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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: chaz on June 03, 2008, 11:46:00 pm
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Obama clinched it. Not a big surprise at this point..but 10 5 or even 1 year ago who woulda thunk it? We gotta brother running on the ticket of one of the major parties.
If he wins nothing will make me happier than thought of all those fat cat rich white rednecks panicking at the thought of the white house painted black.
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He'll probably bow to the Clinton machine and give her the VP to appease the rednecks. We shall see.
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I have to recognize that I wanted to see a sweet playlist in iTunes. Though, Obama is also a good development.
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Obama is about as much a "brother" as Tiger Woods is. Probably even less.
Originally posted by chaz:
Obama clinched it. Not a big surprise at this point..but 10 5 or even 1 year ago who woulda thunk it? We gotta brother running on the ticket of one of the major parties.
If he wins nothing will make me happier than thought of all those fat cat rich white rednecks panicking at the thought of the white house painted black.
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i figured 'not black enough' would go away after the primaries
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Man, where I grew up, you were sneered at for even having a dark tan. I'm sure some of those good ol' boys are probably all bent up about it.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Obama is about as much a "brother" as Tiger Woods is. Probably even less.
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I'm glad he's a mix of black and white. Though he's mostly white, given that he was raised by his single white mom.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i figured 'not black enough' would go away after the primaries
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm glad he's a mix of black and white. Though he's mostly white, given that he was raised by his single white mom.
Yeah, and I bet he got treated as a white guy wherever he went :roll:
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i think more than just "rednecks" will be scared of him "painting the white house black" in the voting booth.
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i certainly hope that there are better ways for Obama to reach out to the middle class, etc than having to resort to Hilary as a VP. she is such a cow and starting to act like a spoiled child..
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He should hand out free coupons to Applebees and Costco.
Originally posted by kosmo:
i certainly hope that there are better ways for Obama to reach out to the middle class, etc than having to resort to Hilary as a VP.
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mmmmmm...costco
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President McCain here come.
way to go Hope-Changers....way to go....
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Anyone just see him sucking up to AIPAC?
That was quick. I wonder how many more lobbyists he'll blow before november.
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Yep...I'm afraid you're right Sonic.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
President McCain here come.
way to go Hope-Changers....way to go....
I'll take that bet. Name your price.
If the Do you Read? thread hadn't been purged you would have seen smackie say this was more than possible back in November of 06. I'm not going to waiver now.
More concerning to me today is that Morgan Tsvangirai was arrested.
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ah presidential race season...how many internet bets will be made and never paid during this time...
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sonick - so you think hillary would have a better shot against mccain?
manamitired: dunno about others, but smackie pays his bets. you can count on that.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
sonick - so you think hillary would have a better shot against mccain?
I definitely do. Hillary is not quite so over the top. She's lived the White house for 8 years, been on the Senate for a while and knows how to get things done in Washington.
Obama just thinks he's gonna go to the White house and "change how things are done in Washington". Yeah, right and the 500 old fat white dudes who've been there since Obama was in grade school are going to roll over and let him?
doubtful.
And besides that, we ALL know that a woman stands a better chance than a black man in this country...especially when her hubby is a former Pres himself.
and all that is before we talk about the fact that Obama has no forgien policy or realistic goals on the economy or Iraq.
he's like the Gnarls Barkley of Presidential campaigns. we're all about him now but by 2010 we'll be scraping his bumper stickers off of our cars we're paying $7 a gallon to drive around in.
<end rant>
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I have to admit that I'm with Sonic on this one. Hillary made mistakes on the campaign. A lot of them. And there was surely an arrogance factor with Bill. But the thing that I respect about Hillary is that she had a more defined view of what she would do if she took office, and the arrogance there was the assumption that she would be able to get it.
Obama is going to be like the dog that caught the car, assuming he can get there. He's smart, he speaks well, but he's also advocating change (which we do need). But I still don't think that he is giving us the well-defined agenda yet. I hope that changes. Hillary's evils were known...and I would have been more content with those than Obama's unknowns, of which I am afraid there are many. And the way the political climate is, there are a LOT of Republicans that cannot stand McCain, and I think Hillary would have been a less bitter pill to swallow. Even though a lot of folks hate her, I think Obama will have a tougher shot. Of course it's only June and a lot can happen in the next four months.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Hillary is not quite so over the top.
<img src="http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/images/Hillary%20Clinton.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Hillary is not quite so over the top?
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<img src="http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/hillary-clinton1.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://thehive.modbee.com/files/images/Hillary%20Clinton.bmp" alt=" - " />
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<img src="http://politicaldemotivation.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/obamamania.jpg" alt=" - " />
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I suppose the enthusiasm that JFK and Bobby Kennedy generated was really, really creepy as well?
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<img src="http://wonkette.com/assets/resources/2008/02/yeswecanz-thumb.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I suppose the enthusiasm that JFK and Bobby Kennedy generated was really, really creepy as well?
i'm not going to arague American History with an american, lol. but pls dont compare Obama to JFK , for the sake of my fathers side of the family from New England ;)
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hes not comparing jfk to obama, hes comparing the reaction of the people
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
<img src="http://wonkette.com/assets/resources/2008/02/yeswecanz-thumb.jpg" alt=" - " />
LOLZ
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Has McCain given us a well defined agenda yet?
I thought Obama's agenda seemed fairly well defined, at least in that link that someone (Vansmack I think) posted awhile ago.
Originally posted by bearman:
I have to admit that I'm with Sonic on this one. Hillary made mistakes on the campaign. A lot of them. And there was surely an arrogance factor with Bill. But the thing that I respect about Hillary is that she had a more defined view of what she would do if she took office, and the arrogance there was the assumption that she would be able to get it.
Obama is going to be like the dog that caught the car, assuming he can get there. He's smart, he speaks well, but he's also advocating change (which we do need). But I still don't think that he is giving us the well-defined agenda yet. I hope that changes. Hillary's evils were known...and I would have been more content with those than Obama's unknowns, of which I am afraid there are many. And the way the political climate is, there are a LOT of Republicans that cannot stand McCain, and I think Hillary would have been a less bitter pill to swallow. Even though a lot of folks hate her, I think Obama will have a tougher shot. Of course it's only June and a lot can happen in the next four months.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Has McCain given us a well defined agenda yet?
I thought Obama's agenda seemed fairly well defined, at least in that link that someone (Vansmack I think) posted awhile ago.
Originally posted by bearman:
I have to admit that I'm with Sonic on this one. Hillary made mistakes on the campaign. A lot of them. And there was surely an arrogance factor with Bill. But the thing that I respect about Hillary is that she had a more defined view of what she would do if she took office, and the arrogance there was the assumption that she would be able to get it.
Obama is going to be like the dog that caught the car, assuming he can get there. He's smart, he speaks well, but he's also advocating change (which we do need). But I still don't think that he is giving us the well-defined agenda yet. I hope that changes. Hillary's evils were known...and I would have been more content with those than Obama's unknowns, of which I am afraid there are many. And the way the political climate is, there are a LOT of Republicans that cannot stand McCain, and I think Hillary would have been a less bitter pill to swallow. Even though a lot of folks hate her, I think Obama will have a tougher shot. Of course it's only June and a lot can happen in the next four months.
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do you think people are going to care that he attended a racist church for 20 years when it comes time to vote?
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Why would they? People didn't seem to care that Bush is a born again Jesus freak.
Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Has McCain given us a well defined agenda yet?
I thought Obama's agenda seemed fairly well defined, at least in that link that someone (Vansmack I think) posted awhile ago.
Originally posted by bearman:
I have to admit that I'm with Sonic on this one. Hillary made mistakes on the campaign. A lot of them. And there was surely an arrogance factor with Bill. But the thing that I respect about Hillary is that she had a more defined view of what she would do if she took office, and the arrogance there was the assumption that she would be able to get it.
Obama is going to be like the dog that caught the car, assuming he can get there. He's smart, he speaks well, but he's also advocating change (which we do need). But I still don't think that he is giving us the well-defined agenda yet. I hope that changes. Hillary's evils were known...and I would have been more content with those than Obama's unknowns, of which I am afraid there are many. And the way the political climate is, there are a LOT of Republicans that cannot stand McCain, and I think Hillary would have been a less bitter pill to swallow. Even though a lot of folks hate her, I think Obama will have a tougher shot. Of course it's only June and a lot can happen in the next four months.
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do you think people are going to care that he attended a racist church for 20 years when it comes time to vote? [/b]
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bush is also white and didnt go to a racist (anti-white)church for 20 years. the majority of the country is white...but your (un) witty reply was nice.
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will they care that mccain uses the word 'gook'
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probably not actually.
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here's an underreported story: for the whole campaign people have been talking about obama's supporters as crazed cult followers ... has anyone been seeing interviews with hillary supporters lately? they're insane!!
my (recent) favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s)
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
here's an underreported story: for the whole campaign people have been talking about obama's supporters as crazed cult followers ... has anyone been seeing interviews with hillary supporters lately? they're insane!!
this is not shocking.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
will they care that mccain uses the word 'gook'
he also called his wife a cunt. im sure people will gloss over that one.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
here's an underreported story: for the whole campaign people have been talking about obama's supporters as crazed cult followers ... has anyone been seeing interviews with hillary supporters lately? they're insane!!
my (recent) favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s)
Loves it.
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Big flippin deal. My wife calls me worse than that every time she gets pissed at me.
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
will they care that mccain uses the word 'gook'
he also called his wife a cunt. im sure people will gloss over that one. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Big flippin deal. My wife calls me worse than that every time she gets pissed at me.
so you're saying mccain is just as electable your wife?
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Apparently, it's young professional black men that singlehandedly gave Obama the nomination.
"That could well override the political advantages that some other supporters have been promoting, notably her fellow New York Democrats in Congress: That Sen. Clinton could help Sen. Obama win the support of women, blue-collar workers, seniors and white men -- all groups that the Illinois senator had trouble with during their nomination race."
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
here's an underreported story: for the whole campaign people have been talking about obama's supporters as crazed cult followers ... has anyone been seeing interviews with hillary supporters lately? they're insane!!
my (recent) favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s)
Loves it. [/b]
an update:
http://wonkette.com/400148/insane-harriet-christian-has-more-thoughts-about-the-blacks (http://wonkette.com/400148/insane-harriet-christian-has-more-thoughts-about-the-blacks)
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Originally posted by manimtired:
do you think people are going to care that he attended a racist church for 20 years when it comes time to vote?
If Missouri, home of Branson, is any indication, apparently not (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/5/1933/91593/315/530569).
Obama rises in Missouri
by kos
Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:17:08 PM EDT
Rasmussen. 6/3. Likely voters. MoE 4% (5/6 results)
McCain (R) 42 (47)
Obama (D) 43 (41)
That's a seven-point swing as people decide that perhaps McCain deserves more scrutiny. And this number is 16-points better than Obama's nadir in March in the midst of the Wright freak-out. In a 3/24 poll, McCain led Obama 53-38.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
If Missouri, home of Branson, is any indication, apparently not (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/5/1933/91593/315/530569).
Obama rises in Missouri
by kos
Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:17:08 PM EDT
Rasmussen. 6/3. Likely voters. MoE 4% (5/6 results)
McCain (R) 42 (47)
Obama (D) 43 (41)
That's a seven-point swing as people decide that perhaps McCain deserves more scrutiny. And this number is 16-points better than Obama's nadir in March in the midst of the Wright freak-out. In a 3/24 poll, McCain led Obama 53-38.
Thats the second poll in a week or so that has them even in my birth state (previous being Survey USA). St. Louis and KC better have huge turnout for Obama to pull it out.
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My Man McCain.
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Originally posted by aglanixp:
My Man McCain.
<img src="http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/aglanixp/unelect08.jpg" alt=" - " />
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