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Title: Paul Weller
Post by: bearman🐻 on January 08, 2003, 10:42:00 am
Coming to the 9:30, Wednesday, 2/19. I wonder what this will be like?  I really love the Jam, was never a huge fan of the Style Council.  Never got any of Weller's solo stuff, but have heard bits and pieces and have enjoyed the little I have heard.  Anyone have any info if it's him with a band?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on January 08, 2003, 11:26:00 am
yippee! and ladytron/simian 2 days prior!  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on January 08, 2003, 11:31:00 am
I think he generally tours with a full band.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.paulweller.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.paulweller.com[/url] <P>I think I would prefer to see him sitting on a stool with just a guitar and a mic.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 08, 2003, 12:18:00 pm
From Paul's new US label... At least his talented drummer from the Style Council will be onboard with the guys from Ocean Colour Scene.  I would love to see the setlist for this show.  <P>And it would be great to see him do the solo acoustic thing.  "Extras" was a great colletion of Jam demoes etc....<P>PAUL WELLER US TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED <P> Acclaimed songwriter Paul Weller will kick off his U.S. tour February 6 in San Diego; it's his first stateside full-band tour in nearly six years. Performing with a six-piece band including Steve White (drums), Ocean Colour Scene??s Steve Cradock (guitar) and Damon Minchella (bass), Weller is performing material from his new album, ??Illumination.?? In addition, he'll be playing several Jam and Style Council songs for the first time ever with a full band.<P>In recent U.K. dates Weller has been at the top of his form, with London??s Daily Mail noting that Weller ??dug deep into his gritty rhythm and blues roots, sounding more raucous than he has in years.? <P>Weller??s new album, ??Illumination,?? has recieved raves as ??his best work in ages? (The Guardian), and is set for US release January 14 on Yep Roc records. The expanded US release will include three UK B-sides and a bonus DVD with videos for the first two UK singles ("It's Written In The Stars" and "Leafy Mysteries"), along with  three live tracks (videos) from Weller's July 2002 concert in London??s Hyde Park, where he performed before a 22,000-plus capacity crowd. <BR>More dates to come, but these are confirmed!<P>U.S. Dates as of December 18, 2002<P>Thur-Feb-06 - San Diego - Spreckels Theatre<BR>Fri-Feb-07 - Los Angeles - Wiltern Theatre<BR>Sat-Feb-08 - San Francisco - Warfield<BR>Tue-Feb-11 - Denver - Paramount Theatre<BR>Sat-Feb-15 - Chicago - Vic Theatre<BR>Mon-Feb-17 - Toronto - Massey Hall<BR>Tue-Feb-18 - Detroit - State THeatre<BR>Wed-Feb-19 - Washington DC - 9.30 Club<BR>Additional Dates TBC - Check <A HREF="http://yeproc.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://yeproc.com/[/url]  for updates. Related Links:  <A HREF="http://www.yeproc.com" TARGET=_blank>www.yeproc.com[/url]  <BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 08, 2003, 12:22:00 pm
be nice if the guys from Ocean Colour Scene would open
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on January 08, 2003, 12:26:00 pm
very nice indeed.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>be nice if the guys from Ocean Colour Scene would open</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: MissKitty on January 08, 2003, 01:13:00 pm
i'd go for the drummer alone<P>he could drum for england.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 08, 2003, 01:57:00 pm
Miss Kitty Welcome back!!!!!<P>i'm totally into this show, with Weller returning to his r & b roots.  garage and northern soul are my things these days.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on January 08, 2003, 02:03:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kosmo:<BR><B>  garage and northern soul are my things these days.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>What exactly is Northern Soul?<P>According to a web page I found:<P>"By 1970 the Detroit Sound had moved on to the psychedelic soul of the Temptations and the Undisputed Truth, but in some clubs in England, time was standing still. <P>The disc jockeys at the Twisted Wheel All-Nighter in Manchester were seeking out the Motown records which never made it.  <P>Due to it's geographical base in the North of England, this phenomenon became known as Northern Soul.<P>It would forever change the lives of tens of thousands of people in the United Kingdom."<P>The site goes on to imply that Northern Soul morphed into the mod scene.<P>Is this the same as your definition?  <P>Who are some Northern Soul bands?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Jaguär on January 08, 2003, 02:11:00 pm
Basically, it's turned into the bands from Northern England that are hip but tend to have a bit of Old English Folk sounds laced into them. Doves, Elbow, I Am Kloot are some of the bands, to name a few. It's basically the Manc and beyond bands who sing from the heart. The Rain Band have elements of Northern Sould as well as many of the other Manchester bands you've heard. I've found they often do like to incorporate some of the American sounds within their own native sounds creating their own style, hence Northern Soul.<P>Elbow use to be much more of a Funk band before they found their personal style. Those of you who were at Doves last show saw a logo on the backdrop that was round with a fist that said "Doves Soul". This was a direct reference to Northern Soul. <p>[This message has been edited by Jaguär (edited 01-08-2003).]
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Fico on January 08, 2003, 02:16:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaguär:<BR><B>Basically, it's turned into the bands from Northern England that are hip but tend to have a bit of Old English Folk sounds laced into them. Doves, Elbow, I Am Kloot are some of the bands, to name a few. It's basically the Manc and beyond bands who sing from the heart. The Rain Band have elements of Northern Sould as well as many of the other Manchester bands you've heard. I've found they often do like to incorporate some of the American sounds within their own native sounds creating their own style, hence Northern Soul.<P>[This message has been edited by Jaguär (edited 01-08-2003).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>How could you forget the Verve??<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Jaguär on January 08, 2003, 02:20:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B> How could you forget the Verve??<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My brain doesn't feel like functioning today that's why I qualified my statement with something about other bands. Thank you Fico. You are right, as well as some of the sounds of Oasis and The Charlatans.<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 08, 2003, 02:21:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaguär:<BR><B>Basically, it's turned into the bands from Northern England that are hip but tend to have a bit of Old English Folk sounds laced into them. Doves, Elbow, I Am Kloot are some of the bands, to name a few. It's basically the Manc and beyond bands who sing from the heart. The Rain Band have elements of Northern Sould as well as many of the other Manchester bands you've heard. I've found they often do like to incorporate some of the American sounds within their own native sounds creating their own style, hence Northern Soul.<P>[This message has been edited by Jaguär (edited 01-08-2003).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>actually northern soul is more a sound verses a genre, and most followers of northern soul would turn their noises up at these bands.  it was a movement started in the early 70's where the music was primarily 60's soul records<BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: cappuccino_kid on January 08, 2003, 02:27:00 pm
Does anyone know when the tickets for Paul Weller will be on sale?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Jaguär on January 08, 2003, 02:29:00 pm
These are the very bands that my friends from Northern England refer to as being Northern Soul. <P>I can easily get a list from them for you...
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 08, 2003, 02:35:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaguär:<BR><B>These are the very bands that my friends from Northern England refer to as being Northern Soul. <P>I can easily get a list from them for you...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>it's possible that term northern soul has been expanded to include many groups...  <P>it would be interesting to see whats currently being included.  <P>see my northern soul topic for more info...
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: thirsty moore on January 08, 2003, 02:43:00 pm
Should we include Rush in North American Northern Soul?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 08, 2003, 05:33:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cappuccino_kid:<BR><B>Does anyone know when the tickets for Paul Weller will be on sale?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>01/09/03 10:00AM
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Fico on January 08, 2003, 05:41:00 pm
Any word on Mauhrkeys porno venture???<P>and yes, Layne Staley is still dead..<P>Vic Pichardo dayview record "Days" on sale now!!
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Jaguär on January 08, 2003, 06:54:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B>Any word on Mauhrkeys porno venture???<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, but I heard from various other friends that there were all of these guys from Scotland there grabbing ladies' asses. <P>Okay, Markie is English but he was with a Scot...and it's North America. Scotland, England, Wales....it's all the same.  (http://www.930.com/ubb/wink.gif)<BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 01:36:00 pm
Christ, $35 for the Paul Weller show, dont know about that
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Henry Dark on January 10, 2003, 01:40:00 pm
That's as much as the Cyndi Looper show!
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on January 10, 2003, 01:41:00 pm
Superdrag is opening for Weller in Chicago.  Hopefully, they'll be doing the whole tour with him.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 01:42:00 pm
That would be good news, but also bad news, I heard Superdrag would be touring agin in February and March but was hoping they would be headlining.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 15, 2003, 02:17:00 pm
Review of the new album in today's Post...<BR> <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57255-2003Jan14.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57255-2003Jan14.html[/url]
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 27, 2003, 12:37:00 pm
Looks like Superdrag will be opening for Paul Weller the 3 shows immediately preceding DC, but the 18th is their last show with him.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2003, 12:39:00 pm
lets hope it's The Bigger Lovers, label mates of mr. weller and killer power pop band from philly
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on January 31, 2003, 12:46:00 am
The opener is now listed as Fiction Plane, anyone know anything?  They have a site at MCA Records and they are touring with Juliana Theory and Something Corporate, which does not bode well.  Hopefully that tour is just a mismatch.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on January 31, 2003, 01:01:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>The opener is now listed as Fiction Plane, anyone know anything?  They have a site at MCA Records and they are touring with Juliana Theory and Something Corporate, which does not bode well.  Hopefully that tour is just a mismatch.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Judging by the fact that they are wearing scarves on their homepage picture and the downloadable video is titled "Everything Will Never Be OK" I'm saying there's a 99-44/100 chance they are Emo.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: sniper10 on February 01, 2003, 01:48:00 pm
This should be a good show, I always liked the Style Council. Does anyone know if it's safe to take Metro since this concert is on Wednesday and they close at 12AM ?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 02, 2003, 04:55:00 pm
From: <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/02/arts/music/02RAND.html?pagewanted=1" TARGET=_blank>The New York Times[/url]<P>Paul Weller: No Longer Competing With His Younger Self<BR>By MAC RANDALL<P>FOR more than 25 years, the British singer, songwriter and guitarist Paul Weller has served as a perfect example of the pop culture divide that yawns between America and Britain.<P>If you're American, and not an Anglophile, rock critic or cultural historian specializing in the punk movement of the 1970's, odds are that Mr. Weller's name is unfamiliar to you. If you're British, odds are that you consider him an icon. <BR> <BR>Between 1977 and 1982, as leader of a passionate and decidedly left-wing rock trio called the Jam, Mr. Weller captivated a generation of British youth with songs that set righteous fury and idealism to rough-hewn melodies and hopped-up beats. He and his bandmates, the bassist Bruce Foxton and the drummer Rick Buckler, became superstars in their homeland. Arguably, their distinctive blend of punk, power pop and 60's-style R & B has had a more lasting effect on the direction of music in Britain than the work of their contemporaries, the Sex Pistols and the Clash. <P>Two decades after the Jam's breakup, Mr. Weller ?? who will perform at the Hamerstein Ballroom in Manhattan on Feb. 21 ?? remains one of his country's favorite rock musicians. His latest album, "Illumination," entered the British charts at No. 1 last summer. (It has just been released in the United States, on the Yep Roc label.) Yet the vigor of the Jam continues to cast an imposing shadow over his more recent efforts. <P>Mr. Weller, now 44, has often projected the uncomfortable aura of an artist competing with his younger self and dissatisfied with the results. He would play the occasional Jam song in concert and discuss the band if asked but, given a choice, he preferred not to delve too deep into past history. <P>"Starting in the early 90's," he said by phone from London recently, "I wanted to make it again on my own terms, and not have to rely on old stuff." <P>His ambivalence toward his own legacy finally ended in 2001, when Mr. Weller embarked on a one-man tour of Europe and America. Without a backing band for the first time in his career, he leaned on older material and made a discovery. "Playing the old tunes back to back with the new ones broke some barriers for me," he said. "Stripping every song down to voice and guitar, I could see it was all one body of work."<P>His new CD suggests that reconnecting with his back catalog was also a boost to his creativity. Recorded in a series of three-day sessions, with Mr. Weller playing most of the instruments himself, "Illumination" is his most casual album. Whether enunciating his way through a thicket of acoustic guitars on "Leafy Mysteries," crooning the jazz-infused ballad "Who Brings Joy" or barking out lyrics with his trademark blue-eyed soul gusto on "Standing Out in the Universe," Mr. Weller sounds relaxed, confident and pleased to be in his own skin.<P>"It's much more enjoyable for me when the recording process is simple," he explained. "What I do is pretty basic, after all. You play a song, and at the end of it you know what you've got. You don't tart it up later."<P>Mr. Weller could never have been accused of "tarting it up" in his early work with the Jam, which included snarling anthems like "In the City" and "This Is the Modern World." In five years, the Jam recorded six albums and 18 singles, each topping the last in ferocity, sophistication and sales. Then, at the peak of its success, Mr. Weller dissolved the group, stating that he needed new musical challenges. His bandmates were stunned, and fans cried betrayal. "Some of them haven't forgiven me to this day," Mr. Weller said.<P>With the keyboardist Mick Talbot, Mr. Weller formed another band, the Style Council. Though still recognizably pop, it was more eclectic than the Jam, dabbling in jazz and lounge music. Its first efforts were well received, but over time, listeners found it increasingly hard to connect with Mr. Weller's preoccupations. The final Style Council album, "Modernism: A New Decade," from 1989, was rejected by its record label, Polydor, and the band slipped into oblivion.<P>Mr. Weller retreated from the music business for the next two years. When he re-emerged, it was as a solo artist. His sound had changed again; in place of the Style Council's slickness was a more organic mix of tough rock, pastoral folk and rootsy soul. Most notably, his voice, once strained and wayward in pitch, had matured into a warm, full-bodied instrument.<P>"When I listen back to the Jam and the Style Council, my singing sounds stilted," Mr. Weller said. "I was trying to attain something, but too much thought was going into it. On the first solo record, I dropped all that. I just opened my mouth and sang." <P>Mr. Weller's first three solo albums ?? "Paul Weller" (1992), "Wild Wood" (1994) and "Stanley Road" (1995) ?? brought him back into favor with critics and consumers (at least British consumers); subsequent releases have continued in the same vein. Some reviewers deride his current style as "Dadrock," music that shouldn't appeal to self-respecting teenagers. <P>All the same, his influence is stronger now than ever, and clearly audible in the songs of Oasis, Blur and other British pop acts. Still, the question lingers: Why has Mr. Weller yet to find fame in America? In the 80's, the answer seemed obvious. With both the Jam and the Style Council, Mr. Weller wrote songs steeped in British slang and British concerns: the class system, the fading of empire, the injustices of the Thatcher regime. But since 1992, his lyrics have become simpler, focusing on love, nature and the vicissitudes of human emotion. In theory, his new music has universal appeal; in reality, he continues to exist under the radar in this country.<P>"I don't know why, other than that it's difficult for any British band to break through in the States," he said. "But I don't lose sleep over it. A lot of the fans I have in America saw the Jam live when they were kids, over 20 years ago, and you can still see how much it mattered to them. Honestly, I'm just happy to be able to come and play for them."
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 02, 2003, 09:42:00 pm
Thanks for posting that GGW. I am really looking forward to this show.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: planettea on February 03, 2003, 02:16:00 pm
Right, thought I would put my 2 cents in about Mr. Weller. I saw him about 5+ years back in the UK. AMAZING. I think he was touring a bit after his Stanley Road CD. Which is still one of my all time favorites. My mates across the pond often refer to him as the grandfather of Indie. Truely one of the greats. While on stage he was playing his guitar when one of the strings broke. He kept playing and replaced the string while still playing all along. Simply great. I think its worth more than $35 to see him. It will put so much of the Indie scene into perspective.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 12:51:00 pm
According to the Paul Weller site, the shows in Denver and Minneapolis have been cancelled.  <P>According to the Superdrag site, the Paul Weller/Superdrag show in Detroit has also been cancelled.<P>Poor ticket sales apparently.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 01:03:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B>According to the Paul Weller site, the shows in Denver and Minneapolis have been cancelled.  <P>According to the Superdrag site, the Paul Weller/Superdrag show in Detroit has also been cancelled.<P>Poor ticket sales apparently.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>He better not cancel the DC night! I wonder how many tickets have been sold for 9.30?<P>By rights this concert should sell out in minutes, goddamn stupid Americans.<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 01:13:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> He better not cancel the DC night! I wonder how many tickets have been sold for 9.30?<P>By rights this concert should sell out in minutes, goddamn stupid Americans.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well the Detroit show was moved from the State Theatre to the Majestic and then cancelled by Clear Channel due to "soft ticket sales"<P>Denver was cancelled by House of Blues for the same reason.  Not sure about Minneapolis.<P>Hopefully the 9:30 is small enough (and its not run by CC or HOB) that ticket sales won't be an issue.  Plus there are probably a lot more British twats in DC than in Denver, Detroit and Minneapolis combined.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 01:16:00 pm
I was just looking at the site....<P>It does seem like a reasonable idea just to skip that boring bit in the middle of the country if sales are poor. I see a new date in Philadelphia at the end of the tour intead.......<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:09:00 pm
I don't know if it is still available, but a week or so ago I picked up the Super Deluxe Limited Pressing Collector's Bonus Special Edition of Illumination at Tower for $12.99.<P>It has Special Extra Bonus Unreleased tracks and comes with a DVD also.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 13, 2003, 02:22:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B>I don't know if it is still available, but a week or so ago I picked up the Super Deluxe Limited Pressing Collector's Bonus Special Edition of Illumination at Tower for $12.99.<P>It has Special Extra Bonus Unreleased tracks and comes with a DVD also.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>is it any good?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:28:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> is it any good?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think its quite good.  I also have Stanley Road and Days of Thunder and would say Illumination is as good or better.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 02:31:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B> I think its quite good.  I also have Stanley Road and Days of Thunder and would say Illumination is as good or better.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>is it really better than days of thunder?<P> (http://www.allstarz.org/tomcruise/thunder.jpg) <P>please bring back old infallible GGW
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:36:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> is it really better than days of thunder?<P>  (http://www.allstarz.org/tomcruise/thunder.jpg)  <P>please bring back old infallible GGW</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Days of Speed<P>Infallible GGW is dead!  Long Live the New GGW!
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 13, 2003, 02:38:00 pm
that is a pretty funny screw up
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:40:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>that is a pretty funny screw up</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I guess my life as a closet Tom Cruise and NASCAR fan has been exposed.<P>damnit.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 02:40:00 pm
(http://www.visimag.com/ultimatedvd/images/d04_cont_ck.jpg) <P>look even Tom and Nicole are looking back and laughing at you.<P>What the hell happened to you whilst you were away GGW?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 02:43:00 pm
Back to Days of <B>SPEED</B><P>I find it hard to get through and one dimesional in and of itself.....<P>I prefer the songs as they were originally recorded. Saying that I am sure it will come across really well live, either way.<P>He does have a band though on tour, right?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 13, 2003, 02:47:00 pm
<A HREF="http://paulweller.com/live/diary2002.shtml" TARGET=_blank>http://paulweller.com/live/diary2002.shtml[/url] <P>The FIRST SHOW of the US Tour was fantastic to say the least. TOP GIG! PAUL seemed really up for it! Some fantastic suprises in the setlist as well. The small theatre was all seated, but a number of us stood up the whole time... I don't understand the people who sit down in front. Get UP get UP!!!<P>Unfortunately, for me, I didn't get the chance to say hi to John as he passed by, or Paul (who I had just missed-as I was around the OTHER side of the theatre) but John Looks great, it looked as though the band were well rested and relaxed going into the performance. As ever, PAUL looked brilliant and healthy. <P>I was one of a few earlybirds that got into the soundcheck!!! PAUL did @ 10 warm-up tunes, one being Big Bird!!! Here's that setlist as I recall it: <P>SOUNDCHECK (Not in complete/proper order): <BR>Impromtu- warmup jam <BR>Big Bird <BR>Peacock Suit <BR>Can You Heal Us (Holyman) partial <BR>Suze's Room <BR>Broken Stones <BR>Changingman <BR>Picking Up Sticks <BR>Holyman - (again with proper sound adjustment on PAUL's vocal). <BR>Who Brings Joy <BR>Bagman <P>- Here's the setlist from the performance- <P>SAN DIEGO- Sprekles Theatre-06-02-03 SETLIST: <BR>Out Of The Sinking <BR>Porcelain Gods <BR>A Bullet For Everyone <BR>1 X 1 <BR>It's Written In The Stars <BR>Leafy Mysteries <BR>This Is No Time <BR>Up In Suze's Room <BR>Sunflower <BR>In The Crowd <BR>Broken Stones <BR>Long Hot Summer <BR>Bagman <BR>Who Brings Joy <BR>Tales From The Riverbank <BR>That's Entertainment <BR>All Good Books <BR>Can You Heal Us (Holyman) <BR>Foot Of The Mountain <BR>Into Tomorrow <BR>Changingman <BR>A Town Called Malice <BR>Standing Out In The Universe <P>Encore: <BR>Wildwood <BR>Woodcutter's Son <P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:49:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>What the hell happened to you whilst you were away GGW?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Too much time at high altitude and too much time at the blackjack tables.<P>Days of Thunder...I mean Speed...is a good introduction to Weller's solo music, I think.  Although I understand your complaint about it.<P>Yes, he is touring with a full band.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 02:53:00 pm
a full band and those songs.....<P>WOW<P>it really should be a great gig.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 02:54:00 pm
any luck at blackjack, BTW?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 13, 2003, 02:55:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>any luck at blackjack, BTW?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I was down after the first two nights but made it back on the third.<P>How did you do in Vegas?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 13, 2003, 03:05:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B> I was down after the first two nights but made it back on the third.<P>How did you do in Vegas?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>we lost at the start, broke even in the middle and won in the end.<P>Keano was a revelation and a monitary salvation. We picked 20 numbers.....  <P>none came up<P>$500 for a $5 stake.<P>In the end I guess we were up on gambling by a modest amount.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 17, 2003, 03:24:00 pm
i hope everyone enjoys mr. weller on weds... as it stands right now kosmette and i are stuck in portland scheduled to fly back thursday  (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)  (fingers crossed standby will be available before then)<P>i'd offer up the tickets, but they are snowed in greenbelt and not the boxoffice.  i'm so sad
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 17, 2003, 06:47:00 pm
oh no kosmo........<P>you have to get back...........that is so unfair to miss mr weller...............<P>cant you sled back or something?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 19, 2003, 10:46:00 am
so who is coming tonight? i get to come from work, backpack and files in hand. *joy*<P>not enough time to go home first, offload, and head  back in time. well, i could, but i'd miss both openers.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: An Arky on February 19, 2003, 10:46:00 am
Hey. I hope the show's still on. It seems to be. I have a general gripe that makes me look like an old fart, but so be it...<P>What's up with 9:30 adding two acts at the last minute to the bill for weekday shows? Nobody but students can stay out that late on weeknights, and I don't think there will be that many of them there tonight. Old fogie fans of PW like me have to work the next day, hire a babysitter (who has to go to school tomorrow, I think), etc.<P>Anyway, I don't see how catering exclusively to vampires helps the bottom line.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 19, 2003, 10:48:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by An Arky:<BR><B>Hey. I hope the show's still on. It seems to be. I have a general gripe that makes me look like an old fart, but so be it...<P>What's up with 9:30 adding two acts at the last minute to the bill for weekday shows? Nobody but students can stay out that late on weeknights, and I don't think there will be that many of them there tonight. Old fogie fans of PW like me have to work the next day, hire a babysitter (who has to go to school tomorrow, I think), etc.<P>Anyway, I don't see how catering exclusively to vampires helps the bottom line.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't think the club adds bands to the bill.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: An Arky on February 19, 2003, 10:57:00 am
Yeah, I thought of that. I'm not exactly placing the blame on the club, just whoever. Still, what is advertised is just PW for weeks, then two days before the show, it is revealed that there are two opening acts.<P>Anyway, I've been to plenty of shows midweek that, IMHO, would've made the club more money from alcohol if the showtime was earlier, because people with jobs don't usually continue to drink after midnight on a weekday, but would do so if the show only lasted till, say, 11.<P>Actually, 9:30 HAS made some effort in that area, which I applaud.<P><BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 19, 2003, 11:08:00 am
actually, has anyone heard of the two openers? unknown to me.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 19, 2003, 11:16:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>actually, has anyone heard of the two openers? unknown to me. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <A HREF="http://www.b-uniquerecords.com/sebastian.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.b-uniquerecords.com/sebastian.htm[/url]  <A HREF="http://www.fictionplane.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.fictionplane.com/[/url]
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 19, 2003, 11:24:00 am
wooooooooooo<P>i'm all excited about this.........i've wanted to see paul weller for soooo long........<P>hey jadetree you gonna buy me a beer tonight.............? i do believe it's your round...........
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 19, 2003, 11:25:00 am
feckin hell, fiction plane is front by sting's son? now this should be interesting.<P>thanks jadetree for the links.  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 19, 2003, 11:28:00 am
I have an extra ticket.  Does anyone want to avoid the service charges?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 19, 2003, 11:33:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poorlulu:<BR><B>wooooooooooo<P>i'm all excited about this.........i've wanted to see paul weller for soooo long........<P>hey jadetree you gonna buy me a beer tonight.............? i do believe it's your round...........</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My round eh?  Doubtful.  Maybe 1 beer, you guys can share.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 19, 2003, 11:34:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>feckin hell, fiction plane is front by sting's son? </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So we can annoy the crap out of him by yelling Police requests?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 19, 2003, 11:37:00 am
i suspect that markie is writing out a full script to do just that.  (http://www.930.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 19, 2003, 11:49:00 am
thanks to a mad dash between gates in kansas city... kosmette and i got home via standby yesterday, so we will be at the show tonight woohoo!!!!!!<P>see all the cool peeps there
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 19, 2003, 11:57:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>i suspect that markie is writing out a full script to do just that.   (http://www.930.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>sorry but I am not feeling at tall well (http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/haas/images/well-sm.jpg) <P>there will be no heckling from me tonight.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 19, 2003, 11:58:00 am
hey kosmo, I am glad you got home.....<P>I am really looking forward to tonight.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: sbear72 on February 19, 2003, 03:15:00 pm
I have two extra tickets to the show tonight.  I live in Chevy Chase, and will sell for best offer quick!
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 19, 2003, 03:41:00 pm
anyone notice that they just changed the set times? it was 8, 8.30 and 9.30.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 19, 2003, 03:47:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>anyone notice that they just changed the set times? it was 8, 8.30 and 9.30.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Throwin' a bone to the old fogies?<P>That does give Weller a good two hours though. Perfect for a set like this:<P>SAN DIEGO- Sprekles Theatre-06-02-03 SETLIST: <BR>Out Of The Sinking <BR>Porcelain Gods <BR>A Bullet For Everyone <BR>1 X 1 <BR>It's Written In The Stars <BR>Leafy Mysteries <BR>This Is No Time <BR>Up In Suze's Room <BR>Sunflower <BR>In The Crowd <BR>Broken Stones <BR>Long Hot Summer <BR>Bagman <BR>Who Brings Joy <BR>Tales From The Riverbank <BR>That's Entertainment <BR>All Good Books <BR>Can You Heal Us (Holyman) <BR>Foot Of The Mountain <BR>Into Tomorrow <BR>Changingman <BR>A Town Called Malice <BR>Standing Out In The Universe <P>Encore: <BR>Wildwood <BR>Woodcutter's Son
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 12:54:00 am
that was feckin amazing..........so much better live than i thought he was gonna be........and it was great hanging out with so many loons .......i mean fellow posters............shame markie wasn't on heckling form though..........thanks for the lift ggw.........
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 01:05:00 am
It was a great show, but seeing how Stanley Road is the only album I have heard, I wish he would have played Woodcutter's Son.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:21:00 am
poorlulu, no mention of how sebastian roger, the first opener was feckin hot? and sting's son is damn fine too. he has some similiar body movements and his voice at times does echo his father. i'd be willing to listen to both performers again. <P>weller was great. i wish the guy next to me would have properly decked the drunk w.anker that worked his way up to the front. <P>it was nice to be at a show where no one talked thru the whole thing. first time in a damn long time that has happened.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:27:00 am
that bloke was totally hot..........even if unfortunately he was english.........ah well he had squiffy hair so i will let him off......not to sure about stings son though......maybe he will be like his dad and age well.............<P>meant to say thanks for the cd fico i will give it a listen at work tommorrow and tell you what i think..........the guy on the cover of that cd looked hot too........
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:29:00 am
yeah, that english thing. bummer. both of them too. double bummer.  (http://www.930.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)<P>but he was incredibly similiar to john mayer. a much hotter version of john mayer. MUCH hotter. <P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poorlulu:<BR><B>that bloke was totally hot..........even if unfortunately he was english.........ah well he had squiffy hair so i will let him off......</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 01:31:00 am
I thought Fiction Plane was awful.  And I thought Sebastian Rogers said it best with his song, Nothing Original.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:31:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B><BR>but he was incredibly similiar to john mayer. a much hotter version of john mayer. MUCH hotter. <P><BR> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>but it doesn't get any hotter than john mayer.........his body is a wonderland...........ick...........that's a wonderland i don't want to visit............<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:35:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>I thought Fiction Plane was awful.  And I thought Sebastian Rogers said it best with his song, Nothing Original.  </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>ooooooohhhhh hark at you............so bitter for one so young..........<P>fiction plane were actually alright.......much better than most support bands........the first guy was perfect eye candy..........he was like the singer rosey (remember her) but for girls.........
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:39:00 am
i think they are worth another listen. i've dealt with worse openers. like waxwings for the frames last fall. *waits for onslaught of waxwings fans telling me i'm smoking crack*<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>I thought Fiction Plane was awful.  And I thought Sebastian Rogers said it best with his song, Nothing Original.  </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 01:44:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poorlulu:<BR><B> ooooooohhhhh hark at you............so bitter for one so young..........<P>fiction plane were actually alright.......much better than most support bands........the first guy was perfect eye candy..........he was like the singer rosey (remember her) but for girls.........</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You only liked them because they were British, they must have listened to a lot of Bush for inspiration.  Although the first song was much better than the rest.<P>I never saw Rosey.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:47:00 am
noooooooo<P>generally i hate them if they are british..........they did bear a little too close a resemblance to bush, and as markie noted a little bit like rush too.............<BR>not the best role models.............still they were actually ok............
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:49:00 am
tegan and sara, who opened for ryan adams this fall were far worse than rosey who opened for, damn, who did she open for? i was there and i can't even remember. tegan and sara were like the musical version of the snl skit with the 2 female radio personalities. i kid you not. <P>  <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> <BR>I never saw Rosey.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><p>[This message has been edited by lily1 (edited 02-20-2003).]
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 01:51:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>tegan and sara, who opened for ryan adams this fall were far worse than rosey who opened for, damn, who did she open for? i was there and i can't even remember. <P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Morcheeba
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 01:53:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poorlulu:<BR><B>noooooooo<P>generally i hate them if they are british..........they did bear a little too close a resemblance to bush, and as markie noted a little bit like rush too.............<BR>not the best role models.............still they were actually ok............</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>There is nothing wrong with Rush, and I didn't hear that at all.<BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:53:00 am
thanks, once again, jadetree, for your keen memory. <P>that's embarrassing, actually, that i couldn't recall that. the show was only a few weeks ago! <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> Morcheeba</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:53:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B> tegan and sara were like the musical version of the snl skit with the 2 female radio personalities. i kid you not.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>damn i wish i'd seen that............that sounds fantastic
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:55:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> <BR>There is nothing wrong with Rush, </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>hahahahahah!!!!! <P>good one jadetree
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 01:55:00 am
i like rush too, and i didn't see that influence. i did hear some significant similarity to every other young male band that has erupted in the last couple of years. they have potential if they can break fully from the mold. it seems like they are trying but i don't know if it will completely happen.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> <BR>There is nothing wrong with Rush, and I didn't hear that at all.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 01:58:00 am
oh dear............you weren't kidding.....<P>well on that note i'll leave you rush loving night owls to it.....<BR>g'night
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 20, 2003, 10:31:00 am
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>i think they are worth another listen. i've dealt with worse openers. like waxwings for the frames last fall. *waits for onslaught of waxwings fans telling me i'm smoking crack*<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>them fighting words...  but then again the waxwings rock my pathetic existence and i was so pysched to see them live again.<P>friction plane is clearly a band in search of a sound... the guitar channeling the edge for a 80's anthem, that sumner lah channeling sting and dave matthews and the whole bush tribute.   nonetheless there  are a talented bunch, but destined for obscurity i predict.<P>weller was fantastic... loads better than the previous lukewarm shows i've seen.  a great selection of tunes from the jam, style council and each of his solo records.  <P>weller was clearly having fun playing live with his crack band supporting.   his drummer makes it look so darn easy, but i know it ain't.  weller's voice has gotten better with age, although it's a bit gruff for some of the high notes on the jam stuff.  <P>poorlulu you gonna post the setlist?
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Fico on February 20, 2003, 12:12:00 pm
What a great show.. Paul is THE Geezer by excellence in my book.. it still blows my mind to see him rocking out for two hours with his age.. I'm probably less than half his age and i get spent playing one hour gigs.. I tip my hat to him and his outstanding backing band with Steve White keeping it all locked in place..<P>The other guitarist was Steve Cradock from Ocean Colour Scene?? I read someplace he'd be the touring guitarist but I'm not able to pick him out of a crowd.. great show, I'm happy it filled up nicely... good to see you chatboard pariahs making it to the show..<P>ps: seems not having snowflakes on yer scarf eliminates the "emo" factor... talk about double standards  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2003, 12:25:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> <BR>There is nothing wrong with Rush, and I didn't hear that at all.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Rush rock.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: ggw on February 20, 2003, 12:53:00 pm
I agree with the other attendees -- The Modfather was truly excellent -- much better than I was expecting.<P>Fiction Plane was utterly forgettable.  I don't know what sound they were going for.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: fred perry on February 20, 2003, 04:44:00 pm
Hi everybody, <P>I'm new to this forum but I've been a Wellerite for years and it was great to see him last night.  Anyway, if you want the setlist, you'll find that Steve White (the drummer) has his own website (www.whiteydrums.com) and if you click on 'tour', then the concert, he'll provide the setlist (even last night's), whiny commentary about DC, and statements about how unfunny Conan O'Brien is (I think Paul is scheduled to be on his show tonight).  Anyway, enjoy.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: jadetree on February 20, 2003, 04:52:00 pm
Well he was a great drummer, but jesus he is a bit whiney.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: fred perry on February 20, 2003, 05:22:00 pm
Ok, here's the setlist, at least according to Steve White:  <P><BR>1) Going Places (Illumination)<BR>2) One X One (Illumination)<BR>3) Out of the Sinking (Stanley Road)<BR>4) Porcelain Gods (Stanley Road)<BR>5) Hung Up (Wild Wood)<BR>6) Suze??s Room (Heavy Soul)<BR>7) Wild Wood (Wild Wood)<BR>8) This is No Time (Live Wood, More Wood)<BR>9) In the Crowd (All Mod Cons)<BR>10) What??s Going On (Marvin Gaye tune)<BR>11) Broken Stones (Stanley Road)<BR>12) Long Hot Summer (Introducing TSC)<BR>13) Picking Up Sticks (Heliocentric)<BR>14) Bag Man (Illumination)<BR>15) That??s Entertainment (Sound Affects)<BR>16) You Do Something to Me (Stanley Road)<BR>17) Can You Heal Us (Holy Man) (Wild Wood)<BR>18) Into Tomorrow (Weller)<BR>19) Foot of the Mountain (Wild Wood)<BR>20) Changing Man (Stanley Road)<BR>21) Town Called Malice (The Gift)<P>Encores:<BR>22) Bullet for Everyone (Illumination)<BR>23) Whirlpool??s End (Stanley Road)<P>Jadetree, I agree that Steve White is a bit whiny.  He was always like that; he drummed for Paul with the Style Council, and I read some interviews with him back then and he was the same way.  So was Paul, but now Paul is quite diplomatic, whatever he may think about the States.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: Fico on February 20, 2003, 05:26:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fred perry:<BR><B>Ok, here's the setlist, at least according to Steve White:  <P><BR>1) Going Places (Illumination)<BR>2) One X One (Illumination)<BR>3) Out of the Sinking (Stanley Road)<BR>4) Porcelain Gods (Stanley Road)<BR>5) Hung Up (Wild Wood)<BR>6) Suze??s Room (Heavy Soul)<BR>7) Wild Wood (Wild Wood)<BR>8) This is No Time (Live Wood, More Wood)<BR>9) In the Crowd (All Mod Cons)<BR>10) What??s Going On (Marvin Gaye tune)<BR>11) Broken Stones (Stanley Road)<BR>12) Long Hot Summer (Introducing TSC)<BR>13) Picking Up Sticks (Heliocentric)<BR>14) Bag Man (Illumination)<BR>15) That??s Entertainment (Sound Affects)<BR>16) You Do Something to Me (Stanley Road)<BR>17) Can You Heal Us (Holy Man) (Wild Wood)<BR>18) Into Tomorrow (Weller)<BR>19) Foot of the Mountain (Wild Wood)<BR>20) Changing Man (Stanley Road)<BR>21) Town Called Malice (The Gift)<P>Encores:<BR>22) Bullet for Everyone (Illumination)<BR>23) Whirlpool??s End (Stanley Road)<P>Jadetree, I agree that Steve White is a bit whiny.  He was always like that; he drummed for Paul with the Style Council, and I read some interviews with him back then and he was the same way.  So was Paul, but now Paul is quite diplomatic, whatever he may think about the States. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't think the setlist is accurate, they did about 4 songs in the encore which surprised me but may explain why they didn't do a second encore which I reckon would've been Sunflower... God Steve is whiney... I'm surprised of the opinion he took of DC, doesn't seem he's spent enough time to make that opinion... on the contrary I met Johnny Marr waltzing about in M Street and he said Washington was quite alright..meaning he liked it..<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: fred perry on February 20, 2003, 05:36:00 pm
fico, you think they did four tunes for the encore?  I only remember two.  But then it was a late night for me....<P>Forgot to add: the song that was played after the lights went up was Al Wilson's 'The Snake'.  Weller raved about it once on his website as a great Northern Soul tune.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: arcane on February 20, 2003, 06:47:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B>Fiction Plane was utterly forgettable.  I don't know what sound they were going for.  </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My feeling was that they really really wanted to be Bush.<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: arcane on February 20, 2003, 06:52:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fred perry:<BR><B>fico, you think they did four tunes for the encore?  I only remember two.  But then it was a late night for me....</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I only remember two songs in the encore as well, and I was right up at the front of the stage (pretty much directly in front of Paul) where you'd think I would have noticed.<P>That setlist looks pretty accurate to me.  I was surprised he didn't play either of the singles ("It's Written in the Stars" and "Leafy Mysteries") off of the new album.  An incredible show regardless, though.<P>One thing I would like to note, though, is that people that sing along with the songs at the top of their lungs really piss me off.  Especially when they themselves can't carry a tune.  Like, I'm glad you're really getting into the show, but I came to hear the artist on stage, not you.  I'm totally congratulating myself for my restraint in not turning around and hitting the guy behind me repeatedly.<BR><p>[This message has been edited by arcane (edited 02-20-2003).]
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 07:52:00 pm
okay, just what is an emo scarf?  (http://www.930.com/ubb/confused.gif)<BR>i've seen it tossed around here before, and perhaps i'm still a touch too new with too few posts to have hit that chapter in the 930 bb textbook.<P>poorlulu, damn label that sebastian rogers is on was down all day so i couldn't download pictures of his hottie self.  (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B>ps: seems not having snowflakes on yer scarf eliminates the "emo" factor... talk about double standards   (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: lily1 on February 20, 2003, 08:06:00 pm
what about the drunk bastard that tried to work his way to the front? i wanted to throw him over the barrier. obnoxious shit that he was. <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcane:<BR><B>  One thing I would like to note, though, is that people that sing along with the songs at the top of their lungs really piss me off.  Especially when they themselves can't carry a tune.  Like, I'm glad you're really getting into the show, but I came to hear the artist on stage, not you.  I'm totally congratulating myself for my restraint in not turning around and hitting the guy behind me repeatedly.<P><BR>[This message has been edited by arcane (edited 02-20-2003).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: arcane on February 20, 2003, 08:39:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lily1:<BR><B>what about the drunk bastard that tried to work his way to the front? i wanted to throw him over the barrier. obnoxious shit that he was. <BR> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hm, I think I may have seen the guy you're talking about (was this way down at the right-hand side of the stage?), but fortunately I was far enough over to not actually have to deal with him.  Which is a good thing, because I really have no tolerance for people like that.<BR>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: poorlulu on February 20, 2003, 09:37:00 pm
no the drunk guy was front and center.......and he was from landin mate innit........from the same town as paul.......god he was annoying i mean i'm up for getting drunk.........(as you all know) but why do it at a show that you really want to see and remember?  i doubt that bloke even remembers he was out last night.............<P>as for singing loudly and badly........that was probably markie............he is awful for that.......
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 20, 2003, 10:15:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poorlulu:<BR><B><BR>as for singing loudly and badly........that was probably markie............he is awful for that.......</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>too right I hope I was the loudest person singing,<P>"<BR>Two lovers kissing amongst the scream of midnight -<BR>Two lovers missing the tranquility of solitude."<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: arcane on February 20, 2003, 10:36:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> too right I hope I was the loudest person singing,</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, I don't know if it was you or not (seeing as I don't know you).  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)  <P>But, um, don't you think that's awfully rude to everyone else around you?  I sing along at shows too, and was singing along to practically every song last night, but I do it quietly enough that even someone standing right up against me wouldn't be able to hear it.  More of a mouthing the words and mentally singing along than actually singing.  Seems only right, seeing as I'm not the one on stage.<P>
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: markie on February 20, 2003, 10:49:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcane:<BR><B>  um, don't you think that's awfully rude to everyone else around you?  <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>hey its much better than:<P>1, talking all the way through a show<BR>2, pissing about with a mobile phone throughout the show.<BR>3, having a big smelly hippy follow you around at a show<BR>4, have a crowd at a show that is totally unresponsive to the effort the artist is putting into a performance.<P><BR>So in all I would say if that was your biggest problem with a show, you did alright.<P>The worst show for singign along I ever saw was The the about 8 years ago in Cambridge UK. the whole crowd sang along to every song. You could barely hear the band at all.<P>I can smile about it now, but at the time it was terrible.
Title: Re: Paul Weller
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2003, 09:15:00 am
i was talking to a buddy in detroit and found out some of weller's dates were cancelled due to low ticket sales.<P>in detroit they actualled kept moving the show to smaller venues.  the last being a club the size (if not smaller) than the old black cat.  guess people don't appreciate good music anymore.