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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: starcrash on April 05, 2004, 10:34:00 am
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What are the chances that the 9:30 club will give a buy one get one free deal on one of the Air shows? $35 is pretty steep.
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if they do that, i'd want $35 back (bought two tix.)
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My crystal balls say slim, very slim. They wouldnt have added the second show unless they were confident of reasonable turnouts. Normally 2 for 1's have been cheaper shows, as well.
I might go too, I havent got tickets either. I dont have the new album, is it any good?
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The new album is excellent. I may go to the Friday show, which by the way, was on Air's tour schedule a long time before 9:30 posted it.
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The opening act, Mosquitos is playing for free at Dupont Ollson's Friday at 1:30. Pleasant though unspectacular Brazilian-influences pop.
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I love their music but won't shell out $35 for their show... but I'd be there in a heartbeat if there was a 2-fer-1.
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Originally posted by starcrash:
I may go to the Friday show, which by the way, was on Air's tour schedule a long time before 9:30 posted it.
Yes I know, but if they had only sold a few tickets for Thursday, I am pretty sure they wouldnt have done the Friday show. Nothing is official until tickets go on sale at the club.
But the second night was announced quite late, making me think demand for the first night was not so great, but I bet there will be plenty of people who decide to go at the last minute. I just think its that kind of band.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
My crystal balls say slim, very slim. They wouldnt have added the second show unless they were confident of reasonable turnouts. Normally 2 for 1's have been cheaper shows, as well.
I might go too, I havent got tickets either. I dont have the new album, is it any good?
What, you haven't read the review of it on BigYawn? (http://www.bigyawn.net)
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I had read it. But the reviewer confesses to not really knowing much about the band, which I consider a minor flaw. I guess the people who post here may well be experts on the band and have different opinions.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
My crystal balls say slim, very slim. They wouldnt have added the second show unless they were confident of reasonable turnouts. Normally 2 for 1's have been cheaper shows, as well.
Built to Spill did a 2 for 1 deal on their second show last year. But yes, it was a much cheaper show than Air.
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link (http://emek.net/mx_gallery/air.html) to a pretty cool air poster by emek
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I've got everything Air has ever done...this is probably their most consistent record. Great, great stuff...$35 is very steep, but it will be worth it. It's going to be a great show!
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Originally posted by brennser:
link (http://emek.net/mx_gallery/air.html) to a pretty cool air poster by emek
Very cool brennser - he showed me the test prints @ Flatstock (I bought the Pixies poster from him). He was quite excited and proud of the Air poster. He hadn't decided on a color at the time though. Turned out great.
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If people don't like the new album (personally I think it's fantastic), I wouldn't spend $35 since they pretty much play the same setlist nightly and it's basically all of Talkie Walkie and just a spattering of songs off other albums (Le Femme De Argent, Talisman, Sexy Boy, Playground Love, etc.)
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Originally posted by elj:
If people don't like the new album (personally I think it's fantastic), I wouldn't spend $35 since they pretty much play the same setlist nightly and it's basically all of Talkie Walkie and just a spattering of songs off other albums (Le Femme De Argent, Talisman, Sexy Boy, Playground Love, etc.)
Fantastic information, Thankyou. I guess I will go and buy the album today then.
Do they play much off of 10 000 legend? I really like that album.
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anyone know who is Air's touring band? i know jason falkner has played bass with them in the past, as well as other members of jellyfish/moog cookbook axis.
there is a widely circulating rumour that jason falkner has been tapped by paul mccartney to join him for a project. this would tres cool because mccartney does his best work with an equally talented collaborator.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Do they play much off of 10 000 legend? I really like that album.
Unfortunately no. People In The City is pretty much the only song that shows up with any regularity. If you want a setlist, PM me (some people don't like the suprise ruined or whatever so I won't post one on here).
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
anyone know who is Air's touring band? i know jason falkner has played bass with them in the past, as well as other members of jellyfish/moog cookbook axis.
I do not think Jason is on this tour. Earl Harvin has alternated between drums and bass on various songs this tour and Dave Palmer has been on keyboards. I don't know the other musicians.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
there is a widely circulating rumour that jason falkner has been tapped by paul mccartney to join him for a project. this would tres cool because mccartney does his best work with an equally talented collaborator.
like Stevie Wonder? :eek:
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Originally posted by elj:
[QBUnfortunately no. People In The City is pretty much the only song that shows up with any regularity. If you want a setlist, PM me (some people don't like the suprise ruined or whatever so I won't post one on here). [/QB]
Darn, I kinda like the surprise too. I will just go and but Walkie talkie. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
there is a widely circulating rumour that jason falkner has been tapped by paul mccartney to join him for a project. this would tres cool because mccartney does his best work with an equally talented collaborator.
like Stevie Wonder? :eek: [/b]
Or Linda McCartney.
:eek: :eek:
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ok i was thinking about elvis costello
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yeah... i guess we'll see Air at Coachella anyway, right?!?
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the rumours of jason falkner working with sir paul are confirmed... it will be a little beatles meets jellyfish, greys, three o'clock. it's nice to see paul working with some i think is a very talented singer/songwriter/musician.
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I'm listening to "Sexy Boy" right now...can't wait for tonight!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
ok i was thinking about elvis costello
What about Michael Jackson?
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I could google them but....can anyone tell me about Mosquitos? Much abliged.
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Originally posted by El Tee:
I could google them but....can anyone tell me about Mosquitos? Much abliged.
Mosquitos
Anopheles gambiae
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Arthropoda
Class: Insecta
Order: Diptera
Family: Culicidae
Genera: see text
Mosquitoes are insects belonging to the order Diptera; genera include Anopheles, Culex, Psorophora, Ochlerotatus, Aedes, Sabethes, Wyeomyia, Culiseta, and Haemagoggus for a total of around 35 genera into which are placed about 2700 species. They have two scaled wings, halteres, a slender body, and long legs; size varies but is rarely greater than 15 mm.
In most female mosquitoes, the mouth parts form a long proboscis for piercing the skin of mammals (or in some cases birds or even reptiles and amphibians) to suck their blood. The females require protein for egg development, and since the normal mosquito diet consists of nectar and fruit juice, which has no protein, most must drink blood to get the necessary protein. Males differ from females, with mouth parts not suitable for blood sucking. Oddly females of one genus of mosquitoes, Toxorhynchites, never drinks blood. The larvae of the large mosquito are predatory on other mosquito larvae.
The mosquito goes through four distinct stages in its life cycle: egg, larva, pupa, and adult. The length of the first three stages is species- and temperature-dependent. Culex tarsalis may complete its life cycle in 14 days at 20 °C and only ten days at 25 °C. Some species have a life cycle of as little as four days or up to one month. The larvae are the "wigglers" found in puddles or water-filled containers. These breathe atmospheric oxygen through a siphon at the tail end. The pupae are nearly as active as the larvae, but breathe through thoracic "horns" attached to the thoracic spiracles. Most larvae feed on microorganisms, but a few are predatory on other mosquito larvae. Some mosquito larvae, such as those of Wyeomyia live in unusual situations. These mosquito wigglers live either in the water collected in epiphytic bromeliads or inside water stored in carnivorous pitcher plants. Larvae of the genus Deinocerites live in crab holes along the edge of the ocean.
"Mosquito" is a Spanish or Portuguese word meaning little fly, and its use dates back to about 1583. In England mosquitoes were known as gnats.
Much of modern mosquito control is no longer dependent on dangerous pesticides but specialized organisms that eat mosquitos, or infect them with a disease that kills them. Such methods can even be used in Conservation Areas, like the "Forsyth refuge" and the Seaview Marriott Golf Resort, where some major mosquito control is performed and monitored using "killifish" and juvenile eels. The success is documented with most advanced underwater microscopes like the ecoSCOPE. However, outbreaks of human mosquito-borne diseases may still result in fogging with chemicals that are less toxic than those used in the past.
Dragonflies, also known as mosquito hawks, are excellent control agents. Dragonfly naiads consume mosquito larvae in the breeding waters, and adult dragonflies eat adult mosquitoes, particularly the day flying Asian tiger mosquitoes. Fogging for adult mosquitoes can backfire and increase long term populations if it removes dragonflies and other natural controls.
Some mosquitoes are capable of transmitting protozoan diseases such as malaria, filarial diseases like filariasis, and viral diseases such as yellow fever, dengue, encephalitis, and West Nile virus. West Nile Virus was accidentally introduced into the United States in 1999 and by 2003 had spread to almost every state.
Mosquitos weigh only about 2 to 2.5 mg. They can fly at about 1.5 to 2.5 km/h.
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Originally posted by El Tee:
I could google them but....can anyone tell me about Mosquitos? Much abliged.
I got the album a while back, but only gave it one listen (I have way too much new stuff...). It's very bossa nova -- we're talking "Girl from Ipanema" with an american indie flair. I love that kind of stuff (ie, Koop); and this is pretty authentic in terms of the baseline being bossa nova or samba, with the 'indie' layered over that (rather than vice versa). It's sunny and fun, but I can see people hating it or loving it...
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I may try to catch the end of their set if dinner doesn't run over before Air.
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They are playing for free at Dupont Ollsens tomorrow at 1:30, but don't tell anybody. You can also see three live performance videos on their website.
Originally posted by El Tee:
I could google them but....can anyone tell me about Mosquitos? Much abliged.
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mosquitos are definitely worth checking out. heard them a bunch on.... not on whfs. :-)
when is zero-7 coming back? that was one of the best shows of all time....
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so who is going and what night?
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I'm going tommorrow.
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Tomorrow, I think.
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Tomorrow.
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what? I'm going tonight
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going tonight.
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tonight tonight tonight
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Originally posted by brennser:
link (http://emek.net/mx_gallery/air.html) to a pretty cool air poster by emek
I got one in the mail today -- It's great in the flesh.
He threw in a free KCRW poster and a handwritten thank-you note.
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very cool show. too bad they didn't bring in any of the chick singers but they did very well just the same.
killer second encore of femme d'argent. killer j'ai dormi sous l'eau.
the mosquitos were quite a trip as well. guess everyone now covers bizarre love triangle...
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I thought it was a phenomenal show. Absolutely terrific setlist, and the sound was great. Nice selection of older and new material. My only (minor) complaint was no "Alone In Kyoto" which I think is one of the best songs off the new record. It seemed like they were really enjoying themselves too. I liked the Mosquitos a lot...very fun, good opening band. All in all, one of the better shows I've seen in a while, 90 minutes and I didn't feel like it was a ripoff. I'm so excited that I'll get to see them again at Coachella. I'm going to post the set list below, so in case you don't want to see it, just ignore and stop reading here. :) If you do want to see it, scroll down...
Venus
Alpha Beta Gaga (friggin' AMAZING!!!)
J'ai Dormi Sous L'Eau
Surfing On a Rocket
People in the City (also great)
Cherry Blossom Girl
Talisman
Another Day
Le Soleil Est Pres De Moi
Hurricane/Lover
Run
Kelly Watch the Stars
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Radian
Biological
Sexy Boy
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La Femme D'Argent (superb!)
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Thanks for the reviews and set list. That is a bummer they didn't play "Alone in Kyoto". Hmm...
Hey this is probably a question for for the FAQs area, but I thought the doors opened tonight at 9 pm (per tickets.com). Front page says 7:30 pm. I guess tickets.com is accustomed to Friday doors opening at 9.
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"la femme d'argent" was fantastic.
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Impressive show - full, layered, and diverse sound, 2 encores, enthusiastic appreciative crowd...!
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Just saw Mosqitos at Ollsens. Pleasanr, though unspectacular.
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seeing as the forum has shaken off its hangover...
just a few observations about the Friday Air show.
Rhett Baller's Mosquitos observation were spot on. When the groups "Shoot out the Lights" type record comes out, that would be interesting tour to see them on.
While there were some
wish I were chilling in a La-Z-Boy" moments in the set, there were equal numbers of "Hell Yeah" moments as well. For being very much a studio band, with the added drummer Air could really kick it live. What would have been really neat was a little swirling quadrophonic sound especially during the closing "La Femme D'Argent".
It's amazing how a really great drummer can raise the level of a groups live performance several notches. And thanks to elj and google I knew a little more about the very explosive Earl Harvin.
Earl Harvin is primarily a jazz drummer, but don't hold that against him when you see the list of the groups he's played with. Of particular interest is his stint in The The circa 2000. He's also played with MC 900 Foot Jesus, Seal, etc, etc, etc...
Two parting comments, it's always good to see people getting their just deserves and I wonder if the Air tour diary will contain enteries about obnoxious ex-pats at their show.
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Wasn't the second keyboard player Sebastien Tellier, who toured with them 3 years ago?
I agree about the drummer. He kicked ass.
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Did anybody see both Thursday and Friday's shows? How did they compare? Was there a different setlist? Just curious...thanks!
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I saw both performances, and I would have to say that Friday was definitely better. Both nights were amazing, but everything just seemed to be more together on friday night.
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Earl Harvin is primarily a jazz drummer, but don't hold that against him when you see the list of the groups he's played with. Of particular interest is his stint in The The circa 2000. He's also played with MC 900 Foot Jesus, Seal, etc, etc, etc...
not much to add, except to say, yes, Earl Harvin is am amazing drummer - saw him twice w/ The The and he knocked seven shades of shit out of those skins
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Originally posted by shimmeringhaze:
I saw both performances, and I would have to say that Friday was definitely better. Both nights were amazing, but everything just seemed to be more together on friday night.
What were the set differences? I only went to Thursday, and I know they opened with alpha Beta gaga instead of Venus that night. Also, did we not get Radian in the encore, or was I just drunk?
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Originally posted by babaluma:
Wasn't the second keyboard player Sebastien Tellier, who toured with them 3 years ago?
I agree about the drummer. He kicked ass.
Dave Campbell, who plays with Earl Harvin's jazz trio, was the second keyboard player
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
there were equal numbers of "Hell Yeah" moments as well. For being very much a studio band, with the added drummer Air could really kick it live. What would have been really neat was a little swirling quadrophonic sound especially during the closing "La Femme D'Argent".
It's amazing how a really great drummer can raise the level of a groups live performance several notches. And thanks to elj and google I knew a little more about the very explosive Earl Harvin.
Earl Harvin is primarily a jazz drummer, but don't hold that against him when you see the list of the groups he's played with. Of particular interest is his stint in The The circa 2000. He's also played with MC 900 Foot Jesus, Seal, etc, etc, etc...
Wallflowers' band member, Greg Richling posted this update on the Wallflower site: "just got a call from my buddy/keyboardist dave palmer. we met while playing together in fiona apple's band in 1996 in europe. he has informed me that he is touring with the band AIR. i, of course, freaked out upon hearing this and congratulated him on getting this great gig, then freaked that there is no LA date. so, i told him i'm flying out to see him in oakland, ca and to meet the other cats. they're touring as a 4 piece with just dave on keys and earl harvin on drums. should be incredible. he said it's been a lot of hard work to cover everything that a six or seven piece band usually tackles. but dave and earl are amazing and i'm sure the shows have been great."
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Article link (http://query.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?tntget=2004/04/15/arts/music/15AIR.html&tntemail0)
April 15, 2004
POP REVIEW | AIR
Making a Musical World That's All of a Piece
By KELEFA SANNEH
The New York Times
Remember when CD's seemed like the future? They were indestructible (except when they weren't), they never skipped (except when they did), and they were cheaper to manufacture than vinyl records (although not of course cheaper to buy). They also made some listeners nostalgic for vinyl records: in the CD age albums got longer, less consistent, more shapeless.
Now, with the rise of MP3's and other digital formats, it may be time for a new nostalgia: CD nostalgia. In the CD age there were no interruptions: you didn't have to get up to flip the record, and you didn't get to pick and choose which songs you would add to your iPod. You swallowed a CD whole, like a pill, then waited for it to take effect.
And so if you're wondering how two self-effacing Frenchmen who call themselves Air managed to fill up the vast Hammerstein Ballroom on Tuesday night â?? without the benefit of a mainstream hit or a huge discography, without any public image to speak of â?? the answer is that they made a CD that could be swallowed whole. That CD is "Moon Safari," their intoxicating 1998 debut, full of wistful chord progressions and undulating textures.
"Moon Safari" was an album that bar managers and dinner-party hosts and shop owners could put on and forget about: it was smooth and seductive all the way through. If you think this sounds like the description of mere background music, then you're wrong about the "mere" but right about the rest. During Tuesday night's seductive concert, the duo found ways to make their background music fill the ballroom, turning simple songs into immersive experiences.
Air's second studio album, "10,000 Hz Legend," was more jagged and adventurous than "Moon Safari," but its new album, "Talkie Walkie" (Astralwerks/EMI), is more swallowable: the singing (by the two musicians themselves) is sometimes stilted, but the arrangements are pristine; onstage the duo (aided by two more musicians) found ways to reproduce the warmth and precision of the CD. For "Alpha Beta Gaga," based on a leisurely 10/4 beat, Jean-Benoît Dunckel played key-tar (a strap-on synthesizer) and Nicolas Godin whistled the tune while a bed of glimmering electronic sound washed over them.
Lighted from behind, the musicians were reduced to silhouettes, as featureless as the purposely generic love songs they sing. Before "Run," Mr. Dunckel announced, "Of course it's about a girl, it's always about the same girl." Then he sang, "Stay with me, I feel sad when you run, run, run, run," and a sampler kept repeating this last word: it sounded like a skipping CD.