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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: cannons_at_dawn on July 13, 2005, 12:14:00 am
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Who's going? The tickets appear to be in high demand. Also, Spin dubbed them "the most hated band in America." thoughts?
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im going. im actually really looking forward to it. i think the opening bands are really gonna make it a great night, they both seem to be really good. i think itll be fun. and no way are they the most hated band in america.
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i thought they put on a good show at hfstival
sound good live, not so good on cd though
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Friday's show starts great with Nic Armstrong on goes down hill after that. I'm totally diggin Nic's British Invasion sound, then again 30something is in my rear view mirror.
The Dead 60's off come as Clash recording session outtakes, will be interested in their live show.
The Bravery sure get no love from some Ash fans, to me they are the most ignorable band in America. One half decent song and lots of borrowed style for these catz. Then again their typical fans has never even heard of the Revillos from which they copped their look, so it doesn't really even matter. I'll be on my way home by the time The Bravery hit the stage...
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I must say that i am really curious to see The Bravery again. I was at their show when Ash was supposed to be the headliner and I liked the music alot although I had problems with the singers voice.
Why the most hated band in America? Anyways, I still think they just sold out because their whole old high school is coming to the show, like it was with the show at the Black Cat.
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...VERY interesting. I'm doing the same, Kosmo. I'd suggest anyone with tickets for Friday make it a point to get there for Nic Armstrong; his guitar skills are really great - high energy rock. Never caught Live 60's, but a 930 staffer who's heard a lot of bands over the years, highly recommends them. Bravery? I've got Bravery overload, having seen them three times in six months. Still searching for a reason to love 'em, but they aren't THAT bad...I'm leaving before their set too. SO much music, so little time.
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Originally posted by cannons_at_dawn:
Who's going? The tickets appear to be in high demand.
high schoolers and people who have heard about this cool underground band who sound like the killers, who have that great brightside song that i heard on z104
Originally posted by cannons_at_dawn:
Also, Spin dubbed them "the most hated band in America." thoughts?
well, they really said it was mostly NYC who hated them, but i think they are complete and total manufactured crap, no better than NKOTB ... there was a great article (village voice? new yorker?) about their frontman and his secretive nature about his age and background, it reminded me a lot of the vanilla ice fiasco and exposed their group as the hacks that they are.
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I hate em
I'd like to see the opening bands though
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The Dead 60's off come as Clash recording session outtakes, will be interested in their live show.
Exactly, with a little Gang of Four on occasion and some early Joe Jackson sounds. Can't put my finger on it, and am still debating if I should like it. But make no mistake, it hasn't stopped me from listening to it over and over again.
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Hate em - party of two. My gf and I saw them at a festival in Columbus and they were deplorable. The lead singer spent the bulk of their time on stage perfecting his faux Morrisey posing.
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The Dead 60's are a better band and they should headline the show. The Dead 60's will rock.
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Soundgarden had a pile of their used cd's the last time i was there.
Originally posted by BLACKSTORM:
The Dead 60's are a better band and they should headline the show. The Dead 60's will rock.
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where they used or promos copies being sold? big difference...
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What's the difference? Dunno. Wasn't really interested, so didn't inspect them.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
where they used or promos copies being sold? big difference...
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since you were clearily trying to make one of your passive agressive "points" about the dead 60s by implying a pile of used cd indicated that people thought they sucked and were selling them back.
a promo cd is one set out to any of a number of outlets to promote the product. (radio stations, djs, clubs, street teamers, magazines, record stores, independent record promoters) a promo can appear to be used since it's open but will usually take some sort of sticker indicates it's a promo, or a indent/hole in the case. as is the often case someone is trying to raise a little cash by selling thier promos. given the fact the cd just came out that pile of used cds is probably someone cashing in their promos.
could be that some radio station got a stack to give away and some intern decided to pocket the cash instead...
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Good thing you're not a shrink. I was actually just passing along some info that I thought might be helpful to people. I try to be more clearily next time.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
since you were clearily trying to make one of your passive agressive "points" about the dead 60s by implying a pile of used cd indicated that people thought they sucked and were selling them back.
a promo cd is one set out to any of a number of outlets to promote the product. (radio stations, djs, clubs, street teamers, magazines, record stores, independent record promoters) a promo can appear to be used since it's open but will usually take some sort of sticker indicates it's a promo, or a indent/hole in the case. as is the often case someone is trying to raise a little cash by selling thier promos. given the fact the cd just came out that pile of used cds is probably someone cashing in their promos.
could be that some radio station got a stack to give away and some intern decided to pocket the cash instead...
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BS
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Good thing you're not a shrink. I was actually just passing along some info that I thought might be helpful to people. I try to be more clearily next time.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
since you were clearily trying to make one of your passive agressive "points" about the dead 60s by implying a pile of used cd indicated that people thought they sucked and were selling them back.
a promo cd is one set out to any of a number of outlets to promote the product. (radio stations, djs, clubs, street teamers, magazines, record stores, independent record promoters) a promo can appear to be used since it's open but will usually take some sort of sticker indicates it's a promo, or a indent/hole in the case. as is the often case someone is trying to raise a little cash by selling thier promos. given the fact the cd just came out that pile of used cds is probably someone cashing in their promos.
could be that some radio station got a stack to give away and some intern decided to pocket the cash instead...
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I am going out of a strange curiosity.
Surprisingly I am confused that the show took so long to sell out (heh possible double entendre there)..
Strangely enough I do like their cd (it is sort of a guilty pleasure of mine) it's not a blast or total perfection but I am curious to see how they will perform live.
most hated band in America? Whatever... If this is the music the band wants to play and make, who cares how friggin old they are or if they were a ska band before hand or somewhat.
All I want to know is if they can pull off the chops live cause that is what matters. hoping they can, hope the opening acts will be good as well.
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People who enjoy the Bravery have bad taste in music.
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BS
Originally posted by PigIron:
People who enjoy the Bravery have bad taste in music.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
People who enjoy the Bravery have bad taste in music.
now now.. don't be bitter.. :D
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I'm there mostly for dead 60's, who look like they'd put on a good show. and yeah, the clash outtakes comparison sounds particularly apt. The Bravery I discovered all on my own way back last september, and liked their sound. Didn't at all think of the killers when i heard them, which is what everyone seems to be comparing them to. It will be interesting to see if their live show smacks of posing or if they seem more to be genuinely into what they're doing.
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Nic Armstrong and The Thieves greatly exceeded my expectations. A solid nonstop 30 minutes of fuzzy around the edges, sweaty, greasy rock n' roll. No BS stage banter, all four members got a chance to sing lead. As often is the case it's a great drummer that tips the scales. In this case the much like The Features drummer, he propelled the band with a wildly enthusastic beat. Plus, you get the sense he's a fustrated front man trapped behind his kit. Highly recommend seeing this band live when ever they hit a town near you.
The Dead 60s on the other hand were a bit of a let down. Much to clean cut and mannered in their performance. Don't get me wrong, this band is mostly likely the next Supergrass because they are very good at what they do. I expect several years of good but not great albums and shows from them. And hopefully some of their influences will gel into a Dead 60s sound. There is Specials, Clash, Buzzcocks all there...
And the Bravery were....
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i thought the whole night was really good. i really dont see how you can put the bravery and the killers in the same category. sure, their music sounds relatively similar but tonight only proved that the bravery are a kickass real legit band, and i dont particularly think the same of the killers. for some reason, when i was thinking about what the evening would be like, i was not envisioning the bravery to be energetic and put on as good a rock show as they did. they really impressed me, and ive become a much bigger fan because of it. nic armstrong and the thieves were awesome, i met all the guys afterwards and they were all really cool. the dead 60s were very clean cut and everything but they are a good band and i can definitely see good things for them in the future. the crowd reacted really well to them as well. it seemed as though a lot of people there were going for the dead 60s, which kind of surprised me. i dont really like it when people act all elitist in saying that they hate seeing high school kids being dropped off by their parents and listening to the latest trend band or whatever. im in high school, but ive got a pretty broad taste of music which is, as far as ive seen, very similar to most people on the forum. i just happen to think that the bravery are a good band and im not going to ignore them just because theyre getting mainstream and popular.
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Didn't they teach you about using paragraphing in English class? When you son't use it, it makes it very hard to read what you've written. Thanks.
Originally posted by shtee223:
i thought the whole night was really good. i really dont see how you can put the bravery and the killers in the same category. sure, their music sounds relatively similar but tonight only proved that the bravery are a kickass real legit band, and i dont particularly think the same of the killers. for some reason, when i was thinking about what the evening would be like, i was not envisioning the bravery to be energetic and put on as good a rock show as they did. they really impressed me, and ive become a much bigger fan because of it. nic armstrong and the thieves were awesome, i met all the guys afterwards and they were all really cool. the dead 60s were very clean cut and everything but they are a good band and i can definitely see good things for them in the future. the crowd reacted really well to them as well. it seemed as though a lot of people there were going for the dead 60s, which kind of surprised me. i dont really like it when people act all elitist in saying that they hate seeing high school kids being dropped off by their parents and listening to the latest trend band or whatever. im in high school, but ive got a pretty broad taste of music which is, as far as ive seen, very similar to most people on the forum. i just happen to think that the bravery are a good band and im not going to ignore them just because theyre getting mainstream and popular.
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this board sucks....
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Originally posted by cannons_at_dawn:
Who's going? The tickets appear to be in high demand. Also, Spin dubbed them "the most hated band in America." thoughts?
most hated? i just don't care. i care as much about them as i do yanni.
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Didn't they teach you about using paragraphing in English class? When you son't use it, it makes it very hard to read what you've written. Thanks.
Repost:
i thought the whole night was really good. i really dont see how you can put the bravery and the killers in the same category. sure, their music sounds relatively similar but tonight only proved that the bravery are a kickass real legit band, and i dont particularly think the same of the killers.
for some reason, when i was thinking about what the evening would be like, i was not envisioning the bravery to be energetic and put on as good a rock show as they did. they really impressed me, and ive become a much bigger fan because of it. nic armstrong and the thieves were awesome, i met all the guys afterwards and they were all really cool.
the dead 60s were very clean cut and everything but they are a good band and i can definitely see good things for them in the future. the crowd reacted really well to them as well. it seemed as though a lot of people there were going for the dead 60s, which kind of surprised me.
i dont really like it when people act all elitist in saying that they hate seeing high school kids being dropped off by their parents and listening to the latest trend band or whatever. im in high school, but ive got a pretty broad taste of music which is, as far as ive seen, very similar to most people on the forum. i just happen to think that the bravery are a good band and im not going to ignore them just because theyre getting mainstream and popular.
There you go, is that better? I hope you're able to read it now.
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All in all, it was a perfect night of concerts. All of the three bands totally convinced me. Nic Armstrong And The Thieves were great, the Dead 60's became better in the end and the Bravery were awesome. The lead singer was quite talkable and that made him much more likeable than a few months ago at the Black Cat where they were all just about to look good and to impress.
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It was a good show by all bands, my only thing was that when I heard some of the stuff from Nic Armstrong on their website, I felt the 60's influence live didn't come across. They were a good band but the trademark sound they seemed to have didn't show up live to me.
I really liked the Dead 60's and while people hear have called them Clash wannabees, the band reminded me more of The Specials than anything else, but a little bit more polished and rigid, instead of free.
The Bravery put on a good show. It's funny how people keep refering to Endicot's "Morrisey shtick", after listening to him for awhile, it seems his vocal style is based mostly on Bono of U2. That's what he reminded me of to some extent.
more later..
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i heard part of the Nic Armstrong soundcheck and live they lean a little more "punk" or "garage" than the British Invasion stuff on the record, probably has a bit to do with the sharing of vocals, and more energy. which is fine for me as hearing a band replicate its recorded sound is a bit dull...
the dead 60s & specials connection didn't really strike me until seeing them live, especially towards the end of thier set. but they also lifted the bassline from one of thier song from the buzzcocks "oh shit"...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The Dead 60s on the other hand were a bit of a let down. Much to clean cut and mannered in their performance. Don't get me wrong, this band is mostly likely the next Supergrass because they are very good at what they do. I expect several years of good but not great albums and shows from them. And hopefully some of their influences will gel into a Dead 60s sound. There is Specials, Clash, Buzzcocks all there...
Thanks Chief.
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Monday, July 18, 2005; C05
The Bravery
Slobbered on by music magazine NME, called out by the Killers, clamored over by hip record labels, heavy users of eye makeup the Bravery have plunged into the rock-star lifestyle the way Kirstie Alley used to hit an all-you-can-eat Sunday brunch. The Brooklyn-based band sold out the 9:30 club, too, but the most striking thing about the quintet during their hour-long set Friday night was what they lacked: original, interesting music.
Singer Sam Endicott and keyboardist John Conway concocted the Bravery's debut album -- an amalgam of NYC modern-rock styles (the Strokes, Interpol) and the Cure -- on an iMac, and those 11 songs served as the backbone of their performance. Which was the problem. Songs like "Tyrant" and "No Brakes" seemed merely backdrops for Endicott to work out tired lead-singer poses. Any forward propulsion that they managed to establish -- the slashing opening of "Give In," for example -- quickly sputtered when it reached a chorus or bridge that fell back on wilted sighs.
The sinking feeling of musical retread corrupted even the Bravery's best songs: "The Ring Song" burbled with a keyboard hook that was pure '80s one-hit wonder (Men Without Hats, anyone?), and even the percolating "An Honest Mistake" was corrupted, the ghost of Duran Duran infesting its joints. Musical deja vu hardly mattered to the kids that crammed the main floor. And as every music-buying generation since Ed Sullivan introduced the Fabs has proved, popularity beats originality every time. At least until next week.
-- Patrick Foster
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^ That review is beautiful.