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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 08, 2004, 01:51:00 pm
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Sorry, but I couldn't think of any place else to ask.
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Ummm, and I am getting a lot of spam/rude email to my bigyawn emaill addy.
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yup, me too
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Ummm, and I am getting a lot of spam/rude email to my bigyawn emaill addy.
Some 24 year-old-loser from Colesville is the culprit.
http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11218 (http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11218)
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The 13 year olds at hfstival.com have declared some sort of war against you.
http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11217 (http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11217)
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"Yes! Start like a Bigyawn copy thread... and post the name of who posted it, time and what the person said..."
Is something that is said in a BB actually under the benefit of a copyright? I would have guessed at no. In which case they really are a bit sad.
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I check it every day, but nothing much going on (board-wise), so I've been quiet too...
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Apparently, they haven't had this much excitement since that time their mom let them go to Hot Topic and buy that kewl Limp Bizkit hoodie.
"What we need to do is come up with some contingency plan for when they counterattack. Can our mods actually ban users? I'm keeping an eye on 930.com since most bigyawn'ers post there too."
http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11217 (http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11217)
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Went to HFStival and logged on as "adultsupervision," but suddenly decided not to post as they're probably idiot teenage techie savants and will cyberstalk me and f*ck me up.....just so friggin' lame.
"And once we're done here, let's go pick a fight with those 930.com bastards! We'll show DC who's number one on the east side! "
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The east side of what?
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Hysterical. They are already talking about this thread. First Janet, now this. Cool. Go BigYawn.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
The east side of what?
Probably Anacostia. ;)
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I like this response to markie:
I bet you're 30 and listen to Ryan Adams and bunch old alt-country trash. Go back to 930.com you impotent shoegazer.
http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11218;start=0 (http://www.hfstival.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11218;start=0)
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11,000 posts plus at an hfs site? gross.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[QB] Apparently, they haven't had this much excitement since that time their mom let them go to Hot Topic and buy that kewl Limp Bizkit hoodie.
WRONG!
Andrew WK was here recently!
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HFStival.com was just standing up for principle! If you get information from a website, you have to ask that site for premission and then cite that site saying that you got the information from there...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
HFStival.com was just standing up for principle! If you get information from a website, you have to ask that site for premission and then cite that site saying that you got the information from there...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
most of the people getting email have nothing to do with posting news on the site, in fact, most of the people getting email wouldn't even consider attending the hfstival
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
HFStival.com was just standing up for principle! If you get information from a website, you have to ask that site for premission and then cite that site saying that you got the information from there...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
most of the people getting email have nothing to do with posting news on the site, in fact, most of the people getting email wouldn't even consider attending the hfstival [/b]
HFS'tival????!!! :eek: They still do that shit?
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
Who would have guessed that any member of hfstival.com actually went to college?
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
HFStival.com was just standing up for principle! If you get information from a website, you have to ask that site for premission and then cite that site saying that you got the information from there...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
hmmm well it sounds like you have some users on your side that don't know netequitte either...
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originally posted by "postal service":
YOU ARE FROM BIGYAWN! YOU HOMO FUCK!
well at least they've decided to raise the level of discourse to our standards.
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The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
I mean no disrespect, just curious...what "copywritten" material?
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Bulletin board chatter is copywritten material? Fascinating. Read through the threads on HFStival. This is pure childishness. The entire attitude is...laughable, really. Except for some pretty threatening sounding language:
Re:Ladies and Gentlemen, we are not being credited, I declare war!
« Reply #60 on: Today at 01:07:16pm »
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That board is asking for it. I suggest unleashing a virus.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
If you care so much about copyright law, rather than break the law yourself by attempting a Denial of Service attack, why don't you try the legal way and file a cease and desist with Bigyawn?
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I particularly enjoyed the email I received from nofx420fugazi (if this name doesn't make you piss yourself, then I don't know what would...) with the subject "FAGGOT." The email said something along the lines of, "Expect a flood of email." Surely, this is a young man who listens to what his bands have to say.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Bulletin board chatter is copywritten material? Fascinating. Read through the threads on HFStival. This is pure childishness. The entire attitude is...laughable, really.
Whoa there, Bags...plenty of three and four syllable words in that post...you might want to tone it down a bit for any friendly lurkers from hfstival.com
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
Nice hair.......
<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
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Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
I mean no disrespect, just curious...what "copywritten" material? [/b]
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
HFStival.com was just standing up for principle! If you get information from a website, you have to ask that site for premission and then cite that site saying that you got the information from there...it's like writing a paper for college, you can't just quote something and not cite who you're quoting.
Never been to the HFS site, but I'm guessing you are 100% wrong about this.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
huh since when is a rumour copywritten, a floodng a site is still immature behavior.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
Contacting the editor would have been my first step.
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Hey moneybags, are you friends with the verbose mr. nofx420fugazi? I would love to meet him to discuss his thoughts on the legalization of marijuana and his well thought out arguments.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[qb][/qb]
<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
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Originally posted by El Tee:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
Contacting the editor would have been my first step. [/b]
what??? and be logical???
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Hey, i'm just on here defending HFStival.com, trying to explain our side of it. also, what do pictures of me from 4 years ago have to do with anything.
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Originally posted by Bags:
"And once we're done here, let's go pick a fight with those 930.com bastards! We'll show DC who's number one on the east side! "
I'm sure thatguy would love to take them on... Maybe I'll get to ban my first users :D
FYI I don't think some of the higher ups at the club would appreciate their emailboxes being flooded. You do still want to attend show here don't you?
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Hey, i'm just on here defending HFStival.com, trying to explain our side of it. also, what do pictures of me from 4 years ago have to do with anything.
they prove, conclusively, that you were a strapping young lad any momma would be proud of four years ago.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
Do your homework.
The "No Electronic Theft Act" is for software and electronic works (i.e., digital music and movies).
It does not protect information and news. It was designed specifically to create criminal penalties for those that were distributing software (and later music and movies) over the internet.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Hey, i'm just on here defending HFStival.com
It's got to be hard to defend the behavior and attitude of the posters from HFStival.com. Sending bulk email folders to folks with nothing to do with your issues, threatening viruses, trying to shut a fledgling site down. It's like a short dude with a huge car; seem to be some adequacy issues pent up and raging through that board.
I guess it's frustrating waiting for that twice yearly event...oh, that's right, the winter HFStival was cancelled. I understand more now, sorry for y'all.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
Do your homework.
The "No Electronic Theft Act" is for software and electronic works (i.e., digital music and movies).
It does not protect information and news. It was designed specifically to create criminal penalties for those that were distributing software (and later music and movies) over the internet. [/b]
The No Electronic Theft Act does not apply to music and movies, that's why a year later the passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
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I post on HFStival.com, but not very regularly. I agree that it is messed up for bigyawn to steal information from the hfstival site without giving credit to the author. Also taking items from the "rumors" forum, and posting them as factual.
I also find it messed up that users from HFStival.com are flooding bigyawns users with a flood of e-mail. It isn't necessarily the users fault, and their inboxes shouldn't be flooded.
However the bickering back and forth on the boards is quite comical to me. So I will continue to watch all this unfold.
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Could you guys post a picture of Postal Service? He's funny.
it seems as the message boards around the d.c area are locking down to keep us out.
look at what we've done. brian man you should be proud
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
Do your homework.
The "No Electronic Theft Act" is for software and electronic works (i.e., digital music and movies).
It does not protect information and news. It was designed specifically to create criminal penalties for those that were distributing software (and later music and movies) over the internet. [/b]
The No Electronic Theft Act does not apply to music and movies, that's why a year later the passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. [/b]
which, in either case, doesn't apply to you and your hfstival buddies. now go home, please.
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hey lawyer members: isn't it illegal to send unsolicited bulk emails, under the CAN-Spam act?
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own. [/b]
1. Facts can't be copyrighted.
2. There must be an original idea or creation in order to be eligible for a copyright; rumors and speculation do not meet this standard.
3. The "fair use" doctrine allows otherwise copyighted materials to be used for, among other things, news reporting, without authorization.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
Only if the copyrighted material has a value of $1000 or more.
Perhaps you should spend some of those benjamins on a little edumacation....
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you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature, i mean come on, posting pictures of me from 4 years ago is crazy and also illegal, those pictures are my property and i didn't give anyone permission to post them on a 930.com forum, so whoever did is breaking copyright law.
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I'm a little confused...according to bigyawn, they site interoffice hfs email as their source...
or am i missing something here?
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Originally posted by Santos L. Halper:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own. [/b]
1. Facts can't be copyrighted.
2. There must be an original idea or creation in order to be eligible for a copyright; rumors and speculation do not meet this standard.
3. The "fair use" doctrine allows otherwise copyighted materials to be used for, among other things, news reporting, without authorization. [/b]
There is no fair use on the Internet!
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Wow, I get back from a lunch meeting and someone gave the lunatics keys to the asylum.
First off, thanks for the 930 boarders, and bigyawn staffers standing up for us.
Second, and I'll address this to thegrimace, you need to brush up on your copyright law chief, cause there is nothing, in any book, that will tell you message board material is copyright, and even if it was, I can tell you from my actual job, that what I did was called "fair use". I read information from more than one site (you think I'd just use HFestival.com?). I then wrote about what i learned on my website. I didn't quote anyone.
I fully plan on giving a more formal repsonse on my site, and on yours, but I felt this forum offeres an opportunity to talk as adults. If you wanted me to add attirbution language, I prolly would have had you come to me as a normal human being. But since the hordes were unleashed, the chances of that are now zero. At some point in time, the numerous folks who tried valiantly to stand up for the rights of message boards everywhere will grow up, and decide "lick my balls" is not a proper response to an actual problem in their life. That being as it is, I am happy to talk to you, or anyone else from your site capable of forming a coherent thought.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by vansmack:
[qb] The No Electronic Theft Act does not apply to music and movies, that's why a year later the passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. [/b]
The Entertainment industry was not prepared to let the court decide whether or not Music and Movies were covered by the No Electronic Theft Act, so they pushed the DMCA through congress before the courts could hear it.
Either way, the material obtained in the HFSestival.com message boards are not protected by the NETA, and as a matter of fact I would recommend that you put a disclaimer that information contained in the message board should not be relied upon, for users to use at their own risk nor dies it reflect the opions of HFStival.com in any way shape or form. That would be a much more prudent way to handle information contained in message boards, rather than attacking others for using the information in a manner they see fit. I'm guessing that if you have a bioler plate license agreement that you make users agree to when they sign up to your boards, BigYawn was well within ther rights to use the information as they saw fit.
I would also refrain from promoting Denial of Service Attacks if I were HFStival.com, especially in what could be considered competing businesses (assuming of course that one of the two web sites wants to make any money).
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Originally posted by loopzlp:
I'm a little confused...according to bigyawn, they site interoffice hfs email as their source...
or am i missing something here?
that's how we know they got it from HFStival.com, there is no interoffice e-mail, it is a joke from HFStival.com
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by Santos L. Halper:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
On the big yawn home page there is information regarding this years HFStival that was clearly taken directly from HFStival.com and according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own. [/b]
1. Facts can't be copyrighted.
2. There must be an original idea or creation in order to be eligible for a copyright; rumors and speculation do not meet this standard.
3. The "fair use" doctrine allows otherwise copyighted materials to be used for, among other things, news reporting, without authorization. [/b]
There is no fair use on the Internet! [/b]
Please explain.
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thanks santos little helper, or whoever you are, for finding the language to back me up
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a couple things...
If I were the bigyawn admin, and I'm not, I'd be saving copies of the thier forum pages. I especially like this tibdit.
" i tried getting back in and it wouldn't even let me in with the admin password"
Sounds like illegal behavior to me..
Secondly if you are so concerned about posting images, why is there a image of the Detroit Red Wings linked from their site being used on the forum? It's too bad Probert still isn't playing.
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Originally posted by redsock:
thanks santos little helper, or whoever you are, for finding the language to back me up
Wherever there's a guy erroneously quoting the law, I'll be there.... :D
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There was no Denail of Service attempted, just several people posting that they were upset by the fact that HFStival.com was not cridited.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature, i mean come on, posting pictures of me from 4 years ago is crazy and also illegal, those pictures are my property and i didn't give anyone permission to post them on a 930.com forum, so whoever did is breaking copyright law.
I could've posted this pic.
<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
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and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
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Seriously, posting pictures of people on the internet is just rude. Not that I agree with all they did or anything.
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did you ask the red wings the same question?
oops forum registration is busted again :D better get right on fixing that...
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
There was no Denail of Service attempted, just several people posting that they were upset by the fact that HFStival.com was not cridited.
I'm not here to decide that, but with these few posts alone, I could make a pretty good case. Especially with some of these posts coming from a Moderator.
everybody start a new topic about the same thing
...in their boards of course
Flooding their boards can only end one way... deliciously.
THIS MEANS WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The goal was to flood big yawn for illegal use of copywritten material.
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Wouldn't citing the email be source enough? And I assume HFS has interoffice email -- any email sent from one employee at HFS to another would be classified as interoffice...I'm sorry, I don't see what the big deal is here -- BigYawn clearly states what is posted is rumour and that the official line will be announced on Monday...It just seems a bit odd to get all upset about this...
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by loopzlp:
I'm a little confused...according to bigyawn, they site interoffice hfs email as their source...
or am i missing something here?
that's how we know they got it from HFStival.com, there is no interoffice e-mail, it is a joke from HFStival.com [/b]
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
" i tried getting back in and it wouldn't even let me in with the admin password"
Sounds like illegal behavior to me..
Yeah, that nugget struck me as funny too.
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Dude, eat a sandwich or four.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature, i mean come on, posting pictures of me from 4 years ago is crazy and also illegal, those pictures are my property and i didn't give anyone permission to post them on a 930.com forum, so whoever did is breaking copyright law.
I could've posted this pic.
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<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature
I missed the part where we all went bezurk and apeshit, conspiring to flame every member of the HFStival board, post IPs, and tried to take down the whole HFStival board. Oh, and called anyone/everyone posting there things like "mother fucking cock suckers..." Yeah, that is immature.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh?
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I learned something today...I learned that there is someone more obnoxious, full of more shit and bogus 'facts' than Rhett! Thanks Grimace....yudaman!
Rhett, I would take this as a challenge if I was you mate....
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
Can you just hold off for a minute though, I'd like to print the photo so I can take it to the Haircuttery and have them give me the same do....that's just too cool dude.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
a couple things...
If I were the bigyawn admin, and I'm not, I'd be saving copies of the thier forum pages. I especially like this tibdit.
" i tried getting back in and it wouldn't even let me in with the admin password"
Sounds like illegal behavior to me..
Kosmo, they *posted* the admin username and password on their site. I emailed their moderator about this, but am not sure he doesn't realize this is behavior that should be corrected.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
did you ask the red wings the same question?
oops forum registration is busted again :D better get right on fixing that...
one, i have no control over the person promoting the red wings in there signiture.
two, sports teams encourage you to post there logo to promote the team, and i don't know for sure but i believe that banner was obtained from a red wing cite with permission.
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Hey dude, it looks like you're right in the middle of singing the 4 Non Blondes "What's Going On." And I'm positive you're hitting all of those high notes. Tell me, what made your band decide to cover such a touching song?
<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
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What "bogus" facts have I ever stated?
Sure, I'm full of shit, but I just ate my lunch.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
I learned something today...I learned that there is someone more obnoxious, full of more shit and bogus 'facts' than Rhett! Thanks Grimace....yudaman!
Rhett, I would take this as a challenge if I was you mate....
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission, however, those that have posted them here have posted them without my permission and i would like it if an admin would please delete all post containing my pictures. thank you.
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no there wasn't permission. The red wings banner has nothing to do with this arguement, however. Although it is morally wrong... he is stealing bandwidth, at least he is promoting the red wings in the process... which is something the red wings would not have a problem with, I'm sure of it.
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And we're promoting TheGrimace's totally sweet musical skills. What of it?
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
a couple things...
If I were the bigyawn admin, and I'm not, I'd be saving copies of the thier forum pages. I especially like this tibdit.
" i tried getting back in and it wouldn't even let me in with the admin password"
Sounds like illegal behavior to me..
Kosmo, they *posted* the admin username and password on their site. I emailed their moderator about this, but am not sure he doesn't realize this is behavior that should be corrected. [/b]
really?, what topic?
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if it cools the situation off... bad ggw :D
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
I learned something today...I learned that there is someone more obnoxious, full of more shit and bogus 'facts' than Rhett! Thanks Grimace....yudaman!
Rhett, I would take this as a challenge if I was you mate....
ummmm, i don't think i've been obnoxious on this forum, i've just been here trying to give people the other side of the story, even if it is the unpopular side. It's not like i've been over here telling everyone to lick my balls or something.
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Why are you so upset about posting your pic? Maybe some nice little 9:30 board girl will be turned on and ask you out on a date....although you do look like an emaciated midget. :D
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission, however, those that have posted them here have posted them without my permission and i would like it if an admin would please delete all post containing my pictures. thank you. [/b]
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission, however, those that have posted them here have posted them without my permission and i would like it if an admin would please delete all post containing my pictures. thank you. [/b]
well, please point us all to the relevant order from the u.s. patent and trade office giving you a copyright on the images.
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Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
Why are you so upset about posting your pic? Maybe some nice little 9:30 board girl will be turned on and ask you out on a date....although you do look like an emaciated midget. :D
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission, however, those that have posted them here have posted them without my permission and i would like it if an admin would please delete all post containing my pictures. thank you. [/b]
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oh man, I hope we remember where midget-related insults got us last time!
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission,
You agreed on the other forum when you registered that you would indemnify other websites:
"You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this forum, and any related websites to this forum."
I would advise you to remove from the source.
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Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
Why are you so upset about posting your pic? Maybe some nice little 9:30 board girl will be turned on and ask you out on a date....although you do look like an emaciated midget. :D
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
guess you don't know how to set your website to block image linking huh? [/b]
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission, however, those that have posted them here have posted them without my permission and i would like it if an admin would please delete all post containing my pictures. thank you. [/b]
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Is this your way of trying to hit on me...honestly, i'm flattered but i'm sorry, i'm taken.
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thread of the year. and its only april. it can only go downhill from here.
still laughing about nofx420fugazi
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
There was no Denail of Service attempted, just several people posting that they were upset by the fact that HFStival.com was not cridited.
"Basically flame the hell out of them till we can get a mod there to lock it and/or ban them.
Also, I really think mail boming them would piss them off. "
jaron®©�, reply #70 -- and this is after mentioning a virus and posting their admin information.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
I don't run the cite and my pictures are posted there with my permission,
You agreed on the other forum when you registered that you would indemnify other websites:
"You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this forum, and any related websites to this forum."
I would advise you to remove from the source. [/b]
Those pictures were not obtained from a post i made on the forum. They were illegal obtained from the cite itself without my permission which is illegal and that's why i'd like them to be removed from this cite.
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the admin info was not real, was just a username of admin
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
They're down, but didn't you post them publicly on the internet?
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so is it wrong to post a link? (http://www.hfstival.com/forumpics/index.php?gallery=Forum%20Users§ion=Grimace)
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
They're down, but didn't you post them publicly on the internet? [/b]
thank you to whoever took them down...and yes they are published on the net and if you'd like to go look at them, you are free to but i never gave permission for them to be posted here.
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spelling is fundamental
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
I'm not really a lawyer, but I play one when I'm alone in my bedroom wearing my pentagram medallion and singing along to Enema of the State
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Hey Grimace, I could really give a rats ass about your playful little bickering and all here, but you do realize that HFS sucks, don't you?
I've never actually met someone who liked WHFS. What exactly is it that you like about it?
Fuck all this lawyer geek speak, man...tell me what the hell you see in that station?
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
There was no Denail of Service attempted, just several people posting that they were upset by the fact that HFStival.com was not cridited.
"Basically flame the hell out of them till we can get a mod there to lock it and/or ban them.
Also, I really think mail boming them would piss them off. "
jaron®©�, reply #70 -- and this is after mentioning a virus and posting their admin information. [/b]
Well, the admin password was simply a mention of a board name, though we have changed ours to be safe. Why is it our board only gets action for random acts of drama? I guess we have permanently offended a group of the population here in DC. At least most of them can't drive or drink, then I'd worry bout them suicide bombing one of our shows.
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Those pictures were not obtained from a post i made on the forum. They were illegal obtained from the cite itself without my permission which is illegal and that's why i'd like them to be removed from this cite.
I'm beginnig to bore of you.
When you gave them to the site, you relinquished copyright to the site. The site has no license agremeent (that I have seen) and they can be used at will. But 9:30.com has a kind and level headed moderator here who has helped you out, so thank him.
You may want to put the moderator of your site in touch with this moderator.
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Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
[QB] What "bogus" facts have I ever stated?
*free internet radio* for one!
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Just because i'm trying to give a different prospective on the situation is no reason to flame me. I posted on the big yawn forum but i didn't personally post 50 million times or something. also, i didn't e-mail any of you! i'm just trying to tell you guys where the people that did those things are coming from. you know, be the voice of reason or whatever.
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What's a "prospective"?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Those pictures were not obtained from a post i made on the forum. They were illegal obtained from the cite itself without my permission which is illegal and that's why i'd like them to be removed from this cite.
I'm beginnig to bore of you.
When you gave them to the site, you relinquished copyright to the site. The site has no license agremeent (that I have seen) and they can be used at will. But 9:30.com has a kind and level headed moderator here who has helped you out, so thank him.
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exactly. . .smackie, he's one of those that knows enough law to be dangerous types. throwing around illegal and without my permission without knowing why.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Those pictures were not obtained from a post i made on the forum. They were illegal obtained from the cite itself without my permission which is illegal and that's why i'd like them to be removed from this cite.
I'm beginnig to bore of you.
When you gave them to the site, you relinquished copyright to the site. The site has no license agremeent (that I have seen) and they can be used at will. But 9:30.com has a kind and level headed moderator here who has helped you out, so thank him.
You may want to put the moderator of your site in touch with this moderator. [/b]
I did thank the moderator of this site.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
exactly. . .smackie, he's one of those that knows enough law to be dangerous types. throwing around illegal and without my permission without knowing why.
His Dad had a lawyer once (or twice).
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Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
[QB] Why are you so upset about posting your pic? Maybe some nice little 9:30 board girl will be turned on and ask you out on a date....although you do look like an emaciated midget. :D
I bet Eddie would put an extra dab of eyeliner on for him...(it was Eddie who wore the eyeliner wasn't it?)
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As an aside, for some reason the HFStival moderator was very reasonable with Markie (who was very reasonable as well) over on their site. But all in all, that site makes ours look like a haven of reason and taste.
:D
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Now I'm gonna go ahead and stick up for the guy...leave thegrimace alone. He is just trying to make a point, albeit a wrong one. At least he is trying to be rational, unlike many of his compatriots in the rebellion.
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I think that was Sam...
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
[QB] Why are you so upset about posting your pic? Maybe some nice little 9:30 board girl will be turned on and ask you out on a date....although you do look like an emaciated midget. :D
I bet Eddie would put an extra dab of eyeliner on for him...(it was Eddie who wore the eyeliner wasn't it?) [/b]
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Originally posted by redsock:
Now I'm gonna go ahead and stick up for the guy...leave thegrimace alone. He is just trying to make a point, albeit a wrong one. At least he is trying to be rational, unlike many of his compatriots in the rebellion.
thanks man! i'm honestly not a bad guy. and i'll try and do something about my hair for you guys, hahaha ;)
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Originally posted by redsock:
Now I'm gonna go ahead and stick up for the guy...leave thegrimace alone. He is just trying to make a point, albeit a wrong one. At least he is trying to be rational, unlike many of his compatriots in the rebellion.
Can I post his picture on BigYawn.net?
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
I posted on the big yawn forum but i didn't personally post 50 million times or something. also, i didn't e-mail any of you! i'm just trying to tell you guys where the people that did those things are coming from. you know, be the voice of reason or whatever.
That's important information -- it certainly appeared that all the posters on the HFStival thread on this were involved in the emailing, board flooding, etc. It's the full discussions on the HFS site that I've thought are just insane, and make me happy to be here.
As Markie did for us over there, you've been an emissary here...it was worth talking it through.
I know the bigyawn admin, though, and one email to him would have gone a LONG way and been oh so reasonable.
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What's funny is this long debate about the No Electronic Theft Act is that the hfstivalnuts posted it themselves on bigyawn -- right there to read!!
"SEC. 2. CRIMINAL INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHTS.
(a) DEFINITION OF FINANCIAL GAIN- Section 101 of title 17, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the undesignated paragraph relating to the term `display', the following new paragraph:
`The term `financial gain' includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works.'.
( CRIMINAL OFFENSES- Section 506(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
`(a) CRIMINAL INFRINGEMENT- Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either--
`(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
`(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,..."
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redsock and markie clearly getting rich off of this. please buy me an ipod
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We all go through some rough spots with haircuts. I certainly can't throw stones.
Either way, I'm sure you understand that posting on this board was a very easy way for a lot of people who have been receiving junk email to vent.
I've said some spiteful things and I'm apologizing for them. Hopefully you spend some more time on both BigYawn -- a great review site -- and the 930 forum. HFS is no way to hear new music!
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
thanks man! i'm honestly not a bad guy. and i'll try and do something about my hair for you guys, hahaha ;)
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Yeah, check out the Soundtrack of our Lives review from a couple weeks ago, and today's on the Get Up Kids. Nice to see the GUPs get props for growing...I've never understood why they get so slammed with all the other sh*t that's out there.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
redsock and markie clearly getting rich off of this. please buy me an ipod
I'm not usually old-fashioned. But I'm not buying into the IPOD phenomenen. CD quality is still so much better. Also, the battery issue bothers me along with the fact that something better is coming around (See today's Post Business section).... And I'm not intentionally trying to change the topic ;)
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Originally posted by helicon1:
I'm not usually old-fashioned. But I'm not buying into the IPOD phenomenen. CD quality is still so much better. Also, the battery issue bothers me along with the fact that something better is coming around (See today's Post Business section).... And I'm not intentionally trying to change the topic :D
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Originally posted by helicon1:
CD quality is still so much better [than ipod].
wouldn't that depend on the speakers?
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The crazy part is this is the confirmed (I believe) portion of the festival that brought all this hulabaloo about:
Violent Femmes
Cypress Hill
New Found Glory
POD
Blindside
Hazen St.
Lacuna Coil
Stars Hide Fire
Now, is *anyone* going to this?!? :D
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i think alot of the quality issue has to do with the rate you rip your mp3s. i never put on a cd at home, just go to itunes, have the computer hooked up to the stereo. can't tell the difference. besides, i listen to alot of lofi stuff anyway. i'm sure they will come out with something better soon, but will it work with osx?
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Originally posted by helicon1:
I'm not usually old-fashioned. But I'm not buying into the IPOD phenomenen. CD quality is still so much better. Also, the battery issue bothers me along with the fact that something better is coming around (See today's Post Business section).... And I'm not intentionally trying to change the topic ;)
Nice change of topic. I didnt think the ipod was a great idea either. But I got one for $100 and now if it broke, I would have to get a new one tomorrow. The battery issue is pretty rare. I dont have it. And the sound quality is great. Certainly better than my old panasonic portable CD player. Anything CD with shock protection is unlikely to sound better than a decent quality MP3.
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My iPod is 18 months old and no problems...
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Looks like the denouement is finally at hand....from the HFStival site.
An open letter to the users/admins of bigyawn.net and 930.com,
Admittedly, our actions this morning and afternoon were ridiculous, to say the very least. We were slightly bemused at the action Big Yawn took in reporting an entirely made up joke on our site as news, and further upset that they made no mention whatsoever of us as a source. It does a great disservice to the readers of Big Yawn to think that there's an shred of truth in that at all, and had it been cited as coming from us, it clearly would have been discredited out of hand, since after all, we're HFStival.com.
That said, our actions just went way overboard. It was totally unjustified for, and we take all the blame. In our defense, we are HFstival.com, and as such, what were you expecting? We're clearly not a classy forum for DC-area music discussion like bigyawn.net or 930.com and we don't pretend to be. We're mostly uncultured and idiotic, and the mere fact we're on a board unofficially dedicated to an Infinity Radio sponsored festival show should speak to that.
I would like to point out that the vast majority of HFStival.com posters had nothing to do with any of these actions whatsoever, and it is not a reflection of our administrator or his staff who, to the best of my knowledge, had no prior knowledge and gave no consent to these actions whatsoever. It was a bunch of idiots taking what they thought would be funny far, far overboard.
So, we apoligize openly to bigyawn for our attack on them and apoligize as well to 930.com for this apparently affecting the traffic of their board as well. We also apoligize if this brought any black eye whatsoever to WHFS, which, while sucking hardcore, doesn't deserve to be linked to our horrid actions. Hopefully we can all just agree to leave each other alone, and we can all go back to some sense of normalcy; you folks with your discussion and us with our subhuman ape people throwing feces at each other.
Sincerely -HFStival.com
« Last Edit: Today at 04:14:25pm by jaron®©� »
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Mine is Pollards original. How old is that?
The beauty of the ipod is the integration with itunes. The easy ripping of CDs to Mp3s and to some the convenience of the istore.
Although the napster system does sound great, it is not Mac compatible.
I think advocates of either system would agree that its cool to have so much music easily accesible, either from the sofa, or the car, or on two feet.
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So that was gracious of them.
I guess someone can take solace in the fact that people are actually reading his website. :)
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Mine is Pollards original. How old is that?
about 2 years
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Has anyone listened to The Grimace's band?
http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/sound.html (http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/sound.html)
They have a song dedicated to Rhett.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
So that was gracious of them.
I guess someone can take solace in the fact that people are actually reading his website. :)
:D
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so...can we start a photo album too? :D
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I love their "super ghetto" homemade t-shirts. God bless'em these cats are wonderful.
http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/images/TeddyShirt.jpg (http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/images/TeddyShirt.jpg)
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Has anyone listened to The Grimace's band?
http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/sound.html (http://www.angelfire.com/band2/gogia/sound.html)
They have a song dedicated to Rhett.
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Mindcage.
Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
I think that was Sam...
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by ggdoubleballs (tm):
I bet Eddie would put an extra dab of eyeliner on for him...(it was Eddie who wore the eyeliner wasn't it?) [/b]
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Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by mark e smith:
I guess someone can take solace in the fact that people are actually reading his website. :)
:D [/b]
Exactly. Yea BigYawn. (see Redsock -- darn my psychic abilities. ;) )
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i'll jump in the confession pool and say that some of my remarks were pretty snide... once in awhile my admin/moderater hat falls off.
and before any conspirecy threories start getting propageted, as it often happens around here the forum registration system gets confused and stops registering new users. it just so happens that it took another one its mini breaks today and i hadn't gotten around to see if new users were getting registered so it hasn't been fixed yet.
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i also am sorry for making fun of a dinosaur jr/modest mouse/trail of dead fan for having 11,000 posts on an hfs site
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Those bands are all mockworthy. :D
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i also am sorry for making fun of a dinosaur jr/modest mouse/trail of dead fan for having 11,000 posts on an hfs site
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sorry, i don't remember if he likes alt-country
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That could only be the case if he's, like, 30 or something...he probably hasn't evolved that far yet.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
sorry, i don't remember if he likes alt-country
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Wow.. I don't even remember creating this account on this board. Must have been a while ago..
Anyways, I apologize for my users today. They smell blood and they get carried away. You have to admit it's a little entertaining though :)
No hard feelings..
Brian
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In my opinion, I think we wiped the floor with them. But who's counting?
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
In my opinion, I think we wiped the floor with them. But who's counting?
Us 1 Them 0
what!
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Originally posted by HFStival:
Wow.. I don't even remember creating this account on this board. Must have been a while ago..
Anyways, I apologize for my users today. They smell blood and they get carried away. You have to admit it's a little entertaining though :)
No hard feelings..
Brian
Classy move, mate. And I hope you guys enjoy this years HFStival.
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im not sure why i have an account on these forums but for some reason i do. im a moderator on HFStival.com and i can assure you that the actions taken earlier today were taken too far and for that we apologize.
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hey today looked like fun..........
i miss all the good stuff..................
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
i miss all the good stuff..................
I have a feeling you don't miss *all* the good stuff... ;)