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Title: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 01:15:00 pm
1) I've been to 9:30 Club more than 10 times, and this was the first non-smoking show (except for the dreary basement). Why?
 
 2) Why did they only play 40 minutes?
 
 3) Why was the staff so out of its freaking mind? I had a guy outdoors lecture me about what they'd do to me and my evil camera phone if they saw me use it. I wanted to just pat him on the back and tell him it would be OK.
 
 4) Why was beer served in cups and not in bottles, as usual? Another 9:30 first for me.
 
 5) Why have the Beasties forsaken instruments?
 
 6) Why did they take such a late flight?
 
 7) Why were ther 13 year old girls with braces walking around in CBGB shirts (I swear I must have seen 8 or 9 of those shirts).
 
 8) Why was I patted down for this show and not for Wilco? Oh wait I know the answer to that one, scratch that.
 
 9) Why did I feel like I was at a high school church lockin?
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Random Citizen on June 18, 2004, 01:38:00 pm
Non-smoking shows are done at the artist's request. PJ Harvey does this as well.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 01:45:00 pm
Ah, thanks. I was blaming in on the "radio station." And I'll remember that when PJ comes around too.
 
 I also thought of another question: When did MCA stop trying? He was kind of pathetic to watch last night.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: eltee on June 18, 2004, 01:46:00 pm
#4 can be scratched too. same as #8
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 01:49:00 pm
That's weird. We had bottles for the Cypress Hill show.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: m_to_the_c on June 18, 2004, 01:52:00 pm
This was a promotional show. I bet they have some outdated contract that binds them to doing radio shows, otherwise, i cannot fathom why the same band that gave us the Tibetan Freedom Festival is doing weenie roasts all over the east coast.
 
 And as far as why they took such a late flight, they are rock stars people. If I wrote Hello Nasty, I'd show up at the last minute, and have all the kids hanging on my last word.
 
 The staff was doing their job. I bet the management had them prepped for whatever blitzkrieg could have happened, given such skewed supply and demand. I give them credit for not allowing me (at first) to bring beer to my friend.
 
 I bought my CB's shirt when my band played there. Urban Outfitters has made a mockery of any kind of cred of making it in there. Now, if only I could work the same thing out with the Budokanâ?¦
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: saco on June 18, 2004, 01:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
  1) I've been to 9:30 Club more than 10 times, and this was the first non-smoking show (except for the dreary basement). Why?
 
 Artist request.  More and more artists are requesting this.  Your first time, but certainly not the first or last.
 
 2) Why did they only play 40 minutes?
 
 Good question. I cannot answer it however.
 
 3) Why was the staff so out of its freaking mind? I had a guy outdoors lecture me about what they'd do to me and my evil camera phone if they saw me use it. I wanted to just pat him on the back and tell him it would be OK.
 
 My apologies.   High profile shows like this are by definition more stressful than most everyday shows.  
 
 First of all, we were under a strict camera policy.
 
 Secondly: Scalping.
 
 You yourself posted in the Wilco thread about scalpers.  
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
  Would you believe there are already jerks on eBay selling thier 9:30 Club tickets for Wilco at more than $100 a pair? That's pretty shitty if you ask me. I'm all for capitalism and all, but  come on guys. . .
The hoops you had to go thru outside were in place for several reasons, with the idea of detering scalping to the best of our abilities chief among them.  
 
 4) Why was beer served in cups and not in bottles, as usual? Another 9:30 first for me.
 
 This happens occassionally to deter the presence of dozens of bottles on the floor and possible broken ankles, etc.  
 
 5) Why have the Beasties forsaken instruments?
 
 See answer to question 2.
 
 6) Why did they take such a late flight?
 
 ?  Cause they intended to make us all wait for 3 hours and then take a train instead. C'mon.
 
 7) Why were ther 13 year old girls with braces walking around in CBGB shirts (I swear I must have seen 8 or 9 of those shirts).
 
 See answers to questions 2 and 5.  
 
 8) Why was I patted down for this show and not for Wilco? Oh wait I know the answer to that one, scratch that.
 
 See answer to question 3.
 
 9) Why did I feel like I was at a high school church lockin?
 
 At the outset, see answer to question 3.  After the announcement about the delay, you were allowed to leave anytime you wanted, most people did leave and come back.
 
 [/b]
OH, did you enjoy the free pizza?
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 01:57:00 pm
indeed. a nice touch!
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Medusa on June 18, 2004, 02:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
 6) Why did they take such a late flight?
 
I wasn't at the gig last night, but I heard from someone who was that the reason they took a late flight (from N.Y.C. apparently) was that there was bad weather and the flight had to be/was delayed.
 
 Cheers
 
 DJ Medusa.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2004, 02:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  #4 can be scratched too. same as #8
I'm surprised anyone in attendance was old enough to purchase beer.
 
 I bet rules 4 and 8 were enforced based on behaviour at other BB shows, and for no other reason.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Guiny on June 18, 2004, 02:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
 
 7) Why were ther 13 year old girls with braces walking around in CBGB shirts (I swear I must have seen 8 or 9 of those shirts).
I'm no dentist, but I believe the braces are to straighten their teeth.   :roll:
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: eltee on June 18, 2004, 02:17:00 pm
they took the train (the reason is for what you state Medusa).
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Originally posted by Medusa:
   
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
 6) Why did they take such a late flight?
 
I wasn't at the gig last night, but I heard from someone who was that the reason they took a late flight (from N.Y.C. apparently) was that there was bad weather and the flight had to be/was delayed.
 
 Cheers
 
 DJ Medusa. [/b]
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 02:28:00 pm
yes --I guess what I meant by that question was, if you have an 8:30 show, why take a late afternoon flight instead of one earlier in the day?
 
 I mean Hell, get to D.C. a little earlier, hit Ben's Chili Bowl for dinner, head over to Capital Hill to speak to congress about Tibet, check out the Monuments. . . there's all sorts of ways to spend your afternoon in D.C.
 
 Especially if the sage weathermen are calling for storms.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: m1 on June 18, 2004, 02:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
  yes --I guess what I meant by that question was, if you have an 8:30 show, why take a late afternoon flight instead of one earlier in the day?
 
 I mean Hell, get to D.C. a little earlier, hit Ben's Chili Bowl for dinner, head over to Capital Hill to speak to congress about Tibet, check out the Monuments. . . there's all sorts of ways to spend your afternoon in D.C.
 
 Especially if the sage weathermen are calling for storms.
are you on your period or are you always this bitchy & structured  :eek:  ? Hail Hilter Hail Hilter
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: thirsty moore on June 18, 2004, 02:39:00 pm
What does Hilter[sic] have anything to do with complaints?
 
 
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Originally posted by m1:
 are you on your period or are you always this bitchy & structured   :eek:   ? Hail Hilter Hail Hilter
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: poultrynow on June 18, 2004, 02:40:00 pm
I second that sentiment about an earlier flight.  I thought the 1-hour set was tight and we had a great time, but after waiting 5+ hours the word on the street outside the club (that I heard) was that the show was a major letdown.  Maybe if they had gone on at 8:30 and played an hour, fine, but after having us wait so long, at least put on a reasonable show.  Anyone with an eye towards weather knew that we were in for some nasty thunderstorms yesterday.  That said, I wish I had put my dollars to Neko Case instead this week.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2004, 02:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by poultrynow:
  I second that sentiment about an earlier flight.  I thought the 1-hour set was tight and we had a great time, but after waiting 5+ hours the word on the street outside the club (that I heard) was that the show was a major letdown.  Maybe if they had gone on at 8:30 and played an hour, fine, but after having us wait so long, at least put on a reasonable show.  Anyone with an eye towards weather knew that we were in for some nasty thunderstorms yesterday.  That said, I wish I had put my dollars to Neko Case instead this week.
If you weren't blown away by 40 mins of BB you must be an idiot...they are one of the most influential bands that have ever recorded, and nothing short of creative genius's. They only release fun party songs as singles just to keep their talents a secret from the masses, and only the chosen few get to hear the real work of these masters of sampling. Shame on you for expressing anything less than god-like worship about this trio.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2004, 02:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  If you weren't blown away by 40 mins of BB you must be an idiot...they are one of the most influential bands that have ever recorded, and nothing short of creative genius's. They only release fun party songs as singles just to keep their talents a secret from the masses, and only the chosen few get to hear the real work of these masters of sampling. Shame on you for expressing anything less than god-like worship about this trio.
Looking for fake friends again are we?
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 02:51:00 pm
I was certainly not blown away.
 
 I'm glad I got to see them -- they were on my list of "Bands/Acts I want to see before I or they cease to exist." I've always wanted to see them.
 
 But I was not blown away. It was three old guys and a dude with a boom box. One of the old guys obviously didn't give a flip and didn't want to be there. The other two couldn't wait to dance their asses back off the stage.
 
 I did dig "Shake your rump" though. And I was impressed they played "Brass Monkey", though it looked like MCA wanted to crawl behind the turntables and start crying.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2004, 03:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  If you weren't blown away by 40 mins of BB you must be an idiot...they are one of the most influential bands that have ever recorded, and nothing short of creative genius's. They only release fun party songs as singles just to keep their talents a secret from the masses, and only the chosen few get to hear the real work of these masters of sampling. Shame on you for expressing anything less than god-like worship about this trio.
Looking for fake friends again are we? [/b]
Living in America I have tons of them.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2004, 03:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Looking for fake friends again are we?
Living in America I have tons of them. [/b]
You should try to meet more British and Irish people, then.  Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: thirsty moore on June 18, 2004, 03:05:00 pm
Apparently Mankie has forgotten the quote he posted... Fake people attract fake friends.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: markie on June 18, 2004, 03:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show  :mad:
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: m1 on June 18, 2004, 03:07:00 pm
wow - you guys are over here too arguing?! you're all over the place - you must be havin' fun!
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: nkotb on June 18, 2004, 03:08:00 pm
It's cuz you guys all smell like pee.
 
 
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show   :mad:  [/b]
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: m1 on June 18, 2004, 03:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show   :(
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: m1 on June 18, 2004, 03:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  It's cuz you guys all smell like pee.
 
   
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show    :p   !
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: markie on June 18, 2004, 03:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  It's cuz you guys all smell like pee.
 
 
[/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 We knew that would keep you away.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: taylorjohnmark on June 18, 2004, 03:10:00 pm
I fear this thread just derailed. . .
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2004, 03:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
  I fear this thread just derailed. . .
Here, I can save it.
 
 Hey 9:30, why do you keep putting on these super cool special events when all everybody does is bitch about it?
 
 They bitched because they didn't like the ticket buying process.
 
 They bitched if they didn't get tickets.
 
 They bitched about standing line.
 
 They bithced because they couldn't smoke.
 
 They bitched about not having bottled beers.
 
 They bithced because there were too mnay people, yet not enough tickets.
 
 They bitched because you guys were preventing scalping.
 
 They bitched that they were patted down.
 
 They bitched that the sponsor's DJ suck.
 
 They bitched about the sponsors banner.
 
 They bitched because young people got in.
 
 They bitched that the band was late.
 
 They bitched because the band didn't play long enough.
 
 They bitched that the band didn't play instruments.
 
 They bitched because the band made poor travel plans.
 
 They bitched because you guys were keeping order.
 
 They bitched because because they felt like they were back in high school.
 
 They bitched because one member wasn't in full Beastie mode.  
 
 I mean, why do you even bother trying to please the greater DC area and bring cool bands in?
 
 By the way, though I wasn't at the show, I'll be the first on the board to say "thanks" for bringing cool shit 'cause you rock, not just thanks for answering all my bitchy questions.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2004, 03:37:00 pm
Nice one smackie.....I never bitched, but then again I never went....coincidence?  :D  
 
 How many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?
 
 51....1 to change the bulb, 10 to complain, 10 to write a complaint, 10 to return the blown bulb and 20 to file suit.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: nkotb on June 18, 2004, 03:41:00 pm
Honestly, does this old dog have any new tricks?
 
 
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  How many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?
 
 51....1 to change the bulb, 10 to complain, 10 to write a complaint, 10 to return the blown bulb and 20 to file suit.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Sailor Ripley on June 18, 2004, 04:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by m1:
  are you on your period or are you always this bitchy & structured   :eek:   ? Hail Hilter Hail Hilter
I see school's out for summer.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: eltee on June 18, 2004, 04:29:00 pm
I told a friend, no matter what anyone did to accommodate everyone, they would complain. Just the way this town is. You guys got free pizza and got to watch break-dancing. ;)  (btw, where is flawd?) Concert-going, travel scheduling and Mother Nature is not an exact science. I'm sure the guys were complaining at the airport as you all were for their arrival. I still figure they will be back around here for another show soon. (Oh, I did bitch about the banner, but I would complain about it yesterday or today.)
 
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by TheTaylor:
  I fear this thread just derailed. . .
Here, I can save it.
 They bitched that the band was late.
 
 They bitched because the band made poor travel plans. [/b]
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2004, 04:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  Honestly, does this old dog have any new tricks?
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  How many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?
 
 51....1 to change the bulb, 10 to complain, 10 to write a complaint, 10 to return the blown bulb and 20 to file suit.
[/b]
Not since I actually caught my tail...ouch!
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: RatBastard on June 18, 2004, 10:22:00 pm
I went.  Got tickets at the presale.  Drove up from Richmond.  Sttod in line for a long time. Got rained on.  Showed my ID.  Was searched (well if you want to call it that).  Got inside.  Sat at the upstairs bar stools.  Drank cokes and ate pizza.  Saw a show.  Hung out at the back bar.  Drove home.  Oh yeah I saw a show and had a good time.
 
 The guys at the club had their shit together.  They wanted to minimize the scalpers thing (among other things) and it appears they did it for the most part.  I would have liked to have seen a longer show, and it maybe the whole thing did take a lot more effort than the show I saw, but it was good and I had a blast.
 
 See y'all the next time I venture up 95.
 
 
 RB
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: MaLo on June 18, 2004, 11:35:00 pm
there was free pizza???
 
 shit...i shouldn't have left in search of cheaper beers
 
 actually, i don't care if i missed the free pizza...if there were free beer i'd be mad
 
 but all in all, i thought everything at the club was run in a fair and efficient manner...it sucked that the band was late, but whatever, gives you a good story to tell..i had a good time
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: samanthaalison on June 19, 2004, 12:02:00 am
http://www.junkiesradio.com/studiophotos.shtml (http://www.junkiesradio.com/studiophotos.shtml)
 
 
 first two pictures. I know those guys.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on June 19, 2004, 09:54:00 am
most bands would've bailed as soon as their flight was cancelled - and these guys went and got on a train
 
 I was very impressed
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Jaguär on June 19, 2004, 03:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
Quote
Originally posted by poultrynow:
  I second that sentiment about an earlier flight.  I thought the 1-hour set was tight and we had a great time, but after waiting 5+ hours the word on the street outside the club (that I heard) was that the show was a major letdown.  Maybe if they had gone on at 8:30 and played an hour, fine, but after having us wait so long, at least put on a reasonable show.  Anyone with an eye towards weather knew that we were in for some nasty thunderstorms yesterday.  That said, I wish I had put my dollars to Neko Case instead this week.
If you weren't blown away by 40 mins of BB you must be an idiot...they are one of the most influential bands that have ever recorded, and nothing short of creative genius's. They only release fun party songs as singles just to keep their talents a secret from the masses, and only the chosen few get to hear the real work of these masters of sampling. Shame on you for expressing anything less than god-like worship about this trio. [/b]
Bollocks.....you ROOL!!!!!   :D
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Jaguär on June 19, 2004, 04:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  It's cuz you guys all smell like pee.
 
   
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
     
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show     :mad:    [/b]
[/b]
You know, this is funny; at least, to me. Oddly enough, after drinking my 3rd cup of English tea today I couldn't help but wonder if, in general, the average Englishman has to pee more often than the average American. What with all the beer and tea they drink! Those two beverages always make me pee more than many other liquids. Is this why they are always taking the piss out of each other? Or why they call a drinking bout a pisser?
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: webjedi on June 19, 2004, 09:18:00 pm
Oh, for those folks who actually got the album too... some more wood for this particular fire:
 
 http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/06/20/0034203.shtml?tid=141&tid=158&tid=185&tid=188&tid=190&tid=201&tid=99 (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/06/20/0034203.shtml?tid=141&tid=158&tid=185&tid=188&tid=190&tid=201&tid=99)
 
 Sneaky ass copy protection!
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: Bombay Chutney on June 19, 2004, 10:05:00 pm
I've heard that it's actually all EMI discs.  I've also heard that it's only non-US copies.
 
 I have no idea if either of those are true.
Title: Re: The Beasties Fiasco: Questions
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 21, 2004, 09:23:00 am
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   Thheeeeyyyy'rrrreeee Gggrrreeaaatt!!!!!
Yeah, the  American ones agree to meet you somewhere and never show   ;)