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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kc3305 on October 18, 2006, 09:58:00 am
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If I am one of the first 200-300 people in the Club for Wilco's show where would be the best place to stand. My wife is only 5.5 ft tall and would like to see the show and not someones back, if possible. Would appreciate any suggestions and if can incorporate bar and toilet (too much to ask?) life would be great. Thanks.
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I'd get a place along the railing upstairs, if seeing is your primary focus. It's a great view, and you can get pretty close along the side.
However, I never go upstairs as the energy is pretty flat. Downstairs in the crowd can pose sight problems sometimes, but there's a lot more energy, dancing, camraderie, etc.
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Sounds like you be best served heading to the upper level and standing at or near the railing. Just be sure to claim a spot against the railing before the venue fills up if its available. There are restrooms located in back corners up there as well.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Sounds like you be best served heading to the upper level and standing at or near the railing. Just be sure to claim a spot against the railing before the venue fills up if its available. There are restrooms located in back corners up there as well.
And a bar!! (come on it's more important than a bathroom!)
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To get upstairs, right as you enter the staircase is to the left.
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Originally posted by Bags:
I'd get a place along the railing upstairs, if seeing is your primary focus. It's a great view, and you can get pretty close along the side.
However, I never go upstairs as the energy is pretty flat. Downstairs in the crowd can pose sight problems sometimes, but there's a lot more energy, dancing, camraderie, etc.
what the other folks said - upstairs, esp if your wife is small
I wouldn't worry about the energy/dancing problem - most of that ceased at Wilco shows about three years ago, now people just stand there and bask in Tweedys genius!
;)
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Originally posted by brennser:
I wouldn't worry about the energy/dancing problem - most of that ceased at Wilco shows about three years ago, now people just stand there and bask in Tweedys genius!
;)
Except this guy.
Jeff Tweedy Decks Rowdy Fan at Wilco Show
I am trying to break your face
We've seen Jeff Tweedy enter rehab, throw up in theaters, and dress homeless chic at Lollapalooza, but nothing could have prepared us for this one.
According to several reader reports, entries made on the Via Chicago and Flaming Lips fan message boards, and an interview with Pat Hagin, managing partner of the concert promotion company and nightclub the Pageant, last night's Wilco show at Springfield, MO's Shrine Mosque got a little out of hand.
According to an anonymous Pitchfork reader, Tweedy punched a rowdy fan in the face about 30 minutes into Wilco's set yesterday evening. "So some dude jumps on the stage," the reader claims. "After he gets on stage (who really does this at a Wilco show?), he runs up to Tweedy to give him a fat smooch on his cheek.
"Tweedy freaks out like the retard from [There's] Something About Mary who doesn't like having his ears touched and grabs the dude by his throat. While clinching to his throat, Jeff hauls off and decks him with a punch/open hand slap/shove to the face and [the] dude skirmishes away. Tweedy later apologizes (sort of) and hurries to the point of the set where they bow out before the encore."
Another show attendee e-mailed us, adding, "Tweedy had to comment. 'I mean, come on guys, we aren't used to that! You guys have to stay down there."
So is this shit for real? Hagin, who was the production manager for the show, gave an official confirmation of the story. Then he explained, "To give you a little background here, I went down from St. Louis to promote the show at the Shrine Mosque in Springfield. And it's not a venue that does a lot of shows. They're nice people and everything but the security was not what we would normally want to see I guess. And I'm not blaming it on them or anything.
"But anyway, we had one incident before--it's one of those old theaters where there are lots of corridors, and somebody got by security. This woman came up and sat by the side of the stage, and we got her off finally, and back out into the crowd. And then right after that happened, this guy came across the front of the stage, and that story [the rough plot of the accounts above] is pretty accurate, I think Jeff just kind of shoved/punched, pushed him out of the way...And I even heard somebody mention on the radio as I was driving back in from Springfield, that Jeff was certainly justified, especially with Dimebag Darrell and that sort of thing. If somebody jumps on stage with you, its one thing if they're off to the side or they look passive, but when they're actually attempting to make themselves part of the show, it's pretty startling.
"This guy [the fan] was an idiot. There's this video of Keith Richards taking his guitar to somebody getting on stage, it wasn't certainly anything like that. But he [Tweedy] certainly has a right and a need in my mind to feel safe onstage...It really wasn't that big of a deal. He was just trying to establish ownership of the stage...There wasn't any hard contact or anything like that. We got him off the stage...There was no harm done, though. No blood or anything like that.
Hagin added, "It was an interesting experience all around." I'll say!
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I agree with everyone's comments. I'm far shorter than your wife and unless I'm extremely early and can be up against the stage, I go upstairs. You get a great view and if you're there early enough you can lean against the railing. Which is perfect for a lazy-bones like myself :)
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"After he gets on stage (who really does this at a Wilco show?), he runs up to Tweedy to give him a fat smooch on his cheek.
Another show attendee e-mailed us, adding, "Tweedy had to comment. 'I mean, come on guys, we aren't used to that! You guys have to stay down there."
while this fan clearly sounds like an ass, these comments are kinda funny because before Wilco became such an 'important' band they used to invite fans on stage to sing/play along.....
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I wonder if this will hit You Tube.
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I've been told by musician friends of mine (who have played the 930 and similar venues) that the best sound is the middle of the upper level as the speakers are pointed there. It also allows for great views for the shorter people.
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Nah, best sound is on the floor pretty much in front of the sound booth. Hey that is where the guy is mixing from, so that is where it is tweeked. Usually they never go upstairs to listen up there.
Now when the PA is pulled forward, upstairs can be better, but usually floor is the best (and the bass is really happening there).
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Thanks for the replies it looks like upstairs. Does the club allow re-entry say between the opener and the headliner?
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i don't think enough has been said about the difference in energy between the upper and lower levels ... it's like being at two entirely different shows, i couldn't imagine being upstairs for a show i really cared about
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Originally posted by brennser:
"After he gets on stage (who really does this at a Wilco show?), he runs up to Tweedy to give him a fat smooch on his cheek.
Another show attendee e-mailed us, adding, "Tweedy had to comment. 'I mean, come on guys, we aren't used to that! You guys have to stay down there."
while this fan clearly sounds like an ass, these comments are kinda funny because before Wilco became such an 'important' band they used to invite fans on stage to sing/play along..... [/b]
It's one thing when the band "invites" people onstage, but when you rush a performer like that withut having been asked to come onstage you deserve whatever rough treatment you receive.
This goes back to a sense on entitlement that some music fans have that has always mede me feel uneasy. Going to shows and buying music and merch does not give you the right to demand things like autographs or handshakes or hugs or even stage time.
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As it hasn't been stated in rather a long while, I'll proffer this time -honoured maxim:
WILCO SUCKS !
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At 5.5 ft tall, your wife will be one of the tallest people at a Wilco show, so i wouldn't worry if I were you.
The current Wilco audience is comprised entirely of short men with short penises. A few of them are able to drag their significant others along to shows that they have no interest in. Yes, I know some might consider me part of this demographic, but alas, I am not rich enough to be a current Wilco fan.
So, in conclusion, you should be fine.
Originally posted by kc3305:
If I am one of the first 200-300 people in the Club for Wilco's show where would be the best place to stand. My wife is only 5.5 ft tall and would like to see the show and not someones back, if possible. Would appreciate any suggestions and if can incorporate bar and toilet (too much to ask?) life would be great. Thanks.
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Rhett, might I ask how you know the size of their penises?
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He was involved in a Wilco group suckfest?
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Rhett, might I ask how you know the size of their penises?
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Penis size, of course, corresponds to short height. Unless you are Yao Ming. In his case, his small penis corresponds to being Asian.
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Rhett, might I ask how you know the size of their penises?
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Jeff Tweedy Decks Rowdy Fan at Wilco Show
As if to say, "Top that, Ryan!" ;)
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Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
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Originally posted by kc3305:
Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
Yes, most nights.
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Originally posted by kc3305:
Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
I'm pretty sure you can only leave and come back if you're over 21.
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Only in California.
Originally posted by kc3305:
Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Originally posted by kc3305:
Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
I'm pretty sure you can only leave and come back if you're over 21. [/b]
that is not true. on most nights, anyone with a stamp may come and go. on the rare occasion that we do not allow re-entry, there will be signs posted at the exit.
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I've been to shows where people were just as in the show in the balcony as on the floor...
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Originally posted by Bags:
However, I never go upstairs as the energy is pretty flat. Downstairs in the crowd can pose sight problems sometimes, but there's a lot more energy, dancing, camraderie, etc.
at the massive attack show, the floor was unbearable because of the incessant chatter. upstairs, the sound was better and people were much more respectful of the performers. had i stayed only downstairs, i would have left the show disgusted.
i've had great experiences both up and downstairs, but i generally prefer the floor near one of the bars - however, make sure the crowd is really there for the show and not for the scene.
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The men i've known who liked wilco have been generously endowed.
I'm sorry to you and your "wife" weird little man.
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How many Wilco fans have you seen nude?
Originally posted by tigers scare me:
The men i've known who liked wilco have been generously endowed.
I'm sorry to you and your "wife" weird little man.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
I've been to shows where people were just as in the show in the balcony as on the floor...
One of my favorites that stands out is Clutch from eons ago. Neil got on the mic to tell people to settle down upstairs and to not jump off the balcony because you might land on someone who will sue your ass!
Come to think of it...lots of shows I've been to, the whole club was moving, shaking and getting into the show! I just think it's a little more tamer upstairs where you don't have to worry about a pit breaking out.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by amnesiac:
Originally posted by kc3305:
Can you get stamped and re-enter the club?
I'm pretty sure you can only leave and come back if you're over 21. [/b]
that is not true. on most nights, anyone with a stamp may come and go. on the rare occasion that we do not allow re-entry, there will be signs posted at the exit. [/b]
Has this policy changed in the last few years? Or maybe I'm just confusing 9:30's policy with The Black Cat's...
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I suspect the energy level is going to the same at a Jenny Lewis type show whether you are up or downstairs. Shows that attract the High School crowd will be full of people into the show regardless of there they are.
People who end up in the balcony probably want a different experience from a show, maybe they go there to enjoy the music away from the madness of the people bumping into them, johnny come latelys forcing their way up front, they had a long day a work on want to sit for a bit.
It's silly to dismiss those who end up there. It's not they are less into the show unless they are yacking away which is just as likely to happen on the floor.
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Has this policy changed in the last few years? Or maybe I'm just confusing 9:30's policy with The Black Cat's...
our readmission policy has not changed in at least a decade. probably significantly longer.
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It is Fletchers that had(s) the no readimission policy.