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Title: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 06, 2004, 03:58:00 pm
This afternoon the Caps won the rights to the #1 pick...and the Russian phenom Ovechkin
 
  NHL Lottery (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1776780)
 
 They jumped over the Penguins. Fuckers. 5th year in a row where the team with the worst record did not get the #1 pick.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 06, 2004, 04:26:00 pm
two words: mother fuck
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Guiny on April 06, 2004, 04:46:00 pm
They'll just end up trading him to someone for a side of rice pilaf.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 06, 2004, 05:04:00 pm
hey guiny!
 
  did you check out the Northeast division standings lately?
 
   i bet you did  :)
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 06, 2004, 05:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 
  did you check out the Northeast division standings lately?
 
 
Hockey season's over...isn't it?    ;)    
 
 Sports suck anyway. Your favorite team will always just inevitably break your heart.
 
 That's why music is SO much better. Assuming you choose wisely & barring the occasional trainwreck of a show, going to a concert will rarely send you home very unhappy. Versus the ~ approx 50% chance you have every time you go to a sporting event of being a 'loser'.
 
 Yep...that's my new mantra: Music is Better Than Sports. Save your time and $$ & go visit your local record store.
 
 Support Your Local Poet (instead)
 -R Woomble
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Guiny on April 06, 2004, 06:16:00 pm
Hmmmm from what i've been reading lately (Check the Liz Phair thread for a recent one) indie rockers that turn commercial break people's heart also, so whats the difference?
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Rupert Pupkin on April 06, 2004, 08:17:00 pm
Who the hell cares.  The NHL won't even exist after the end of this season.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 07, 2004, 09:49:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  Hmmmm from what i've been reading lately (Check the Liz Phair thread for a recent one) indie rockers that turn commercial break people's heart also, so whats the difference?
easier to start listening to a different band than rooting for a different team
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 07, 2004, 10:01:00 am
If there is a NHL....The Caps will win the Stanley Cup within the next 5 years. It may take all 5 but it will happen.
 
 Remember where you heard it first!
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 07, 2004, 10:45:00 am
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  If there is a NHL....The Caps will win the Stanley Cup within the next 5 years. It may take all 5 but it will happen.
 
 Remember where you heard it first!
the Caps may be the WORST evaluator of talent in all of sports (see Jagr, see other 2 first overall picks in Caps history). I'm not too worried about them. If they think enough of Ovechkin to take him #1...well then, he's probably over-rated.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 07, 2004, 10:57:00 am
haha, i predict they trade the pick for shite
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 07, 2004, 10:58:00 am
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Originally posted by grotty:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Bollocks:
  If there is a NHL....The Caps will win the Stanley Cup within the next 5 years. It may take all 5 but it will happen.
 
 Remember where you heard it first!
the Caps may be the WORST evaluator of talent in all of sports (see Jagr, see other 2 first overall picks in Caps history). I'm not too worried about them. If they think enough of Ovechkin to take him #1...well then, he's probably over-rated. [/b]
Jagr I'll give you, and have already said I thought it was a big mistake the day they got him....draft picks though are just what they are... a lottery ticket. It's very difficult to pick a future franchise player at such an early stage.
 
 For example, who know what will even happen with Adu at DC United? Right now he's the new Pele   :roll:  but he could burn out and hit the nose candy by age 18.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 07, 2004, 12:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Jagr I'll give you, and have already said I thought it was a big mistake the day they got him....draft picks though are just what they are... a lottery ticket. It's very difficult to pick a future franchise player at such an early stage.
 
 
Right you are. Even though Jagr has since  proven to be incapable of carrying a team and even being a bit of a team cancer - there was a time that he was considered arguably the best player in the world.
 Notably, he was the 6th player taken in his draft year.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 07, 2004, 12:55:00 pm
jagr would have been the first choice if there wasn't a question of his availability. it was JUST after the iron curtain fell, if i remember correctly. something about if the czech team or army was going to let him go...
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 07, 2004, 01:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  jagr would have been the first choice if there wasn't a question of his availability. it was JUST after the iron curtain fell, if i remember correctly. something about if the czech team or army was going to let him go...
There will be very similar concerns this year. There is some question about whether the Russian players and their 'clubs' will abide by any potential new bargaining agreement, thus making it possibly very hard for teams to sign high caliber Russian players within the confines of the new pact.
 
  Elite Russian clubs want direct negotiations (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1767568)
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 13, 2004, 01:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
 
 Sports suck anyway. Your favorite team will always just inevitably break your heart.
 
 That's why music is SO much better. Assuming you choose wisely & barring the occasional trainwreck of a show, going to a concert will rarely send you home very unhappy. Versus the ~ approx 50% chance you have every time you go to a sporting event of being a 'loser'.
 
 
ESPN has got this story today on sports misery and despair
  misery index (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/040407)
 
 including a pretty funny cartoon that illustrates my point
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 13, 2004, 06:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
 
 Yep...that's my new mantra: Music is Better Than Sports. Save your time and $$ & go visit your local record store.
 
 Support Your Local Poet (instead)
 -R Woomble
What came first, the music or the misery? People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss. Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2004, 05:16:00 pm
I'm shocked that Pollard hasn't brought up the Danton saga in St. Louis yet, but this guy was about to be outed by his boyfriend so he was going to have him killed right?  Or is this guy just a wack job?
 
 And they have the nerve to pull the plug on Playmakers!
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: ratioci nation on April 19, 2004, 05:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  I'm shocked that Pollard hasn't brought up the Danton saga in St. Louis yet, but this guy was about to be outed by his boyfriend so he was going to have him killed right?  Or is this guy just a wack job?
 
 And they have the nerve to pull the plug on Playmakers!
Earlier I was going through all the bad things that have happened involving sports teams I like recently, I gave up on the Blues a couple of months ago, they make it hard to care.  Overpaid crap.
 
 The Danton thing is weird, who knows what the motive is, I was thinking that the guy was going to the Blues with info about drugs and alcohol abuse.  Danton has a screwed up past, changed his name from Jefforson because he hates his family.  His dad has come out in the press blaming Danton's agent for his problems and the agent has called Danton's dad the village idiot.  Danton also was suspended twice by the Devils for substance abuse problems. But I also thought about the outing by his boyfriend.  But why would the "boyfriend" out Danton to the Blues, what do they care.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: ggw on April 19, 2004, 05:31:00 pm
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/04/041904hockeyFolo.htm (http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/04/041904hockeyFolo.htm)
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2004, 05:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
  But I also thought about the outing by his boyfriend.  But why would the "boyfriend" out Danton to the Blues, what do they care.
Maybe he was going to break up with him?  Just like Playmakers.  People seem to think that if a homosexual came out of the closet, he would be ruined in the sports world.  That's why that catcher for the Mets has never come out.  
 
 Maybe he's not sure so he was hooking up with this girl too?  I'm still not sure what her role could be.
 
 Just a thought though.....
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: ratioci nation on April 19, 2004, 05:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/04/041904hockeyFolo.htm (http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/04/041904hockeyFolo.htm)
interesting, I still wonder what information the guy could be going to the Blues organization with, would be one thing to out Danton in public, but it is been mentioned several times that there was a threat to talk to the organization
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 19, 2004, 06:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by pollard:
  But I also thought about the outing by his boyfriend.  But why would the "boyfriend" out Danton to the Blues, what do they care.
Maybe he was going to break up with him?  Just like Playmakers.  [/b]
Playmakers is fiction.  :D
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 19, 2004, 09:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 
 
  did you check out the Northeast division standings lately?
 
   i bet you did   :)  
This before the Bruins total meltdown:
  its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2004/04/19/its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain/)
 
 It's gonna get ugly for Joe - 0 pts in the series?!
 
 Gotta feel good for Zednik though.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2004, 10:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
 
Quote
This before the Bruins total meltdown:
  its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2004/04/19/its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain/)
  [/b]
What the hell happened to the Bruins?  Anyone out there want to stand up for them?
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 20, 2004, 07:55:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by grotty:
 
Quote
This before the Bruins total meltdown:
  its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2004/04/19/its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain/)
  [/b]
What the hell happened to the Bruins?  Anyone out there want to stand up for them? [/b]
no
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Jagernaut on April 20, 2004, 08:33:00 am
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That's why that catcher for the Mets has never come out.  
 
I'M NOT GAY!
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Jagernaut on April 20, 2004, 08:34:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by grotty:
 
Quote
This before the Bruins total meltdown:
  its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2004/04/19/its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain/)
  [/b]
What the hell happened to the Bruins?  Anyone out there want to stand up for them? [/b]
No, I think I will just sit here and cry.  What a disappointment.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: ratioci nation on April 20, 2004, 09:33:00 am
Back to the Danton case, it looks like his agent was the target - http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Blues/07712F8A1664D6CF86256E7C001993B4?OpenDocument&Headline=Danton's+agent+may+have+been+target (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Blues/07712F8A1664D6CF86256E7C001993B4?OpenDocument&Headline=Danton's+agent+may+have+been+target)
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Guiny on April 20, 2004, 12:06:00 pm
I'm not gonna laugh in the face of the Bruins until i find out what the Maple Leafs do tonight.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2004, 12:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by Jagernaut:
   
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That's why that catcher for the Mets has never come out.  
 
I'M NOT GAY! [/b]
I always took you for a pitcher.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: grotty on April 20, 2004, 12:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  I'm not gonna laugh in the face of the Bruins until i find out what the Maple Leafs do tonight.
I don't think you have to wait.   :p  
 
 Toronto & Ottowa had nearly identical reg season records - a game 7 seems almost appropriate. I don't think there's any shame in losing this one. Unlike...
 
 Boston was a huge favorite (2 vs 7) & up big in the series. ESPN even drudged up this old story in their honor:
  biggest chokes (http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/chokes/hockey.html)
 
 Man...I love the underdog. Even when it's those national anthem booing frogs.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2004, 12:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by Jagernaut:
  No, I think I will just sit here and cry.  What a disappointment.
Good Sports night though.  I never miss a 7th game in Hockey, and anytime you get OT it's a major bonus.  Anytime there are old vets on the ice like Gelinas, Linden and Keane, you know they're going to have an effect in OT.  Shocked the road team won both games though.  Looking forward to tonights game too - go Canada!  Oh wait.  Go overtime!
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Guiny on April 20, 2004, 01:16:00 pm
I thought it was really pathetic when the Bruins fans started cheering USA, USA, USA in the 3rd period. Do they not realize that even Montreal have American players on their team?.....Dumbass's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 20, 2004, 01:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by grotty:
 
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This before the Bruins total meltdown:
  its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2004/04/19/its_time_for_thornton_to_get_hook_as_captain/)
  [/b]
What the hell happened to the Bruins?  Anyone out there want to stand up for them? [/b]
no [/b]
Cha-hee-hee-hee!
 
 
 I hate the Bruins...now hopefully the Flyers can choke just as bad and I'll be a happy mankie.  :)
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 20, 2004, 01:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  I thought it was really pathetic when the Bruins fans started cheering USA, USA, USA in the 3rd period. Do they not realize that even Montreal have American players on their team?.....Dumbass's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder what the percentage of doodles actually play in the NHL? Not many I'm sure.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2004, 01:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  I wonder what the percentage of doodles actually play in the NHL? Not many I'm sure.
It's actually way up from the past.
 
 The number of U.S.-born players in the NHL has doubled, from 55 in 1980 to it's peak of 112 in 1999-2000.  It think it was down to 93 in 2002.
 
 Canada 383
 Europe 238
 US 93
 
 I don't have stats from 2003.
 [THIS POST WAS EDITED]
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: mankie on April 20, 2004, 02:07:00 pm
13%....I'm surprised it's that high to be honest.
Title: Re: NHL Lottery draft
Post by: Guiny on April 21, 2004, 02:04:00 pm
Maple Leafs win, Bruins lose, Maple Leafs win, Bruins lose....Hahahahahahaha.....So what were those trade comments about Toronto getting all those old farts? Did better then the over rated young pups the Bruins got. I'll take Johanson, Leetch and Francis anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!