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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: GabrielG54 on April 29, 2005, 08:54:00 am
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I was Born in 79. Although i do recognize the influence frank black and crew had on music as we know it today, for whatever reason i cant relate to all of this pixies reunion hype. Tried listening to the tunes, no dice. Nothing. Not a single goose bump. Anyways, i thought id pose a question to this highly opinionated board.
Who will be the next pixies in the sense of - they will reunite for a tour in 15 years and all hell will break loose. They dont even necessarily have to be broken up right now.
My Guesses:
Smashing Pumpkins
Wilco
Soundgarden
Rage
Chumbawumba
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Well if orginial The Stone Roses ever toured all hell would break loose, but then we'd all be disappointed in what a crap live act they are. Actually an instrumental Stone Roses tour might be fun :) It would a bit like the Sex Pistols doing it for the kiddies college fund tours. Of course in their case it would be for more drugs...
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I was born in 1975...I say try harder. (Sorry, the Pixies changed the way I listen to music. Al the bands you listed really don't mean much to me except maybe the Pumpkins.) The Pixies are just one of those bands you get or you don't. THey're a phenomenon because they never achieved any real commercial success and they were kind of at the wrong place at the wrong time (then). But people discovered them probably more later on and as a result a lot of people missed out. I was lucky, they were my first show...that being said, few bands will ever get a second chance the way the Pixies did, and it is all about their music. Sure, they took the buck and ran with it, but why shouldn't they? Having met all of them at some point, they seem like good hard-working people and they haven't exactly had easy lives. I hope this time their story will end in a happy ending.
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Actually, the Stone Roses at WUST kicked ass Kosmo. It was when I saw them in Chicago later on that tour that they sucked :)
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my comment is more with regards to ian's limited vocal abilities... and wasn't at least reni out by the time they did the later us dates?
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Reni left for the tour and Robbie Jay came in. Good drummer, just different. Ian's vocals were hit or miss. On the night I saw him, he did a decent job and the band was absolutely smoking. But I agree that Ian's vocals could be awful. I have a great bootleg from their first Japanese tour that shows that in fact they could be a great live band and Ian COULD sing :)
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those bands you listed are good, but do any of them really cause goose bumps? I can't imagine.
Originally posted by GabrielG54:
I was Born in 79. Although i do recognize the influence frank black and crew had on music as we know it today, for whatever reason i cant relate to all of this pixies reunion hype. Tried listening to the tunes, no dice. Nothing. Not a single goose bump. Anyways, i thought id pose a question to this highly opinionated board.
Who will be the next pixies in the sense of - they will reunite for a tour in 15 years and all hell will break loose. They dont even necessarily have to be broken up right now.
My Guesses:
Smashing Pumpkins
Wilco
Soundgarden
Rage
Chumbawumba
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back to orginial question... The Smashing Pumpkins or Rage are probably the only ones who would cause a real stir in 15 years, not for me though :) Soundgarden maybe, i.e. Motley Crew, but I don't see their influence carrying forward. Wilco like R.E.M. will probably keep recording touring repeat. Now if Jellyfish, the Greys or Primal Scream ever toured again
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Sorry, the Pixies changed the way I listen to music
yeah, I will never forget the first time I listened to Doolittle on my walkman after getting a tape from someone at school - it was this visceral, in your face, oh my god this is amazing moment!
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I recorded their 1989 show at the Metro in Chicago off of WXRT. At first I thought "wow, there are a few songs here that really blow me away." Then after a week I thought, "Damn...there's hardly a bad song here." A month later I felt like I had gone from a world of black and white to technicolor. I was one of those geeks in high school and it was my freshman year, and it was like I couldn't listen to music the same way again. Even though I had discovered the Ramones and Minor Threat by this point, the Pixies made my appetite for music absolutely voracious.
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I don't know how someone could hear debaser and not get at least a little excited.
Oh and you can have coldplay as the new pixies.
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the smiths. duh.
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I was born in 1975...I say try harder. (Sorry, the Pixies changed the way I listen to music. Al the bands you listed really don't mean much to me except maybe the Pumpkins.) The Pixies are just one of those bands you get or you don't. THey're a phenomenon because they never achieved any real commercial success and they were kind of at the wrong place at the wrong time (then). But people discovered them probably more later on and as a result a lot of people missed out. I was lucky, they were my first show...that being said, few bands will ever get a second chance the way the Pixies did, and it is all about their music. Sure, they took the buck and ran with it, but why shouldn't they? Having met all of them at some point, they seem like good hard-working people and they haven't exactly had easy lives. I hope this time their story will end in a happy ending.
try harder i will. im so fickle sometimes, but i also know that some of my favorite albums are ones that i was lukewarm at most to after the 1st listen - aenema by by tool being chief among them.
those bands dont necessarliy give me goosebumps, i was just going for what people would freak out over. and yer prolly right about wilco. maybe uncle tupelo then. now if the eagles ever got backt together... i mean, fuck!
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um, the smiths predated the pixies so how could they be a later generations pixies?
Originally posted by itburns:
the smiths. duh.
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Originally posted by Miss MArKiE?:
I don't know how someone could hear debaser and not get at least a little excited.
Oh and you can have coldplay as the new pixies.
coldplay = beach boys
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the eagles always get back together...
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the Eagles were definitely the Pixies of their day.
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the eagles always get back together...
sorry. my lame attempt at cracking myself up. i should have went with kiss.
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RADIOHEAD!!!!!
come on people!
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Originally posted by brennser:
[QB] um, the smiths predated the pixies so how could they be a later generations pixies?
with the use of a retro-fitted DeLorean that runs on garbage and travels through time.
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Originally posted by sonickteam3:
RADIOHEAD!!!!!
come on people!
What's the secret to really liking Radiohead?
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What's the secret to really liking Radiohead?
Listening to their music in the order in which it was released.
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Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!
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Originally posted by Markie doesn't like me :( :
What's the secret to really liking Radiohead?
2 of these
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Originally posted by GabrielG54:
What's the secret to really liking Radiohead?
Listening to their music in the order in which it was released. [/b]
ooh, I like that. I think i will try that, 6 albums back to back....interesting.
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Originally posted by tbmtt:
Originally posted by brennser:
[QB] um, the smiths predated the pixies so how could they be a later generations pixies?
with the use of a retro-fitted DeLorean that runs on garbage and travels through time. [/b]
you have a point!
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pavement
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pavement
without a doubt. when i was at DAR for the pixies in december, i was like, "yeah, pavement will so be playing here in about 5 years or so."
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
pavement
aha. I will agree with the Venerable one. Radiohead may be the best band, but, like the Pixies, Pavement never got the commercial success they deserve and will leave people trying to "understand" them for generations to come
good call.
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yeah, pavement all the way
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i never would have said pavement, but i think you are absolutely right. it was so simple...right in front of us the whole time. i hope stephen malkamus gets fat too.
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i also hope i get a delorean for x-mas.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
back to orginial question... The Smashing Pumpkins or Rage are probably the only ones who would cause a real stir in 15 years, not for me though :) Soundgarden maybe, i.e. Motley Crew, but I don't see their influence carrying forward. Wilco like R.E.M. will probably keep recording touring repeat. Now if Jellyfish, the Greys or Primal Scream ever toured again
isn't rage more of a band for suburban white kids to listen to to feel as if they are politically/socially active more than a band that's actually terribly influential? doesn't rage get boring after a while after the songs don't really sound that terribly different from eachother, at least structurally.
step 1: come up with some riff to repeat for most of the song
step 2: have zach make up some political lyrics, with mostly repeated lines
step 3: come up with a weird sounding non-standard guitar solo that doesn't sound like one we've used before.
i suppose steps 2 and 3 could be interchanged.
don't get me wrong, i'd probably rather listen to rage than most of the stuff that's new right now, but i've never been impressed with them.
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thats why thier self-titled first album was a tremendous success and one of my favourite records ever, but they were less successful with everytime they released the same record over and over again.
its only cool to bitch about the same thing over one album, not 3 or 4.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by Miss MArKiE?:
I don't know how someone could hear debaser and not get at least a little excited.
Oh and you can have coldplay as the new pixies.
coldplay = beach boys [/b]
i kind of think coldplay are just fluff and are really just turning into music for yuppies... if they ever even weren't before.
and this years tour is called 'let's price gouge the yuppies by charging more than twice what we charged last tour for tickets!' (oh and also let's come up with an "exclusive" ticketing package to charge extra money to get stuff that's actually rather worthless)
i'm sorry, i always liked coldplay before (at least seeing them live), but everything surrounding this upcoming tour/album is just bullshit.
coldplay is just pop fluff. i'm glad i've stopped hearing coldplay/radiohead comparisons.
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all popular bands do it that way nowadays... Maroon 5 is particularly guilty of milking money outta the uppie masses
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
all popular bands do it that way nowadays... Maroon 5 is particularly guilty of milking money outta the uppie masses
well i guess i'm sort of of the opinion that maroon 5 were just crap, musically or otherwise.
every time i've heard them i've just though "people can't possibly take this stuff seriously, can they?"
but yeah i suppose it seems a lot of bands are all about milking money from their fanbase these days. and i understand that their jobs are being entertainers, but it just gets to a point where it gets ridiculous. and another good example i can think of of a band that's trying to milk their (limited) fanbase for every cent they can with utter crap is einsturzende neubauten.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
back to orginial question... The Smashing Pumpkins or Rage are probably the only ones who would cause a real stir in 15 years, not for me though :)
Now if Jellyfish, the Greys or Primal Scream ever toured again
I think only Pumpkins would cause a Pixies' like stir. I'm not a Pumpkins fan, but they are rabidly loved and seem to have increasing influence over time.
And Kosmo, I am SO with you on JELLYFISH!!! But we'd likely be in a minority (a wise and enviable minority, certainly).
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
I recorded their 1989 show at the Metro in Chicago off of WXRT. At first I thought "wow, there are a few songs here that really blow me away." Then after a week I thought, "Damn...there's hardly a bad song here." A month later I felt like I had gone from a world of black and white to technicolor. I was one of those geeks in high school and it was my freshman year, and it was like I couldn't listen to music the same way again. Even though I had discovered the Ramones and Minor Threat by this point, the Pixies made my appetite for music absolutely voracious.
Man, I haven't been "Pixie-ified", but I love this description of how music can affect then change you. Happened to me (in a different way, of course) with The Smiths "Hatful of Hollow." I just couldn't believe that I could become so enmeshed, involved and inspired by an album. That was about 900 albums ago...
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I agree with the Pavement guess but I think to really answer this question we should ask the editors at Spin/promoters of Coachella. As in "who are you going to suddenly â??rediscoverâ?? and reunite for your show?" I think it is hilarious that three years ago Spin didnâ??t see fit to include the Pixies in their list of the 50 most important or influential bands, but when they became a corporate sponsor of Coachella suddenly all anyone who writes for them can do is nothing but name check Frank Black and compare every new band to the Pixies. And yes I did take that 50 greatest list way too personally.