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Title: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 18, 2006, 09:11:00 am
Anybody else planning on reliving their more youthful years during the one week run?
 
 http://www.landmarktheatres.com/Films/films_frameset.asp?id=55355 (http://www.landmarktheatres.com/Films/films_frameset.asp?id=55355)
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: kcjones119 on October 18, 2006, 09:41:00 am
Indeed, I heard it's supposed to be pretty good.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 18, 2006, 10:10:00 am
Count me in!
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Post by: Nietzsche on October 18, 2006, 10:23:00 am
Yes. My better half and I will be at the 7:30 showing on Friday.
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Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 18, 2006, 11:22:00 am
Absolutely.
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Post by: chokeychicken on October 18, 2006, 11:38:00 am
i cannot wait to see this.
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Post by: chaz on October 18, 2006, 01:12:00 pm
I've got plans to see it next tuesday, but I may stay home to read 27 more columns about the closing of CBGB instead.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: Bags on October 18, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
I'll be there Wednesday...
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Post by: sonickteam2 on October 18, 2006, 04:39:00 pm
i dont think i am old enough to remember any of this hoo-ha.  especially since i didnt live in DC, or America....but i'd like to see it.  Is it on DVD too?
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: saintangelsin on October 21, 2006, 12:41:00 am
i want to go see this movie as well. i read a write up about it in the city paper. well it was more like a conversation.
 
 i'm a dork for music history.
 
 does anyone know how long it's going to be playing?
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 21, 2006, 07:49:00 am
one week only. now through thurs. unless of course they extend it.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
  i want to go see this movie as well. i read a write up about it in the city paper. well it was more like a conversation.
 
 i'm a dork for music history.
 
 does anyone know how long it's going to be playing?
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 26, 2006, 10:42:00 am
So what did everyone think? I went last night, thought it was a pretty decent movie overall. It's a shame that a lot of the video footage (and audio) from that era is so mediocre, of course that adds to the rawness of it all. But that being said, I think a lot of the music came off as being one-dimensional. To really appreciate hardcore, you have to sit down with the records and lyrics, but being at an actual show back in the day would have been really ideal. The movie did a good job trying to capture it, and express the power of the scene. I loved some of the interviews too. My favorite part was Mugger being bought out for 25% of SST Records and then basically retiring and being independently wealthy as he sips wine during his interview. CLASSIC. Guess that's where a lot of the money from bands not being paid ended up going.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: terry on October 26, 2006, 11:30:00 am
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Originally posted by bearman:
  My favorite part was Mugger being bought out for 25% of SST Records and then basically retiring and being independently wealthy as he sips wine during his interview. CLASSIC. Guess that's where a lot of the money from bands not being paid ended up going.
I actually wondered about that. Was he sipping Merlot during the interview on purpose? Trying to make some point? Maybe he just saw the movie Sideways and just couldn't help himself.
 
 My favorite scene was the interview with HR in a park and some woman in a bridesmaid gown (maybe it was a prom dress) walking behind him. I think I'm remembering this correctly, I wish I remember the point he was trying to make.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 26, 2006, 11:51:00 am
The quality of the footage was disappointing, but that's understandable given the time and situation.   I just thought it was kind of dull.  I didn't really learn much and it didn't leave me interested in wanting to learn more.  It mostly just stirred up memories of bands I was lucky enough to see and bands I'm annoyed that I missed.  Other than that I was pretty bored.
 
 I'd love to see an honest documentary on the history of SST.  Now THAT would be interesting.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2006, 02:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by SeƱor Carlos:
  I've got plans to see it next tuesday, but I may stay home to read 27 more columns about the closing of CBGB instead.
Here's #28 (http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0643,romano,74818,15.html) for ya... unhappy reading.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: andyrichter on October 26, 2006, 04:51:00 pm
it looks like they have extended it till Nov 2.  
 
 
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
  one week only. now through thurs. unless of course they extend it.
 
 
   
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
  i want to go see this movie as well. i read a write up about it in the city paper. well it was more like a conversation.
 
 i'm a dork for music history.
 
 does anyone know how long it's going to be playing?
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Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: El Jefe Design on October 26, 2006, 04:58:00 pm
I am glad that Mugger made out okay, especially after hearing all the stories about how he used to eat dog food and was homeless.
 
 Overall, thought the movie was okay. Thought  that the filmmakers tried to capture too many bands and did not give them much time to elaborate on them. Instead, they should have focused on five or six bands across America and told a more specific, detailed story.
 
 In the end I did not learn anything I did not already know, expect for seeing how a few people look now. Seeing Rollins punching a guy repeatedly was interesting.
Title: Re: Roll Call: American Hardcore
Post by: Bags on October 26, 2006, 05:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by terry:
 My favorite scene was the interview with HR in a park and some woman in a bridesmaid gown (maybe it was a prom dress) walking behind him. I think I'm remembering this correctly, I wish I remember the point he was trying to make.
It didn't happen just once -- every time they talked to H.R., these bridesmaids (or a bride) and guys in tuxes were walking across the park behind him.  It was a hoot.
 
 Anyone else notice that Ian McKaye's interview took place in Black Cat's Red Room?
 
 As for the movie, I enjoyed it, but we were wondering about some of the bands they didn't include any footage of -- Minuteman, Husker Du.  And like Bombay, I didn't leave moved to explore that seen all that much.  Like El Jefe, I think a real focus on, say, four or five bands with brief highlights from others might have made for a more compelling story.
 
 I'm not all that familiar with hardcore, I missed it by about 4 or 5 years -- came in right at the end when they said it started to suck (1986).