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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on May 19, 2005, 03:20:00 pm
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So then, Darth Vader is.......................................... is is is...really that kid from eight is enough. Mace Windu is toast (http://tinyurl.com/asoes)...who ever heard of Mace Windu being in episode IV? That goes double for everyone you never heard of in episode IV. They all die in episode III. What? Maybe Mace appears briefly in episode 7, the search for more money?
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Geez, don't they know nerds don't take the toys outta the box?
Star Wars figurines could create disposal problem, group warns
The release of the latest Star Wars movie this week is creating excitement among fans of the sci-fi saga, but it´s also creating concern among some environmental advocates who fear the Dark Side - in other words, waves of discarded plastic action figures, light sabers and other movie-related paraphernalia headed to landfills.
"We love Star Wars as much as anybody, but it doesn´t mean we should emulate the destructive power of the Death Star by harming the environment," said Anne Reichman, director of Earth911.org, an environmental action and information Web site. "Most people don´t know that these types of figurines can´t be recycled, not even little Yoda. In fact, almost all of these toys will sit in landfills until long after we´re gone."
The group isn´t discouraging parents, or kids at heart, from buying the souvenirs, but they are offering tips for disposing of the materials after they lose their appeal.
Batteries from light sabers can be recycled, just like flashlight batteries, by dropping them off at a local recycling center. Product packaging, which often outweighs the product it holds, can be recycled through local paper and plastic conservation programs. And the group urges the donation of old DVDs, Star Wars clothing and figurines to libraries, charities, schools and day care facilities.
In 1999, when "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" was released, more than 250 million Star Wars action figures were sold. Earth911.org calculates the figurines´ aggregate weight to be about 5,700 tons.
The group offers a listing of local recycling centers that users can obtain by visiting its Web site and entering a ZIP code.
from Waste News (http://www.wastenews.com/headlines2.html?id=1116348156)
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Well, I finally saw Revenge of the Sixth, Pt III.
Pt.II, Attack of the Clones, was far superior. Revenge was a yawner...too much middle. Send in the Ewoks. There ought to be Ewoks. Even crusty-but-lovable Yoda started to put me to sleep.
It's the same ranking-order as the original three films: The middle was the best and the last was the worst.
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Was sorely tempted to walk out, but I wanted to see Vader. The dialogue was perhaps the worst I've ever heard.
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When the actor with the most character development is R2D2, you know the script's slouching toward suckiness. Do you think he has a dustbuster attachment?
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you have to admit the lightsaber fights were awesome...except windu/emperor fight.
they were even better becasue there wasn't talking!
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General Grevous died waytoo easilly. After all, he the four twirling sabres cartwheeling. But he didn't hit a sausage. What gives?
It was too many lightsaber duels. And what was that purple lightstick thingie that Grevous' guards carried? That didn't do jack shit. What, was it supposed to make one angry, or something?
Wookie's ARE the new Ewoks.
Only the first half hour was watchable...
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
General Grevous died waytoo easilly. After all, he the four twirling sabres cartwheeling. But he didn't hit a sausage. What gives?
It was too many lightsaber duels. And what was that purple lightstick thingie that Grevous' guards carried? That didn't do jack shit. What, was it supposed to make one angry, or something?
Wookie's ARE the new Ewoks.
Only the first half hour was watchable...
They didn't use it, but if you watch the Clone Wars animated series, the events of which lead directly into the film, the "lightstick" is actually something akin to a giant taser.
Wookies, not Wookie's.
General Grievous is probably the worst developed character in the SW universe. I was hoping he would've been a reincarnated Darth Maul or something, who basically lost all his force abilities minus lightsaber skills.
You honestly believe that this film was worse than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones? I'd like to hear how those two films were better. I could actually stomach Hayden Christiansen in this one, something I can't say for either him or Jake Lloyd in the previous films.
Despite the overuse of galactic basic on Yoda's part and the fact that George Lucas has obviously never been around a real woman in years or else he'd remember how to write one better, I'd put this squarely behind Jedi, with Menace fifth and Clones last.
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Originally posted by j_lee:
Wookies, not Wookie's.
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Originally posted by j_lee:
Wookies, not Wookie's.
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Way to avoid my other question. Did you learn from this manual?
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my favourite part was the computer-generated christopher plummer at the end.
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Originally posted by j_lee:
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You honestly believe that this film was worse than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones? I'd like to hear how those two films were better.
Okay Smartypants, here's your answer: I wasn't bored by Clones or Menace. I nearly fell asleep during Sith...hence Clones was superior.
I suppose you thought that Home Alone 3, Robocop 3 & The Man With The Golden Gun were the best installments in those respective series, too?
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for Markie, Pollard, NKOTB, etc
Ballboy - Light Saber (http://www.ballboymusic.com/downloads/lightsaber.mp3)
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Okay Smartypants, here's your answer: I wasn't bored by Clones or Menace. I nearly fell asleep during Sith...hence Clones was superior.
I suppose you thought that Home Alone 3, Robocop 3 & The Man With The Golden Gun were the best installments in those respective series, too?
Obviously I think that the third movie in any film series is the best in the series because I liked ROTS better than the previous two installments. I'm so glad you were able to point that out to me.
:roll:
I suppose by your logic, Home Alone 2, Robocop 2 and License to Kill would be your favorites then.
The truth is that we're just splitting hairs here. All three of the prequels suffered from the same problem, George "Faster! With More Emotion!" Lucas' sub-par scripts and directing.
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Originally posted by j_lee:
I suppose by your logic, Home Alone 2, Robocop 2 and License to Kill would be your favorites then.
The truth is that we're just splitting hairs here.
My opinion of Robocop 2 isn't germaine to the discourse.
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Posting that SITH wasn't boring, as you claim, is.
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http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3 (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3)
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To me, this is the lamest of all possible criticisms of the prequels. Does no one remember "I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain?" How about "I'd just as soon kiss a Wookie" or "But I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some power converters?" Jesus, what about the entire dialogue between Han & Leia on Endor after Luke reveals that they're family?
People, it's a STAR WARS MOVIE! This isn't high art, and from a guy with a closet full of Star Wars toys, that's saying a lot.
Anyway, I was impressed with the ROTS. While I can definitely see Ellis's points regarding AOTC being better, I thought he was able to do more in this movie than in the other two prequels combined; provided a reasonably solid progression of events for how Vader came into being. Granted, Lucas was a little heavy-handed at times with the political side of things, but a republic doesn't just fall because one good guy goes goes bad.
Still, I'm hoping the DVD has more footage of the Wookies ripping up droids and more Jedi slaughter. And I'm sure I'll get that, when Lucas releases the ninth revision of the original trilogy, packaged with the third revision of the prequel trilogy, all in a seven disc set just in time for Christmas 2008.
Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
Was sorely tempted to walk out, but I wanted to see Vader. The dialogue was perhaps the worst I've ever heard.
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Give Lucas his due. He did make a masterpiece, THX-1138. What a film! I just wish they would release the original version to DVD. Lucas ought to be scolded for altering his earlier work, a'la A NEW BEGINNING.
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Hey, I'm taking nothing away from Lucas at all. I'm extremely biased, but I think all six episodes are great as a whole. But he does have his limitations, and dialogue is one of them.
I haven't seen the re-released THX-1138. What has he altered in it? Mind you, it's been a while since I've seen it at all, so I might be a little hazy on the changes (unless they're drastic).
EDIT: Oops, just found this list (http://thx-1138.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32).
Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Give Lucas his due. He did make a masterpiece, THX-1138. What a film! I just wish they would release the original version to DVD. Lucas ought to be scolded for altering his earlier work, a'la A NEW BEGINNING.
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I honestly dont remeber the original version too much, but the re-release had tons o' computer graffics added to it. Backgrounds, machines, more people, etc. I dont know if it changed the story at all, maybe someone with a better memory can tell us.
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Originally posted by nkotBaba:
I haven't seen the re-released THX-1138. What has he altered in it? Mind you, it's been a while since I've seen it at all, so I might be a little hazy on the changes (unless they're drastic).
Think of it like this, Would Stanley Kubrick go back and colorize Dr.Strangelove? Would he 3-D digitize the bomb bay scene and add extra elements to make it look cooler?
Would Hitchcock tinker with PSYCHO so that Janet Leigh doesn't have to die? Would Sergei Eisenstein digitize a baby jogger onto the Odessa steps scene?
Lucas should have, at the very least, included an original cut. A part of the stark atmosphere of the original was because of the low budget.
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Kubrick, Hitchcock and Eisenstein are all dead. So I would have to answer "no" to your questions.
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Kubrick's not dead, man. He's with Elvis.
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Think of it like this, Would Stanley Kubrick go back and colorize Dr.Strangelove? Would he 3-D digitize the bomb bay scene and add extra elements to make it look cooler?
Think of it like this, Was Dr. Strangelove an action picture with tons of special effects?
Star Wars was known for its FX and action sequences, which is why it makes some sense to update it ... it would make pretty much no sense to update the FX of a movie that didn't rely on FX in the first place
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Think of it like this, Was Dr. Strangelove an action picture with tons of special effects?
You think Slim Pickens was really riding on that missile?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Was Dr. Strangelove an action picture with tons of special effects?
Star Wars was known for its FX and action sequences
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I wasn't talkin' 'bout STAR WARS.
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Besides being greedy beyond belief, this is my only criticism of his tinkering. The Star Wars DVDs should've had the option to watch the movie as the original cut, the Special Edition and the new edits. Instead, he has to stick to his "original vision" and only include the new one.
By the end of my life (or Lucas's), I'm guessing I'll have 16 different versions of the Star Wars saga.
Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Lucas should have, at the very least, included an original cut. A part of the stark atmosphere of the original was because of the low budget.
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marketing.
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Just saw ROTS...it was okay. What struck me is that Episode II is really given over to the love story between Anakin and Padame (or whatever the f*** her name is), and in this movie, there was no apparent love there at all, except they kept saying they were in love and couldn't live without each other. But they barely touched each other and were so damn stiff....odd, really. (Hmmm, wonder if this is largely a girl's perspective.)
Thing is, I liked the huge battles of some of the other movies -- Episode II kicked ass with some fights, even the forest chase in Episode XI -- which were missing her completely. Instead we got numerous one-on-one confrontations.
And it's true -- R2D2 has the most personality in the movie! The evil Chancellor was just a little too over the top with his "YAAA HAA HAA" evil laughing and sneers...
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where the hell did you see episode XI!!!!omg!
haha...i have seen it three times and i enjoyed it. i hate anikin until the end...stop trying to find problems with the story and enjoy it. yeah its not the best but it is better than most movies out in theaters today. the action is awesome...thats all that matters...
lucas can't direct, we all know that but i'm happier that the movie came out then if it hadn't. lucas is a money whore so we will probably see multiple versions of anything he does. he also likes to make revisions like may writers.
padme wasn't hot i nthis movie!!!and c3P0 and r2 had more love...
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Originally posted by Bags:
Just saw ROTS...it was okay. What struck me is that Episode II is really given over to the love story between Anakin and Padame (or whatever the f*** her name is), and in this movie, there was no apparent love there at all, except they kept saying they were in love and couldn't live without each other. But they barely touched each other and were so damn stiff....odd, really. (Hmmm, wonder if this is largely a girl's perspective.)
Thing is, I liked the huge battles of some of the other movies -- Episode II kicked ass with some fights, even the forest chase in Episode XI -- which were missing her completely. Instead we got numerous one-on-one confrontations.
And it's true -- R2D2 has the most personality in the movie! The evil Chancellor was just a little too over the top with his "YAAA HAA HAA" evil laughing and sneers...
Agree fully about the lack of romance (and I am a guy). I mean they barely kiss, hug, and just seem so blah.
And no way she was preggers with twins that big. I would assume she would look more like a beached whale. And giving birth, WTF? Legs together AND in pain. If they are so advanced they can get the kids out with her legs together, why couldn't they treat the pain of childbirth?
And Anikin's conversion to the darkside just doesn't work. Sure he might do some things to save his supposed love, but snuffing out unarmed children doesn't seem to fit. That is quite a change in such a short time.