountain goats?
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Oh, and they are playing Float On on HFS now...if Besy Buy didn't scare you enough.
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Check out the video (http://www.mtv.com/music/video/premiere/modest_mouse/index.jhtml) for Float On here....
The following is extracted from the super-creative treatment for Modest Mouse's "Float On" video, directed by Christopher Mills:
"Two vultures sit clenched atop the wires of a giant hydro tower. One of them is suddenly electrocuted by a surge. As he falls, we follow him down into a meadow of Poppies where we join a group of boisterous, carefree 'slacker sheep' (who bear a slight resemblance to each of the members of Modest Mouse)...They pass an opening in the forest, where a glistening stream calls out to them. They throw caution to the wind and decide to go take a dip. An underwater sequence ensues..."
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My college paper's review (http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/654679.html?mkey=1164044) is so much more hard-core than the Post review.
neener,neener.
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why the heck is it in all italics? hurty eyes
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
why the heck is it in all italics? hurty eyes
Just tilt your head to the side and it will look like it's straight, ok?
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Damn this album is getting a lot of press....article link (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/11/arts/music/11SANN.html)
April 11, 2004
The Mouse Still Roars
By KELEFA SANNEH
The New York Times
ots of the best indie-rock bands aren't really bands at all. They're alter egos or solo acts or traveling support systems for singer-songwriters. Cat Power is another name for Chan Marshall, Destroyer consists solely of Daniel Bejar; Dolorean is Al James and friends, the Decemberists are Colin Meloy and friends. And on a beautiful new album called "Bonnie `Prince' Billy Sings Greatest Palace Music," Will Oldham lets his alter ego, Bonnie "Prince" Billy, interpret the work of his one-man-band, Palace Music.
In a subculture ruled by armies of one, the veteran indie-rock act Modest Mouse seems more than a little out of place: it's a band in name and in fact. The group's leader, Isaac Brock, flirted with autonomy in 2002, when he released an uneven solo CD credited to Ugly Casanova. But now comes "Good News for People Who Love Bad News" (Sony), which proves this band has outlasted its era; "Good News" is the best Modest Mouse album yet.
Modest Mouse was formed in Issaquah, Wash., outside Seattle, and the band prospered during the dark ages after Nirvana and before the Strokes, when underground rock went back underground. The group's 1997 album, "The Lonesome Crowded West," was a knotty, exhilarating collection designed to ward off casual listeners and reward patient ones. Somehow, the album earned the band a major-label contract, but if the executives thought they had signed a great band that would conquer the charts, they were only half right.
It's been four years since the last Modest Mouse album and it seems the members have taken up an unlikely hobby: they've been listening to the Talking Heads. The album's lead single, "Float On," is the greatest song David Byrne never yelped. Mr. Brock delivers the lyrics in frantic little bursts ("I. Backed. My. Car. In. To. A. Cop car. The other. Day/ Well he just drove off, sometimes life's O.K."), as if trying in vain to resist the fierce undertow of the backbeat.
This group has always excelled at density, but "Good News" is a marvel of lightness. Eric Judy's chewy bass lines, which often provide the melody, nudge the songs ever upward and outward, and Dann Gallucci adds glimmering atomized guitar chords. "One Chance," one of the album's last songs, starts with a gentle, tangled guitar riff, which builds and then unexpectedly disappears, leaving only a meandering bass line to accompany Mr. Brock as he sighs the lyrics.
Bands with only one voting member often find a specialty and stick to it: if the leader excels at writing pretty, sorrowful songs, then that's all you'll hear. Modest Mouse, on the other hand, gallops through backwoods stomps and new-wave ballads and one snappish dance-punk track. At the same time, the album is full of echoing phrases ("The days get longer" in one song, "Life gets longer" in another; "good news" morphs into "good times" and "good luck") that make each song sound like part of the same cracked story.
In "Bury Me With It," Mr. Brock slips into character as a man whose time has passed, barking, "Well, the suit got tight and it split at the seams/ But I kept it out of habit and I kept it real clean/ But if it's getting faded, if it's running out of thread / Could you do this for me my friend?/ And please just please! / Bury me with it." Time and trends have conspired to turn him into the old-fashioned crank he has always pretended to be â?? he seems happy to celebrate his own obsolescence, and happier still that he doesn't have to do it alone.