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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: brennser on June 17, 2004, 09:41:00 am
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I imagine lots of you will be at this one celebrating Fathers Day with the hipster MTV kiddies - me and the missus will be there
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I'm atttending as well.
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still not completely sold on them, but will be at this one as well
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kosmette and i are in... anyone up for a little preconcert feedbag fest?
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i'll be thereeeeeee
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i was born for this gig...heh. front and center for me.
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i will be at this show. . .
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I'll be there.
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I will be there, well if I remember whether my tickets are will call, or should have turned up in the post already....
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Christ almighty --
If Thirsty and NKOTBIE show up, it'll be Forum member Yahtzee.
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No way Jose. I don't have a ticket. However !!! is still open for business.
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Thirsty and I share a brain. We will be doing the bugaloo all night long on Sunday.
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No way Jose. I don't have a ticket. However !!! is still open for business.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Christ almighty --
If Thirsty and NKOTBIE show up, it'll be Forum member Yahtzee.
I won't be.... :( but thanks for thinking of me... :confused:
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If any of you feel like doing something after the gig, stop by The Blue Room for ATMOSPHERE (we are open until 2 a.m.)! :)
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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Thank God I'm not the only one going, I was getting worried there for a second.
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I will be there.
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I'll be there too.
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I have tickets but also would love to check out chk, chk, chk...anyone have any idea how long FF will be playing for? thanks.
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I'm going (and may have two extra tix, fyi). Wondering about the openers in terms of planning when to get there, etc.
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You're in for a treat. I saw them on a late night show this week and was bummed to not be able to see them again.
Enjoy.
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Not sure yet. Have tickets in hand, but not sure I want to be there bad enough to go solo.
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Wow, I didn't realize people were still hung up on going to shows alone. I would have missed a shitload of shows if I allowed myself to get caught up in that mindest.
I'm going to FF solo and plan to have a great time. :)
Originally posted by Taster:
Not sure yet. Have tickets in hand, but not sure I want to be there bad enough to go solo.
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Don't get me wrong, I do it all the time--especially at the Black Cat. But its always funner to have company.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Wow, I didn't realize people were still hung up on going to shows alone. I would have missed a shitload of shows if I allowed myself to get caught up in that mindest.
I'm going to FF solo and plan to have a great time. :)
Originally posted by Taster:
Not sure yet. Have tickets in hand, but not sure I want to be there bad enough to go solo.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No way Jose. I don't have a ticket. However !!! is still open for business.
i'm thinking about that one too. depends on when i get back from the woods
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normally, i would be working this show or going to it, but i'm driving to philly on sunday to see bardo pond, mazarin, and the legendary swedish psych band TRAD GRAS OCH STENAR, which will be well worth the trek.
i'm very curious to hear what FF are like live. i think sons & daughters shares a member with arab strap.
concerning !!!, they're fun to watch because of their energy, but i can't stand the singer most of the time. he's much better in out hud. white magic didn't impress me too much when i saw them open for deerhoof, but that was last year and i hear they've improved immensely.
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Originally posted by Taster:
Don't get me wrong, I do it all the time--especially at the Black Cat. But its always funner to have company.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Wow, I didn't realize people were still hung up on going to shows alone. I would have missed a shitload of shows if I allowed myself to get caught up in that mindest.
I'm going to FF solo and plan to have a great time. :)
Originally posted by Taster:
Not sure yet. Have tickets in hand, but not sure I want to be there bad enough to go solo.
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The good thing about being a steady memeber of this board is that even if you go to a show alone, you are likely to run into other board members. Happens every time for me.
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I'll be there, and am really looking forward to seeing FF. I've listened to that damn record at least 100 times. Every song on there is good, and several of them are great.
That said, I'm very very very bummed to be missing The !!! show. Saw them at the 2003 Siren Fest and thought it was amazing, and I'll bet it's the (far) better of the two shows. I'm sure FF will be good, but I expect it will be like seeing the Strokes or Weezer: good songs that are played exactly as they are on the record.
Was really struggling with which to go to, but since !!! are from NYC, chances are better they'll be back. But if both shows can be done, I'm going to do it.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
but i'm driving to philly on sunday to see bardo pond
ahhh, bardo pond, one of my faves in college. . .did you see the bardo pond/mogwai show a few years back? loud loud loud
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Every live review (critics and skeptical fans on other message boards) I've read on FF has given them high marks on their live show. The latest issue of The Big Takeover has a nice write-up on them.
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VB, i did not see the mogwai/bardo show at the 9:30, but i did see it in NYC at irving. those are two of my favorite bands. the 9:30 show is sort of legendary because mogwai totally blew the speakers (blame it on their soundman). the sound at irving was ridiculously loud, too.
relaxer, !!! is playing the ottobar on saturday, if you have a car, motorcycle, or golden chariot.
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i shall be there expecting a a house cd in exchange for a shaun ryder/british sea power/shane mcgowan video maybe i will put then jerico performing muscle deep on it (i know sounds abit rude).
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Not going, didn't get a ticket in time. Incidentally, did anyone notice how bored the bassist looked on Conan? The two guys playing guitar were moving around and rocking out but he was just standing there looking dull.
On a semi-related note, what kind of guitar does that one guy have? I've never seen one like it before.
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I'm going! Can't wait :D
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Not only will I be at the show, but I will probably also be dancing in the front row.
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anyone else going to their show tonight in nyc?
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Not only will I be at the show, but I will probably also be dancing in the front row.
dancing with me! :D
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you shall be getting multiple A House cds! more than you can shake a stick at
Originally posted by bungle bud:
i shall be there expecting a a house cd in exchange for a shaun ryder/british sea power/shane mcgowan video maybe i will put then jerico performing muscle deep on it (i know sounds abit rude).
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
I'll be there, and am really looking forward to seeing FF. I've listened to that damn record at least 100 times. Every song on there is good, and several of them are great.
No joke- I went through 3 copies. How the hell do all my CDs get so scratched? This is the most I've been excited about a show since The Shins @ Black Cat. :D
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Well, if you're like my brother then you don't put them in their case. Does that bother anyone else to no end?
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I think I just need to invest in an iPod.
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brennser i missinformed you, it was then jerico performing the motive not muscle deep, ofcourse i put PURESSENCE on the tape along with marion.
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
anyone else going to their show tonight in nyc?
when is the show in nyc?
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erm tonight
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Originally posted by cass:
Originally posted by SalParadise:
anyone else going to their show tonight in nyc?
when is the show in nyc? [/b]
cass, which weighs more:
a pound of feathers or a pound of concrete?
j/k
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Glasgow's Franz Ferdinand brought their unique brand of arty rock'n'roll to the offices of SPIN on Tuesday, delighting staff members and sandwich caterers alike with a short acoustic set. According to singer/guitarist Alex Kapranos, the band had never before performed a live acoustic set before. Everyone was so impressed that Kapranos declared the band would soon be performing unplugged in the subway for "coppers." Great Scot! Franz Ferdinand will be playing NYC's Webster Hall tonight and at club Volume tomorrow night; the Shampoo club in Philly on Saturday; the 9:30 club in DC on Sunday; and the Cotton Club in Atlanta next Tuesday.
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there's a short review of franz ferdinand's album in today's weekend. . i'll post it if anyone wants to read it, but i have to write this. . it's the last sentence of the review after stating that FF is in the middle of glasgow's music movement (between belle and sebastian and mogwai): "indeed, franz ferdinand just might turn out to be the Scottish Roxy Music."
can't wait for mankie's comment on this.
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Helicon1 and I will be there! Can't wait! It's always better on holiday (does Fathers' Day count?)!
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Has anyone ever heard either of the opening bands? S&D have a website and clips http://www.sonsanddaughtersloveyou.co.uk (http://www.sonsanddaughtersloveyou.co.uk) but I've never heard of delegate...
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Anyone meeting up pre-show?
I'm planning on stopping by Polly's before heading over. Um, I'll be the black chick eating a hamburger and drinking beer. :)
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a review of last nights show in new york
www.vh1.com (http://www.vh1.com)
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Franz Ferdinand is going to be HUGE. Be glad we all got to see at the 9:30 club, because the venues are only going to get bigger and more impersonal. The band was clearly having fun on stage with natural rock star moves to boot. Speaking of boots, fab shoes all around. Well I'm off to order some EPs...
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what'd they play for the encore? I had to leave early.
show pet peeve: people who think jumping up and down is somehow dancing. it's not, sorry. there was one guy in front of me doing that for awhile and I thought he was going to knock me down. his friend was pretty crazy too. I think I was in the people who can't dance section. which is pretty fitting, actually.
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Fan-fuckin-tastic show tonight! So much energy on stage and within the crowd (see, DC crowds can dance if they want to!). Nick was getting down while playing keyboard. Can't wait for the DVD!
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Built speed as the night progressed (short night at that... but). The two opening songs were by far my least favorite on the album... after that things go rolling. But you know, it's only rock and roll. Nothing new here (there). I liked the show, but whether or not they become "huge" is just a matter of how they are marketed. So I couldn't care less. They were good. Would I rank them in the top ten bands I've seen live?... No.
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what a fantastic show!! i thought sons and daughters were really great - it didn't hurt that their vocalist was an insanely gorgeous scotsman ;) - pretty reminiscient of FF but whatever. does anyone know where i can get some cd's of theirs?
i loved FF's set - it was tight, energetic, and made me want to shake my ass. dc people DO dance if they 1) try to 2) have enough drinks in 'em + great music or 3) everyone else around them is, so they have to join in. there was some crazy woman in front of me - literally running in place the entire show - but she was having a great time so i guess all the power to her.
and yes - jumping up and down is NOT dancing, but it's better than just standing around in some cases.
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Agree on Sons and Daughters, they were really great. After seeing them last night, I remember hearing a couple of their songs on 97x, but not knowing the band's name.
I just looked up their name on Amazon.com and it seems a lot of folks who bought Franz Ferdinand are also buying their stuff.
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The music was excellent but, as brennser pointed out after the show, the act seemed a bit "staged" at times.
I think I would have preferred to see them on a night when they weren't taping a DVD. But it was still a good time. 7 out of 10.
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I thought they were good - great songs, good attitude but I did find myself wondering why I wasn't being moved more by the whole experience - in a way I think the DVD filming made both the band and the crowd a little self conscious - there was lots of mugging for the camera and people cheering louder when they thought the camera was on them...I dunno....maybe I'm a curmudgeon, or maybe after seeing Ted Leo and Mclusky the previous two nights they had a lot to live up to...
kosmos right though - they're gonna be huge
thanks for the vids bungle
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sadly, i think they next time they'll swing back into dc it will be for the hfs nutcracker or hstival...kosmo's right, no more 930 club atmosphere for them again. they've gone the route of mtv darlings. *sigh*
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Got the Sons and Daughters EP at the show, dig that crazy Bo Diddley beat.
They are on Ba Da Bing Records (http://thevessyl.org/badabing/home.html)
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I'd give it a 9. I thought they were fantastic. They rocked harder than on the CD, but still had that great dancing groove. What a great time.
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Incredible show, their rendition of Take Me Out was amazing - very disco-ish which really got the crowd moving... just great energy by the band all through the night... I'm def glad I saw them in a more intimate venue especially since some of their shows were at bigger places (Webster Hall, and Volume is a Brooklyn warehouse!)
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Also, check out their official site (http://www.sonsanddaughtersloveyou.co.uk/). They just signed to Domino Records.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
They are on Ba Da Bing Records (http://thevessyl.org/badabing/home.html)
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how was this non dancing jumping around different from pogoing?
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Originally posted by pollard:
how was this non dancing jumping around different from pogoing?
less unified and with no prior knowledge of what pogoing is?
i should have also added that while the filming aspect made the crowd more energetic i'm sure, it did seem as though the audience (not the band) was almost trying too hard.. it was really annoying when everyone would throw their hands into the camera as the guys did a sweeping shot of the audience, etc. but then i also thought " hm what a great idea, tell the audience you're filming a live dvd and their energy and attention will increase dramatically!!" and then not really film at all. at least every show would be consistently fun!
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Originally posted by gellman:
Incredible show, their rendition of Take Me Out was amazing - very disco-ish which really got the crowd moving..
the red house painters song?
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I caught the DC show last night and it was great. BTW, I was the guy throwing up the horns and bouncing to the music. Sure, I got some shitty looks from morose, shoegazing hipster wankers that felt they were entitled to thumb their nose at everyone who wasn't acting like it was a Califone show. A little heads up people, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And if my singing along to 'Dark of the Matinee' irritated you, the next time FF comes to town, my advice to you is to stay at home, because I'll be there doing the same thing again. (http://www.stereogum.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=631)
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Thought the show was a load of fun but while I was impressed, I was not blown away. Musically, the band was remarkably tight but I thought Alex's singing was pretty lazy on some songs. And the harmonies were excreable at times. I was suprised that the band (with the exception of Alex) is so genuinely dweeby. Here I was thinking it was all affectation but I decided by the end of the show that the guitarist/keyboardist's Freaks-n-Geeks-like presence was no act.
I wanted to like Sons and Daughters more but the dreadfulness of the two singers was too hard to ignore -- like John Doe and Exene Cervenka gone horribly wrong. However, I was very amused by the scowling bass player who was so mechanized and devoid of energy that I wanted to demand that she be returned to the Robert Palmer video she was borrowed from.
I wore my Coachella t-shirt and was suprised by the number of people asking me how certain bands were. Bring on 2005!
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I agree with those who are saying this might be the last time to see them in a place so small. I bought the album purely on the recomendation of a friend without hearing any of it before, and it has yet to stray far from my cd player. More and more people are buying it (it finally cracked the top 50 on the Billboard charts just recently), and they are blowing up on mtv and radio...last night just might be one of those "we were there" type shows for those of us who attended.
And with that said, I thought the crowd was rather tame for live music of that energy. Seemed like it took them playing "Take Me Out" in the middle of the set to get people to start moving around, and then suprisingly, people went off for "Michael." Knowing we might never see them in such an intimate venue again made me want to take advantage of it and move around some. Oh well, excellent show, and I really enjoyed Sons and Daughters as well.
Did anyone get a setlist, or does anyone have any idea of the order of songs? I suck at remembering that sort of stuff.
And yeah bring on Coachella 05. I had a blast at 04, I asked someone about their shirt on my way out, it might have been you haha
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Bwhahahaha!!! I thought the same thing! I said, "This chick is straight out of 'Addicted to Love,' but she's really playing her instrument."
Originally posted by Shiverintheshadows:
However, I was very amused by the scowling bass player who was so mechanized and devoid of energy that I wanted to demand that she be returned to the Robert Palmer video she was borrowed from.
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Originally posted by freddyadu:
Originally posted by gellman:
Incredible show, their rendition of Take Me Out was amazing - very disco-ish which really got the crowd moving..
the red house painters song? [/b]
you don't own a radio or a tv, do you?
i don't think they could turn that painters song into anything remotely as upbeat.
ok, i wasn't nearly as impressed with sons and daughters as the rest of y'all were. . .after hearing the drummer play the same progression to the same beat. . .i got bored. . .then hearing 3 chord songs with a girl "wailing" off key, i just don't know. i will say that there is a ton of room for improvement, and maybe they'll learn a few more notes and chords.
as for franz ferdinand. . .i noted to ggw, i'm glad to see that 80s guitar tones are back in style. that being said, thought they put on a great show, even if the crowd was full of high schoolers who had to borrow their mom's mini van to drive all their friends to the show.
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I snagged a set list -- I'll post it tonight or tomorrow for you...after the show nick proceeded to sign and then scribble all over it...
Originally posted by alex:
Did anyone get a setlist, or does anyone have any idea of the order of songs? I suck at remembering that sort of stuff.
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I went not expecting to be blown away and it turned out to be a great show. I agree that the vocals were not the best. Perhaps they were mixed out as to not expose vocal weakness (which in a way is a virtue for them) but who really gives a fuck. They sounded great and they put on a fantastic show. They have a great style and even though the media is taking them on a baloon ride, at least they are promoting a band that actually deserves recognition. Bravo.
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Man, Sunday shows are tough (though Mondays are the worst, in my book). Hence, I'm amazed at how much I enjoyed the show. While I really like the album, I'm not in love/lust with it the way some of my friends are, and the live venue really brought out a better energy and overall vibe. Some of it was bit stagey, but I loved it. Especially Nicholas, the keyboard-playing guitar player with all the 80s dance moves and Kyle Machlachlan posing.
Interestingly, while some of you noted that this may be the last time we see them in a venue of this size, about midway through the show I could clearly visualize them at the Black Cat -- a smaller show which could just blow the audience away. Oh how I wish they hadn't skipped that step.
I was in the back, so I'm sure I missed out on a bit of the energy of the place, but I still had dancing fans around me (including one blonde hipster chick who kept dancing with her man and never once looked over to check out the band!), and I got to see Skeeter! [Sorry I didn't get to say bye, Marni and I snuck up for the encore to check out the band close up close.]
Wish I could have hung out after the show, but a long weekend left me with little zest for anything but sleep! 'Cuz damn, there were a lot of boardies there!
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*slaps forehead* That's who he reminded me of...
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Especially Nicholas, the keyboard-playing guitar player with all the 80s dance moves and Kyle Machlachlan posing.
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shiver me timbers that was quite the show! i overdosed on teenagers, though. but it was such a good show that the annoying teenies didn't take away from the overall fantasticness that was this show. my only sadness comes from the fact that i too think the next time the franz return it won't be to the 9:30...but we'll always have the live dvd (whenever it comes out)
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I thought it was one of the better shows I've been to so far this year. The audience energy was definitely higher than normal for a 9:30 Club show. I enjoyed it immensely.
I was really impressed by FF's performance. Every song sounded better live than on the album, I thought.
Where can I buy the DVD that was supposedly being recorded?
The crowd was a bit on the young side, but not annoyingly so.
Sons and Daughters was OK, but not particularly good really.
Nicholas reminded me of Kyle Maclachlan as well! It's like he could be Kyle's twin or something.
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thumbs up to darth ed for typing up the rest of my reactions to the show ;)
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Dukes of Happiness
Franz Ferdinand, Forgetting to Frown
By David Segal
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 22, 2004; Page C01
When you name a band Franz Ferdinand -- after the Austrian archduke whose assassination sparked the First World War and led to a far-reaching realignment of global power -- either you have a deep sense of a history or an impish sense of humor. It could mean "We will ignite a bonfire and change rock for a good long time," or "Dance, everybody, and while you're at it, dig our goofy name."
The Scottish quartet that played the 9:30 club Sunday night couldn't possibly have international upheaval on its collective mind. Revolutionaries, for one thing, tend to take themselves too seriously, and nobody will accuse the FF boys of that. For 60 fiery and unblushing minutes, they leaped, swiveled and did slow, Elvis Presley-style arm sweeps that probably came across as provocative in the late '50s. Lead singer and guitarist Alex Kapranos smiled a lot, and when he returned for a two-song encore, his shirt was unbuttoned -- a breach of indie rock's anti-exhibitionism rule if there ever was one.
It's an attitude that sparkles through the band's self-titled debut album, which was released in March and hailed by the British press with the sorts of reviews that can doom a young band. ("Best new band in Britain," raved the music magazine NME.) Their abundant lack of gloom sets them starkly apart from the fashionably aloof, slightly retro bands they have borrowed from and now will compete against, most notably the Strokes and Interpol.
The branch of the family tree from which all of these bands descend has some pretty dour and depressive relatives in its recent past. New Order and the Cure are particular inspirations to Franz Ferdinand (as are more cheerful Brit-pop standard-bearers, like Blur, whose 1994 tune "Girls and Boys" is echoed time and again on FF's album.) But if Kapranos and co-songwriter and co-singer/guitarist Nick McCarthy brood in their lyrics about breakups and romantic disappointments, they bury those sentiments under chirpy beats and harmonized choruses that turn every song into a dance number.
The disco-fied "This Fire" is about a guy so enraged by something or other that he wants to set his city ablaze. Without a lyric sheet, you'd never guess that "Cheating on You" is a nasty get-lost to an unfaithful girlfriend -- between their brogue and how low the vocals were mixed, it was hard to tell what Kapranos and McCarthy were singing, for starters. But the music has a happy-hour glow that simply obliterates the darkness of the words. It's as though Franz Ferdinand learned at the feet of some grim-faced masters, then realized their own outlook was too sunny and their own personalities too extroverted to bum anyone out or to feign anxiety.
In part, that's because they're addicted to a fast, almost campy tempo that had everyone at the 9:30 in motion for almost the entire show. It gets difficult to tell Franz Ferdinand's songs apart after a while because they all eventually follow the same jumping-jack beat and most of them land with the all-at-once finality and thunk of a lawn dart. The charitable take is that, at least for the time being, they're specialists. They do one thing and they do it very well.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59213-2004Jun21.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59213-2004Jun21.html)
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Set list from Sunday's show:
Cheating on you
tell her tonight
auf achse
jacqueline
40 feet
take me out
love and destroy
van tango
natinee
come on home
michael
dars of pleasure
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shopping for blood
bang bang???
this fire
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
When you name a band Franz Ferdinand -- after the Austrian archduke whose assassination sparked the First World War and led to a far-reaching realignment of global power --
Oh, that Franz Ferdinand. I thought it was the other one.
Now if he would just tell me how to pronounce !!! I would be set.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Now if he would just tell me how to pronounce !!! I would be set.
FYI:
!!! is pronounced as any three repetitive sounds.
Common interpretations are chicchicchic, powpowpow, uhuhuh, among many unlimited possibilities.
http://brainwashed.com/!!!/bio.html (http://brainwashed.com/!!!/bio.html)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Now if he would just tell me how to pronounce !!! I would be set.
FYI:
!!! is pronounced as any three repetitive sounds.
Common interpretations are chicchicchic, powpowpow, uhuhuh, among many unlimited possibilities.
http://brainwashed.com/!!!/bio.html (http://brainwashed.com/!!!/bio.html) [/b]
Way to quote the sticker on the album!
Actually, I've had fun both times I've gone into stores to buy their albums asking where they're filed. Most stores, I guess, file them under "Chk chk chk" but one filed it as the first album, before the A's.
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New site is up (http://www.franzferdinand.co.uk/)